The Democrat's and Some on the Left's problem w/Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

[citygator]

My problems with her is that she doesn't seem particularly knowledgeable. Now, that's true of a lot of Congress-critters, but she has this lovely habit of saying really stupid things.

My other problem with her is that she's from the Crazy Bernie-Bro faction of the party that thinks Socialism is a good thing.

To whit,

I see Capitalism like a pit bull. It has its uses under the right circumstances.

The Republicans want to let it run amok in the neighborhood, and it it mauls your kid, than it's your own fault for getting in its way.

The Bernie Bros like AOC want to take it out into the woods and shoot it like Old Yeller.

I want that dog on a leash with a muzzle and sent to obedience school.

Nice analogy I like it and may steal it.

 

[JoeB131]

Can you cite an example of something that she said that wasn't particularly knowledge-based? Any stupid things she's' said?

Lastly, can you cite any anti-Capitalist quote from her?

I really have much better things to do than prove water is wet... but here you go.

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[CowboyTed]

Earlier this week I had an exchange w/a fellow USMB poster I believe is generally on the left and they expressed having a problem w/Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

However, when prompted to get to the bottom of their reasons, the response was nothing more than fluff.

Personally, I love everything she stands for and she represents her constituents well, and they support her.

This is to/for those of us on the left, including Democrats, what, if any, are your problems w/Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?

Let's get to the bottom of if.

I generally have no problem with AOC.. She is fighting a good corner...

I would suggest instead pointing Sweden or Norway for solutions she should point to Germany... Germany has a great economy and all the social programs of Sweden.. They are also 4 times the size of Sweden and considered the leaders of Europe.. They are an easier sell to the US people...

 

[MarcATL]

I generally have no problem with AOC.. She is fighting a good corner...

I would suggest instead pointing Sweden or Norway for solutions she should point to Germany... Germany has a great economy and all the social programs of Sweden.. They are also 4 times the size of Sweden and considered the leaders of Europe.. They are an easier sell to the US people...

Americans are extremely simple-minded, contrary to what they see themselves to be.

I suspect Germany is associated w/the Holocaust in most of their minds.

Interesting idea though, you may be on to something.

 

[krichton]

Earlier this week I had an exchange w/a fellow USMB poster I believe is generally on the left and they expressed having a problem w/Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

However, when prompted to get to the bottom of their reasons, the response was nothing more than fluff.

Personally, I love everything she stands for and she represents her constituents well, and they support her.

This is to/for those of us on the left, including Democrats, what, if any, are your problems w/Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?

Let's get to the bottom of if.

I have a huge problem with her virtually ignoring the asian community when elderly asians were being attacked on a regular basis to the tune of an astounding 3800 attacks. As far as I could tell, she made two tweets about asian hate in Feb and March of last year and then never brought it up again. I find this quite troubling since her district in queens has a huge asian community, but also because of who she is. The optics of this are horrible. You know if elderly hispanics were being targeted she'd be screaming at the top of her lungs 24/7. This reeks of favoritism to me from someone is supposed to be the most progressive politician in congress.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I have a huge problem with her virtually ignoring the asian community when elderly asians were being attacked on a regular basis to the tune of an astounding 3800 attacks. As far as I could tell, she made two tweets about asian hate in Feb and March of last year and then never brought it up again. I find this quite troubling since her district in queens has a huge asian community, but also because of who she is. The optics of this are horrible. You know if elderly hispanics were being targeted she'd be screaming at the top of her lungs 24/7. This reeks of favoritism to me from someone is supposed to be the most progressive politician in congress.

She's as racist as anybody.

 

[MarcATL]

I really have much better things to do than prove water is wet... but here you go.

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A few of the quotes from your first link...
“You don’t have to be perfect, but you do have to be 100% committed.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez announces 'self-care' break before congressional session even starts- NY Daily News
Tagged: Commitment, The Squad
“There is so much fear and hate. We must negate it with active, courageous love.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Tweet March 15 2019
Tagged: Fear, Hate, The Squad
“Hope is not something that you have. Hope is something that you create, with your actions.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, When Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez met Greta Thunberg: 'Hope is contagious'
Tagged: Hope, The Squad
“There is no such thing as talking about class without there being implications of the racial history of the United States. You just can’t do it.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Meet the 28-Year-Old at the Center of One of This Year’s Most Exciting Primaries
Tagged: Race, American History, The Squad
“There is nothing radical about moral clarity. ”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, AOC on Twitter
Tagged: Moral, Ethics, Being Right, Focus, The Squad
“Words will never be enough to express my gratitude.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, AOC on Instagram
Tagged: How To Say Thank You, Thank You Notes, Gratitude, No Words, The Squad

