The Duke
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With Russian-based weapons? Okay.I already know how to say "**** off" in Russian. Will that be enough?
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With Russian-based weapons? Okay.I already know how to say "**** off" in Russian. Will that be enough?
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Yes...but America was gone a long time ago. We are not on the way to being a pariah; we were there a long time ago. I can't tell you when the USA went to shit. But one YT commentator said America was great when it had integrity. And maybe looking for perfect integrity is too much to ask. In the case of the USA, lets say it was great when it had 'some' integrity.
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The premise of your post is faulty. The U.S. and NATO will never break their alliance. The NATO nations would be sitting ducks for China/Russian aggression. Xi and Putin are suffering due to Trump's policies. Russia's economy is circling the drain and Xi's China is not doing much better.From the Wall Street Journal:
For more than 75 years, the fondest dream of Russian strategy has been to divide Western Europe from the U.S. and break the NATO alliance. That is now a possibility as President Trump presses his campaign to capture Greenland no matter what the locals or its Denmark owner thinks.
Mr. Trump on Saturday threatened to impose a 10% tariff starting Feb. 1 on a handful of European countries that have opposed his attempt to obtain U.S. sovereignty over Greenland. The tariff would jump to 25% on June 1. Presumably this tariff would come on top of the rates Mr. Trump already negotiated in trade deals last year (10% for Britain, 15% for the European Union).
The targets are Denmark (which owns Greenland), Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Finland and the United Kingdom. All participated in a recent military exercise on the world’s largest island that was intended to reassure Washington that Europe wants to work with the U.S. to defend Greenland from Russia and China….
No one should underestimate the shock his Greenland project is producing among allies. Along with his tariffs and his tilt toward Russia against Ukraine, he is alienating Western Europe in a way that will be hard to repair. It’s true that Europe may not be in a position to resist if Mr. Trump really wants to go to war over the island. But say good-bye to NATO.
The sad irony is that China and Russia may be the biggest winners, though Mr. Trump justifies his Greenland necessity in the name of deterring both. Canada’s Prime Minister bent the knee to Xi Jinping this past week, and Britain’s PM is heading there this month. The EU and South American countries have struck a big free-trade pact...
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-greenland-war-of-2026-europe-trump-tariff-e27b8b98?mod=hp_opin_pos_2
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I’ve said it many times but Xi and Putin have to love Trump. Even the WSJ now acknowledges that Trump is doing the work of our adversaries. I don’t know if the evil that Trump is undertaking can ever be undone. The reputation of the US is shot.
The reputation of the US is now just like Trump’s: Unreliable, lying, chaotic, bullying, and most of all untrustworthy.
Who the **** believes anything Trump negotiates? He makes agreements and disregard them on a whim. Just like he did with his contractors. Just like he did with his so-called trade agreements. Why deal with Trump? He lies and his word is trash.
I have no doubt Trump wants to invade Greenland, whether he does or not, will depend on whether there is a cabinet member that can get through to him, which I seriously doubt.
Forget the Pub Congress. They are just Trump’s eunuchs.
Say goodbye to the US as we knew it. We are on the way to pariah status.
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Bullshit alert!!!!Yeah, no.
Look, Denmark isn't protecting their own country, let alone a territory multiple times larger. No.
an attack on one is an attack on all is the NATO treaty signed by various countries including the US.Trust us to do what? Fight their wars for them?
In a normal world, we’d see a group of congressional Republicans walk into the Oval Office tomorrow.
They’d tell the President that the insane letter he wrote was the last straw, that this simply cannot continue, and that it’s over. They’d tell Melania that her husband is unwell and needs help.
Either resign or be impeached immediately, they’d tell him, and they leave.
In a normal world.
NATO is full of allies who would help us but can't, those who could help but won't, and those who can't and won't.an attack on one is an attack on all is the NATO treaty signed by various countries including the US.
Remember 9/11..LOL. NATO was with us then and was quick to come to our request. You MAGA have no knowledge of history or just don’t give a damn.NATO is full of allies who would help us but can't, those who could help but won't, and those who can't and won't.
