The GOP has reached the point of no return on Climate Change

[nodoginnafight]

If you have a medical condition, do you go see an accountant about it?

If you need help with your tax returns, do you go see a plumber?

If you have questions about climate - you ask a climatologist - not an oil company geologist.

I don't favor bankrupting folks who are already struggling with high energy costs. But at least I don't have to lie to myself and others denying the best science we have on the subject.

That's exactly what you are doing.

What am I doing?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Do you honestly think the that this is a winning issue for you?

No, this is not a winning or losing issue. Its acceptance or denial of science based on feelings.



Again when you look at everything thru a polictical partisan lens of course you'll deny science based on feelings and your gut. When you are hammer everything looks like a nail right?



What you just said here is you dont know why you are denying the science. You just are just describing how scientists conduct research and pretending its all mumbo jumbo. Scientists are just wacky and what good are computers anyway waka waka

You advocate changing our ENTIRE economy based on these silly models.....while decrying the fact that so many Chinese, Pakistani's and third worlder's are about to enter carbon fuel consumption marketplace.

That is stupid.

Make the THEM alter THEIR "projected" usage if it means so much to you.

1. No I dont advocate for changing entire anything but you have to fight against some sort of made up enemy so go ahead.
2. What other countries do doesnt matter unless you're saying America should follow China and other 3rd world countries in every way. Wait, no you just think that America should follow China in polluting? Wait....you have no point
3. What they do has nothign to do with this. If China changed today you would suddenly change your position....suuuuuuure

A lot of words to say absolutely nothing.

Let's remove you from the equation, your leader advocates changing our way of life.....to fight this percieved menace.

I reject it because it has NOT been proven, you would claim that it has....but that is YOUR article of faith, not mine.

WE, the United States have done enough, **** the rest of the World.
If they are so worried about it let them do something about it.
No more US money, no more US regulations.

The public has and will continue to reject this stupidity not because THEY are stupid, but because they can smell a pig.

So this is how con logic works. You say I want to change the entire world. I say no I dont and your response is "So if we change the world for you then..." Completely ignoring my position because its hard to think about it in favor of your canned stump speech which is the same thing I already responded too but since you proclaim my words as nothing you go right back into repeating yourself Its like you have a script

 

[Politico]

No that is progressives.

 

[edthecynic]

The biggest denier of all is PLANET EARTH. It hasn't warmed in 16 years.....despite record levels of CO2....

Giss

Avg temperature for decade
2000-2009 .555c
2000 .4
2001 .52
2002 .61
2003 .59
2004 .51
2005 .65
2006 .58
2007 .62
2008 .48
2009 .59


2010-2013 .585c +.03
2010 .65c
2011 .54c
2012 .56c
2013 .59c

 

[zeke]

How much of it is caused by Human Activity?

1%

2%

5%

10%

20%

50%

99.9%

0%

How much?

You people are cultists. You're no different than any other socialist/communist-inspired cult.

Jonestown, anyone?

You people are stupid

Nah dude, you really are the stupid one. Everything has a beginning. This course of events is in the beginning. We are witnessing the start of a series of change that we don't know the final outcome of. We are introducing a level of carbon into the atmosphere that hasn't been done before. (by burning oil and coal)

How in the **** can you be stupid enough to not acknowledge that we just don't ******* know what the long term consequences of this action will be.

However what can be observed of the change doesn't look good.

As tens of millions of Chinese and Indians and Pakistanis and on and on ready top start driving more and more. And more and more coal fired electric generating plants come on line in China, what do you think the cumulative effect of adding even higher levels of carbon will be?

If your answer is; no effect. Then you really are stupid. Purposefully stupid. Why?

Of COURSE it will have an effect on our Climate and our atmosphere and on a lot of things.

Nobody is saying it won't. At least.... I'm not.

I mock you because you people are just stupid....

Here's an example of your stupidity.....

