If you are going to deflect this badly -- just don't comment at all...and I assume the reason why there is such overwhelming support by black voters for the Democrat party is because of Democrat racism??LOLI didn't say exit polls are meaningless -- I said that one question is meaningless. Saying you'd vote for someone who's not running doesn't actually prove Republicans would have elected a black.Exit polls are meaningless when the topic is someone who's not running.LOLOLOL"YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too"."
So? Are you so blind you can't see both sides attack each other in the manner you only cry about the left?
"You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?"
You said he had no passion for politics. That's your idea of the most likely black Republican to get elected? Ever???
Do you even have an idea of how stupid you sound?
Dude. Your defense is ignorance. You've admitted to being ignorant on the subject.
Go educate yourself. It will only take a few minutes.
Colin Powell - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
"Powell's experience in military matters made him a very popular figure with both American political parties. Many Democrats admired his moderate stance on military matters, while many Republicans saw him as a great asset associated with the successes of past Republican administrations. Put forth as a potential Democratic Vice Presidential nominee in the 1992 U.S. presidential election[43] or even potentially replacing Vice President Dan Quayle as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee,[44] Powell eventually declared himself a Republican and began to campaign for Republican candidates in 1995.[45][46] He was touted as a possible opponent of Bill Clinton in the 1996 U.S. presidential election, possibly capitalizing on a split conservative vote in Iowa[47] and even leading New Hampshire polls for the GOP nomination,[48] but Powell declined, citing a lack of passion for politics.[49] Powell defeated Clinton 50–38 in a hypothetical match-up proposed to voters in the exit polls conducted on Election Day.[50] Despite not standing in the race, Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.[51] "
Moron, you're literally claiming your best shot at electing a Black Republican is someone who never ran for office nor wanted to.
Exit polls showed him winning handily over Bill Clinton, as a Republican with the Republican voters very strongly supporting him.
That right there refutes the point of the op, ie that republicans are racist that is why no black republican presidents.
Still -- you claim your best shot to get a black Republican as president is someone who didn't want the job.
Exit polls are the Gold Standard of polls. They ask the person who they would vote for minutes after the point of voting, and they only get data from voters.
The high numbers that Powell got, showed that Republicans were ready for a black President back in 1996, and considering the strength of the results, well before that.
That alone refutes the point of the op, that the lack of black Republican Presidents is caused by "racism".
When an absolute majority of voters, primary made of republicans say they would have voted for a black republican, it does.
And that refutes the point of the op.
Saying you will vote for someone who's not running means nothing since that still doesn't get a black Republican elected. You remain an abject imbecile.
It demonstrates that the Republican Party has been ready for a Black President, decades ago.
That is relevant to the discussion, when so many lefties like to pretend to believe that the reason for the lack of black republicans or black republican presidents, is gop racism.
Hard data shows that that is a race baiting lie, made by vile liars.
You know, there is also overwhelming support for the Democrat party on behalf of Jewish voters too...is that because of Democrat Anti-Semitism??
If your friend told you that there was a party happening tonight and there were gonna be a bunch of ladies there -- then when you get there -- its only one lady there and 400 guys -- would that still be considered a party with a bunch of ladies there?
Nope. NOt at all. But it is not because the guys are fags who don't like the ladies.
Have you never been at a party, where there was as dearth of women, and it was not because the men there disliked women?
Why are you pretending to be stupid about this?
If you are going to deflect this badly -- just don't comment at all...and I assume the reason why there is such overwhelming support by black voters for the Democrat party is because of Democrat racism??LOLI didn't say exit polls are meaningless -- I said that one question is meaningless. Saying you'd vote for someone who's not running doesn't actually prove Republicans would have elected a black.Exit polls are meaningless when the topic is someone who's not running.LOLOLOL"YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too"."
So? Are you so blind you can't see both sides attack each other in the manner you only cry about the left?
"You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?"
You said he had no passion for politics. That's your idea of the most likely black Republican to get elected? Ever???
Do you even have an idea of how stupid you sound?
Dude. Your defense is ignorance. You've admitted to being ignorant on the subject.
Go educate yourself. It will only take a few minutes.
Colin Powell - Wikipedia
"Powell's experience in military matters made him a very popular figure with both American political parties. Many Democrats admired his moderate stance on military matters, while many Republicans saw him as a great asset associated with the successes of past Republican administrations. Put forth as a potential Democratic Vice Presidential nominee in the 1992 U.S. presidential election[43] or even potentially replacing Vice President Dan Quayle as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee,[44] Powell eventually declared himself a Republican and began to campaign for Republican candidates in 1995.[45][46] He was touted as a possible opponent of Bill Clinton in the 1996 U.S. presidential election, possibly capitalizing on a split conservative vote in Iowa[47] and even leading New Hampshire polls for the GOP nomination,[48] but Powell declined, citing a lack of passion for politics.[49] Powell defeated Clinton 50–38 in a hypothetical match-up proposed to voters in the exit polls conducted on Election Day.[50] Despite not standing in the race, Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.[51] "
Moron, you're literally claiming your best shot at electing a Black Republican is someone who never ran for office nor wanted to.
Exit polls showed him winning handily over Bill Clinton, as a Republican with the Republican voters very strongly supporting him.
That right there refutes the point of the op, ie that republicans are racist that is why no black republican presidents.
Still -- you claim your best shot to get a black Republican as president is someone who didn't want the job.
Exit polls are the Gold Standard of polls. They ask the person who they would vote for minutes after the point of voting, and they only get data from voters.
The high numbers that Powell got, showed that Republicans were ready for a black President back in 1996, and considering the strength of the results, well before that.
That alone refutes the point of the op, that the lack of black Republican Presidents is caused by "racism".
When an absolute majority of voters, primary made of republicans say they would have voted for a black republican, it does.
And that refutes the point of the op.
Saying you will vote for someone who's not running means nothing since that still doesn't get a black Republican elected. You remain an abject imbecile.
It demonstrates that the Republican Party has been ready for a Black President, decades ago.
That is relevant to the discussion, when so many lefties like to pretend to believe that the reason for the lack of black republicans or black republican presidents, is gop racism.
Hard data shows that that is a race baiting lie, made by vile liars.
You know, there is also overwhelming support for the Democrat party on behalf of Jewish voters too...is that because of Democrat Anti-Semitism??
If your friend told you that there was a party happening tonight and there were gonna be a bunch of ladies there -- then when you get there -- its only one lady there and 400 guys -- would that still be considered a party with a bunch of ladies there?
Nope. NOt at all. But it is not because the guys are fags who don't like the ladies.
Have you never been at a party, where there was as dearth of women, and it was not because the men there disliked women?
Why are you pretending to be stupid about this?
You purposely avoided 99% of what I said just to focus on the fact, you attended parties with no ladies there....most conservatives have...
But that is for your therapist to work thru with you.....
If you are going to deflect this badly -- just don't comment at all...and I assume the reason why there is such overwhelming support by black voters for the Democrat party is because of Democrat racism??LOLI didn't say exit polls are meaningless -- I said that one question is meaningless. Saying you'd vote for someone who's not running doesn't actually prove Republicans would have elected a black.Exit polls are meaningless when the topic is someone who's not running.LOLOLOL"YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too"."
So? Are you so blind you can't see both sides attack each other in the manner you only cry about the left?
"You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?"
You said he had no passion for politics. That's your idea of the most likely black Republican to get elected? Ever???
Do you even have an idea of how stupid you sound?
Dude. Your defense is ignorance. You've admitted to being ignorant on the subject.
Go educate yourself. It will only take a few minutes.
Colin Powell - Wikipedia
"Powell's experience in military matters made him a very popular figure with both American political parties. Many Democrats admired his moderate stance on military matters, while many Republicans saw him as a great asset associated with the successes of past Republican administrations. Put forth as a potential Democratic Vice Presidential nominee in the 1992 U.S. presidential election[43] or even potentially replacing Vice President Dan Quayle as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee,[44] Powell eventually declared himself a Republican and began to campaign for Republican candidates in 1995.[45][46] He was touted as a possible opponent of Bill Clinton in the 1996 U.S. presidential election, possibly capitalizing on a split conservative vote in Iowa[47] and even leading New Hampshire polls for the GOP nomination,[48] but Powell declined, citing a lack of passion for politics.[49] Powell defeated Clinton 50–38 in a hypothetical match-up proposed to voters in the exit polls conducted on Election Day.[50] Despite not standing in the race, Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.[51] "
Moron, you're literally claiming your best shot at electing a Black Republican is someone who never ran for office nor wanted to.
