The gay cake thingy

So, naturally

Hotels can refuse gay honeymoons
Restaurants can refuse a reception......gays can eat here, they just can’t celebrate a wedding
Photographers, florists, limo companies, jewelers can all refuse service

A backdoor way to harass gays

Not at all. For example, before one hires an artist, both client and artist must agree to the project. Would you be in favor of insisting an artist depict a nude woman if it was against his conscience to do so? Especially when the artist offered to depict a woman clothed instead?
A real artist wouldn't object to painting a nude woman.

Who are you to define a real artist? That is best left up to the artist. I know a few that would never consider doing such.
 
The Left should decide once and for all, is it legal to oppose gay sex? For example, should churches be allowed to refuse a gay wedding?

If not, you may as well round up all the Bibles and have a big wiener roast and burn them, Nazi style. Then either have all Christians recant or fine them or lock them up or shoot them.

Come on Lefties, you know you want it.
If you're against gay sex then don't have sex with the same gender. Personally I'm against stupid and ugly people having sex, because at least gay people won't be having any children, stupid people will. Fat and ugly also.

Wow, we learned a lot about you in a single post.

I actually know a PHD who's parents are stupid, fat and ugly. She is not stupid, fat, nor ugly by any stretch of the imagination, and wouldn't be around saving live's had her parents been gay.
 
Here is the deal Left wingers and/or atheists, who are one in the same. This is what the whole Christian baker not wanting to bake a gay marriage cake, boils down to.

IF the baker refused to serve gays, he would be refusing to serve them because he did not like them. I believe this would be a violation of the laws we currently have forcing establishments to serve those whom they may not like because of skin color, etc. However, if the baker offered to serve them in any capacity EXCEPT baking them a cake, it would be because the baker did not want to sin as he participated in a blasphemous religious ceremony.

Got it?

The cake isn't for the ceremony it's for the party afterwards and what if it was a civil ceremony with a JP and not a religious one?
 
Here is the deal Left wingers and/or atheists, who are one in the same. This is what the whole Christian baker not wanting to bake a gay marriage cake, boils down to.

IF the baker refused to serve gays, he would be refusing to serve them because he did not like them. I believe this would be a violation of the laws we currently have forcing establishments to serve those whom they may not like because of skin color, etc. However, if the baker offered to serve them in any capacity EXCEPT baking them a cake, it would be because the baker did not want to sin as he participated in a blasphemous religious ceremony.

Got it?
So, naturally

Hotels can refuse gay honeymoons
Restaurants can refuse a reception......gays can eat here, they just can’t celebrate a wedding
Photographers, florists, limo companies, jewelers can all refuse service

A backdoor way to harass gays

Service could be declined for a gay wedding regarding all these things. Again, the issue is participating in a ceremony that the religious person sees as an abomination to God.

As for being a "good" business man, however, declining service means declining money. They also run the risk of people boycotting them. Therefore, to hold to ones religious beliefs would mean taking a huge risk.

It's always a risk. I know an insurance salesman who was floundering. He started posting pro right, anti abortion stuff on his facebook page. Lost some business, but made tons more from those that agreed with him. I suspect the Baker would be the same.
So this baker makes homophobic cakes. Good to know.

Don't give your money to him then. I suspect however, he will do a booming business.
 
So, naturally

Hotels can refuse gay honeymoons
Restaurants can refuse a reception......gays can eat here, they just can’t celebrate a wedding
Photographers, florists, limo companies, jewelers can all refuse service

A backdoor way to harass gays

Not at all. For example, before one hires an artist, both client and artist must agree to the project. Would you be in favor of insisting an artist depict a nude woman if it was against his conscience to do so? Especially when the artist offered to depict a woman clothed instead?
A real artist wouldn't object to painting a nude woman.

Who are you to define a real artist? That is best left up to the artist. I know a few that would never consider doing such.
Real artists have never been hung up on nudity.
 
The Left should decide once and for all, is it legal to oppose gay sex? For example, should churches be allowed to refuse a gay wedding?

If not, you may as well round up all the Bibles and have a big wiener roast and burn them, Nazi style. Then either have all Christians recant or fine them or lock them up or shoot them.

Come on Lefties, you know you want it.
If you're against gay sex then don't have sex with the same gender. Personally I'm against stupid and ugly people having sex, because at least gay people won't be having any children, stupid people will. Fat and ugly also.

We should not even be having this conversation. Who cares what you or I think?

So don't ask anyone to condone it, like the baker in question.
 
The Left should decide once and for all, is it legal to oppose gay sex? For example, should churches be allowed to refuse a gay wedding?

If not, you may as well round up all the Bibles and have a big wiener roast and burn them, Nazi style. Then either have all Christians recant or fine them or lock them up or shoot them.

Come on Lefties, you know you want it.
If you're against gay sex then don't have sex with the same gender. Personally I'm against stupid and ugly people having sex, because at least gay people won't be having any children, stupid people will. Fat and ugly also.

