The Hidden Threat of Communism in America

[Soupnazi630]

Norway and all Scandanavian countries are socialist democracies.

The Southerners opposed to Lincoln did not want to call themselves Republicans for a long time, but by around 1970, Johnson changes all that, and southern racists switched over to the Republican party.

Wrong they are capitalist democracies.

 

[Soupnazi630]

We have not had a democratic republic for a long time.
Prohibition for example, would have been impossible in a democratic republic.
The war in Vietnam, the War on Drug, mandated sentences, asset forfeiture, the Invasion of Iraq, etc., are all illegal in a democratic republic.
So we have not had a democracy for a long time.

We were never a democrattic republic nor meant to be.

We are a republic.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Actually the anti-Bolshevik propaganda started big time around 1890.
That was because companies were becoming monopolies and worker were demanding unions;

It never started.

It was merely honest information about the evils of communism

 

[Senter]

I don’t care about your picky definitions. I have no interest in living in a a nation led by communists even if it is not a communist state. I know all I need to know about communism. As I said, it sucks.

I am not interested in your views about how wonderful Marx was. I have no interest in learning about Marxist socialism because it’s a dead end.

The tactics are inseparable from the ideology.

I think the general consensus is it's been tried and failed multiple times, and there's no reason to try it again.

And there are lots of good reasons not to try it again.

I mean look, this is old hat. I learned about this stuff when I was a ten year old kid growing up in San Francisco. (The commies were mostly in Berkeley, but there was a few of them over by the park). I don't feel like I have the time to debate Marxism anymore. As far as I'm concerned Marx was an okay analyst but a lousy engineer

scruffy said: "The Democratic party, right now today this very instant, is supporting AND FUNDING communists."

Marxism is a failed political system because it is 100% flawed. However you look at Marxism it is flawed.

All of you (and others) talk talk talk about "communism" and "communists" but every word you write tells me you only have the standard US propaganda BS concept of both. You see the Boogy Man but you don't see or know about communism or communists.

One post listed a claimed 45 communist principles upheld by Democrats. Some of them are, indeed, upheld by Democrats, but not one of them proves any Democrats is a communist any more than all the fascist things Republicans have said and written prove they are fascists.

One post listed Democrats who were said to be "communists" but not one of them is a communist and no evidence was provided to prove otherwise.

Communists declare they represent the working class. Republicans declare they, too, represent workers. Shall we start calling Republicans "communists" then?

I asked more than once in this thread for a definition of communism. All I actually got was Batcat saying "I don’t care about your picky definitions." So if you don't know what a word means, how can you pretend to discuss the nature and character and meaning of that word??????????????????????

All I see is a bunch of scared, hiding frauds including one who declares that I'm a Marxist and a communist because I have a little knowledge of Marx and communism.

What a sad collection of typical uninformed haters, acting like programmed cultists.

 

[Senter]

Marxism is a failed political system because it is 100% flawed. However you look at Marxism it is flawed.

That is entirely incorrect. I could offer some history, some quotes, and some facts that you already know, all of which would prove you wrong, but I really doubt you or any propagandized hater would have the patience to get past the first sentence. But I will say this much: if you knew anything about Marxism you would know it is not a political system. And secondly, you would know that the failed attempts at "Marxist revolution" failed because Marx provided no analysis of how a socialist state would look, how it would function, or how it would be achieved. Indication are that he we going to write additional studies and critiques but died before he got to it.

 

[Soupnazi630]

That is entirely incorrect. I could offer some history, some quotes, and some facts that you already know, all of which would prove you wrong, but I really doubt you or any propagandized hater would have the patience to get past the first sentence. But I will say this much: if you knew anything about Marxism you would know it is not a political system. And secondly, you would know that the failed attempts at "Marxist revolution" failed because Marx provided no analysis of how a socialist state would look, how it would function, or how it would be achieved. Indication are that he we going to write additional studies and critiques but died before he got to it.

