The First Black Republican Presidential Nominee Will Be.....

[Correll]

Your argument is tired son. You argue against documented history, court cases and public policy. That's what you're challenging and you're challenging it with only your opinion. So let's talk about Corrigan v. Buckley. This case is an example of how the government helped whites enforce racist policy. I doubt if you know anything about that case and decision. But when I say that the government has given whites everything they have, you want to argue claiming that you aren't kissing any black persons ass and that somehow you're whitey the hero because you challenge the black man you call a racist because he refuses to genuflect to your punk lily white ass.

The fact you know nothing about this case is a reason why you don't want to discuss the years after slavery and it is why you best leave this argument before I stick my black foot so far up your white ass, that you can walk while sitting on it.

You call me a racist and you do that based on your white fragility.

You're retarded.

So you know nothing about Corrigan v. Buckley but you want yo argue with me and call me a racist. Now that's retarded. Do you know what a deed clause is? A restrictive covenant? Contract selling? C'mon Mr. I'm the white man that bows to no negro. Because when I say that Whites have benefitted from racist law and policy, you choose to disagree, woof about what ass you won't kiss, then call me a racist for saying things like that. These things happened after slavery so talking about who owns who today us just a diversion and its all you got. You decided you could go from high school to the pros, but you ain't Kevin Garnett. White racist shit talk don't work here son. I ain't posting memes junior, I'm posting legal cases and decisions from the United States Supreme court. You have no challenge for this.

That's nice. Go play.

He says he want's to discuss the case, then mentions NOTHING about the case. He does spew a lot of racist bullshit though.


Did he think no one would notice? Or is he so stupid that he did not notice?

He's counting on the usual leftist response: Do Not Question The Black Person.

Rational people, however, don't do that.

I asked if the chump knew anything about the case correll. Just like I asked your punk ass to show the national policy of anti white racism you have yet to show. Stay out of adult conversations boy.

Now chump, I asked if you knew anything about Corrigan v. Buckley. If you new anything about the case I don't have to mention anything. So Mr. I will question all blacks because a want to show all the other racists that I ain't scared, do you know anything about that case?

It makes you angry when people don't say the things you want them to say, doesn't it?

Well, you are a leftist. Nothing but emotion.

And how loudly would you screech RACIST!!! if I called you "boy", huh?

Well, you are a leftist. Emotion and double standards.

So you don't know anything about the supreme court case. That would mean you have to discuss things rationally and logically, instead of emotionally. Which you cannot do. I don't have to screech anything, you show your racism when you post.

You never have pointed out anything I've said that's racist. You think you have, but there was no actual racism there. I just said things you don't like, so you screech RACISM!!!

I think I'm vastly tired of your bullshit.

Yes I have. In standard USMB racist fashion, you avoid the challenge then claim things. You were asked to discuss the decision made in Corrigan v. Buckley. You can't because it proves my point of how the government has given whites everything they have. It kills your claim of my racism, so all you have left is trolling.

No, you have not. YOu are a fool.

 

[Correll]

Republicans struggle to elect blacks to Congress. Electing one as president won't happen in this century.

I don't know why this is an issue for Democrats in the first place since they don't like conservatives anyway. If you don't like conservatives or conservative values, you're not going to like a black Republican. And if a black Republican does get nominated, it's unlikely he/she would be elected and Democrats would be largely responsible for this. The reason being because a lot of black Democrats already consider conservative blacks as sellouts and Uncle Toms.

All of this nonsense about black Republican presidential nominees is just farting in a hurricane. Speaking for myself, I don't care how many blacks the Republican party has. A black person will either choose to be Republican or not, I don't give a shit and I don't want some kind of quota. If the Republican party doesn't have what a black person wants, shut the fuck up and become a Democrat. Same goes for white people.

So a black Republican can't get elected without support from Democrats?

Thanks for admitting that many Republicans and conservatives are racist. I already knew that but it's nice to see your side admit it.

Colin Powell would have easily defeated Bill Clinton according to exit polls in 1996. I would have happily voted for him against Bill Clinton. Some of my republican friends were really big fans of his.

That not many blacks would likely have crossed party lines, would not have mattered, and actually, imo, would have been a good thing.

I don't know why Ghost thinks that a black republican candidate would not win, or could not win without black dem voters. But he is incorrect.

LOL

If he's incorrect, where is the black Republican president? ...

Colin Powell did not run because he did not have a "passion for politics". That is where the most recent chance of a black republican President went.


Can you blame him? You libs are fucking nightmares to deal with.

Take the log out of your eye, you rightards are also nightmares.

So, you admit it. THe primary reason that Colin Power did not run, was him not wanting the job.


Can you admit that he would have been a strong contender for the nomination, if he had run, as the polling showed?

I admitted nothing about Powell, ya flaming moron. I didn't follow Powell to know if he was or was not thinking about running; or if so, why not.

YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too".


That is an admission that you libs make the job not desirable.



You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?


LOL!!! Well, that is completely credible for a lib. I accept your defense of ignorance.


You can either trust me on this, or go read up on it, and get back to me when you are caught up. Plenty on this issue online.

Your call.

"YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too"."

So? Are you so blind you can't see both sides attack each other in the manner you only cry about the left?

"You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?"

You said he had no passion for politics. That's your idea of the most likely black Republican to get elected? Ever???