You get laws passed here (as opposed to, say.... China or India where the real pollution is occurring).... But you get stupid ******* laws passed here that are so restrictive, so choking as to kill American Industry, where we have a MUCH better handle on pollution.....

And force it offshore to places like China and India where they just don't GIVE A ****.

Where one coal-fired plant a week is being built.

And what do you stupid motherfuckers do?

You keep trying to get more laws passed here, you ramp up the Criminal Organization known as the EPA and get them shutting down more and more American Industries and China and India keep building more and more dirty smokestacks, with NO CONTROLS on pollution and....

You people are so INCREDIBLY STUPID, you think you're accomplishing something......

When all you're doing is making it worse.

Because that's ALL dimocraps EVER DO. You make things worse. Everything you touch you **** it up. Everything.

Because you're stupid.

Don't bore me with the 'What's your solution' bullshit.

I might tell you.

Hot dayum. I think the above highlighted words represents progress.

Now go ahead and do the "I might tell you" the solution part.

Did you really agree that increasing the amount of carbon in the atmosphere will have a negative effect? Damn. That really is progress.

Now, to the part of "leading by example"? You don't like that idea eh?

 

[westwall]

If you have a medical condition, do you go see an accountant about it?

If you need help with your tax returns, do you go see a plumber?

If you have questions about climate - you ask a climatologist - not an oil company geologist.

I don't favor bankrupting folks who are already struggling with high energy costs. But at least I don't have to lie to myself and others denying the best science we have on the subject.

Well. If we are going to compare analogies you have to get your facts straight. So far the climatologists have failed to predict anything that has occurred. Charlatans like Jean Dixon have a better predictive rate than climatologists as a whole.

So, to use your analogy, if I were sick, I should go see a charlatan instead of a doctor when I get sick.

 

[westwall]

No, this is not a winning or losing issue. Its acceptance or denial of science based on feelings.



Again when you look at everything thru a polictical partisan lens of course you'll deny science based on feelings and your gut. When you are hammer everything looks like a nail right?



What you just said here is you dont know why you are denying the science. You just are just describing how scientists conduct research and pretending its all mumbo jumbo. Scientists are just wacky and what good are computers anyway waka waka



1. No I dont advocate for changing entire anything but you have to fight against some sort of made up enemy so go ahead.
2. What other countries do doesnt matter unless you're saying America should follow China and other 3rd world countries in every way. Wait, no you just think that America should follow China in polluting? Wait....you have no point
3. What they do has nothign to do with this. If China changed today you would suddenly change your position....suuuuuuure

A lot of words to say absolutely nothing.

Let's remove you from the equation, your leader advocates changing our way of life.....to fight this percieved menace.

I reject it because it has NOT been proven, you would claim that it has....but that is YOUR article of faith, not mine.

WE, the United States have done enough, **** the rest of the World.
If they are so worried about it let them do something about it.
No more US money, no more US regulations.

The public has and will continue to reject this stupidity not because THEY are stupid, but because they can smell a pig.

So this is how con logic works. You say I want to change the entire world. I say no I dont and your response is "So if we change the world for you then..." Completely ignoring my position because its hard to think about it in favor of your canned stump speech which is the same thing I already responded too but since you proclaim my words as nothing you go right back into repeating yourself Its like you have a script

The US has already lowered CO2 emissions. The only countries where CO2 is going up is India and China. m There are no regulations to control them. Thus anything that you do here in the US only affects us....and weakens us.

Further, why is it that NONE of the regulations deal with actual pollution control? N. The regs merely say "you can continue to pollute, you just have to pay us for the privilege". And who are we? Rich bankers who have figured out a way to tax the very air you breath and you fools want them to get away with it.

ENRON, that paragon of virtue that you all so rightfully despise, is the inventor of the carbon tax. Funny how you all have forgotten that fact.

 

[g4racer]

I find the lefts never ending ability to blame the Koch brothers for any and everything wrong in the world both amusing and pathetic. How long before you blame them for your bad hair days?

I don't see where people are blaming the Koch Boys for the problems, it has to do with just financing them.