Marxism is a political system as anyone who has studied it knows.

He did indeed describe how it would work

 

[Stann]

Hidden?

Yeah.

In plain sight.

Just calling itself the Democrat Party.

Y'know. The folks who want pregnant women to WALK to the abortion clinic because that'll "Save The Planet".

You know. You guys are doing a better job of killing people off with all your guns, and being total hypocrites in thinking that you are pro-life.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

The Hidden Threat of Communism in America​

Like a small, unnoticed fire in the basement which can destroy your home, Communism is lurking in the shadows of our nation.​

The Hidden Threat of Communism in America - The Stream

Americans don’t know enough about communism to see it when it starts here. Writing in the Tablet, Mary Mycio notes that we have “a certain herd immunity to Nazism and fascism.” But not to communism. The Soviet Union fell a...

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17 Sep 2021 ~~ By David Mills
Americans don’t know enough about communism to see it when it starts here. Writing in the Tablet, Mary Mycio notes that we have “a certain herd immunity to Nazism and fascism.” But not to communism.
The Soviet Union fell a long time ago, as people’s memories go. It fell almost 30 years ago. That means that no one under 45 or 50 will have any real memory of communism as a living force in the world. They know about Cuba because it’s close to us and about weird little places like North Korea. They don’t seem to think of China as a communist country. A few people try to say this, pointing to the state’s genocidal wars on its people, like the Uygurs. But few seem to care.
“After a generation of forgetting,” Mycio writes, “we have few cultural T-cells left to recognize coercive unanimity, punitive group think, and other warning signs when they appear in the body politic.” She lived in communist Ukraine and watched the Soviet Union fall after 70 years of tyranny. She wrote a book about the Chernobyl disaster, which exemplified the Soviet system. “Americans and others across the West,” she writes, “have simply forgotten about it all, or never learned about it in the first place.”
As far as I can tell, most people who think about communism at all don’t worry about it. They worry more about other people worrying about it.
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Lewis and Acton Knew This​

C.S. Lewis knew this. Writing during World War II, he worried that the “masters’ running things wouldn’t go away when the war was over. “Those who wish for whatever reason to keep their fellow-citizens regimented longer than is necessary will certainly say they are doing so in the interests of security.” Bossy people will always have a good-sounding reason for continuing to boss people around.
So did Lord Acton, author of the famous line, “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” And of a just as famous but not as well-known follow-up line: “Great men are almost always bad men.”
It’s a dark view of men in power, but then God Himself through the psalmist tells us not to put our trust in princes. The psalmist says not to do that because they die and their works will pass away, but we take from the whole of Scripture a warning against trusting people in power to serve us and the common good rather than themselves.
This is, as it happens, both a conservative and a leftist insight. Disciple of Edmund Burke or of Karl Marx, you know the modern state can’t be left on its own. It cannot be trusted always to act well nor to protect the rights and freedoms of citizens. It must be watched, closely, and all the time.

Commentary:
My Kudos to Mr. Mills, he's described what has been openly hidden within America and infiltrated and woevn into our politics, media, and education of our young.
I can’t fully agree with the idea that it is hidden. They seem to be pretty much in our face with it.
They now call it “Progressivism” because it sounds nice and positive forward-sounding and doesn’t conjure up images of gulags and commissars. This is directly out of the Saul Alinsky playbook, “Rules for Radicals.”
A Progressive Marxist/DSA Democrat, Barack Hussein Obama Jr., aka Barry Soetoro told us that under his administration beginning January 21, 2009, he would seek the "Fundamental Transformation of America" and in doing so destroy the U.S. Constitution and it's Bill of Rights in the process.
Now perhaps I might see it that way because I actually know what Communism is because I grew up when people were taught what communism was.
Oddly, the ideology of Marxist Socialist Communism is no longer hidden and is displayed daily openly within the halls of Congress by dedicated and card-carrying elected members of the Democratic Party.
See: Socialists in Congress with Ties to Communist Party USA

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List Of Socialists And Communists In Congress | Religio-Political Talk (RPT)

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When Did the Democratic Party Become Socialist? - Freedom Outpost

What is the Democratic Party? Or should we ask what was the Democratic Party? Either way, it is not what it used to be, and many indications seem to show that this party is neither for the people nor for the United States as we know it. It all boils down to, when the Democratic […]

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Neo-Socialsm/Fascism is a lot closer to what's being forced on us by the left than communism.