Do you even have an idea of how stupid you sound?

Dude. Your defense is ignorance. You've admitted to being ignorant on the subject.


Go educate yourself. It will only take a few minutes.

Colin Powell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Powell's experience in military matters made him a very popular figure with both American political parties. Many Democrats admired his moderate stance on military matters, while many Republicans saw him as a great asset associated with the successes of past Republican administrations. Put forth as a potential Democratic Vice Presidential nominee in the 1992 U.S. presidential election[43] or even potentially replacing Vice President Dan Quayle as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee,[44] Powell eventually declared himself a Republican and began to campaign for Republican candidates in 1995.[45][46] He was touted as a possible opponent of Bill Clinton in the 1996 U.S. presidential election, possibly capitalizing on a split conservative vote in Iowa[47] and even leading New Hampshire polls for the GOP nomination,[48] but Powell declined, citing a lack of passion for politics.[49] Powell defeated Clinton 50–38 in a hypothetical match-up proposed to voters in the exit polls conducted on Election Day.[50] Despite not standing in the race, Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.[51] "

LOLOLOL

Moron, you're literally claiming your best shot at electing a Black Republican is someone who never ran for office nor wanted to.

Exit polls showed him winning handily over Bill Clinton, as a Republican with the Republican voters very strongly supporting him.


That right there refutes the point of the op, ie that republicans are racist that is why no black republican presidents.

Exit polls are meaningless when the topic is someone who's not running.

Still -- you claim your best shot to get a black Republican as president is someone who didn't want the job.

Exit polls are the Gold Standard of polls. They ask the person who they would vote for minutes after the point of voting, and they only get data from voters.


The high numbers that Powell got, showed that Republicans were ready for a black President back in 1996, and considering the strength of the results, well before that.


That alone refutes the point of the op, that the lack of black Republican Presidents is caused by "racism".

I didn't say exit polls are meaningless -- I said that one question is meaningless. Saying you'd vote for someone who's not running doesn't actually prove Republicans would have elected a black.

When an absolute majority of voters, primary made of republicans say they would have voted for a black republican, it does.


And that refutes the point of the op.

LOL

Saying you will vote for someone who's not running means nothing since that still doesn't get a black Republican elected. You remain an abject imbecile.

It demonstrates that the Republican Party has been ready for a Black President, decades ago.


That is relevant to the discussion, when so many lefties like to pretend to believe that the reason for the lack of black republicans or black republican presidents, is gop racism.


Hard data shows that that is a race baiting lie, made by vile liars.

 

[Correll]

Republicans struggle to elect blacks to Congress. Electing one as president won't happen in this century.

I don't know why this is an issue for Democrats in the first place since they don't like conservatives anyway. If you don't like conservatives or conservative values, you're not going to like a black Republican. And if a black Republican does get nominated, it's unlikely he/she would be elected and Democrats would be largely responsible for this. The reason being because a lot of black Democrats already consider conservative blacks as sellouts and Uncle Toms.

All of this nonsense about black Republican presidential nominees is just farting in a hurricane. Speaking for myself, I don't care how many blacks the Republican party has. A black person will either choose to be Republican or not, I don't give a shit and I don't want some kind of quota. If the Republican party doesn't have what a black person wants, shut the fuck up and become a Democrat. Same goes for white people.

So a black Republican can't get elected without support from Democrats?

I said black Democrats. The party of which most blacks in this country belong to.

Thanks for admitting that many Republicans and conservatives are racist. I already knew that but it's nice to see your side admit it.

Thanks for admitting your prejudice in assuming many Republicans and conservatives are racist.

You know, most Republicans are not racist and are completely baffled and angered by this trumped up hypocritical Democrat crusade against their imaginary racism and are quite frankly, sick and fucking tired of it.

LOL

YOU admitted many Republicans/conservatives are racist.

*LOL*

No, I did not.

YOU said a black Republican struggles to get elected...

No, I did not.

​

"And if a black Republican does get nominated, it's unlikely he/she would be elected and Democrats would be largely responsible for this."

​

... it wouldn't be a problem if there weren't so many racists on the right.

It wouldn't be a problem if you didn't think there were so many racists on the right.

As for whether or not a black Republican nominee could get elected, I can't say that he would not get elected and I didn't say that in the first place. However, one thing I know for sure: many blacks would see him/her as a sellout and an Uncle Tom for deserting or not joining the party they think he should have. You know this as well as I do.

"No, I did not. "

The fuck you didn't.

Right, the fuck I didn't.

"And if a black Republican does get nominated, it's unlikely he/she would be elected"

​

Quoted out of context. How original.

I think you know by now that I do not agree that most conservatives are racist and that I did not mean what you think I said. So what is the point in your pursuing this?

That's good because I never said most conservatives are racist.

You said I admitted to it dumbass.

Dumbfuck -- quote me saying you admitted "most conservatives are racist."

When you realize you can't since I never said that, fuck off.

"Thanks for admitting that many Republicans and conservatives are racist."

So what is this about, my use of the word "most" as opposed to "many"? Is that it? If so, very well; I do not agree that many Republicans and conservatives are racist and that I did not mean what you think I said. Better?

So again, why are you pursuing this if you know it's not what I said or what I meant?

What a freaking drama queen. All of that, over that?


What a loser.


Well, I guess he was desperate for something to have a hissy fit over, to distract from how badly he has had his ass kicked.