Exit polls showed him winning handily over Bill Clinton, as a Republican with the Republican voters very strongly supporting him.
That right there refutes the point of the op, ie that republicans are racist that is why no black republican presidents.
Still -- you claim your best shot to get a black Republican as president is someone who didn't want the job.
Exit polls are the Gold Standard of polls. They ask the person who they would vote for minutes after the point of voting, and they only get data from voters.
The high numbers that Powell got, showed that Republicans were ready for a black President back in 1996, and considering the strength of the results, well before that.
That alone refutes the point of the op, that the lack of black Republican Presidents is caused by "racism".
When an absolute majority of voters, primary made of republicans say they would have voted for a black republican, it does.
And that refutes the point of the op.
Saying you will vote for someone who's not running means nothing since that still doesn't get a black Republican elected. You remain an abject imbecile.
It demonstrates that the Republican Party has been ready for a Black President, decades ago.
That is relevant to the discussion, when so many lefties like to pretend to believe that the reason for the lack of black republicans or black republican presidents, is gop racism.
Hard data shows that that is a race baiting lie, made by vile liars.
You know, there is also overwhelming support for the Democrat party on behalf of Jewish voters too...is that because of Democrat Anti-Semitism??
If your friend told you that there was a party happening tonight and there were gonna be a bunch of ladies there -- then when you get there -- its only one lady there and 400 guys -- would that still be considered a party with a bunch of ladies there?
Nope. NOt at all. But it is not because the guys are fags who don't like the ladies.
Have you never been at a party, where there was as dearth of women, and it was not because the men there disliked women?
Why are you pretending to be stupid about this?
You purposely avoided 99% of what I said just to focus on the fact, you attended parties with no ladies there....most conservatives have...
But that is for your therapist to work thru with you.....
You took my point, that the lack of black republicans is not because of republican racism, and turned it into a strawman.
ie that my point somehow implied that the dems were. Which does not follow.
The republican party not having anti-black racism, in no way implies that the dems DO.
Watch this. I don't believe in bigfoot.
Does that statement read to you, like I am accusing you of believing in bigfoot?
My point stands. THere are reasons that we have not had a black republican president, yet. GOP racism is not one of those reasons.
AS proved by the 96 exit polls.
If you are going to deflect this badly -- just don't comment at all...and I assume the reason why there is such overwhelming support by black voters for the Democrat party is because of Democrat racism??LOLI didn't say exit polls are meaningless -- I said that one question is meaningless. Saying you'd vote for someone who's not running doesn't actually prove Republicans would have elected a black.Exit polls are meaningless when the topic is someone who's not running.LOLOLOL"YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too"."
So? Are you so blind you can't see both sides attack each other in the manner you only cry about the left?
"You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?"
You said he had no passion for politics. That's your idea of the most likely black Republican to get elected? Ever???
Do you even have an idea of how stupid you sound?
Dude. Your defense is ignorance. You've admitted to being ignorant on the subject.
Go educate yourself. It will only take a few minutes.
Colin Powell - Wikipedia
"Powell's experience in military matters made him a very popular figure with both American political parties. Many Democrats admired his moderate stance on military matters, while many Republicans saw him as a great asset associated with the successes of past Republican administrations. Put forth as a potential Democratic Vice Presidential nominee in the 1992 U.S. presidential election[43] or even potentially replacing Vice President Dan Quayle as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee,[44] Powell eventually declared himself a Republican and began to campaign for Republican candidates in 1995.[45][46] He was touted as a possible opponent of Bill Clinton in the 1996 U.S. presidential election, possibly capitalizing on a split conservative vote in Iowa[47] and even leading New Hampshire polls for the GOP nomination,[48] but Powell declined, citing a lack of passion for politics.[49] Powell defeated Clinton 50–38 in a hypothetical match-up proposed to voters in the exit polls conducted on Election Day.[50] Despite not standing in the race, Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.[51] "
Moron, you're literally claiming your best shot at electing a Black Republican is someone who never ran for office nor wanted to.
Exit polls showed him winning handily over Bill Clinton, as a Republican with the Republican voters very strongly supporting him.
That right there refutes the point of the op, ie that republicans are racist that is why no black republican presidents.
Still -- you claim your best shot to get a black Republican as president is someone who didn't want the job.
Exit polls are the Gold Standard of polls. They ask the person who they would vote for minutes after the point of voting, and they only get data from voters.
The high numbers that Powell got, showed that Republicans were ready for a black President back in 1996, and considering the strength of the results, well before that.
That alone refutes the point of the op, that the lack of black Republican Presidents is caused by "racism".
When an absolute majority of voters, primary made of republicans say they would have voted for a black republican, it does.
And that refutes the point of the op.
Saying you will vote for someone who's not running means nothing since that still doesn't get a black Republican elected. You remain an abject imbecile.
It demonstrates that the Republican Party has been ready for a Black President, decades ago.
That is relevant to the discussion, when so many lefties like to pretend to believe that the reason for the lack of black republicans or black republican presidents, is gop racism.
Hard data shows that that is a race baiting lie, made by vile liars.
You know, there is also overwhelming support for the Democrat party on behalf of Jewish voters too...is that because of Democrat Anti-Semitism??
If your friend told you that there was a party happening tonight and there were gonna be a bunch of ladies there -- then when you get there -- its only one lady there and 400 guys -- would that still be considered a party with a bunch of ladies there?
Nope. NOt at all. But it is not because the guys are fags who don't like the ladies.
Have you never been at a party, where there was as dearth of women, and it was not because the men there disliked women?
Why are you pretending to be stupid about this?
You purposely avoided 99% of what I said just to focus on the fact, you attended parties with no ladies there....most conservatives have...
But that is for your therapist to work thru with you.....
You took my point, that the lack of black republicans is not because of republican racism, and turned it into a strawman.
ie that my point somehow implied that the dems were. Which does not follow.
The republican party not having anti-black racism, in no way implies that the dems DO.
Watch this. I don't believe in bigfoot.
Does that statement read to you, like I am accusing you of believing in bigfoot?
My point stands. THere are reasons that we have not had a black republican president, yet. GOP racism is not one of those reasons.
AS proved by the 96 exit polls.
Let's cut to the chase.....
The reason there are so few black people voting republican, is the same reason why there are so few black people elected as republicans, and that its the same reason so many of you folks here have had a difficult time answering my question...
The reason is in large part due to the historical racism of conservatives....both in rhetoric and most importantly in POLICY....And those conservatives of course, now happens to be predominantly affiliated with the republican party...
This is why 2 republican party chairmen had to issue apologies and offer mea culpas to try to own up to this reality....and when they did, they were attacked and ran out of their positions.....but I will let a black republican explain this to you himself...
“For the last 40-plus years we had a 'Southern Strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South" -- The genteel phrase dates back to Nixon aide Kevin Phillips, who explained to The New York Times in 1970: “From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that.”
Michael Steele on Why African-Americans Should Vote Republican: âYou Really Don't Have a Reason to, to Be Honestâ
From Wonkette.On Tuesday, No. 1 successful adult Michael Steele, current chairman of the Republican National Committee, described the G.O.P.’s political offensive thusly: “For the last 40-plus years we had a 'Southern Strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male...www.vanityfair.com
Remember, this guy was attacked for issuing an apology for use of the "Southern Strategy" -- he lost his position as GOP chairman even tho he helped republicans win more seats since 1928 and broke fund raising records.....and he still remains a republican because to him, the current racism of his party isn't a deal breaker for him....for many other black voters, it is a deal breaker...
LOLOLLOLThe part where you delude yourself into believing a black man who never ran for president has a chance at being the first black Republican president.
I reject your pretense of you being too stupid to under stand the concept of linear time.
