Zone1 The Great Difficulty Of Being Religious.....

[PoliticalChic]

In the face of the communist take-over of religious institutions.

1. It was a brilliant plan by the communists:
“Antonio Gramsci, the philosopher who became the iconic thinker of the 1960s, laid down the blueprint for precisely what has happened in Britain: the capture of all society's institutions, such as schools, universities, churches, the media, the legal profession, the police and voluntary groups. This intellectual elite was persuaded to sing from the same subversive hymn-sheet so that the moral beliefs of the majority would be replaced by the values of those on the margins of society, the perfect ambience in which the Muslim grievance culture could be fanned into the flames of extremism."
Melanie Phillips

2. "In 1907, a group of Methodists formed the Methodist Federation for Social Service (MFSS). The aim was to influence other Protestant groups. The next day, the group is received by President Theodore Roosevelt in the White House. One of the leaders, Harry F. Ward drafts a Social Creed that will be adopted by the 1908 General Conference and by the Federal Council of the Churches of Christ in America. Methodist Federation for Social Action

"The church, therefore, in the opinion of the federation, must accept
the Marxist point of viewThe federation, therefore, wants the religious leaders to preach a religious creed, not based upon the Bible and in defense of the American way of life, but one that is based upon the atheistic foundations of the philosophy of Marx. The federation wants the ministers to declare their judgment against the social economic system under which Americans live and prosper today in favor of the Socialist system, which in Russia and the satellite countries has brought the peoples." Read the ebook Investigation of Communist activities in the New York City area. Hearings (Volume pt. 5-6, pp. 1969-2143) by United States. Congress. House. Committee on Un-Am


3. And in trhe Catholic Church today...

"The Catholic turn to socialism is something to celebrate​

The turn to socialism must be seen as part of a general retrieval of the genuine political thought of the Catholic Church, against the misinterpretations of an older generation. The better part of a decade has now been spent identifying and correcting liberal corruptions of Catholic doctrine; once these have been dealt with, the socialist character of Catholic social teaching becomes clear.

By “socialism” I mean two things essentially: the rejection of the liberal, capitalist view of private property, and consequently the abolition of an economic order predicated on the exploitation of those who do not have property by those who do. Socialists desire a society of the common good, in which citizens collaborate for mutual advantage in enjoyment of peace and security; a society where the public authority is empowered to correct injuries to the common good, rather than standing by indifferently, as if it were powerless in the face of evil.
What a socialist means by the abolition of private property....."

The Catholic turn to socialism is something to celebrate - Catholic Herald

Why are so many younger Catholics drawn to socialism? Writing on this site, CC Pecknold recently suggested that "an increasingly vocal band of very online Catholics" is trying and failing "to reconcile socialist principles with (specifically Thomist) natural law principles". As one of these...

thecatholicherald.com

4. There is absolutely no basis for Socialism in the Bible.

An accurate understanding of the Bible requires the distinction between 'redistribution' and 'generosity.'
"Some people conclude from these verses that the Bible supports government-enforced wealth redistribution. But what these verses really show is that the Bible advocates generosity.

These are two very different concepts.
Generosity springs from free will....not force, coercion, or threats.
The motivation to give and share originates in compassion, as 1 John 3:17 indicates—but there is choice involved.
With socialism, it is the opposite.
Redistribution of wealth is always by force of government. The government simply uses its overwhelming power to take what it thinks is “fair” from the “givers.” Is God a Socialist?



5. Generosity is based on choice....on free will....the cornerstone of Judeo-Christian tradition.
Not so with any of these six: Socialism, Liberalism, Communism, Fascism, Nazism, or Progressivism.

 

[Donald H]

The great difficulty of being religious has become the impossibility of believing the bibles are literally true, and the backslidiing of the Catholic church into accepting it as just allegorical tales.

This has resulted in the final death blow to Christianity that is the CC accepting Darwinian evolution!

All the trolling our Chicy can invent isn't going to change the minds of the CC's very wealthy pedophiles.

Nor can it save the souls of the altar boys whose lives have been sacrificed by priests.

 

[rightwinger]

The most difficult thing about being religious is expecting grown adults to believe in fairy tales

And then believing your fairy tales are more believable than others.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The great difficulty of being religious has become the impossibility of believing the bibles are literally true, and the backslidiing of the Catholic church into accepting it as just allegorical tales.

This has resulted in the final death blow to Christianity that is the CC accepting Darwinian evolution!