Totalitarianism is an even better description.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

You know. You guys are doing a better job of killing people off with all your guns, and being total hypocrites in thinking that you are pro-life.

We're not killing anyone other than the occasional criminal who volunteers to give up his/her life in the commission of a crime.

 

[Batcat]

scruffy said: "The Democratic party, right now today this very instant, is supporting AND FUNDING communists."



All of you (and others) talk talk talk about "communism" and "communists" but every word you write tells me you only have the standard US propaganda BS concept of both. You see the Boogy Man but you don't see or know about communism or communists.

One post listed a claimed 45 communist principles upheld by Democrats. Some of them are, indeed, upheld by Democrats, but not one of them proves any Democrats is a communist any more than all the fascist things Republicans have said and written prove they are fascists.

One post listed Democrats who were said to be "communists" but not one of them is a communist and no evidence was provided to prove otherwise.

Communists declare they represent the working class. Republicans declare they, too, represent workers. Shall we start calling Republicans "communists" then?

I asked more than once in this thread for a definition of communism. All I actually got was Batcat saying "I don’t care about your picky definitions." So if you don't know what a word means, how can you pretend to discuss the nature and character and meaning of that word??????????????????????

All I see is a bunch of scared, hiding frauds including one who declares that I'm a Marxist and a communist because I have a little knowledge of Marx and communism.

What a sad collection of typical uninformed haters, acting like programmed cultists.

You still will not change my mind about Marxist socialism. All I have to do is study history to know that form of government sucks big time.

WHY MARXISM FAILED, FAILS, AND WILL ALWAYS FAIL :: EL RINCON DEL PARQUET

www.elrincondelparquet.com

Why Socialism Always Fails

Slightly more than 20 years, I wrote the article “Why Socialism Failed” and it appeared in 1995 in The Freeman, the flagship publication of the Foundation for Economic Education. I think it was the first essay or op-ed I wrote for a general audience following graduation in 1993 from George Mason...

www.aei.org

History's Bloody Mess: Why Marxism (and Socialism) Always Fails - Christian Research Institute

www.equip.org

 

[scruffy]

scruffy said: "The Democratic party, right now today this very instant, is supporting AND FUNDING communists."



All of you (and others) talk talk talk about "communism" and "communists" but every word you write tells me you only have the standard US propaganda BS concept of both. You see the Boogy Man but you don't see or know about communism or communists.

One post listed a claimed 45 communist principles upheld by Democrats. Some of them are, indeed, upheld by Democrats, but not one of them proves any Democrats is a communist any more than all the fascist things Republicans have said and written prove they are fascists.

One post listed Democrats who were said to be "communists" but not one of them is a communist and no evidence was provided to prove otherwise.

Communists declare they represent the working class. Republicans declare they, too, represent workers. Shall we start calling Republicans "communists" then?

I asked more than once in this thread for a definition of communism. All I actually got was Batcat saying "I don’t care about your picky definitions." So if you don't know what a word means, how can you pretend to discuss the nature and character and meaning of that word??????????????????????

All I see is a bunch of scared, hiding frauds including one who declares that I'm a Marxist and a communist because I have a little knowledge of Marx and communism.

What a sad collection of typical uninformed haters, acting like programmed cultists.

Hey dumb shit, the entire BLM leadership are self declared Marxists.

There's no doubt about it. They said so themselves.

 

[scruffy]

The commies are coming, the commies are coming, the commies are coming!

We've been hearing this same nonsense since the '50s.