LOLOL

And by getting my ass kicked, your big claim is that Republicans would elect a black man who never wanted to be president.

Would HAVE, yes. The data is clear. The claim the the reason for the lack of black republican presidents, being "racism" is demonstrated to be incorrect.

No, not would have. You can't be elected president if you're not running....

Are you really too stupid to understand from context, that I was referring to "if he had decided to run"? I mean, I did not spell it out, because it was so obvious that you would have to be a complete fucking moron to not get my meaning.


Are you seriously claiming that you are that fucking stupid?

 

[Correll]

Republicans struggle to elect blacks to Congress. Electing one as president won't happen in this century.

I don't know why this is an issue for Democrats in the first place since they don't like conservatives anyway. If you don't like conservatives or conservative values, you're not going to like a black Republican. And if a black Republican does get nominated, it's unlikely he/she would be elected and Democrats would be largely responsible for this. The reason being because a lot of black Democrats already consider conservative blacks as sellouts and Uncle Toms.

All of this nonsense about black Republican presidential nominees is just farting in a hurricane. Speaking for myself, I don't care how many blacks the Republican party has. A black person will either choose to be Republican or not, I don't give a shit and I don't want some kind of quota. If the Republican party doesn't have what a black person wants, shut the fuck up and become a Democrat. Same goes for white people.

So a black Republican can't get elected without support from Democrats?

I said black Democrats. The party of which most blacks in this country belong to.

Thanks for admitting that many Republicans and conservatives are racist. I already knew that but it's nice to see your side admit it.

Thanks for admitting your prejudice in assuming many Republicans and conservatives are racist.

You know, most Republicans are not racist and are completely baffled and angered by this trumped up hypocritical Democrat crusade against their imaginary racism and are quite frankly, sick and fucking tired of it.

LOL

YOU admitted many Republicans/conservatives are racist.

*LOL*

No, I did not.

YOU said a black Republican struggles to get elected...

No, I did not.

​

"And if a black Republican does get nominated, it's unlikely he/she would be elected and Democrats would be largely responsible for this."

​

... it wouldn't be a problem if there weren't so many racists on the right.

It wouldn't be a problem if you didn't think there were so many racists on the right.

As for whether or not a black Republican nominee could get elected, I can't say that he would not get elected and I didn't say that in the first place. However, one thing I know for sure: many blacks would see him/her as a sellout and an Uncle Tom for deserting or not joining the party they think he should have. You know this as well as I do.

"No, I did not. "

The fuck you didn't.

Right, the fuck I didn't.

"And if a black Republican does get nominated, it's unlikely he/she would be elected"

​

Quoted out of context. How original.

I think you know by now that I do not agree that most conservatives are racist and that I did not mean what you think I said. So what is the point in your pursuing this?

That's good because I never said most conservatives are racist.

You said I admitted to it dumbass.

Dumbfuck -- quote me saying you admitted "most conservatives are racist."

When you realize you can't since I never said that, fuck off.

"Thanks for admitting that many Republicans and conservatives are racist."

So what is this about, my use of the word "most" as opposed to "many"? Is that it? If so, very well; I do not agree that many Republicans and conservatives are racist and that I did not mean what you think I said. Better?

So again, why are you pursuing this if you know it's not what I said or what I meant?

What a freaking drama queen. All of that, over that?


What a loser.


Well, I guess he was desperate for something to have a hissy fit over, to distract from how badly he has had his ass kicked.

I've run into this sort of thing many times. If you can't actually refute the argument, make your opponent look foolish or stupid. It's what Grumblefish did with me the whole time he was debating me in this discussion.

If you're arguing with something I never said then you're arguing with yourself -- and losing.

YOu having a hissy fit over such a minor quibble, is pathetic. You are just trying to distract from how much you have gotten your ass handed to you.

LOLOLOL

Spits the idiot whose best hope of electing a black republican as president is someone who's not running for president.

We are discussing hypotheticals here. Did you really not understand that? What is your iq?

 

[Correll]

And yet NONE of that ended slavery, it took white people to grow up and accept man was the same no matter the color. And EVERY European Country outlawed slavery not because of a black uprising and not because of blacks speaking but because enough whites finally understood and voted it away. And it took a war In the US where whites fought to end slavery.

Slavery hasn't ended. Making it widely illegal first took blacks fighting back and speaking out to convince enough white people to grow up and accept that man is the same no matter the color.

I like how you ignore the whites who fought against slavery.


Great way to increase division. Ignore the history of people working across color lines.


You ever think about what kind of future you are building, where whites will be a minority, and they will get the blame for the bad things done by white ancestors, but no credit for any of the good things done by their ancestors?



Are you only happy when it rains?

 

[Correll]

And yet NONE of that ended slavery, it took white people to grow up and accept man was the same no matter the color. And EVERY European Country outlawed slavery not because of a black uprising and not because of blacks speaking but because enough whites finally understood and voted it away. And it took a war In the US where whites fought to end slavery.

Slavery hasn't ended. Making it widely illegal first took blacks fighting back and speaking out to convince enough white people to grow up and accept that man is the same no matter the color.

That is simply wrong. No battle no uprising no attack by blacks convinced a single European Country to ban slavery.

You've been shown that your opinion is incorrect.

Be specific now and cite a single battle a single uprising or or attack that somehow changed the Governments minds in Europe. The facts are that whites realized what they were doing was wrong and quit.