All the trolling our Chicy can invent isn't going to change the minds of the CC's very wealthy pedophiles.

Nor can it save the souls of the altar boys whose lives have been sacrificed by priests.

But you've made it clear that to you human life is not sacrosanct...


You wrote about your love of communism......
“Better red than dead!” What If Kamala Knows Whereof She Speaks??? post 54


And this....
You were praising mass slaughter as the way to improving the economy of a nation….
It Has Become A One Question IQ Test
post 172



This thread isn't for you, pagan.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I can see the subject has generated the ire of those of a very different religion.

 

[alang1216]

In the face of the communist take-over of religious institutions.

1. It was a brilliant plan by the communists:
“Antonio Gramsci, the philosopher who became the iconic thinker of the 1960s, laid down the blueprint for precisely what has happened in Britain: the capture of all society's institutions, such as schools, universities, churches, the media, the legal profession, the police and voluntary groups. This intellectual elite was persuaded to sing from the same subversive hymn-sheet so that the moral beliefs of the majority would be replaced by the values of those on the margins of society, the perfect ambience in which the Muslim grievance culture could be fanned into the flames of extremism."
Melanie Phillips

2. "In 1907, a group of Methodists formed the Methodist Federation for Social Service (MFSS). The aim was to influence other Protestant groups. The next day, the group is received by President Theodore Roosevelt in the White House. One of the leaders, Harry F. Ward drafts a Social Creed that will be adopted by the 1908 General Conference and by the Federal Council of the Churches of Christ in America. Methodist Federation for Social Action

"The church, therefore, in the opinion of the federation, must accept
the Marxist point of viewThe federation, therefore, wants the religious leaders to preach a religious creed, not based upon the Bible and in defense of the American way of life, but one that is based upon the atheistic foundations of the philosophy of Marx. The federation wants the ministers to declare their judgment against the social economic system under which Americans live and prosper today in favor of the Socialist system, which in Russia and the satellite countries has brought the peoples." Read the ebook Investigation of Communist activities in the New York City area. Hearings (Volume pt. 5-6, pp. 1969-2143) by United States. Congress. House. Committee on Un-Am


3. And in trhe Catholic Church today...

"The Catholic turn to socialism is something to celebrate​

The turn to socialism must be seen as part of a general retrieval of the genuine political thought of the Catholic Church, against the misinterpretations of an older generation. The better part of a decade has now been spent identifying and correcting liberal corruptions of Catholic doctrine; once these have been dealt with, the socialist character of Catholic social teaching becomes clear.

By “socialism” I mean two things essentially: the rejection of the liberal, capitalist view of private property, and consequently the abolition of an economic order predicated on the exploitation of those who do not have property by those who do. Socialists desire a society of the common good, in which citizens collaborate for mutual advantage in enjoyment of peace and security; a society where the public authority is empowered to correct injuries to the common good, rather than standing by indifferently, as if it were powerless in the face of evil.
What a socialist means by the abolition of private property....."

The Catholic turn to socialism is something to celebrate - Catholic Herald

Why are so many younger Catholics drawn to socialism? Writing on this site, CC Pecknold recently suggested that "an increasingly vocal band of very online Catholics" is trying and failing "to reconcile socialist principles with (specifically Thomist) natural law principles". As one of these...

thecatholicherald.com

4. There is absolutely no basis for Socialism in the Bible.

An accurate understanding of the Bible requires the distinction between 'redistribution' and 'generosity.'
"Some people conclude from these verses that the Bible supports government-enforced wealth redistribution. But what these verses really show is that the Bible advocates generosity.

These are two very different concepts.
Generosity springs from free will....not force, coercion, or threats.
The motivation to give and share originates in compassion, as 1 John 3:17 indicates—but there is choice involved.
With socialism, it is the opposite.
Redistribution of wealth is always by force of government. The government simply uses its overwhelming power to take what it thinks is “fair” from the “givers.” Is God a Socialist?



5. Generosity is based on choice....on free will....the cornerstone of Judeo-Christian tradition.
Not so with any of these six: Socialism, Liberalism, Communism, Fascism, Nazism, or Progressivism.

It seems to me that you and others on the Right hate communism because you innately see it as a competing religion. Like most religions, communism offers all the answers in one package. There is no such thing.