YOu are stupid, I will grant you that, but you are not so fucking profoundly retarded that you are too stupid to understand the concept that he had a very strong chance, at one time in the past.
That is my point. YOu are welcome to disagree with it, and explain why you disagree with it.
YOu are not welcome to pretend to be to stupid to read it and understand it. THAT IS NOT CREDIBLE. STOP FUCKING AROUND.
Dumbfuck, that's not what this thread asked. It didn't ask, which black wasn't nominated by the Republican party -- it asked who will be the first. Powell never ran, so Powell will not be the first. We're still waiting for the first. Maybe that will come in about another hundred years are so. In the meantime, buzz your nurse to come change your drool cup.
Trump is likely to be re-elected in 2020. THat's four more years right there. And Pence will almost certainly be the next candidate, so that's another four years after THAT.
And if he wins, it could be TWELVE years, until the next opening.
AND, actually, 16, because he would run for re-election, and likely lose.
It is pretty silly to try to guess that far ahead.
BUt it is worth noting, that the REASON FOR THE DELAY, IS NOT ONE OF PRINCIPLE, BUT JUST THE WAY IT WORKED OUT, AS DEMONSTRATED BY THE 96 EXIT POLLS.
LOLOLLOLThe part where you delude yourself into believing a black man who never ran for president has a chance at being the first black Republican president.
I reject your pretense of you being too stupid to under stand the concept of linear time.
YOu are stupid, I will grant you that, but you are not so fucking profoundly retarded that you are too stupid to understand the concept that he had a very strong chance, at one time in the past.
That is my point. YOu are welcome to disagree with it, and explain why you disagree with it.
YOu are not welcome to pretend to be to stupid to read it and understand it. THAT IS NOT CREDIBLE. STOP FUCKING AROUND.
Dumbfuck, that's not what this thread asked. It didn't ask, which black wasn't nominated by the Republican party -- it asked who will be the first. Powell never ran, so Powell will not be the first. We're still waiting for the first. Maybe that will come in about another hundred years are so. In the meantime, buzz your nurse to come change your drool cup.
Trump is likely to be re-elected in 2020. THat's four more years right there. And Pence will almost certainly be the next candidate, so that's another four years after THAT.
And if he wins, it could be TWELVE years, until the next opening.
AND, actually, 16, because he would run for re-election, and likely lose.
It is pretty silly to try to guess that far ahead.
BUt it is worth noting, that the REASON FOR THE DELAY, IS NOT ONE OF PRINCIPLE, BUT JUST THE WAY IT WORKED OUT, AS DEMONSTRATED BY THE 96 EXIT POLLS.
You're literally making up this shit as you go along. It's not a given Impeached Trump will win this year. Even if he does, who knows if Pence will run in 2024. Going back to Carter, 3 VP's ran in the ensuing election and 3 did not. And even if Pence ran, you don't know that he would win. You also don't know who else might run against him, if that were to happen.
So now you're just inventing silly excuses for why the GOP has never nominated a black candidate.
How sad.
THAK YOU!If you are going to deflect this badly -- just don't comment at all...and I assume the reason why there is such overwhelming support by black voters for the Democrat party is because of Democrat racism??LOLI didn't say exit polls are meaningless -- I said that one question is meaningless. Saying you'd vote for someone who's not running doesn't actually prove Republicans would have elected a black.Exit polls are meaningless when the topic is someone who's not running.LOLOLOL"YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too"."
So? Are you so blind you can't see both sides attack each other in the manner you only cry about the left?
"You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?"
You said he had no passion for politics. That's your idea of the most likely black Republican to get elected? Ever???
Do you even have an idea of how stupid you sound?
Dude. Your defense is ignorance. You've admitted to being ignorant on the subject.
Go educate yourself. It will only take a few minutes.
Colin Powell - Wikipedia
"Powell's experience in military matters made him a very popular figure with both American political parties. Many Democrats admired his moderate stance on military matters, while many Republicans saw him as a great asset associated with the successes of past Republican administrations. Put forth as a potential Democratic Vice Presidential nominee in the 1992 U.S. presidential election[43] or even potentially replacing Vice President Dan Quayle as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee,[44] Powell eventually declared himself a Republican and began to campaign for Republican candidates in 1995.[45][46] He was touted as a possible opponent of Bill Clinton in the 1996 U.S. presidential election, possibly capitalizing on a split conservative vote in Iowa[47] and even leading New Hampshire polls for the GOP nomination,[48] but Powell declined, citing a lack of passion for politics.[49] Powell defeated Clinton 50–38 in a hypothetical match-up proposed to voters in the exit polls conducted on Election Day.[50] Despite not standing in the race, Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.[51] "
Moron, you're literally claiming your best shot at electing a Black Republican is someone who never ran for office nor wanted to.
Exit polls showed him winning handily over Bill Clinton, as a Republican with the Republican voters very strongly supporting him.
That right there refutes the point of the op, ie that republicans are racist that is why no black republican presidents.
Still -- you claim your best shot to get a black Republican as president is someone who didn't want the job.
Exit polls are the Gold Standard of polls. They ask the person who they would vote for minutes after the point of voting, and they only get data from voters.
The high numbers that Powell got, showed that Republicans were ready for a black President back in 1996, and considering the strength of the results, well before that.
That alone refutes the point of the op, that the lack of black Republican Presidents is caused by "racism".
When an absolute majority of voters, primary made of republicans say they would have voted for a black republican, it does.
And that refutes the point of the op.
Saying you will vote for someone who's not running means nothing since that still doesn't get a black Republican elected. You remain an abject imbecile.
It demonstrates that the Republican Party has been ready for a Black President, decades ago.
That is relevant to the discussion, when so many lefties like to pretend to believe that the reason for the lack of black republicans or black republican presidents, is gop racism.
Hard data shows that that is a race baiting lie, made by vile liars.
You know, there is also overwhelming support for the Democrat party on behalf of Jewish voters too...is that because of Democrat Anti-Semitism??
If your friend told you that there was a party happening tonight and there were gonna be a bunch of ladies there -- then when you get there -- its only one lady there and 400 guys -- would that still be considered a party with a bunch of ladies there?
Nope. NOt at all. But it is not because the guys are fags who don't like the ladies.
Have you never been at a party, where there was as dearth of women, and it was not because the men there disliked women?
Why are you pretending to be stupid about this?
You purposely avoided 99% of what I said just to focus on the fact, you attended parties with no ladies there....most conservatives have...
But that is for your therapist to work thru with you.....
You took my point, that the lack of black republicans is not because of republican racism, and turned it into a strawman.
ie that my point somehow implied that the dems were. Which does not follow.
The republican party not having anti-black racism, in no way implies that the dems DO.
Watch this. I don't believe in bigfoot.
Does that statement read to you, like I am accusing you of believing in bigfoot?
My point stands. THere are reasons that we have not had a black republican president, yet. GOP racism is not one of those reasons.
AS proved by the 96 exit polls.
Let's cut to the chase.....
The reason there are so few black people voting republican, is the same reason why there are so few black people elected as republicans, and that its the same reason so many of you folks here have had a difficult time answering my question...
The reason is in large part due to the historical racism of conservatives....both in rhetoric and most importantly in POLICY....And those conservatives of course, now happens to be predominantly affiliated with the republican party...
This is why 2 republican party chairmen had to issue apologies and offer mea culpas to try to own up to this reality....and when they did, they were attacked and ran out of their positions.....but I will let a black republican explain this to you himself...
“For the last 40-plus years we had a 'Southern Strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South" -- The genteel phrase dates back to Nixon aide Kevin Phillips, who explained to The New York Times in 1970: “From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that.”
Michael Steele on Why African-Americans Should Vote Republican: âYou Really Don't Have a Reason to, to Be Honestâ
From Wonkette.On Tuesday, No. 1 successful adult Michael Steele, current chairman of the Republican National Committee, described the G.O.P.’s political offensive thusly: “For the last 40-plus years we had a 'Southern Strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male...
