The Hidden Threat of Communism in America

[elektra]

The sentence said "it" was in something called "appropriate". Just looking for clarification.

Structure your sentence properly then I will clarify

 

[elektra]

You haven't seen the diary.

This girl has been in and out of rehab for years. Her "diary" was written recently. Unless you are a mental health professional, have interviewed his daughter and read the diary you're just being a slanderous shithead.

The democrat president raised a daughter that has a drug problem. Thank you for adding the damage done by the Democrat President mentally and physically hurting his 11 year old daughter .

 

[dblack]

I have a feeling this is leading back to wokeness, abortion, gay marriage, and grooming children in the public schools

But if you have something else in mind lets hear it

It's more general than that. It's the premise that it's the job of government is to "run" society. Some of them even see society and the state as one in the same. Statists see nothing, or very little, as off-limits to government.

 

[Senter]

It's more general than that. It's the premise that it's the job of government is to "run" society. Some of them even see society and the state as one in the same. Statists see nothing, or very little, as off-limits to government.

It seems to me that we ALL need to get back to basics in order to understand where we're going and why. And to me, that mean developing consensus regarding the role of the state/government. "Why do we have government?" "What is the highest-level notion of the role(s) of government?"

Once we get that established, the job of determining how to get there should be much easier.

 

[Stann]

YES, they do.
Communist love their dear leader, who loves communist.

September 4 2022
Donald Trump has praised the Chinese authoritarian leader Xi Jinping for running China with an "iron fist" in a bizarre campaign rally speech.

Speaking to thousands of supporters to promote two Republican candidates in Wilkes-Barre, northeastern Pennsylvania, former US President Trump said unlike current President Joe Biden, other foreign leaders are at "the top of the game."

In other words trump is advocating tyranny and rule of a dictator.

 

[Stann]

It's more general than that. It's the premise that it's the job of government is to "run" society. Some of them even see society and the state as one in the same. Statists see nothing, or very little, as off-limits to government.

I'd say getting rid of Roe versus Wade ( a reasonable compromise on the abortion issue ) as something what you are now calling a " Statist " as an egregious overreach of government as you can get. So trump must be that too. ( besides being a psychopath ).

 

[dblack]

It seems to me that we ALL need to get back to basics in order to understand where we're going and why. And to me, that mean developing consensus regarding the role of the state/government. "Why do we have government?" "What is the highest-level notion of the role(s) of government?"

Once we get that established, the job of determining how to get there should be much easier.

Absolutely agree. We need to talk about first principles, about the reasons we have government in the first place. But that doesn't make for sexy headlines on Fox News or MSNBC.

 

[dblack]

I'd say getting rid of Roe versus Wade ( a reasonable compromise on the abortion issue ) as something what you are now calling a " Statist " as an egregious overreach of government as you can get. So trump must be that too. ( besides being a psychopath ).

Not sure what you're getting at. Yeah, Trumpsters are statists. It's the prevailing political momentum of both parties. They're all in on using government to win the "culture war".

 

[miketx]

In other words trump is advocating tyranny and rule of a dictator.

Goebbels again.

 

[Senter]

Absolutely agree. We need to talk about first principles, about the reasons we have government in the first place. But that doesn't make for sexy headlines on Fox News or MSNBC.

Ok. Good. In it's most basic sense (upon which we can build) government is for the purpose of keeping the nation running smoothly, and that entails continuing improvements for the people, protection of the people and their vital interests, and enforcing policy for the people (FBI, CIA, police, National Guard, military, oversight agencies, etc.).

And since it is by economic means that everything gets done (markets, jobs, lifestyle maintenance, technology, programs like education, space exploration, and every kind of buying and selling), the economy is that which determines everything else. An economy that runs smoothly and produces good results, is an economy that serves society. So it is valid to say that the economic system is the foundation of everything, and all else springs from and rises to serve the economy. So actually government reflects and serves the economy by keeping it running smoothly and doing its job for society. And while government also does and serves all the functions listed above (and more), the most essential and most important job of government is the management and maintenance of the economy. ... Or it should be.

So in reality, the foundation of society is the economy and all else rises from it and operates in service to it. (This is not a description of what the US economy or government is, today. Rather, it is a description of the "textbook ideal" of what government, in general, was originally in every age intended to be.)

And you say what?

 

[Stann]

Absolutely agree. We need to talk about first principles, about the reasons we have government in the first place. But that doesn't make for sexy headlines on Fox News or MSNBC.

It's been a long road, and we were finally making progress with equality and justice for all in the truest sense of the word. Now we seem to be going backwards towards ignorance and hatred, not equality and justice for all.

 

[miketx]

And you say what?

I say you're full of shit.

 

[miketx]

It's been a long road, and we were finally making progress with equality and justice for all in the truest sense of the word. Now we seem to be going backwards towards ignorance and hatred, not equality and justice for all.

People aren't equal and they never will be commie.

 

[dblack]

Ok. Good. In it's most basic sense (upon which we can build) government is for the purpose of keeping the nation running smoothly, and that entails continuing improvements for the people, protection of the people and their vital interests, and enforcing policy for the people (FBI, CIA, police, National Guard, military, oversight agencies, etc.).

And since it is by economic means that everything gets done (markets, jobs, lifestyle maintenance, technology, programs like education, space exploration, and every kind of buying and selling), the economy is that which determines everything else. An economy that runs smoothly and produces good results, is an economy that serves society. So it is valid to say that the economic system is the foundation of everything, and all else springs from and rises to serve the economy. So actually government reflects and serves the economy by keeping it running smoothly and doing its job for society. And while government also does and serves all the functions listed above (and more), the most essential and most important job of government is the management and maintenance of the economy. ... Or it should be.

