The Earth naturally goes through Hot and cold cycles. Without input from Humans.!

[52ndStreet]

I hear a lot of people talking about Human global warming. I ask them are they aware that the Earth has been going through Hot and cold cycles for billions of years, without any human input what so ever!!? There where times millions of years ago when the entire Earth was very tropical, and hot. And also times when a lot of the Earth was covered by ice.!?! We must stop accepting this Human global warming scam, that is being reported by these carbon tax scammers.!!??

 

[jackflash]

I hear a lot of people talking about Human global warming. I ask them are they aware that the Earth has been going through Hot and cold cycles for billions of years, without any human input what so ever!!? There where times millions of years ago when the entire Earth was very tropical, and hot. And also times when a lot of the Earth was covered by ice.!?! We must stop accepting this Human global warming scam, that is being reported by these carbon tax scammers.!!??

One must realize that climate change is the holy grail to the statist left marxinazis. Back in the 60's & early 70's the enviro whackos were focused on the global COOLING scare but around '75-'77 their focus started shifting towards Glow-Ball warming as the enviro whackos seen more $$$$$ with the warmie scam than the frosty scam.

The statist left marxinazis; don't leave sanity without them!

 

[Dante]

The Earth naturally goes through Hot and cold cycles. Without input from Humans.!​

Climate scientists are not unaware that people like you are out there.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

I hear a lot of people talking about Human global warming. I ask them are they aware that the Earth has been going through Hot and cold cycles for billions of years, without any human input what so ever!!? There where times millions of years ago when the entire Earth was very tropical, and hot. And also times when a lot of the Earth was covered by ice.!?! We must stop accepting this Human global warming scam, that is being reported by these carbon tax scammers.!!??

It's a money grab, "climate change" is the scam of today's hi-tech gypsie's who used to pull into drought ridden towns in covered wagons selling rain making gadgets to the unwitting rubes but now jet set around the world fleecing the wealthy because tax cuts have defunded their resources.

 

[alang1216]

I hear a lot of people talking about Human global warming. I ask them are they aware that the Earth has been going through Hot and cold cycles for billions of years, without any human input what so ever!!? There where times millions of years ago when the entire Earth was very tropical, and hot. And also times when a lot of the Earth was covered by ice.!?! We must stop accepting this Human global warming scam, that is being reported by these carbon tax scammers.!!??

I've never understood why people like you care so much why the Earth is warming? Seems to me that if it is, for whatever reason, we need to understand it and take measures to mitigate its effects. Extinction may be perfectly natural but that doesn't make it desirable.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I hear a lot of people talking about Human global warming. I ask them are they aware that the Earth has been going through Hot and cold cycles for billions of years, without any human input what so ever!!? There where times millions of years ago when the entire Earth was very tropical, and hot. And also times when a lot of the Earth was covered by ice.!?! We must stop accepting this Human global warming scam, that is being reported by these carbon tax scammers.!!??

There are various issues.

One is the 100,000 year cycle that shows 120,000 years ago and at other periods in the last 400,000 years we've been hotter than now, for a "short" period of time.

Another is, we live on this planet and need to make sure it's livable for humans. If it's not, we're screwed.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I hear a lot of people talking about Human global warming. I ask them are they aware that the Earth has been going through Hot and cold cycles for billions of years, without any human input what so ever!!? There where times millions of years ago when the entire Earth was very tropical, and hot. And also times when a lot of the Earth was covered by ice.!?! We must stop accepting this Human global warming scam, that is being reported by these carbon tax scammers.!!??

Wow!!

Have you told the people who discovered and taught you that? Won't they be surprised!

 

[ReinyDays]

There are better reasons to curtail our fossil fuel use ... like saving money ... but if you like taxes, pay away for all I care ...

 

[ding]

I hear a lot of people talking about Human global warming. I ask them are they aware that the Earth has been going through Hot and cold cycles for billions of years, without any human input what so ever!!? There where times millions of years ago when the entire Earth was very tropical, and hot. And also times when a lot of the Earth was covered by ice.!?! We must stop accepting this Human global warming scam, that is being reported by these carbon tax scammers.!!??

Glacial cycles began about 3 million years ago and coincided with bipolar glaciation and driven by the climate of the Arctic which is driven by the distribution of heat by ocean currents (AMOC switch on/off). There have been 30+ cycles since that time.

 

[ding]

I've never understood why people like you care so much why the Earth is warming? Seems to me that if it is, for whatever reason, we need to understand it and take measures to mitigate its effects. Extinction may be perfectly natural but that doesn't make it desirable.

Why do you believe the why doesn't matter?

 

[alang1216]

Why do you believe the why doesn't matter?

If sea levels rise it will be a catastrophe regardless of whether it is natural or man-made.

 

[ding]

If sea levels rise it will be a catastrophe regardless of whether it is natural or man-made.

I don't think a warmer planet is catastrophic. I think a colder planet is catastrophic. And it's not really even close.

 

[alang1216]

I don't think a warmer planet is catastrophic. I think a colder planet is catastrophic. And it's not really even close.

My gut tells me you're exactly wrong. On a colder planet there will be much more arable land for farming as sea levels fall. The opposite will happen on a warmer planet and, on top of that, with a warmer ocean, storms will be more intense.

 

[luiza]

I hear a lot of people talking about Human global warming. I ask them are they aware that the Earth has been going through Hot and cold cycles for billions of years, without any human input what so ever!!? There where times millions of years ago when the entire Earth was very tropical, and hot. And also times when a lot of the Earth was covered by ice.!?! We must stop accepting this Human global warming scam, that is being reported by these carbon tax scammers.!!??