You were shown that what happened in Haiti shocked Europe and began a change. Also, you were shown the resistance by Africans that took the lives of white invaders, which also helped the cause.

 

[Correll]

And yet NONE of that ended slavery, it took white people to grow up and accept man was the same no matter the color. And EVERY European Country outlawed slavery not because of a black uprising and not because of blacks speaking but because enough whites finally understood and voted it away. And it took a war In the US where whites fought to end slavery.

Slavery hasn't ended. Making it widely illegal first took blacks fighting back and speaking out to convince enough white people to grow up and accept that man is the same no matter the color.

Agreed......Now lets hire the best of us all and not the qualified forced on us by over quotas.

Understand that quotas were 100 percent white for almost 200 years. So quotas have always been forced on you.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Whites worked so hard to end slavery in America that they created Jim Crow.

And then whites ended Jim Crow.

 

[Grumblenuts]

I like how you ignore the whites who fought against slavery.

Cute. You can't read and cry like a little girl.

 

[Faun]

And yet NONE of that ended slavery, it took white people to grow up and accept man was the same no matter the color. And EVERY European Country outlawed slavery not because of a black uprising and not because of blacks speaking but because enough whites finally understood and voted it away. And it took a war In the US where whites fought to end slavery.

Actually, it took men from the north to beat the racist conservative south into submission to give up their slaves.

 

[Correll]

Whites worked so hard to end slavery in America that they created Jim Crow.

And then whites ended Jim Crow.

Lefties only believe in groups when it is assigning blame to whites. When it is something that would be CREDIT to whites, different rules apply.


And of course, all other races have different rules too. THey get the reverse. THey get credit for anything good, and get a pass for anything bad.


AND it is racist to point it out. OR to be unhappy about it.


And really, you're just racist for being white. Original Sin, baby.

 

[Correll]

I like how you ignore the whites who fought against slavery.

Cute. You can't read and cry like a little girl.

See we both did snark.


The different is that my point was based on your actual position and statements.


while your's is just you making up shit.


And EVERYONE CAN SEE THAT, INCLUDING YOU.


So, who do you think you are fooling with your stupid lies?

 

[Faun]

Republicans struggle to elect blacks to Congress. Electing one as president won't happen in this century.

I don't know why this is an issue for Democrats in the first place since they don't like conservatives anyway. If you don't like conservatives or conservative values, you're not going to like a black Republican. And if a black Republican does get nominated, it's unlikely he/she would be elected and Democrats would be largely responsible for this. The reason being because a lot of black Democrats already consider conservative blacks as sellouts and Uncle Toms.

All of this nonsense about black Republican presidential nominees is just farting in a hurricane. Speaking for myself, I don't care how many blacks the Republican party has. A black person will either choose to be Republican or not, I don't give a shit and I don't want some kind of quota. If the Republican party doesn't have what a black person wants, shut the fuck up and become a Democrat. Same goes for white people.

So a black Republican can't get elected without support from Democrats?

Thanks for admitting that many Republicans and conservatives are racist. I already knew that but it's nice to see your side admit it.

Colin Powell would have easily defeated Bill Clinton according to exit polls in 1996. I would have happily voted for him against Bill Clinton. Some of my republican friends were really big fans of his.

That not many blacks would likely have crossed party lines, would not have mattered, and actually, imo, would have been a good thing.

I don't know why Ghost thinks that a black republican candidate would not win, or could not win without black dem voters. But he is incorrect.

LOL

If he's incorrect, where is the black Republican president? ...

Colin Powell did not run because he did not have a "passion for politics". That is where the most recent chance of a black republican President went.


Can you blame him? You libs are fucking nightmares to deal with.

Take the log out of your eye, you rightards are also nightmares.

So, you admit it. THe primary reason that Colin Power did not run, was him not wanting the job.


Can you admit that he would have been a strong contender for the nomination, if he had run, as the polling showed?

I admitted nothing about Powell, ya flaming moron. I didn't follow Powell to know if he was or was not thinking about running; or if so, why not.

YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too".


That is an admission that you libs make the job not desirable.



You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?


LOL!!! Well, that is completely credible for a lib. I accept your defense of ignorance.


You can either trust me on this, or go read up on it, and get back to me when you are caught up. Plenty on this issue online.

Your call.

"YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too"."

So? Are you so blind you can't see both sides attack each other in the manner you only cry about the left?

"You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?"

You said he had no passion for politics. That's your idea of the most likely black Republican to get elected? Ever???

Do you even have an idea of how stupid you sound?

Dude. Your defense is ignorance. You've admitted to being ignorant on the subject.


Go educate yourself. It will only take a few minutes.

Colin Powell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Powell's experience in military matters made him a very popular figure with both American political parties. Many Democrats admired his moderate stance on military matters, while many Republicans saw him as a great asset associated with the successes of past Republican administrations. Put forth as a potential Democratic Vice Presidential nominee in the 1992 U.S. presidential election[43] or even potentially replacing Vice President Dan Quayle as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee,[44] Powell eventually declared himself a Republican and began to campaign for Republican candidates in 1995.[45][46] He was touted as a possible opponent of Bill Clinton in the 1996 U.S. presidential election, possibly capitalizing on a split conservative vote in Iowa[47] and even leading New Hampshire polls for the GOP nomination,[48] but Powell declined, citing a lack of passion for politics.[49] Powell defeated Clinton 50–38 in a hypothetical match-up proposed to voters in the exit polls conducted on Election Day.[50] Despite not standing in the race, Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.[51] "

LOLOLOL

Moron, you're literally claiming your best shot at electing a Black Republican is someone who never ran for office nor wanted to.