Remember, this guy was attacked for issuing an apology for use of the "Southern Strategy" -- he lost his position as GOP chairman even tho he helped republicans win more seats since 1928 and broke fund raising records.....and he still remains a republican because to him, the current racism of his party isn't a deal breaker for him....for many other black voters, it is a deal breaker...
THAK YOU!If you are going to deflect this badly -- just don't comment at all...and I assume the reason why there is such overwhelming support by black voters for the Democrat party is because of Democrat racism??LOLI didn't say exit polls are meaningless -- I said that one question is meaningless. Saying you'd vote for someone who's not running doesn't actually prove Republicans would have elected a black.Exit polls are meaningless when the topic is someone who's not running.LOLOLOL"YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too"."
So? Are you so blind you can't see both sides attack each other in the manner you only cry about the left?
"You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?"
You said he had no passion for politics. That's your idea of the most likely black Republican to get elected? Ever???
Do you even have an idea of how stupid you sound?
Dude. Your defense is ignorance. You've admitted to being ignorant on the subject.
Go educate yourself. It will only take a few minutes.
Colin Powell - Wikipedia
"Powell's experience in military matters made him a very popular figure with both American political parties. Many Democrats admired his moderate stance on military matters, while many Republicans saw him as a great asset associated with the successes of past Republican administrations. Put forth as a potential Democratic Vice Presidential nominee in the 1992 U.S. presidential election[43] or even potentially replacing Vice President Dan Quayle as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee,[44] Powell eventually declared himself a Republican and began to campaign for Republican candidates in 1995.[45][46] He was touted as a possible opponent of Bill Clinton in the 1996 U.S. presidential election, possibly capitalizing on a split conservative vote in Iowa[47] and even leading New Hampshire polls for the GOP nomination,[48] but Powell declined, citing a lack of passion for politics.[49] Powell defeated Clinton 50–38 in a hypothetical match-up proposed to voters in the exit polls conducted on Election Day.[50] Despite not standing in the race, Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.[51] "
Moron, you're literally claiming your best shot at electing a Black Republican is someone who never ran for office nor wanted to.
Exit polls showed him winning handily over Bill Clinton, as a Republican with the Republican voters very strongly supporting him.
That right there refutes the point of the op, ie that republicans are racist that is why no black republican presidents.
Still -- you claim your best shot to get a black Republican as president is someone who didn't want the job.
Exit polls are the Gold Standard of polls. They ask the person who they would vote for minutes after the point of voting, and they only get data from voters.
The high numbers that Powell got, showed that Republicans were ready for a black President back in 1996, and considering the strength of the results, well before that.
That alone refutes the point of the op, that the lack of black Republican Presidents is caused by "racism".
When an absolute majority of voters, primary made of republicans say they would have voted for a black republican, it does.
And that refutes the point of the op.
Saying you will vote for someone who's not running means nothing since that still doesn't get a black Republican elected. You remain an abject imbecile.
It demonstrates that the Republican Party has been ready for a Black President, decades ago.
That is relevant to the discussion, when so many lefties like to pretend to believe that the reason for the lack of black republicans or black republican presidents, is gop racism.
Hard data shows that that is a race baiting lie, made by vile liars.
You know, there is also overwhelming support for the Democrat party on behalf of Jewish voters too...is that because of Democrat Anti-Semitism??
If your friend told you that there was a party happening tonight and there were gonna be a bunch of ladies there -- then when you get there -- its only one lady there and 400 guys -- would that still be considered a party with a bunch of ladies there?
Nope. NOt at all. But it is not because the guys are fags who don't like the ladies.
Have you never been at a party, where there was as dearth of women, and it was not because the men there disliked women?
Why are you pretending to be stupid about this?
You purposely avoided 99% of what I said just to focus on the fact, you attended parties with no ladies there....most conservatives have...
But that is for your therapist to work thru with you.....
You took my point, that the lack of black republicans is not because of republican racism, and turned it into a strawman.
ie that my point somehow implied that the dems were. Which does not follow.
The republican party not having anti-black racism, in no way implies that the dems DO.
Watch this. I don't believe in bigfoot.
Does that statement read to you, like I am accusing you of believing in bigfoot?
My point stands. THere are reasons that we have not had a black republican president, yet. GOP racism is not one of those reasons.
AS proved by the 96 exit polls.
Let's cut to the chase.....
The reason there are so few black people voting republican, is the same reason why there are so few black people elected as republicans, and that its the same reason so many of you folks here have had a difficult time answering my question...
The reason is in large part due to the historical racism of conservatives....both in rhetoric and most importantly in POLICY....And those conservatives of course, now happens to be predominantly affiliated with the republican party...
This is why 2 republican party chairmen had to issue apologies and offer mea culpas to try to own up to this reality....and when they did, they were attacked and ran out of their positions.....but I will let a black republican explain this to you himself...
“For the last 40-plus years we had a 'Southern Strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South" -- The genteel phrase dates back to Nixon aide Kevin Phillips, who explained to The New York Times in 1970: “From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that.”
Michael Steele on Why African-Americans Should Vote Republican: âYou Really Don't Have a Reason to, to Be Honestâ
From Wonkette.On Tuesday, No. 1 successful adult Michael Steele, current chairman of the Republican National Committee, described the G.O.P.’s political offensive thusly: “For the last 40-plus years we had a 'Southern Strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male...
Remember, this guy was attacked for issuing an apology for use of the "Southern Strategy" -- he lost his position as GOP chairman even tho he helped republicans win more seats since 1928 and broke fund raising records.....and he still remains a republican because to him, the current racism of his party isn't a deal breaker for him....for many other black voters, it is a deal breaker...
These racists don't want to admit we are smarter than white racists and that we have decided en masse to not join a party full of racists. They'll get 2-3 percent of black people, because there are 2-3 percent of blacks who are dumb enough to ignore the racism. But until the republican party changes its leadership and begins rejecting its base to honestly reach out to black voters, thing will remain as they are, at least on the national level.
Why do you keep deflecting??LOLOLLOLThe part where you delude yourself into believing a black man who never ran for president has a chance at being the first black Republican president.
I reject your pretense of you being too stupid to under stand the concept of linear time.
YOu are stupid, I will grant you that, but you are not so fucking profoundly retarded that you are too stupid to understand the concept that he had a very strong chance, at one time in the past.
That is my point. YOu are welcome to disagree with it, and explain why you disagree with it.
YOu are not welcome to pretend to be to stupid to read it and understand it. THAT IS NOT CREDIBLE. STOP FUCKING AROUND.
Dumbfuck, that's not what this thread asked. It didn't ask, which black wasn't nominated by the Republican party -- it asked who will be the first. Powell never ran, so Powell will not be the first. We're still waiting for the first. Maybe that will come in about another hundred years are so. In the meantime, buzz your nurse to come change your drool cup.
Trump is likely to be re-elected in 2020. THat's four more years right there. And Pence will almost certainly be the next candidate, so that's another four years after THAT.
And if he wins, it could be TWELVE years, until the next opening.
AND, actually, 16, because he would run for re-election, and likely lose.
It is pretty silly to try to guess that far ahead.
BUt it is worth noting, that the REASON FOR THE DELAY, IS NOT ONE OF PRINCIPLE, BUT JUST THE WAY IT WORKED OUT, AS DEMONSTRATED BY THE 96 EXIT POLLS.
You're literally making up this shit as you go along. It's not a given Impeached Trump will win this year. Even if he does, who knows if Pence will run in 2024. Going back to Carter, 3 VP's ran in the ensuing election and 3 did not. And even if Pence ran, you don't know that he would win. You also don't know who else might run against him, if that were to happen.
So now you're just inventing silly excuses for why the GOP has never nominated a black candidate.
How sad.
Hoping the sitting President is re-elected is not silly.
It happens a lot.
I would never offer you an "excuse" on ANYTHING. "Excuse" indicates I think that words or reason can effect your hate of anyone who stands in your way. We both know that is not true.
The OP, as admitted by the man that made it, is all about just smearing the GOP as racist.
Which it is not.
As demonstrated by the 96 exit polls, showing that Republican voters were fine with the idea of a Republican Black President.
That is the point of the thread and my refuting it, right there.