Wow, we learned a lot about you in a single post.

I actually know a PHD who's parents are stupid, fat and ugly. She is not stupid, fat, nor ugly by any stretch of the imagination, and wouldn't be around saving live's had her parents been gay.
So how's your kid doing?
 
Here is the deal Left wingers and/or atheists, who are one in the same. This is what the whole Christian baker not wanting to bake a gay marriage cake, boils down to.

IF the baker refused to serve gays, he would be refusing to serve them because he did not like them. I believe this would be a violation of the laws we currently have forcing establishments to serve those whom they may not like because of skin color, etc. However, if the baker offered to serve them in any capacity EXCEPT baking them a cake, it would be because the baker did not want to sin as he participated in a blasphemous religious ceremony.

Got it?
So the cake was gay?
 
So, naturally

Hotels can refuse gay honeymoons
Restaurants can refuse a reception......gays can eat here, they just can’t celebrate a wedding
Photographers, florists, limo companies, jewelers can all refuse service

A backdoor way to harass gays

Not at all. For example, before one hires an artist, both client and artist must agree to the project. Would you be in favor of insisting an artist depict a nude woman if it was against his conscience to do so? Especially when the artist offered to depict a woman clothed instead?
A real artist wouldn't object to painting a nude woman.

Who are you to define a real artist? That is best left up to the artist. I know a few that would never consider doing such.
I do it all the time when I critique other people's artesian brickwork..
 
The Left should decide once and for all, is it legal to oppose gay sex? For example, should churches be allowed to refuse a gay wedding?

If not, you may as well round up all the Bibles and have a big wiener roast and burn them, Nazi style. Then either have all Christians recant or fine them or lock them up or shoot them.

Come on Lefties, you know you want it.
If you're against gay sex then don't have sex with the same gender. Personally I'm against stupid and ugly people having sex, because at least gay people won't be having any children, stupid people will. Fat and ugly also.

We should not even be having this conversation. Who cares what you or I think?

So don't ask anyone to condone it, like the baker in question.
So you're ok with any business saying "I don't serve blacks" or "I don't serve ugly people" or pretty much anything they want?
 
The Left should decide once and for all, is it legal to oppose gay sex? For example, should churches be allowed to refuse a gay wedding?

If not, you may as well round up all the Bibles and have a big wiener roast and burn them, Nazi style. Then either have all Christians recant or fine them or lock them up or shoot them.

Come on Lefties, you know you want it.
If you're against gay sex then don't have sex with the same gender. Personally I'm against stupid and ugly people having sex, because at least gay people won't be having any children, stupid people will. Fat and ugly also.

We should not even be having this conversation. Who cares what you or I think?

So don't ask anyone to condone it, like the baker in question.
So you're ok with any business saying "I don't serve blacks" or "I don't serve ugly people" or pretty much anything they want?
I am.
PA laws are bullshit and discriminatory.
 
So, naturally

Hotels can refuse gay honeymoons
Restaurants can refuse a reception......gays can eat here, they just can’t celebrate a wedding
Photographers, florists, limo companies, jewelers can all refuse service

A backdoor way to harass gays

Not at all. For example, before one hires an artist, both client and artist must agree to the project. Would you be in favor of insisting an artist depict a nude woman if it was against his conscience to do so? Especially when the artist offered to depict a woman clothed instead?
A real artist wouldn't object to painting a nude woman.

Who are you to define a real artist? That is best left up to the artist. I know a few that would never consider doing such.
Real artists have never been hung up on nudity.

Oh, I see, you speak for them all, right?
 
The Left should decide once and for all, is it legal to oppose gay sex? For example, should churches be allowed to refuse a gay wedding?

If not, you may as well round up all the Bibles and have a big wiener roast and burn them, Nazi style. Then either have all Christians recant or fine them or lock them up or shoot them.

Come on Lefties, you know you want it.
If you're against gay sex then don't have sex with the same gender. Personally I'm against stupid and ugly people having sex, because at least gay people won't be having any children, stupid people will. Fat and ugly also.

We should not even be having this conversation. Who cares what you or I think?

So don't ask anyone to condone it, like the baker in question.
So you're ok with any business saying "I don't serve blacks" or "I don't serve ugly people" or pretty much anything they want?

Blacks can't help being black. ugly people can't help being ugly, your attitude proves that
 
The Left should decide once and for all, is it legal to oppose gay sex? For example, should churches be allowed to refuse a gay wedding?

If not, you may as well round up all the Bibles and have a big wiener roast and burn them, Nazi style. Then either have all Christians recant or fine them or lock them up or shoot them.

Come on Lefties, you know you want it.
If you're against gay sex then don't have sex with the same gender. Personally I'm against stupid and ugly people having sex, because at least gay people won't be having any children, stupid people will. Fat and ugly also.

Wow, we learned a lot about you in a single post.