You MAGA are all alike. Just ignore Trump’s own words. Of course, it is refreshing that you are calling Trump a liar when he says he hasn’t taken military force off the table. We can at least agree that he lies.The premise of your post is faulty. The U.S. and NATO will never break their alliance. The NATO nations would be sitting ducks for China/Russian aggression. Xi and Putin are suffering due to Trump's policies. Russia's economy is circling the drain and Xi's China is not doing much better.
Trump will never invade Greenland because we already have a strong foothold there with a decades long airbase. You're a real loon.
From the Wall Street Journal:
For more than 75 years, the fondest dream of Russian strategy has been to divide Western Europe from the U.S. and break the NATO alliance. That is now a possibility as President Trump presses his campaign to capture Greenland no matter what the locals or its Denmark owner thinks.
Mr. Trump on Saturday threatened to impose a 10% tariff starting Feb. 1 on a handful of European countries that have opposed his attempt to obtain U.S. sovereignty over Greenland. The tariff would jump to 25% on June 1. Presumably this tariff would come on top of the rates Mr. Trump already negotiated in trade deals last year (10% for Britain, 15% for the European Union).
The targets are Denmark (which owns Greenland), Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Finland and the United Kingdom. All participated in a recent military exercise on the world’s largest island that was intended to reassure Washington that Europe wants to work with the U.S. to defend Greenland from Russia and China….
No one should underestimate the shock his Greenland project is producing among allies. Along with his tariffs and his tilt toward Russia against Ukraine, he is alienating Western Europe in a way that will be hard to repair. It’s true that Europe may not be in a position to resist if Mr. Trump really wants to go to war over the island. But say good-bye to NATO.
The sad irony is that China and Russia may be the biggest winners, though Mr. Trump justifies his Greenland necessity in the name of deterring both. Canada’s Prime Minister bent the knee to Xi Jinping this past week, and Britain’s PM is heading there this month. The EU and South American countries have struck a big free-trade pact...
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-greenland-war-of-2026-europe-trump-tariff-e27b8b98?mod=hp_opin_pos_2
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I’ve said it many times but Xi and Putin have to love Trump. Even the WSJ now acknowledges that Trump is doing the work of our adversaries. I don’t know if the evil that Trump is undertaking can ever be undone. The reputation of the US is shot.
The reputation of the US is now just like Trump’s: Unreliable, lying, chaotic, bullying, and most of all untrustworthy.
Who the **** believes anything Trump negotiates? He makes agreements and disregard them on a whim. Just like he did with his contractors. Just like he did with his so-called trade agreements. Why deal with Trump? He lies and his word is trash.
I have no doubt Trump wants to invade Greenland, whether he does or not, will depend on whether there is a cabinet member that can get through to him, which I seriously doubt.
Forget the Pub Congress. They are just Trump’s eunuchs.
Say goodbye to the US as we knew it. We are on the way to pariah status.
Yeah, which is why Greenland falls under the NATO umbrella. BTW I don’t t remember Truman threatening to bomb Greenland if Denmark did not sell Greenland. Perhaps you can show me where Truman threatened them?I trust all these esteemed expert are aware the issue of national security, Greenland, has its roots back in the Cold War days under Harry Truman?
Remember Ukraine when they didn't? And that is 4 years ago and in their own backyard!Remember 9/11..LOL. NATO was with us then and was quick to come to our request. You MAGA have no knowledge of history or just don’t give a damn.
If I am not mistaken Truman was going to trade parts of Alaska in exchange. You are aware of what the total population of Greenland is?Yeah, which is why Greenland falls under the NATO umbrella. BTW I don’t t remember Truman threatening to bomb Greenland if Denmark did not sell Greenland. Perhaps you can show me where Truman threatened them?
What difference does that make? So, Greenland has a small population we should seize the nation by force. What part of “Greenland falls under the NATO umbrella” you don’t understand?If I am not mistaken Truman was going to trade parts of Alaska in exchange. You are aware of what the total population of Greenland is?
Trust us to do what? Fight their wars for them?