By the way....what do those "republican voters" think about Collin Powell now??THAK YOU!If you are going to deflect this badly -- just don't comment at all...and I assume the reason why there is such overwhelming support by black voters for the Democrat party is because of Democrat racism??LOLI didn't say exit polls are meaningless -- I said that one question is meaningless. Saying you'd vote for someone who's not running doesn't actually prove Republicans would have elected a black.Exit polls are meaningless when the topic is someone who's not running.LOLOLOL"YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too"."
So? Are you so blind you can't see both sides attack each other in the manner you only cry about the left?
"You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?"
You said he had no passion for politics. That's your idea of the most likely black Republican to get elected? Ever???
Do you even have an idea of how stupid you sound?
Dude. Your defense is ignorance. You've admitted to being ignorant on the subject.
Go educate yourself. It will only take a few minutes.
Colin Powell - Wikipedia
"Powell's experience in military matters made him a very popular figure with both American political parties. Many Democrats admired his moderate stance on military matters, while many Republicans saw him as a great asset associated with the successes of past Republican administrations. Put forth as a potential Democratic Vice Presidential nominee in the 1992 U.S. presidential election[43] or even potentially replacing Vice President Dan Quayle as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee,[44] Powell eventually declared himself a Republican and began to campaign for Republican candidates in 1995.[45][46] He was touted as a possible opponent of Bill Clinton in the 1996 U.S. presidential election, possibly capitalizing on a split conservative vote in Iowa[47] and even leading New Hampshire polls for the GOP nomination,[48] but Powell declined, citing a lack of passion for politics.[49] Powell defeated Clinton 50–38 in a hypothetical match-up proposed to voters in the exit polls conducted on Election Day.[50] Despite not standing in the race, Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.[51] "
Moron, you're literally claiming your best shot at electing a Black Republican is someone who never ran for office nor wanted to.
Exit polls showed him winning handily over Bill Clinton, as a Republican with the Republican voters very strongly supporting him.
That right there refutes the point of the op, ie that republicans are racist that is why no black republican presidents.
Still -- you claim your best shot to get a black Republican as president is someone who didn't want the job.
Exit polls are the Gold Standard of polls. They ask the person who they would vote for minutes after the point of voting, and they only get data from voters.
The high numbers that Powell got, showed that Republicans were ready for a black President back in 1996, and considering the strength of the results, well before that.
That alone refutes the point of the op, that the lack of black Republican Presidents is caused by "racism".
When an absolute majority of voters, primary made of republicans say they would have voted for a black republican, it does.
And that refutes the point of the op.
Saying you will vote for someone who's not running means nothing since that still doesn't get a black Republican elected. You remain an abject imbecile.
It demonstrates that the Republican Party has been ready for a Black President, decades ago.
That is relevant to the discussion, when so many lefties like to pretend to believe that the reason for the lack of black republicans or black republican presidents, is gop racism.
Hard data shows that that is a race baiting lie, made by vile liars.
You know, there is also overwhelming support for the Democrat party on behalf of Jewish voters too...is that because of Democrat Anti-Semitism??
If your friend told you that there was a party happening tonight and there were gonna be a bunch of ladies there -- then when you get there -- its only one lady there and 400 guys -- would that still be considered a party with a bunch of ladies there?
Nope. NOt at all. But it is not because the guys are fags who don't like the ladies.
Have you never been at a party, where there was as dearth of women, and it was not because the men there disliked women?
Why are you pretending to be stupid about this?
You purposely avoided 99% of what I said just to focus on the fact, you attended parties with no ladies there....most conservatives have...
But that is for your therapist to work thru with you.....
You took my point, that the lack of black republicans is not because of republican racism, and turned it into a strawman.
ie that my point somehow implied that the dems were. Which does not follow.
The republican party not having anti-black racism, in no way implies that the dems DO.
Watch this. I don't believe in bigfoot.
Does that statement read to you, like I am accusing you of believing in bigfoot?
My point stands. THere are reasons that we have not had a black republican president, yet. GOP racism is not one of those reasons.
AS proved by the 96 exit polls.
Let's cut to the chase.....
The reason there are so few black people voting republican, is the same reason why there are so few black people elected as republicans, and that its the same reason so many of you folks here have had a difficult time answering my question...
The reason is in large part due to the historical racism of conservatives....both in rhetoric and most importantly in POLICY....And those conservatives of course, now happens to be predominantly affiliated with the republican party...
This is why 2 republican party chairmen had to issue apologies and offer mea culpas to try to own up to this reality....and when they did, they were attacked and ran out of their positions.....but I will let a black republican explain this to you himself...
“For the last 40-plus years we had a 'Southern Strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South" -- The genteel phrase dates back to Nixon aide Kevin Phillips, who explained to The New York Times in 1970: “From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that.”
Michael Steele on Why African-Americans Should Vote Republican: âYou Really Don't Have a Reason to, to Be Honestâ
From Wonkette.On Tuesday, No. 1 successful adult Michael Steele, current chairman of the Republican National Committee, described the G.O.P.’s political offensive thusly: “For the last 40-plus years we had a 'Southern Strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male...
Remember, this guy was attacked for issuing an apology for use of the "Southern Strategy" -- he lost his position as GOP chairman even tho he helped republicans win more seats since 1928 and broke fund raising records.....and he still remains a republican because to him, the current racism of his party isn't a deal breaker for him....for many other black voters, it is a deal breaker...
These racists don't want to admit we are smarter than white racists and that we have decided en masse to not join a party full of racists. They'll get 2-3 percent of black people, because there are 2-3 percent of blacks who are dumb enough to ignore the racism. But until the republican party changes its leadership and begins rejecting its base to honestly reach out to black voters, thing will remain as they are, at least on the national level.
The 96 exit polls prove that the GOP is not full of racists. Racists would not be happy with the idea of a black man as President.
Your position is stupid.
www.sfgate.com
www.mediaite.com
By the way....what do those "republican voters" think about Collin Powell now??THAK YOU!If you are going to deflect this badly -- just don't comment at all...and I assume the reason why there is such overwhelming support by black voters for the Democrat party is because of Democrat racism??LOLI didn't say exit polls are meaningless -- I said that one question is meaningless. Saying you'd vote for someone who's not running doesn't actually prove Republicans would have elected a black.Exit polls are meaningless when the topic is someone who's not running.LOLOLOL"YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too"."
So? Are you so blind you can't see both sides attack each other in the manner you only cry about the left?
"You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?"
You said he had no passion for politics. That's your idea of the most likely black Republican to get elected? Ever???
Do you even have an idea of how stupid you sound?
Dude. Your defense is ignorance. You've admitted to being ignorant on the subject.
Go educate yourself. It will only take a few minutes.
Colin Powell - Wikipedia
"Powell's experience in military matters made him a very popular figure with both American political parties. Many Democrats admired his moderate stance on military matters, while many Republicans saw him as a great asset associated with the successes of past Republican administrations. Put forth as a potential Democratic Vice Presidential nominee in the 1992 U.S. presidential election[43] or even potentially replacing Vice President Dan Quayle as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee,[44] Powell eventually declared himself a Republican and began to campaign for Republican candidates in 1995.[45][46] He was touted as a possible opponent of Bill Clinton in the 1996 U.S. presidential election, possibly capitalizing on a split conservative vote in Iowa[47] and even leading New Hampshire polls for the GOP nomination,[48] but Powell declined, citing a lack of passion for politics.[49] Powell defeated Clinton 50–38 in a hypothetical match-up proposed to voters in the exit polls conducted on Election Day.[50] Despite not standing in the race, Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.[51] "
Moron, you're literally claiming your best shot at electing a Black Republican is someone who never ran for office nor wanted to.
Exit polls showed him winning handily over Bill Clinton, as a Republican with the Republican voters very strongly supporting him.
That right there refutes the point of the op, ie that republicans are racist that is why no black republican presidents.
Still -- you claim your best shot to get a black Republican as president is someone who didn't want the job.
Exit polls are the Gold Standard of polls. They ask the person who they would vote for minutes after the point of voting, and they only get data from voters.
The high numbers that Powell got, showed that Republicans were ready for a black President back in 1996, and considering the strength of the results, well before that.