So in reality, the foundation of society is the economy and all else rises from it and operates in service to it. (This is not a description of what the US economy or government is, today. Rather, it is a description of the "textbook ideal" of what government, in general, was originally in every age intended to be.)

And you say what?

Certainly none of what you've described. I believe that government is their to protect individual rights, to protect our freedom to run society however we wish, collaboratively and voluntarily. Anything beyond that should have a) minimal impact on individual rights, and b) broad census support.

Most importantly I can't get behind the notion that government is responsible for making sure society and the economy "run smoothly". I think government should serve as the referee, but you seem to want it to be the coach.

 

[Stann]

I say you're full of shit.

Women don't even have autonomy over their own bodies now. And the Republican idiots are starting to talk against gays again. That's not progress that's going backwards.

 

[Senter]

I say you're full of shit.

Good. You're a dolt.

 

[San Souci]

The Hidden Threat of Communism in America​

Like a small, unnoticed fire in the basement which can destroy your home, Communism is lurking in the shadows of our nation.​

The Hidden Threat of Communism in America - The Stream

Americans don’t know enough about communism to see it when it starts here. Writing in the Tablet, Mary Mycio notes that we have “a certain herd immunity to Nazism and fascism.” But not to communism. The Soviet Union fell a...

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17 Sep 2021 ~~ By David Mills
Americans don’t know enough about communism to see it when it starts here. Writing in the Tablet, Mary Mycio notes that we have “a certain herd immunity to Nazism and fascism.” But not to communism.
The Soviet Union fell a long time ago, as people’s memories go. It fell almost 30 years ago. That means that no one under 45 or 50 will have any real memory of communism as a living force in the world. They know about Cuba because it’s close to us and about weird little places like North Korea. They don’t seem to think of China as a communist country. A few people try to say this, pointing to the state’s genocidal wars on its people, like the Uygurs. But few seem to care.
“After a generation of forgetting,” Mycio writes, “we have few cultural T-cells left to recognize coercive unanimity, punitive group think, and other warning signs when they appear in the body politic.” She lived in communist Ukraine and watched the Soviet Union fall after 70 years of tyranny. She wrote a book about the Chernobyl disaster, which exemplified the Soviet system. “Americans and others across the West,” she writes, “have simply forgotten about it all, or never learned about it in the first place.”
As far as I can tell, most people who think about communism at all don’t worry about it. They worry more about other people worrying about it.
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Lewis and Acton Knew This​

C.S. Lewis knew this. Writing during World War II, he worried that the “masters’ running things wouldn’t go away when the war was over. “Those who wish for whatever reason to keep their fellow-citizens regimented longer than is necessary will certainly say they are doing so in the interests of security.” Bossy people will always have a good-sounding reason for continuing to boss people around.
So did Lord Acton, author of the famous line, “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” And of a just as famous but not as well-known follow-up line: “Great men are almost always bad men.”
It’s a dark view of men in power, but then God Himself through the psalmist tells us not to put our trust in princes. The psalmist says not to do that because they die and their works will pass away, but we take from the whole of Scripture a warning against trusting people in power to serve us and the common good rather than themselves.
This is, as it happens, both a conservative and a leftist insight. Disciple of Edmund Burke or of Karl Marx, you know the modern state can’t be left on its own. It cannot be trusted always to act well nor to protect the rights and freedoms of citizens. It must be watched, closely, and all the time.

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My Kudos to Mr. Mills, he's described what has been openly hidden within America and infiltrated and woevn into our politics, media, and education of our young.
I can’t fully agree with the idea that it is hidden. They seem to be pretty much in our face with it.
They now call it “Progressivism” because it sounds nice and positive forward-sounding and doesn’t conjure up images of gulags and commissars. This is directly out of the Saul Alinsky playbook, “Rules for Radicals.”
A Progressive Marxist/DSA Democrat, Barack Hussein Obama Jr., aka Barry Soetoro told us that under his administration beginning January 21, 2009, he would seek the "Fundamental Transformation of America" and in doing so destroy the U.S. Constitution and it's Bill of Rights in the process.
Now perhaps I might see it that way because I actually know what Communism is because I grew up when people were taught what communism was.
Oddly, the ideology of Marxist Socialist Communism is no longer hidden and is displayed daily openly within the halls of Congress by dedicated and card-carrying elected members of the Democratic Party.
See: Socialists in Congress with Ties to Communist Party USA

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List Of Socialists And Communists In Congress | Religio-Political Talk (RPT)

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When Did the Democratic Party Become Socialist? - Freedom Outpost

What is the Democratic Party? Or should we ask what was the Democratic Party? Either way, it is not what it used to be, and many indications seem to show that this party is neither for the people nor for the United States as we know it. It all boils down to, when the Democratic […]

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All Democrats are Communists.

 

[San Souci]

Women don't even have autonomy over their own bodies now. And the Republican idiots are starting to talk against gays again. That's not progress that's going backwards.

Yes they do. They can say NO. Instead of tramping around.

 

[Stann]

All Democrats are Communists.

Maybe more socialist than Republicans, but definitely not communist. We still believe that the vote of the people is what matters and not getting people all riled up i and attempting to cause violent change.

 

[Stann]

Maybe more socialist than Republicans, but definitely not communist. We still believe that the vote of the people is what matters and not getting people all riled up i and attempting to cause violent change.

Correction, I keep forgetting I'm not a Democrat. I should have said they instead of we. I'm actually an independent and I stand strongly with the Democrats against this wave of Republican authoritarianism and radicalization of their members.