Exit polls showed him winning handily over Bill Clinton, as a Republican with the Republican voters very strongly supporting him.


That right there refutes the point of the op, ie that republicans are racist that is why no black republican presidents.

Exit polls are meaningless when the topic is someone who's not running.

Still -- you claim your best shot to get a black Republican as president is someone who didn't want the job.

Exit polls are the Gold Standard of polls. They ask the person who they would vote for minutes after the point of voting, and they only get data from voters.


The high numbers that Powell got, showed that Republicans were ready for a black President back in 1996, and considering the strength of the results, well before that.


That alone refutes the point of the op, that the lack of black Republican Presidents is caused by "racism".

I didn't say exit polls are meaningless -- I said that one question is meaningless. Saying you'd vote for someone who's not running doesn't actually prove Republicans would have elected a black.

When an absolute majority of voters, primary made of republicans say they would have voted for a black republican, it does.


And that refutes the point of the op.

LOL

Saying you will vote for someone who's not running means nothing since that still doesn't get a black Republican elected. You remain an abject imbecile.

It demonstrates that the Republican Party has been ready for a Black President, decades ago.


That is relevant to the discussion, when so many lefties like to pretend to believe that the reason for the lack of black republicans or black republican presidents, is gop racism.


Hard data shows that that is a race baiting lie, made by vile liars.

LOLOL

Suuure, numbnuts ... so how many Republicans' votes did Powell get?

 

[Correll]

And yet NONE of that ended slavery, it took white people to grow up and accept man was the same no matter the color. And EVERY European Country outlawed slavery not because of a black uprising and not because of blacks speaking but because enough whites finally understood and voted it away. And it took a war In the US where whites fought to end slavery.

Actually, it took men from the north to beat the racist conservative south into submission to give up their slaves.

Using modern labels to describe evens of over 150 years ago, is misleading and dishonest.


Which is why you did it.


Because you know that lying is the only way for modern liberals like yourself, to win an argument.

 

[Faun]

And yet NONE of that ended slavery, it took white people to grow up and accept man was the same no matter the color. And EVERY European Country outlawed slavery not because of a black uprising and not because of blacks speaking but because enough whites finally understood and voted it away. And it took a war In the US where whites fought to end slavery.

Actually, it took men from the north to beat the racist conservative south into submission to give up their slaves.

Using modern labels to describe evens of over 150 years ago, is misleading and dishonest.


Which is why you did it.


Because you know that lying is the only way for modern liberals like yourself, to win an argument.

Oh?? You saying the Bible Belt wasn't conservative in the 1860's?

 

[Correll]

Republicans struggle to elect blacks to Congress. Electing one as president won't happen in this century.

I don't know why this is an issue for Democrats in the first place since they don't like conservatives anyway. If you don't like conservatives or conservative values, you're not going to like a black Republican. And if a black Republican does get nominated, it's unlikely he/she would be elected and Democrats would be largely responsible for this. The reason being because a lot of black Democrats already consider conservative blacks as sellouts and Uncle Toms.

All of this nonsense about black Republican presidential nominees is just farting in a hurricane. Speaking for myself, I don't care how many blacks the Republican party has. A black person will either choose to be Republican or not, I don't give a shit and I don't want some kind of quota. If the Republican party doesn't have what a black person wants, shut the fuck up and become a Democrat. Same goes for white people.

So a black Republican can't get elected without support from Democrats?

Thanks for admitting that many Republicans and conservatives are racist. I already knew that but it's nice to see your side admit it.

Colin Powell would have easily defeated Bill Clinton according to exit polls in 1996. I would have happily voted for him against Bill Clinton. Some of my republican friends were really big fans of his.

That not many blacks would likely have crossed party lines, would not have mattered, and actually, imo, would have been a good thing.

I don't know why Ghost thinks that a black republican candidate would not win, or could not win without black dem voters. But he is incorrect.

LOL

If he's incorrect, where is the black Republican president? ...

Colin Powell did not run because he did not have a "passion for politics". That is where the most recent chance of a black republican President went.


Can you blame him? You libs are fucking nightmares to deal with.

Take the log out of your eye, you rightards are also nightmares.

So, you admit it. THe primary reason that Colin Power did not run, was him not wanting the job.


Can you admit that he would have been a strong contender for the nomination, if he had run, as the polling showed?

I admitted nothing about Powell, ya flaming moron. I didn't follow Powell to know if he was or was not thinking about running; or if so, why not.

YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too".


That is an admission that you libs make the job not desirable.



You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?


LOL!!! Well, that is completely credible for a lib. I accept your defense of ignorance.


You can either trust me on this, or go read up on it, and get back to me when you are caught up. Plenty on this issue online.

Your call.

"YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too"."

So? Are you so blind you can't see both sides attack each other in the manner you only cry about the left?

"You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?"

You said he had no passion for politics. That's your idea of the most likely black Republican to get elected? Ever???

Do you even have an idea of how stupid you sound?