The irony here is that the Christianity of Paul was communal, you ate meals and worshipped together. If a member of the church was ill the others came to their aid. Something a pagan would never do, except for maybe a relative. It was this sense of community, that they were all in it together, that really allowed Christianity to grow as it did.

 

[BreezeWood]

communism if not a religion as alleged is then allowed to be taught throughout all schools in the u s as a governmental model for consideration - than the demonic desert religions prohibited by the constitutions for any gov't application.

as then, there is no difficulty being religious in ones own home - just leave it there when in the public domain.

 

[toobfreak]

The Great Difficulty Of Being Religious.....​

There is no difficulty in being religious---

1. If you have a direct, first-hand religious experience, you have no choice of being religious or not no more than you can deny the existence of the Sun.
2. If you have an indirect religious experience, your religion is born out by faith. It is as strong as your belief.
3. If you have no religious experience at all, you will be atheist or agnostic, and God cannot be rationally proven outside the spiritual heart anyway, so you will forever remain a skeptic.
4. But if you are punished from without and forbade from practicing overt religious ceremonies, still no matter, because no one can forbid you from much less know what you hold dear and true in your heart.

 

[Meriweather]

The most difficult thing about being religious is expecting grown adults to believe in fairy tales

And then believing your fairy tales are more believable than others.

The non-religious pretend religion/faith is about fairy tales when it's a philosophy dealing with the human spirit and human spirituality. This takes intellect and intelligence and therefore not for the inert or lazy.

As for the Opening Post...religion is not (or shouldn't be) for the politically minded, either.

 

[rightwinger]

The non-religious pretend religion/faith is about fairy tales when it's a philosophy dealing with the human spirit and human spirituality. This takes intellect and intelligence and therefore not for the inert or lazy.

As for the Opening Post...religion is not (or shouldn't be) for the politically minded, either.

It is a fantasy based on magical creatures and miracles

 

[Meriweather]

It is a fantasy based on magical creatures and miracles

It's reality, based on living a life where God is first. Or goodness and love are first if one is unable to connect with God. It's hard work.

 

[dudmuck]

The most difficult thing about being religious is expecting grown adults to believe in fairy tales

And then believing your fairy tales are more believable than others.

since we have NDE research from the likes of Jeffery Long, it becomes more of science fact than belief.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It seems to me that you and others on the Right hate communism because you innately see it as a competing religion. Like most religions, communism offers all the answers in one package. There is no such thing.

The irony here is that the Christianity of Paul was communal, you ate meals and worshipped together. If a member of the church was ill the others came to their aid. Something a pagan would never do, except for maybe a relative. It was this sense of community, that they were all in it together, that really allowed Christianity to grow as it did.

"the Right hate communism because you innately see it as a competing religion."

Tell me Captain Obvious......did you study with Agent Starling????
I just wrote that in the post above yours......Communists/socialists/Bolsheviks/Democrats are a religion in competition with the Judeo-Christian religion.


.....the Marxism that you worship is a religion.



For the Democrats, Liberals, Communists, Nazis, Fascists.....Militant Secularism. Lacking self-awareness, the Democrats, Liberals, Progressives ridicule religion as superstition......but kneel to their false religion, Militant Secularism.
From the Amazon review of Godless, by Coulter…


Though liberalism rejects the idea of God and reviles people of faith, it bears all the attributes of a religion. In Godless, Coulter throws open the doors of the Church of Liberalism, showing us its sacraments (abortion), its holy writ (Roe v. Wade), its martyrs (from Soviet spy Alger Hiss to cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal), its clergy (public school teachers), its churches (government schools, where prayer is prohibited but condoms are free), its doctrine of infallibility (as manifest in the "absolute moral authority" of spokesmen from Cindy Sheehan to Max Cleland), and its cosmology (in which mankind is an inconsequential accident).

Then, of course, there's the liberal creation myth: Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.



Here we can watch their religious service:

 

[PoliticalChic]

communism if not a religion as alleged is then allowed to be taught throughout all schools in the u s as a governmental model for consideration - than the demonic desert religions prohibited by the constitutions for any gov't application.

as then, there is no difficulty being religious in ones own home - just leave it there when in the public domain.

Now....just hold on while I retrieve my Captain Midnight secret decoder ring..... Where the heck did you learn to write English, a government school???? "

Please compose your post BEFORE you begin drinking.

 

[rightwinger]

Now....just hold on while I retrieve my Captain Midnight secret decoder ring..... Where the heck did you learn to write English, a government school???? "

Please compose your post BEFORE you begin drinking.