Do not letCrack Crock find this .
She will be mortified to hear this cutting edge theory .

 

[ding]

My gut tells me you're exactly wrong. On a colder planet there will be much more arable land for farming as sea levels fall. The opposite will happen on a warmer planet and, on top of that, with a warmer ocean, storms will be more intense.

You don't understand. In the last 1 million years, 900,000 of those years had thousands of feet of ice covering all of Canada, NE US, Midwest US, northern Europe and northern Asia. Today that would displace at least 250 million people. Property losses would be in the thousands of trillions of dollars. Temperatures would be 12C colder than today. The ocean would suck up CO2 such that the planet would become dangerously close the the minimum threshold for plants to survive.

The planet's landmass (both polar regions thermally isolated from warm marine currents) is uniquely configured for frigid temperatures. That's why the planet cooled for millions of years with atmospheric CO2 of 600ppm to 1000 ppm.

The planet's climate is driven by how the ocean distributes heat around the planet. The landmass configuration and ocean currents are what control the climate of the planet; not the atmosphere. The vast majority of heat is stored in the oceans. The ocean contains 1000 times more heat than the atmosphere. The mass of the ocean is 300 times the mass of the atmosphere.

If you study the temperature record of the past 50 million years you cannot help but see that the planet has been cooling and that this cooling accelerated 3 to 5 million years ago such that our planet is now considered to be an icehouse planet.

I don't know how anyone can argue the risk of a warmer world is greater than the risk of a colder world. That applies to the likelihood of the event and the magnitude of the event.

 

[alang1216]

You don't understand. In the last 1 million years, 900,000 of those years had thousands of feet of ice covering all of Canada, NE US, Midwest US, northern Europe and northern Asia. Today that would displace at least 250 million people. Property losses would be in the thousands of trillions of dollars. Temperatures would be 12C colder than today. The ocean would suck up CO2 such that the planet would become dangerously close the the minimum threshold for plants to survive.

The planet's landmass (both polar regions thermally isolated from warm marine currents) is uniquely configured for frigid temperatures. That's why the planet cooled for millions of years with atmospheric CO2 of 600ppm to 1000 ppm.

The planet's climate is driven by how the ocean distributes heat around the planet. The landmass configuration and ocean currents are what control the climate of the planet; not the atmosphere. The vast majority of heat is stored in the oceans. The ocean contains 1000 times more heat than the atmosphere. The mass of the ocean is 300 times the mass of the atmosphere.

If you study the temperature record of the past 50 million years you cannot help but see that the planet has been cooling and that this cooling accelerated 3 to 5 million years ago such that our planet is now considered to be an icehouse planet.

I don't know how anyone can argue the risk of a warmer world is greater than the risk of a colder world. That applies to the likelihood of the event and the magnitude of the event.

Ice sheets would take thousands of years to form and temperatures would also takes centuries to get to that 12 C number. Until that happens that effects of cooling would be slowly falling sea levels and milder weather patterns. We can adapt to those much easier than the reverse. We just need to ensure we don't artificially heat the planet so we have time to adapt to what follows.

 

[ding]

Ice sheets would take thousands of years to form and temperatures would also takes centuries to get to that 12 C number. Until that happens that effects of cooling would be slowly falling sea levels and milder weather patterns. We can adapt to those much easier than the reverse. We just need to ensure we don't artificially heat the planet so we have time to adapt to what follows.

Glacial events are abrupt. The impact will be felt within the first winter. Within 10 years the impact will be significant. It's not like how it is with AGW. There will be no denying it. They will easily connect the dots and no one will dispute it. That's how fast it happens and that's how impactful it will be. But to your point, yes we are probably talking about a hundred years for what I previously described.

What will happen to the UK if the Gulf Stream collapses in 2025?

In The Day After Tomorrow, characters are frozen under layers of snow. But what would actually happen here in the UK if the Gulf Stream collapsed?

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[alang1216]

Glacial events are abrupt. The impact will be felt within the first winter. Within 10 years the impact will be significant. It's not like how it is with AGW. There will be no denying it. They will easily connect the dots and no one will dispute it. That's how fast it happens and that's how impactful it will be. But to your point, yes we are probably talking about a hundred years for what I previously described.

What will happen to the UK if the Gulf Stream collapses in 2025?

In The Day After Tomorrow, characters are frozen under layers of snow. But what would actually happen here in the UK if the Gulf Stream collapsed?

www.dailymail.co.uk

I think you're showing the Chicken Little syndrome. For a mile of ice to accumulate over Canada in 100 years it would have to snow enough that, at the end of summer, there would be an additional 50 feet of snow going into winter every year. A pretty dramatic change as, except for the Rockies, there is zero snow there at the end of summer.

 

[ding]

I think you're showing the Chicken Little syndrome. For a mile of ice to accumulate over Canada in 100 years it would have to snow enough that, at the end of summer, there would be an additional 50 feet of snow going into winter every year. A pretty dramatic change as, except for the Rockies, there is zero snow there at the end of summer.

It's so well understood and commonly known Dave Borlace did a video on it.



I would have thought the link I provided to you earlier would have been enough.

 

[alang1216]

It's so well understood and commonly known Dave Borlace did a video on it.



I would have thought the link I provided to you earlier would have been enough.

So what do we do about it?