Dude. Your defense is ignorance. You've admitted to being ignorant on the subject.


Go educate yourself. It will only take a few minutes.

Colin Powell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Powell's experience in military matters made him a very popular figure with both American political parties. Many Democrats admired his moderate stance on military matters, while many Republicans saw him as a great asset associated with the successes of past Republican administrations. Put forth as a potential Democratic Vice Presidential nominee in the 1992 U.S. presidential election[43] or even potentially replacing Vice President Dan Quayle as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee,[44] Powell eventually declared himself a Republican and began to campaign for Republican candidates in 1995.[45][46] He was touted as a possible opponent of Bill Clinton in the 1996 U.S. presidential election, possibly capitalizing on a split conservative vote in Iowa[47] and even leading New Hampshire polls for the GOP nomination,[48] but Powell declined, citing a lack of passion for politics.[49] Powell defeated Clinton 50–38 in a hypothetical match-up proposed to voters in the exit polls conducted on Election Day.[50] Despite not standing in the race, Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.[51] "

LOLOLOL

Moron, you're literally claiming your best shot at electing a Black Republican is someone who never ran for office nor wanted to.

Exit polls showed him winning handily over Bill Clinton, as a Republican with the Republican voters very strongly supporting him.


That right there refutes the point of the op, ie that republicans are racist that is why no black republican presidents.

Exit polls are meaningless when the topic is someone who's not running.

Still -- you claim your best shot to get a black Republican as president is someone who didn't want the job.

Exit polls are the Gold Standard of polls. They ask the person who they would vote for minutes after the point of voting, and they only get data from voters.


The high numbers that Powell got, showed that Republicans were ready for a black President back in 1996, and considering the strength of the results, well before that.


That alone refutes the point of the op, that the lack of black Republican Presidents is caused by "racism".

I didn't say exit polls are meaningless -- I said that one question is meaningless. Saying you'd vote for someone who's not running doesn't actually prove Republicans would have elected a black.

When an absolute majority of voters, primary made of republicans say they would have voted for a black republican, it does.


And that refutes the point of the op.

LOL

Saying you will vote for someone who's not running means nothing since that still doesn't get a black Republican elected. You remain an abject imbecile.

It demonstrates that the Republican Party has been ready for a Black President, decades ago.


That is relevant to the discussion, when so many lefties like to pretend to believe that the reason for the lack of black republicans or black republican presidents, is gop racism.


Hard data shows that that is a race baiting lie, made by vile liars.

LOLOL

Suuure, numbnuts ... so how many Republicans' votes did Powell get?

Not the point and you know it.


Question: DId it shock you the first time you learned of the Exit Polls showing Powell winning vs Bill Clinton?

 

[Faun]

Republicans struggle to elect blacks to Congress. Electing one as president won't happen in this century.

I don't know why this is an issue for Democrats in the first place since they don't like conservatives anyway. If you don't like conservatives or conservative values, you're not going to like a black Republican. And if a black Republican does get nominated, it's unlikely he/she would be elected and Democrats would be largely responsible for this. The reason being because a lot of black Democrats already consider conservative blacks as sellouts and Uncle Toms.

All of this nonsense about black Republican presidential nominees is just farting in a hurricane. Speaking for myself, I don't care how many blacks the Republican party has. A black person will either choose to be Republican or not, I don't give a shit and I don't want some kind of quota. If the Republican party doesn't have what a black person wants, shut the fuck up and become a Democrat. Same goes for white people.

So a black Republican can't get elected without support from Democrats?

Thanks for admitting that many Republicans and conservatives are racist. I already knew that but it's nice to see your side admit it.

Colin Powell would have easily defeated Bill Clinton according to exit polls in 1996. I would have happily voted for him against Bill Clinton. Some of my republican friends were really big fans of his.

That not many blacks would likely have crossed party lines, would not have mattered, and actually, imo, would have been a good thing.

I don't know why Ghost thinks that a black republican candidate would not win, or could not win without black dem voters. But he is incorrect.

LOL

If he's incorrect, where is the black Republican president? ...

Colin Powell did not run because he did not have a "passion for politics". That is where the most recent chance of a black republican President went.


Can you blame him? You libs are fucking nightmares to deal with.

Take the log out of your eye, you rightards are also nightmares.

So, you admit it. THe primary reason that Colin Power did not run, was him not wanting the job.


Can you admit that he would have been a strong contender for the nomination, if he had run, as the polling showed?

I admitted nothing about Powell, ya flaming moron. I didn't follow Powell to know if he was or was not thinking about running; or if so, why not.

YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too".


That is an admission that you libs make the job not desirable.



You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?


LOL!!! Well, that is completely credible for a lib. I accept your defense of ignorance.


You can either trust me on this, or go read up on it, and get back to me when you are caught up. Plenty on this issue online.

Your call.

"YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too"."

So? Are you so blind you can't see both sides attack each other in the manner you only cry about the left?

"You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?"

You said he had no passion for politics. That's your idea of the most likely black Republican to get elected? Ever???

Do you even have an idea of how stupid you sound?

Dude. Your defense is ignorance. You've admitted to being ignorant on the subject.


Go educate yourself. It will only take a few minutes.