You need to read your OP
Word Salad

 

[PoliticalChic]

There is no difficulty in being religious---

1. If you have a direct, first-hand religious experience, you have no choice of being religious or not no more than you can deny the existence of the Sun.
2. If you have an indirect religious experience, your religion is born out by faith. It is as strong as your belief.
3. If you have no religious experience at all, you will be atheist or agnostic, and God cannot be rationally proven outside the spiritual heart anyway, so you will forever remain a skeptic.
4. But if you are punished from without and forbade from practicing overt religious ceremonies, still no matter, because no one can forbid you from much less know what you hold dear and true in your heart.

I believe you missed the point of the OP....or, you didn't bother to read it.

The communists have, in large measure, taken control in both the Protestant and Roman Catholic churches....as I documented.

To be religious today, as per the Bible, one must do their own thinking and reading.

Otherwise one claims to be a member of either of those churches, but in reality, is a Democrat.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The non-religious pretend religion/faith is about fairy tales when it's a philosophy dealing with the human spirit and human spirituality. This takes intellect and intelligence and therefore not for the inert or lazy.

As for the Opening Post...religion is not (or shouldn't be) for the politically minded, either.

And on the subject of fairy tales, all Leftist views begin with the fairy tale that they can change human nature.


b. Communist Revolution is based on the idea of transforming human nature. “The New Soviet man or New Soviet person (Russian: новый советский человек), as postulated by the ideologists of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, was an archetype of a person with certain qualities that were said to be emerging as dominant among all citizens of the Soviet Union, irrespective of the country's long-standing cultural, ethnic, and linguistic diversity, creating a single Soviet people, Soviet nation.<a href="New Soviet man - Wikipedia">[1]</a>

New Soviet man - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Leon Trotsky wrote in his Literature and Revolution <a href="New Soviet man - Wikipedia">[2]</a> :

"The human species, the sluggish Homo sapiens, will once again enter the stage of radical reconstruction and become in his own hands the object of the most complex methods of artificial selection and psychophysical training... Man will make it his goal...to create a higher sociobiological type, a superman, if you will"

New Soviet man - Wikipedia



“And they said you’d be a proud one. Still the Comintern movie star. The vanity, the narcissism, the love of self. That is why you’ll never be a true Soviet man. You can’t let the love affair you have with your mirror go; you’re too used to being special.” From the novel “Havana,” Stephen Hunter



The birth of "The New Soviet Man" was the stated aim of Marxism, breeding a new evolutionary form of human being who will think, look, and act differently. The next footage was the Nazi attempt to do exactly the same thing: in German, "We must create a new man! A new life form should appear!"

a. "In both systems we have the ideology of creating a new man. Both systems don't agree with human nature as it is...they are at war with human nature. Both are based on false biology, and false sociology."
Françoise Thom, professor of Soviet history, Sorbonne, Paris




. In 1969, Hillary Rodham gave the student commencement address at Wellesley in which she said that “ for too long our leaders have used politics as the art of making what appears to be impossible, possible….We’re not interested in social reconstruction; it’s human reconstruction.”

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www.wellesley.edu

 

[PoliticalChic]

The non-religious pretend religion/faith is about fairy tales when it's a philosophy dealing with the human spirit and human spirituality. This takes intellect and intelligence and therefore not for the inert or lazy.

As for the Opening Post...religion is not (or shouldn't be) for the politically minded, either.

.....and, it is not possible to separate religion and politics.

 

[toobfreak]

I believe you missed the point of the OP....or, you didn't bother to read it.

Yeah, maybe, I was really speaking to religion itself as an adjunct to the thread as someone who actually went to school for god.

The communists have, in large measure, taken control in both the Protestant and Roman Catholic churches....as I documented.

That would be bad. And really the fault of the churches themselves for not remaining true to their faith, and perhaps trying to take shortcuts hoping to maintain broader appeal to more people.

To be religious today, as per the Bible, one must do their own thinking and reading.

Sage advice in any age.

Otherwise one claims to be a member of either of those churches, but in reality, is a Democrat.

No wonder the churches are failing. The answer is what Trump is doing, bringing the flag, pledge of allegiance, defense of religion and other things back to schools.

 

[Meriweather]

since we have NDE research from the likes of Jeffery Long, it becomes more of science fact than belief.

The newest research on the Shroud of Turin is something to think about as well.