That alone refutes the point of the op, that the lack of black Republican Presidents is caused by "racism".
When an absolute majority of voters, primary made of republicans say they would have voted for a black republican, it does.
And that refutes the point of the op.
Saying you will vote for someone who's not running means nothing since that still doesn't get a black Republican elected. You remain an abject imbecile.
It demonstrates that the Republican Party has been ready for a Black President, decades ago.
That is relevant to the discussion, when so many lefties like to pretend to believe that the reason for the lack of black republicans or black republican presidents, is gop racism.
Hard data shows that that is a race baiting lie, made by vile liars.
You know, there is also overwhelming support for the Democrat party on behalf of Jewish voters too...is that because of Democrat Anti-Semitism??
If your friend told you that there was a party happening tonight and there were gonna be a bunch of ladies there -- then when you get there -- its only one lady there and 400 guys -- would that still be considered a party with a bunch of ladies there?
Nope. NOt at all. But it is not because the guys are fags who don't like the ladies.
Have you never been at a party, where there was as dearth of women, and it was not because the men there disliked women?
Why are you pretending to be stupid about this?
You purposely avoided 99% of what I said just to focus on the fact, you attended parties with no ladies there....most conservatives have...
But that is for your therapist to work thru with you.....
You took my point, that the lack of black republicans is not because of republican racism, and turned it into a strawman.
ie that my point somehow implied that the dems were. Which does not follow.
The republican party not having anti-black racism, in no way implies that the dems DO.
Watch this. I don't believe in bigfoot.
Does that statement read to you, like I am accusing you of believing in bigfoot?
My point stands. THere are reasons that we have not had a black republican president, yet. GOP racism is not one of those reasons.
AS proved by the 96 exit polls.
Let's cut to the chase.....
The reason there are so few black people voting republican, is the same reason why there are so few black people elected as republicans, and that its the same reason so many of you folks here have had a difficult time answering my question...
The reason is in large part due to the historical racism of conservatives....both in rhetoric and most importantly in POLICY....And those conservatives of course, now happens to be predominantly affiliated with the republican party...
This is why 2 republican party chairmen had to issue apologies and offer mea culpas to try to own up to this reality....and when they did, they were attacked and ran out of their positions.....but I will let a black republican explain this to you himself...
“For the last 40-plus years we had a 'Southern Strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South" -- The genteel phrase dates back to Nixon aide Kevin Phillips, who explained to The New York Times in 1970: “From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that.”
Michael Steele on Why African-Americans Should Vote Republican: âYou Really Don't Have a Reason to, to Be Honestâ
From Wonkette.On Tuesday, No. 1 successful adult Michael Steele, current chairman of the Republican National Committee, described the G.O.P.’s political offensive thusly: “For the last 40-plus years we had a 'Southern Strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male...
Remember, this guy was attacked for issuing an apology for use of the "Southern Strategy" -- he lost his position as GOP chairman even tho he helped republicans win more seats since 1928 and broke fund raising records.....and he still remains a republican because to him, the current racism of his party isn't a deal breaker for him....for many other black voters, it is a deal breaker...
These racists don't want to admit we are smarter than white racists and that we have decided en masse to not join a party full of racists. They'll get 2-3 percent of black people, because there are 2-3 percent of blacks who are dumb enough to ignore the racism. But until the republican party changes its leadership and begins rejecting its base to honestly reach out to black voters, thing will remain as they are, at least on the national level.
The 96 exit polls prove that the GOP is not full of racists. Racists would not be happy with the idea of a black man as President.
Your position is stupid.
When you morons are trotting out minstrels like Candace Owens as saviors of the "black conservative" movement -- how come no one is talking to Alan Keyes, JC Watts, the ones you told us where supposed to be saviors of the movement....
And why have you avoided what I said that not 1, but 2 republican party chairman apologized for using the racist southern strategy during the 60's, 70's on into the 80's...were they lying??
GOP renounces '60s racial strategy / Party chair says using divisive issues to win white vote was wrong
GOP renounces '60s racial strategy / Party chair says using divisive issues to win white...
RNC Chair Michael Steele Confesses to Race-Based Southern Strategy
Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele made an admission, this week, that was both stunning and obvious. Speaking to a group of DePaul University students, Steele was asked why a black person should vote for a Republican. In responding, Steele put on the record the political...
Why do you keep deflecting??LOLOLLOLThe part where you delude yourself into believing a black man who never ran for president has a chance at being the first black Republican president.
I reject your pretense of you being too stupid to under stand the concept of linear time.
YOu are stupid, I will grant you that, but you are not so fucking profoundly retarded that you are too stupid to understand the concept that he had a very strong chance, at one time in the past.
That is my point. YOu are welcome to disagree with it, and explain why you disagree with it.
YOu are not welcome to pretend to be to stupid to read it and understand it. THAT IS NOT CREDIBLE. STOP FUCKING AROUND.
Dumbfuck, that's not what this thread asked. It didn't ask, which black wasn't nominated by the Republican party -- it asked who will be the first. Powell never ran, so Powell will not be the first. We're still waiting for the first. Maybe that will come in about another hundred years are so. In the meantime, buzz your nurse to come change your drool cup.
Trump is likely to be re-elected in 2020. THat's four more years right there. And Pence will almost certainly be the next candidate, so that's another four years after THAT.
And if he wins, it could be TWELVE years, until the next opening.
AND, actually, 16, because he would run for re-election, and likely lose.
It is pretty silly to try to guess that far ahead.
BUt it is worth noting, that the REASON FOR THE DELAY, IS NOT ONE OF PRINCIPLE, BUT JUST THE WAY IT WORKED OUT, AS DEMONSTRATED BY THE 96 EXIT POLLS.
You're literally making up this shit as you go along. It's not a given Impeached Trump will win this year. Even if he does, who knows if Pence will run in 2024. Going back to Carter, 3 VP's ran in the ensuing election and 3 did not. And even if Pence ran, you don't know that he would win. You also don't know who else might run against him, if that were to happen.
So now you're just inventing silly excuses for why the GOP has never nominated a black candidate.
How sad.
Hoping the sitting President is re-elected is not silly.
It happens a lot.
I would never offer you an "excuse" on ANYTHING. "Excuse" indicates I think that words or reason can effect your hate of anyone who stands in your way. We both know that is not true.
The OP, as admitted by the man that made it, is all about just smearing the GOP as racist.
Which it is not.
As demonstrated by the 96 exit polls, showing that Republican voters were fine with the idea of a Republican Black President.
That is the point of the thread and my refuting it, right there.
I never admitted anything....
What has been admitted is that your inability to answer my question is EVIDENCE of your own party's racism....
If someone were to ask a "liberal voter" whom do they feel would make a good black Democrat presidential candidate -- they are not going to go on some long diatribe making excuses for what Democrats did 100 years ago....they are just going to name possible candidates -- many of which are probably candidates who are ALREADY elected to public office.....
By the way....what do those "republican voters" think about Collin Powell now??THAK YOU!If you are going to deflect this badly -- just don't comment at all...and I assume the reason why there is such overwhelming support by black voters for the Democrat party is because of Democrat racism??LOLI didn't say exit polls are meaningless -- I said that one question is meaningless. Saying you'd vote for someone who's not running doesn't actually prove Republicans would have elected a black.Exit polls are meaningless when the topic is someone who's not running.LOLOLOL"YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too"."
So? Are you so blind you can't see both sides attack each other in the manner you only cry about the left?
"You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?"
You said he had no passion for politics. That's your idea of the most likely black Republican to get elected? Ever???
Do you even have an idea of how stupid you sound?
Dude. Your defense is ignorance. You've admitted to being ignorant on the subject.
Go educate yourself. It will only take a few minutes.