Colin Powell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Powell's experience in military matters made him a very popular figure with both American political parties. Many Democrats admired his moderate stance on military matters, while many Republicans saw him as a great asset associated with the successes of past Republican administrations. Put forth as a potential Democratic Vice Presidential nominee in the 1992 U.S. presidential election[43] or even potentially replacing Vice President Dan Quayle as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee,[44] Powell eventually declared himself a Republican and began to campaign for Republican candidates in 1995.[45][46] He was touted as a possible opponent of Bill Clinton in the 1996 U.S. presidential election, possibly capitalizing on a split conservative vote in Iowa[47] and even leading New Hampshire polls for the GOP nomination,[48] but Powell declined, citing a lack of passion for politics.[49] Powell defeated Clinton 50–38 in a hypothetical match-up proposed to voters in the exit polls conducted on Election Day.[50] Despite not standing in the race, Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.[51] "

LOLOLOL

Moron, you're literally claiming your best shot at electing a Black Republican is someone who never ran for office nor wanted to.

Exit polls showed him winning handily over Bill Clinton, as a Republican with the Republican voters very strongly supporting him.


That right there refutes the point of the op, ie that republicans are racist that is why no black republican presidents.

Exit polls are meaningless when the topic is someone who's not running.

Still -- you claim your best shot to get a black Republican as president is someone who didn't want the job.

Exit polls are the Gold Standard of polls. They ask the person who they would vote for minutes after the point of voting, and they only get data from voters.


The high numbers that Powell got, showed that Republicans were ready for a black President back in 1996, and considering the strength of the results, well before that.


That alone refutes the point of the op, that the lack of black Republican Presidents is caused by "racism".

I didn't say exit polls are meaningless -- I said that one question is meaningless. Saying you'd vote for someone who's not running doesn't actually prove Republicans would have elected a black.

When an absolute majority of voters, primary made of republicans say they would have voted for a black republican, it does.


And that refutes the point of the op.

LOL

Saying you will vote for someone who's not running means nothing since that still doesn't get a black Republican elected. You remain an abject imbecile.

It demonstrates that the Republican Party has been ready for a Black President, decades ago.


That is relevant to the discussion, when so many lefties like to pretend to believe that the reason for the lack of black republicans or black republican presidents, is gop racism.


Hard data shows that that is a race baiting lie, made by vile liars.

LOLOL

Suuure, numbnuts ... so how many Republicans' votes did Powell get?

Not the point and you know it.

That's exactly the point. You just don't like it. The south, regardless of political party, has always been more conservative than the north. The racist conservative south refused to give up their slaves and even tried to form their own slave nation, for which the north had to beat them into submission to remain a whole nation.

Question: DId it shock you the first time you learned of the Exit Polls showing Powell winning vs Bill Clinton?

Why are you asking me questions when you refuse to answer mine?

 

[Correll]

And yet NONE of that ended slavery, it took white people to grow up and accept man was the same no matter the color. And EVERY European Country outlawed slavery not because of a black uprising and not because of blacks speaking but because enough whites finally understood and voted it away. And it took a war In the US where whites fought to end slavery.

Actually, it took men from the north to beat the racist conservative south into submission to give up their slaves.

Using modern labels to describe evens of over 150 years ago, is misleading and dishonest.


Which is why you did it.


Because you know that lying is the only way for modern liberals like yourself, to win an argument.

Oh?? You saying the Bible Belt wasn't conservative in the 1860's?

I'm saying that pretending an unity between a political faction TODAY, and a group of people over a 150 years ago, is something only an dishonest hack would do.

That was my point. I made it. Are you going to address it now, or would you prefer to pretend to not understand it again?



Conservatives in America TODAY, are interesting in "conserving" THe Enlightenment Era principles of the Founding Fathers.


ANy pretense that that is not the case, is someone lying. Or being an ignorant fool, I guess...


No, it is someone lying. Anyone that stupid, could not figure out how to work a keyboard, or find their way out of their room.

 

[Correll]

Republicans struggle to elect blacks to Congress. Electing one as president won't happen in this century.

I don't know why this is an issue for Democrats in the first place since they don't like conservatives anyway. If you don't like conservatives or conservative values, you're not going to like a black Republican. And if a black Republican does get nominated, it's unlikely he/she would be elected and Democrats would be largely responsible for this. The reason being because a lot of black Democrats already consider conservative blacks as sellouts and Uncle Toms.

All of this nonsense about black Republican presidential nominees is just farting in a hurricane. Speaking for myself, I don't care how many blacks the Republican party has. A black person will either choose to be Republican or not, I don't give a shit and I don't want some kind of quota. If the Republican party doesn't have what a black person wants, shut the fuck up and become a Democrat. Same goes for white people.

So a black Republican can't get elected without support from Democrats?

Thanks for admitting that many Republicans and conservatives are racist. I already knew that but it's nice to see your side admit it.

Colin Powell would have easily defeated Bill Clinton according to exit polls in 1996. I would have happily voted for him against Bill Clinton. Some of my republican friends were really big fans of his.

That not many blacks would likely have crossed party lines, would not have mattered, and actually, imo, would have been a good thing.

I don't know why Ghost thinks that a black republican candidate would not win, or could not win without black dem voters. But he is incorrect.

LOL

If he's incorrect, where is the black Republican president? ...

Colin Powell did not run because he did not have a "passion for politics". That is where the most recent chance of a black republican President went.


Can you blame him? You libs are fucking nightmares to deal with.

Take the log out of your eye, you rightards are also nightmares.