Hey stupid libtard, do you know who funded Black Lives Matter?

SUSAN ROSENBERG.

You know where she is?

She's in Maryland.

Right here, right now

 

[Mac1958]

 

[Dragonlady]

The flu shot is not a good idea.
There are hundreds of different viruses that we do not differentiate, but collectively call flu.
So no flu shot can be very effective, because we don't know which one it will be that year.
So we just try to get close, and with a virus, close is worse than none at all.
That is because it just makes us feel better, but does not actually prevent infection.
That allows it then to spread even more, as people do not stay home when infected.

The mRNA covid shots are even worse.
Since they have no neutralized pathogen, there is nothing for the immune system to remember and later trigger on.
It is a total fake.
All the mRNA does is get our own ribosomes to grow spike proteins on our own cells.
That is dangerous for many reasons, but the main problem is that our own exosomes use the same spike proteins, so a deadly autoimmune response is possible.

Thank you Doctor Rigby. You're abject ignorance on the topic is certainly noted.

What a load of garbage you've posted. Preventing serious illness and death is a perfectly good and valid reason for both the flu shot and the MNRA vaccines. I guess the declining number of deaths and hospitalizations among the vaccinated isn't enough to convince you of the importance of the vaccines.

There is no cure for the arrogance of idiots who know better than the experts.

 

[Dragonlady]

Hey stupid libtard, do you know who funded Black Lives Matter?

SUSAN ROSENBERG.

You know where she is?

She's in Maryland.

Right here, right now

Hey stupid FuckBoi. You're still railing about "commies". Bleating like a sheep everything you've been told by the right without a thought in your head.

 

[Senter]

Neo-Socialsm/Fascism is a lot closer to what's being forced on us by the left .....

You mean by the right. The left didn't stage an attempted coup in an insurrection Jan 6.

 

[Senter]

We're not killing anyone other than the occasional criminal who volunteers to give up his/her life in the commission of a crime.

Wow. You guys can reverse any truth, can't you?

 

[Senter]

You still will not change my mind about Marxist socialism. All I have to do is study history to know that form of government sucks big time.

WHY MARXISM FAILED, FAILS, AND WILL ALWAYS FAIL :: EL RINCON DEL PARQUET

www.elrincondelparquet.com

Why Socialism Always Fails

Slightly more than 20 years, I wrote the article “Why Socialism Failed” and it appeared in 1995 in The Freeman, the flagship publication of the Foundation for Economic Education. I think it was the first essay or op-ed I wrote for a general audience following graduation in 1993 from George Mason...

www.aei.org

History's Bloody Mess: Why Marxism (and Socialism) Always Fails - Christian Research Institute

www.equip.org

History won't tell you how socialism operates or what it is. But it takes sufficient intelligence to realize that there has never been a country in which the working class has been liberated from capitalist exploitation by owning and running the MoP.

 

[Senter]

Hey dumb shit, the entire BLM leadership are self declared Marxists.

There's no doubt about it. They said so themselves.

I see plenty of people on forums declaring they're socialists and who turn out to know nothing about it including what it is by definition. Patrisse Cullors said she is a "trained Marxist". And you're so gullible and ignorant of Marxism that you don't seem to know there is no place to get "training" as a Marxist!!!! Ya DOPE! So guess what that means. It means no one is a "trained Marxist" and Cullors was just trying to be an irritation to you, and it worked!

Now, I'll give you one more chance. Call me a foul thing again and you won't be communicating with me again.

 

[dblack]

Let's go to the source:

But let us have done with the bourgeois objections to Communism.

We have seen above, that the first step in the revolution by the working class, is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling as to win the battle of democracy.

The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degrees, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralise all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organised as the ruling class; and to increase the total of productive forces as rapidly as possible.

Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionising the mode of production.

These measures will of course be different in different countries.

Nevertheless in the most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c., &c.

Is there any doubt that today's "left", and sadly much of the "right", is headed down this road?