Colin Powell - Wikipedia
"Powell's experience in military matters made him a very popular figure with both American political parties. Many Democrats admired his moderate stance on military matters, while many Republicans saw him as a great asset associated with the successes of past Republican administrations. Put forth as a potential Democratic Vice Presidential nominee in the 1992 U.S. presidential election[43] or even potentially replacing Vice President Dan Quayle as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee,[44] Powell eventually declared himself a Republican and began to campaign for Republican candidates in 1995.[45][46] He was touted as a possible opponent of Bill Clinton in the 1996 U.S. presidential election, possibly capitalizing on a split conservative vote in Iowa[47] and even leading New Hampshire polls for the GOP nomination,[48] but Powell declined, citing a lack of passion for politics.[49] Powell defeated Clinton 50–38 in a hypothetical match-up proposed to voters in the exit polls conducted on Election Day.[50] Despite not standing in the race, Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.[51] "
Moron, you're literally claiming your best shot at electing a Black Republican is someone who never ran for office nor wanted to.
Exit polls showed him winning handily over Bill Clinton, as a Republican with the Republican voters very strongly supporting him.
That right there refutes the point of the op, ie that republicans are racist that is why no black republican presidents.
Still -- you claim your best shot to get a black Republican as president is someone who didn't want the job.
Exit polls are the Gold Standard of polls. They ask the person who they would vote for minutes after the point of voting, and they only get data from voters.
The high numbers that Powell got, showed that Republicans were ready for a black President back in 1996, and considering the strength of the results, well before that.
That alone refutes the point of the op, that the lack of black Republican Presidents is caused by "racism".
When an absolute majority of voters, primary made of republicans say they would have voted for a black republican, it does.
And that refutes the point of the op.
Saying you will vote for someone who's not running means nothing since that still doesn't get a black Republican elected. You remain an abject imbecile.
It demonstrates that the Republican Party has been ready for a Black President, decades ago.
That is relevant to the discussion, when so many lefties like to pretend to believe that the reason for the lack of black republicans or black republican presidents, is gop racism.
Hard data shows that that is a race baiting lie, made by vile liars.
You know, there is also overwhelming support for the Democrat party on behalf of Jewish voters too...is that because of Democrat Anti-Semitism??
If your friend told you that there was a party happening tonight and there were gonna be a bunch of ladies there -- then when you get there -- its only one lady there and 400 guys -- would that still be considered a party with a bunch of ladies there?
Nope. NOt at all. But it is not because the guys are fags who don't like the ladies.
Have you never been at a party, where there was as dearth of women, and it was not because the men there disliked women?
Why are you pretending to be stupid about this?
You purposely avoided 99% of what I said just to focus on the fact, you attended parties with no ladies there....most conservatives have...
But that is for your therapist to work thru with you.....
You took my point, that the lack of black republicans is not because of republican racism, and turned it into a strawman.
ie that my point somehow implied that the dems were. Which does not follow.
The republican party not having anti-black racism, in no way implies that the dems DO.
Watch this. I don't believe in bigfoot.
Does that statement read to you, like I am accusing you of believing in bigfoot?
My point stands. THere are reasons that we have not had a black republican president, yet. GOP racism is not one of those reasons.
AS proved by the 96 exit polls.
Let's cut to the chase.....
The reason there are so few black people voting republican, is the same reason why there are so few black people elected as republicans, and that its the same reason so many of you folks here have had a difficult time answering my question...
The reason is in large part due to the historical racism of conservatives....both in rhetoric and most importantly in POLICY....And those conservatives of course, now happens to be predominantly affiliated with the republican party...
This is why 2 republican party chairmen had to issue apologies and offer mea culpas to try to own up to this reality....and when they did, they were attacked and ran out of their positions.....but I will let a black republican explain this to you himself...
“For the last 40-plus years we had a 'Southern Strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South" -- The genteel phrase dates back to Nixon aide Kevin Phillips, who explained to The New York Times in 1970: “From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that.”
Michael Steele on Why African-Americans Should Vote Republican: âYou Really Don't Have a Reason to, to Be Honestâ
From Wonkette.On Tuesday, No. 1 successful adult Michael Steele, current chairman of the Republican National Committee, described the G.O.P.’s political offensive thusly: “For the last 40-plus years we had a 'Southern Strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male...
Remember, this guy was attacked for issuing an apology for use of the "Southern Strategy" -- he lost his position as GOP chairman even tho he helped republicans win more seats since 1928 and broke fund raising records.....and he still remains a republican because to him, the current racism of his party isn't a deal breaker for him....for many other black voters, it is a deal breaker...
These racists don't want to admit we are smarter than white racists and that we have decided en masse to not join a party full of racists. They'll get 2-3 percent of black people, because there are 2-3 percent of blacks who are dumb enough to ignore the racism. But until the republican party changes its leadership and begins rejecting its base to honestly reach out to black voters, thing will remain as they are, at least on the national level.
The 96 exit polls prove that the GOP is not full of racists. Racists would not be happy with the idea of a black man as President.
Your position is stupid.
When you morons are trotting out minstrels like Candace Owens as saviors of the "black conservative" movement -- how come no one is talking to Alan Keyes, JC Watts, the ones you told us where supposed to be saviors of the movement....
And why have you avoided what I said that not 1, but 2 republican party chairman apologized for using the racist southern strategy during the 60's, 70's on into the 80's...were they lying??
GOP renounces '60s racial strategy / Party chair says using divisive issues to win white vote was wrong
GOP renounces '60s racial strategy / Party chair says using divisive issues to win white...
RNC Chair Michael Steele Confesses to Race-Based Southern Strategy
Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele made an admission, this week, that was both stunning and obvious. Speaking to a group of DePaul University students, Steele was asked why a black person should vote for a Republican. In responding, Steele put on the record the political...
If 2 DNC chairmen came out and issued a statement like that about Democrats -- would you say they were lying, would say it was a mistake, that it's a myth -- or would you be holding it up as proof of something??By the way....what do those "republican voters" think about Collin Powell now??THAK YOU!If you are going to deflect this badly -- just don't comment at all...and I assume the reason why there is such overwhelming support by black voters for the Democrat party is because of Democrat racism??LOLI didn't say exit polls are meaningless -- I said that one question is meaningless. Saying you'd vote for someone who's not running doesn't actually prove Republicans would have elected a black.Exit polls are meaningless when the topic is someone who's not running.LOLOLOL"YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too"."
So? Are you so blind you can't see both sides attack each other in the manner you only cry about the left?
"You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?"
You said he had no passion for politics. That's your idea of the most likely black Republican to get elected? Ever???
Do you even have an idea of how stupid you sound?
Dude. Your defense is ignorance. You've admitted to being ignorant on the subject.
Go educate yourself. It will only take a few minutes.
Colin Powell - Wikipedia
"Powell's experience in military matters made him a very popular figure with both American political parties. Many Democrats admired his moderate stance on military matters, while many Republicans saw him as a great asset associated with the successes of past Republican administrations. Put forth as a potential Democratic Vice Presidential nominee in the 1992 U.S. presidential election[43] or even potentially replacing Vice President Dan Quayle as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee,[44] Powell eventually declared himself a Republican and began to campaign for Republican candidates in 1995.[45][46] He was touted as a possible opponent of Bill Clinton in the 1996 U.S. presidential election, possibly capitalizing on a split conservative vote in Iowa[47] and even leading New Hampshire polls for the GOP nomination,[48] but Powell declined, citing a lack of passion for politics.[49] Powell defeated Clinton 50–38 in a hypothetical match-up proposed to voters in the exit polls conducted on Election Day.[50] Despite not standing in the race, Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.[51] "
Moron, you're literally claiming your best shot at electing a Black Republican is someone who never ran for office nor wanted to.
Exit polls showed him winning handily over Bill Clinton, as a Republican with the Republican voters very strongly supporting him.
That right there refutes the point of the op, ie that republicans are racist that is why no black republican presidents.
Still -- you claim your best shot to get a black Republican as president is someone who didn't want the job.
Exit polls are the Gold Standard of polls. They ask the person who they would vote for minutes after the point of voting, and they only get data from voters.
The high numbers that Powell got, showed that Republicans were ready for a black President back in 1996, and considering the strength of the results, well before that.
That alone refutes the point of the op, that the lack of black Republican Presidents is caused by "racism".
When an absolute majority of voters, primary made of republicans say they would have voted for a black republican, it does.
And that refutes the point of the op.