So, you admit it. THe primary reason that Colin Power did not run, was him not wanting the job.


Can you admit that he would have been a strong contender for the nomination, if he had run, as the polling showed?

I admitted nothing about Powell, ya flaming moron. I didn't follow Powell to know if he was or was not thinking about running; or if so, why not.

YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too".


That is an admission that you libs make the job not desirable.



You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?


LOL!!! Well, that is completely credible for a lib. I accept your defense of ignorance.


You can either trust me on this, or go read up on it, and get back to me when you are caught up. Plenty on this issue online.

Your call.

"YOur defense to "you libs make the job not a good choice" was, "you too"."

So? Are you so blind you can't see both sides attack each other in the manner you only cry about the left?

"You choose to enter a thread on Black Republican Presidents while being ignorant on the most likely to get elected potential candidate ever?"

You said he had no passion for politics. That's your idea of the most likely black Republican to get elected? Ever???

Do you even have an idea of how stupid you sound?

Dude. Your defense is ignorance. You've admitted to being ignorant on the subject.


Go educate yourself. It will only take a few minutes.

Colin Powell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Powell's experience in military matters made him a very popular figure with both American political parties. Many Democrats admired his moderate stance on military matters, while many Republicans saw him as a great asset associated with the successes of past Republican administrations. Put forth as a potential Democratic Vice Presidential nominee in the 1992 U.S. presidential election[43] or even potentially replacing Vice President Dan Quayle as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee,[44] Powell eventually declared himself a Republican and began to campaign for Republican candidates in 1995.[45][46] He was touted as a possible opponent of Bill Clinton in the 1996 U.S. presidential election, possibly capitalizing on a split conservative vote in Iowa[47] and even leading New Hampshire polls for the GOP nomination,[48] but Powell declined, citing a lack of passion for politics.[49] Powell defeated Clinton 50–38 in a hypothetical match-up proposed to voters in the exit polls conducted on Election Day.[50] Despite not standing in the race, Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.[51] "

LOLOLOL

Moron, you're literally claiming your best shot at electing a Black Republican is someone who never ran for office nor wanted to.

Exit polls showed him winning handily over Bill Clinton, as a Republican with the Republican voters very strongly supporting him.


That right there refutes the point of the op, ie that republicans are racist that is why no black republican presidents.

Exit polls are meaningless when the topic is someone who's not running.

Still -- you claim your best shot to get a black Republican as president is someone who didn't want the job.

Exit polls are the Gold Standard of polls. They ask the person who they would vote for minutes after the point of voting, and they only get data from voters.


The high numbers that Powell got, showed that Republicans were ready for a black President back in 1996, and considering the strength of the results, well before that.


That alone refutes the point of the op, that the lack of black Republican Presidents is caused by "racism".

I didn't say exit polls are meaningless -- I said that one question is meaningless. Saying you'd vote for someone who's not running doesn't actually prove Republicans would have elected a black.

When an absolute majority of voters, primary made of republicans say they would have voted for a black republican, it does.


And that refutes the point of the op.

LOL

Saying you will vote for someone who's not running means nothing since that still doesn't get a black Republican elected. You remain an abject imbecile.

It demonstrates that the Republican Party has been ready for a Black President, decades ago.


That is relevant to the discussion, when so many lefties like to pretend to believe that the reason for the lack of black republicans or black republican presidents, is gop racism.


Hard data shows that that is a race baiting lie, made by vile liars.

LOLOL

Suuure, numbnuts ... so how many Republicans' votes did Powell get?

Not the point and you know it.

That's exactly the point. You just don't like it. The south, regardless of political party, has always been more conservative than the north. The racist conservative south refused to give up their slaves and even tried to form their own slave nation, for which the north had to beat them into submission to remain a whole nation.

Question: DId it shock you the first time you learned of the Exit Polls showing Powell winning vs Bill Clinton?

Why are you asking me questions when you refuse to answer mine?

Because I did answer yours. I pointed out that that was not the point. That is my answer.


My question to you stands.

DId it shock you the first time you learned of the Exit Polls showing Powell winning vs Bill Clinton?

 

[Faun]

And yet NONE of that ended slavery, it took white people to grow up and accept man was the same no matter the color. And EVERY European Country outlawed slavery not because of a black uprising and not because of blacks speaking but because enough whites finally understood and voted it away. And it took a war In the US where whites fought to end slavery.

Actually, it took men from the north to beat the racist conservative south into submission to give up their slaves.

Using modern labels to describe evens of over 150 years ago, is misleading and dishonest.


Which is why you did it.


Because you know that lying is the only way for modern liberals like yourself, to win an argument.

Oh?? You saying the Bible Belt wasn't conservative in the 1860's?

I'm saying that pretending an unity between a political faction TODAY, and a group of people over a 150 years ago, is something only an dishonest hack would do.

That was my point. I made it. Are you going to address it now, or would you prefer to pretend to not understand it again?



Conservatives in America TODAY, are interesting in "conserving" THe Enlightenment Era principles of the Founding Fathers.


ANy pretense that that is not the case, is someone lying. Or being an ignorant fool, I guess...


No, it is someone lying. Anyone that stupid, could not figure out how to work a keyboard, or find their way out of their room.

Try following the bouncing ball ... I didn't say they were Conservatives -- I said they were conservative. Which they were no matter how much that pisses you off.