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Not very well. Are you really holding up the current state of things as "good government"?They’re governing right now.
Not nearly this bad. Both parties, now, literally can't accept defeat. They so successfully demonized each other that the losing party goes into full on denial.Isn’t that the way it has always been?
I don't buy that. We've bought into the "elections have consequences" horseshit, and each party thinks that a win means it's time to take the other to the woodshed. It's all about retribution and pay back in the fucking "culture war".I have no more control over or obligation to those who may dislike me than the Dems do.
Haters gonna hate.
We've bought into the "elections have consequences" horseshit, and each party thinks that a win means it's time to take the other to the woodshed. It's all about retribution and pay back in the fucking "culture war".
^^^ And another one who must be god-like, knowing everything that Trump has been doing over the last few years.It is trying to charge Trump with bogus claims that is criminal.
That includes the 2 bogus impeachments.
www.wsj.com
The Founders designed a constitutional system to prevent demagogues from sowing confusion and mob violence in precisely this way. The vast extent of the country, Madison said, would make it hard for local factions to coordinate any kind of mass mobilization. The horizontal separation of powers among the three branches of government would ensure that the House impeached and the Senate convicted corrupt presidents. The vertical division of powers between the states and the federal government would ensure that local officials ensured election integrity.
And norms about the peaceful transfer of power, strengthened by George Washington’s towering example of voluntarily stepping down from office after two terms, would ensure that no elected president could convert himself, like Caesar, into an unelected dictator. “The idea of introducing a monarchy or aristocracy into this Country,” Hamilton wrote, “is one of those visionary things, that none but madmen could meditate,” as long as the American people resisted “convulsions and disorders in consequence of the acts of popular demagogues.”
www.wsj.com
The question of what Mr. Trump believed strikes me as beside the point. Based on long observation, he doesn’t “believe”; he’s not by nature a believer. His longtime method of operation is to deploy concepts and approaches strategically to see what works. Put another way, he makes something up, sticks with it if it flies, drops it if it doesn’t, and goes on to “believe” something else.
www.theguardian.com
That simply isn’t true. False equivalencies aren’t evidence of anything except your poor judgement.Not very well. Are you really holding up the current state of things as "good government"?
Not nearly this bad. Both parties, now, literally can't accept defeat. They so successfully demonized each other that the losing party goes into full on denial.
I don't buy that. We've bought into the "elections have consequences" horseshit, and each party thinks that a win means it's time to take the other to the woodshed. It's all about retribution and pay back in the fucking "culture war".
I read your linked articles. The first one is exactly right. This Trump indictment needs to be litigated. And I really appreciated the reference to Aaron Burr, because make no mistake about it, he did commit treason but was not convicted. Regardless of the outcome, Burr fled to England with his tail between his legs and lived there in exile for four years. He only returned to New York City under an assumed name. Notice the article doesn't mention that, and perhaps it is precognizant, Trump is going to flee the country at some point, live in exile just like Burr, probably in Dubai.Essay | The Founders Anticipated the Threat of Trump
This week’s indictment of the former president outlines the sort of demagogic challenge to the rule of law that the Constitution’s architects most feared.
Okay, maybe Trump is not a democrat, but whatever it is Biden is - I know I don't want that. And yet, I have had to endure these last three years of rising costs and increased social disorderliness. So, how is it that the founders anticipate what we should do now?
How long and how much has it cost the taxpayers so far, and how much does Trump have to pay his lawyers who are probably going to split it with the prosecutors, who split that down to their crony bureaucrats, and so forth, and so on.
Trump is not stupid.
Opinion | Trump’s Jan. 6 Trial: We Owe It to History
Meanwhile, Hunter Biden’s legal problems become newly substantial to voters in the American middle.
Yeah, if only the founders could have anticipated what Rockefella was going to do to our society in 1880, maybe none of this would have happened. But they sure nailed it with Trump. This is ecstatic!