I actually know a PHD who's parents are stupid, fat and ugly. She is not stupid, fat, nor ugly by any stretch of the imagination, and wouldn't be around saving live's had her parents been gay.
So how's your kid doing?

Mine are all doing well, especially since THEY WERE ACTUALLY BORN.

Can't say the same for any kid that came from the coupling of two same sex homosexuals though cuz they don't exist.
 
So, naturally

Hotels can refuse gay honeymoons
Restaurants can refuse a reception......gays can eat here, they just can’t celebrate a wedding
Photographers, florists, limo companies, jewelers can all refuse service

A backdoor way to harass gays

Not at all. For example, before one hires an artist, both client and artist must agree to the project. Would you be in favor of insisting an artist depict a nude woman if it was against his conscience to do so? Especially when the artist offered to depict a woman clothed instead?
A real artist wouldn't object to painting a nude woman.

Who are you to define a real artist? That is best left up to the artist. I know a few that would never consider doing such.
I do it all the time when I critique other people's artesian brickwork..

You learn a lot i suspect
 
So, naturally

Hotels can refuse gay honeymoons
Restaurants can refuse a reception......gays can eat here, they just can’t celebrate a wedding
Photographers, florists, limo companies, jewelers can all refuse service

A backdoor way to harass gays

Not at all. For example, before one hires an artist, both client and artist must agree to the project. Would you be in favor of insisting an artist depict a nude woman if it was against his conscience to do so? Especially when the artist offered to depict a woman clothed instead?
A real artist wouldn't object to painting a nude woman.

Who are you to define a real artist? That is best left up to the artist. I know a few that would never consider doing such.
Real artists have never been hung up on nudity.

Oh, I see, you speak for them all, right?
Look throughout history, the great artists had no problem with nudity.
 
The Left should decide once and for all, is it legal to oppose gay sex? For example, should churches be allowed to refuse a gay wedding?

If not, you may as well round up all the Bibles and have a big wiener roast and burn them, Nazi style. Then either have all Christians recant or fine them or lock them up or shoot them.

Come on Lefties, you know you want it.
If you're against gay sex then don't have sex with the same gender. Personally I'm against stupid and ugly people having sex, because at least gay people won't be having any children, stupid people will. Fat and ugly also.

Wow, we learned a lot about you in a single post.

I actually know a PHD who's parents are stupid, fat and ugly. She is not stupid, fat, nor ugly by any stretch of the imagination, and wouldn't be around saving live's had her parents been gay.
So how's your kid doing?

Mine are all doing well, especially since THEY WERE ACTUALLY BORN.

Can't say the same for any kid that came from the coupling of two same sex homosexuals though cuz they don't exist.
Actually gays can have children and do have children. Now you know.
 
Here is the deal Left wingers and/or atheists, who are one in the same. This is what the whole Christian baker not wanting to bake a gay marriage cake, boils down to.

IF the baker refused to serve gays, he would be refusing to serve them because he did not like them. I believe this would be a violation of the laws we currently have forcing establishments to serve those whom they may not like because of skin color, etc. However, if the baker offered to serve them in any capacity EXCEPT baking them a cake, it would be because the baker did not want to sin as he participated in a blasphemous religious ceremony.

Got it?
You missed the point of the SCOTUS decision.
 
Not at all. For example, before one hires an artist, both client and artist must agree to the project. Would you be in favor of insisting an artist depict a nude woman if it was against his conscience to do so? Especially when the artist offered to depict a woman clothed instead?
A real artist wouldn't object to painting a nude woman.

Who are you to define a real artist? That is best left up to the artist. I know a few that would never consider doing such.
Real artists have never been hung up on nudity.

Oh, I see, you speak for them all, right?
Look throughout history, the great artists had no problem with nudity.

And some never painted a single one.
 
The Left should decide once and for all, is it legal to oppose gay sex? For example, should churches be allowed to refuse a gay wedding?

If not, you may as well round up all the Bibles and have a big wiener roast and burn them, Nazi style. Then either have all Christians recant or fine them or lock them up or shoot them.

Come on Lefties, you know you want it.
If you're against gay sex then don't have sex with the same gender. Personally I'm against stupid and ugly people having sex, because at least gay people won't be having any children, stupid people will. Fat and ugly also.

Wow, we learned a lot about you in a single post.

I actually know a PHD who's parents are stupid, fat and ugly. She is not stupid, fat, nor ugly by any stretch of the imagination, and wouldn't be around saving live's had her parents been gay.
So how's your kid doing?

Mine are all doing well, especially since THEY WERE ACTUALLY BORN.

Can't say the same for any kid that came from the coupling of two same sex homosexuals though cuz they don't exist.
Actually gays can have children and do have children. Now you know.

Not same sex couples without outside help. Now you know.

Guess what, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT OF OPPOSITE SEX COUPLING!

Every Doctor, every Scientist, Every Teacher, EVERYONE has their life's to thank because of Men + Women.

Not a single child was ever conceived without a male component and a female component.

Any way you slice that, it's a winner!
 

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