Saying you will vote for someone who's not running means nothing since that still doesn't get a black Republican elected. You remain an abject imbecile.
It demonstrates that the Republican Party has been ready for a Black President, decades ago.
That is relevant to the discussion, when so many lefties like to pretend to believe that the reason for the lack of black republicans or black republican presidents, is gop racism.
Hard data shows that that is a race baiting lie, made by vile liars.
You know, there is also overwhelming support for the Democrat party on behalf of Jewish voters too...is that because of Democrat Anti-Semitism??
If your friend told you that there was a party happening tonight and there were gonna be a bunch of ladies there -- then when you get there -- its only one lady there and 400 guys -- would that still be considered a party with a bunch of ladies there?
Nope. NOt at all. But it is not because the guys are fags who don't like the ladies.
Have you never been at a party, where there was as dearth of women, and it was not because the men there disliked women?
Why are you pretending to be stupid about this?
You purposely avoided 99% of what I said just to focus on the fact, you attended parties with no ladies there....most conservatives have...
But that is for your therapist to work thru with you.....
You took my point, that the lack of black republicans is not because of republican racism, and turned it into a strawman.
ie that my point somehow implied that the dems were. Which does not follow.
The republican party not having anti-black racism, in no way implies that the dems DO.
Watch this. I don't believe in bigfoot.
Does that statement read to you, like I am accusing you of believing in bigfoot?
My point stands. THere are reasons that we have not had a black republican president, yet. GOP racism is not one of those reasons.
AS proved by the 96 exit polls.
Let's cut to the chase.....
The reason there are so few black people voting republican, is the same reason why there are so few black people elected as republicans, and that its the same reason so many of you folks here have had a difficult time answering my question...
The reason is in large part due to the historical racism of conservatives....both in rhetoric and most importantly in POLICY....And those conservatives of course, now happens to be predominantly affiliated with the republican party...
This is why 2 republican party chairmen had to issue apologies and offer mea culpas to try to own up to this reality....and when they did, they were attacked and ran out of their positions.....but I will let a black republican explain this to you himself...
“For the last 40-plus years we had a 'Southern Strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South" -- The genteel phrase dates back to Nixon aide Kevin Phillips, who explained to The New York Times in 1970: “From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that.”
Michael Steele on Why African-Americans Should Vote Republican: âYou Really Don't Have a Reason to, to Be Honestâ
From Wonkette.On Tuesday, No. 1 successful adult Michael Steele, current chairman of the Republican National Committee, described the G.O.P.’s political offensive thusly: “For the last 40-plus years we had a 'Southern Strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male...
Remember, this guy was attacked for issuing an apology for use of the "Southern Strategy" -- he lost his position as GOP chairman even tho he helped republicans win more seats since 1928 and broke fund raising records.....and he still remains a republican because to him, the current racism of his party isn't a deal breaker for him....for many other black voters, it is a deal breaker...
These racists don't want to admit we are smarter than white racists and that we have decided en masse to not join a party full of racists. They'll get 2-3 percent of black people, because there are 2-3 percent of blacks who are dumb enough to ignore the racism. But until the republican party changes its leadership and begins rejecting its base to honestly reach out to black voters, thing will remain as they are, at least on the national level.
The 96 exit polls prove that the GOP is not full of racists. Racists would not be happy with the idea of a black man as President.
Your position is stupid.
When you morons are trotting out minstrels like Candace Owens as saviors of the "black conservative" movement -- how come no one is talking to Alan Keyes, JC Watts, the ones you told us where supposed to be saviors of the movement....
And why have you avoided what I said that not 1, but 2 republican party chairman apologized for using the racist southern strategy during the 60's, 70's on into the 80's...were they lying??
GOP renounces '60s racial strategy / Party chair says using divisive issues to win white vote was wrong
GOP renounces '60s racial strategy / Party chair says using divisive issues to win white...
RNC Chair Michael Steele Confesses to Race-Based Southern Strategy
Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele made an admission, this week, that was both stunning and obvious. Speaking to a group of DePaul University students, Steele was asked why a black person should vote for a Republican. In responding, Steele put on the record the political...
1. Since his betrayal? NOt much. Which does not change the fact that before his betrayal, republicans were really wanted him to run and be President, thus disproving your claim of racism.
2. Ever clip of Candice I see, she is kicking some libs ass. I don't see her as a savior of "black conservativism" so much as just a great conservative. I hope she sticks around forever, and keeps kicking lib ass. If she ever chooses to run for anything, I hope she does well.
3. Alan Keyes was set up for failure by the asshole Country Club Republicans, and flamed out. They did not do it because they are racist assholes, but because they are elitists assholes, who don't like hard core conservatives. YOu do understand that, right?
4. I'm not sure what happened with Watts.
5. I did not avoid it. I addressed it. THey were wrong to do so, and I support that fact that the one paid a price for his stupidity. THe Southern Strategy was a myth. The South became less racist and as that happened, it also became less democratic. Perhaps a coincidence.
You keep bringing up 1996 as to say "that one time, we would have supported a black guy" -- because of some poll...Why do you keep deflecting??LOLOLLOLThe part where you delude yourself into believing a black man who never ran for president has a chance at being the first black Republican president.
I reject your pretense of you being too stupid to under stand the concept of linear time.
YOu are stupid, I will grant you that, but you are not so fucking profoundly retarded that you are too stupid to understand the concept that he had a very strong chance, at one time in the past.
That is my point. YOu are welcome to disagree with it, and explain why you disagree with it.
YOu are not welcome to pretend to be to stupid to read it and understand it. THAT IS NOT CREDIBLE. STOP FUCKING AROUND.
Dumbfuck, that's not what this thread asked. It didn't ask, which black wasn't nominated by the Republican party -- it asked who will be the first. Powell never ran, so Powell will not be the first. We're still waiting for the first. Maybe that will come in about another hundred years are so. In the meantime, buzz your nurse to come change your drool cup.
Trump is likely to be re-elected in 2020. THat's four more years right there. And Pence will almost certainly be the next candidate, so that's another four years after THAT.
And if he wins, it could be TWELVE years, until the next opening.
AND, actually, 16, because he would run for re-election, and likely lose.
It is pretty silly to try to guess that far ahead.
BUt it is worth noting, that the REASON FOR THE DELAY, IS NOT ONE OF PRINCIPLE, BUT JUST THE WAY IT WORKED OUT, AS DEMONSTRATED BY THE 96 EXIT POLLS.
You're literally making up this shit as you go along. It's not a given Impeached Trump will win this year. Even if he does, who knows if Pence will run in 2024. Going back to Carter, 3 VP's ran in the ensuing election and 3 did not. And even if Pence ran, you don't know that he would win. You also don't know who else might run against him, if that were to happen.
So now you're just inventing silly excuses for why the GOP has never nominated a black candidate.
How sad.
Hoping the sitting President is re-elected is not silly.
It happens a lot.
I would never offer you an "excuse" on ANYTHING. "Excuse" indicates I think that words or reason can effect your hate of anyone who stands in your way. We both know that is not true.
The OP, as admitted by the man that made it, is all about just smearing the GOP as racist.
Which it is not.
As demonstrated by the 96 exit polls, showing that Republican voters were fine with the idea of a Republican Black President.
That is the point of the thread and my refuting it, right there.
I never admitted anything....
What has been admitted is that your inability to answer my question is EVIDENCE of your own party's racism....
If someone were to ask a "liberal voter" whom do they feel would make a good black Democrat presidential candidate -- they are not going to go on some long diatribe making excuses for what Democrats did 100 years ago....they are just going to name possible candidates -- many of which are probably candidates who are ALREADY elected to public office.....
The dem party has the vast majority of potential candidates.
That the few blacks that are in the party, are so far down the list of potential candidates that I don't know their names, is not evidence of racism.
If you had asked this question in summer, 1996, I would have had an excellent answer, one a good number of my friends were quite excited about.
Does that mean to you, that in 1996, the GOP was not "racist", cause we would have had a name?
YOur position, is nothing but partisan hackery and race baiting.
Does it bother you that the potential black candidates all lost in the dem primaries? Is that evidence of "Racism" or just that Biden won?