False equivalencies are in the eye of the beholder. I'm not saying both candidates are the same, nor that they are "equivalent". Just that they are both so far below my minimum standards for leading the powerful nation on earth, that it's just a sad, sad joke.That simply isn’t true. False equivalencies aren’t evidence of anything except your poor judgement.
No! False! The founders anticipated a person like Biden, a Usurper who was installed illegally thru a fraudulent election.Authoritarian demagogues like Trump are who The Founding Fathers had in mind when they designed our system. Thankfully, it held, even though MAGA and other craven Republicans tried to subvert it. They'll try another time in 2024 if/when they lose again.
The allegations in the indictment of Donald Trump for conspiring to overturn the election of 2020 represent the American Founders’ nightmare. A key concern of James Madison and Alexander Hamilton was that demagogues would incite mobs and factions to defy the rule of law, overturn free and fair elections and undermine American democracy. “The only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion,” Alexander Hamilton wrote in 1790. “When a man unprincipled in private life, desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper…is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity,” Hamilton warned, “he may ‘ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.’”The Founders designed a constitutional system to prevent demagogues from sowing confusion and mob violence in precisely this way. The vast extent of the country, Madison said, would make it hard for local factions to coordinate any kind of mass mobilization. The horizontal separation of powers among the three branches of government would ensure that the House impeached and the Senate convicted corrupt presidents. The vertical division of powers between the states and the federal government would ensure that local officials ensured election integrity.And norms about the peaceful transfer of power, strengthened by George Washington’s towering example of voluntarily stepping down from office after two terms, would ensure that no elected president could convert himself, like Caesar, into an unelected dictator. “The idea of introducing a monarchy or aristocracy into this Country,” Hamilton wrote, “is one of those visionary things, that none but madmen could meditate,” as long as the American people resisted “convulsions and disorders in consequence of the acts of popular demagogues.”According to the federal indictment issued this week, President Trump attempted to overturn the results of the 2020 election by conspiring to spread such “convulsions and disorders” through a series of knowing lies. The indictment alleges that soon after election day, Trump “pursued unlawful means of discounting legitimate votes and subverting the election results,” perpetuating three separate criminal conspiracies: to impede the collection and counting of the ballots, Congress’s certification of the results on Jan. 6, 2021, and the right to vote itself.The indictment alleges that all three conspiracies involved a concerted effort by Trump and his co-conspirators to subvert the election results using “knowingly false claims of election fraud.” In particular, Trump allegedly “organized fraudulent slates of electors in seven targeted states”; tried to use “the power and authority of the Justice Department to conduct sham election crime investigations”; tried to enlist Vice President Mike Pence “to fraudulently alter the election results”; and, as violence broke out on Jan. 6, redoubled his efforts to “convince Members of Congress to further delay the certification.”
Essay | The Founders Anticipated the Threat of Trump
This week’s indictment of the former president outlines the sort of demagogic challenge to the rule of law that the Constitution’s architects most feared.
The founders never envisioned a world where the descendents of freed slaves would run amok and loot 7 Eleven stores at will and not be punished for it.
The Founding Fathers never saw anything like this as a possibility. If they had, there would be provisions in the Constitution for reinstating the last fairly elected president.No! False! The founders anticipated a person like Biden, a Usurper who was installed illegally thru a fraudulent election.
Exactly.The founders never envisioned a world where the descendents of freed slaves would run amok and loot 7 Eleven stores at will and not be punished for it.
Maybe you can explain to black people that white people have not figured out how to reliably organize just governments and corporate organizations, yet.Or that people such as Lemmi would be allowed to publish in public.
Expect to hear more from us. We plan to leave this country better than we found it. This is our home.
I just find it odd you would be so quick to blurt out "the founders anticipated the progressives and why they enshrined the 2nd amendment" and then when asked to clarify what you mean you shy away in the other direction as if you're ashamed or embarrassed.
You can't explain that?
And to you wonder why the normal people consider you to be a hopelessly brainwashed low-IQ cultist.
Actually, people do think that. Prof.Lunaphile, Skye, and others are your ilk.No one thinks that.