“We can be whatever we have the courage to be.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, A Message From the Future With Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Tagged: Courage, The Squad

“Fear is not a plan, but courage is.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, USA: 'Fear is not a plan, but courage is'- Ocasio-Cortez at SXSW
Tagged: Fear, Courage, The Squad
“The biggest hurdle that our communities have is cynicism - saying it's a done deal, who cares; there's no point to voting. If we can get somebody to care, it's a huge victory for the movement and the causes we're trying to advance.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Quotes
Tagged: Cynicism, Hurdle, Community, who cares, voting, victory, Cause, Empowering, Advocate, The Squad
“I’ve always felt that elections should be joyous, celebratory events.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter
Tagged: The Squad
“Capitalism has not always existed in the world and will not always exist in the world.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Quotes
Tagged: Capitalism, The World, Economy, Socialism, Politics
“People tell you things. And they tell you what they believe. And they tell you what they want for themselves, for you, they tell you their stories.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Will Push Washington. Will Washington Push Back?
Tagged: People Telling You Things, The Squad
“It is the duty of the Federal Government to create a Green New Deal.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Recognizing the duty of the Federal Government to create a Green New Deal
Tagged: The Squad
“Give people the respect of your honest opinion, and always meet them where they’re at.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, AOC on Twitter
Tagged: Respect, honest opinion, The Squad
“Our goal is to leave no person behind as we venture into a secure and better future.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, AOC on Instagram
Tagged: no child left behind, No Person Left Behind, Goals For American Politics In Late 2010s, The Squad
“How in the world can we pay for this? The answer is: in the same ways that we paid for the 2008 bank bailout and extended quantitative easing programs, the same ways we paid for World War II and many other wars.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, DRAFT TEXT FOR PROPOSED ADDENDUM TO HOUSE RULES FOR 116TH CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES
Tagged: A Different Kind Of War, Economic Issues, The Squad
“I have three months without a salary before I’m a member of Congress. So, how do I get an apartment? Those little things are very real.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Will Push Washington. Will Washington Push Back?
Tagged: Member of Congress, The Squad
“We have built power. We have organized. What we have built is permanent. No. Matter. What.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, AOC on Twitter
Tagged: Power, The Squad
“For me, democratic socialism is about - really, the value for me is that I believe that in a modern, moral, and wealthy society, no person in America should be too poor to live.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Quotes
Tagged: Democratic Socialism, Value, Modern, Moral, wealthy, Society, poor, Low-Income, Visionary, The Squad
“I wake up every day, and I'm a Puerto Rican girl from the Bronx. Every single day.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Quotes
Tagged: Bronx, New York City, Puerto Rican, Roots, Wake Up, Identity, The Squad
“I used to be much more cynical about how much was up against us. I think I’ve changed my mind. Because I think that change is a lot closer than we think.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 'Change Is Closer Than We Think.' Inside Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Unlikely Rise
Tagged: Political Change, The Squad
“I'm not running from the left; I'm running from the bottom. I'm running in fierce advocacy for working-class New Yorkers.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Quotes
Tagged: Left, Democrat, Bottom, Low-Income, Working Class, New York City, Advocate, Inspirational
“New York has one of the most oppressive political machine in the United States.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Meet the 28-Year-Old at the Center of One of This Year’s Most Exciting Primaries
Tagged: New York City, New York Politics
“Women like me aren't supposed to run for office—I wasn't born to a wealthy or powerful family. But we have to ask ourselves who has New York been changing for?”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, The Courage to Change | Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
“This nation is never beyond remedy, it is never beyond hope, it is never too broken to fix. We will be here, and we are going to rock the world for the next two years.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ocasio-Cortez Wins Democratic Primary, Upsets U.S. Rep. Crowley- Queens County Politics
“This is not an end, this is the beginning. This is the beginning because the message that we sent the world tonight is that it's not OK to put donors before your community.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, A 28-year-old Democratic Socialist just ousted a powerful, 10-term congressman in New York
Tagged: American Politics, Fundraising In Politics, The Squad
“In my opinion, if women and gender-expanding people want to run for office we can’t knock on anybody's doors, we have to build our own house.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
“I believe that every American should have stable, dignified housing; health care; education — that the most very basic needs to sustain modern life should be guaranteed in a moral society.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Meet the 28-Year-Old at the Center of One of This Year’s Most Exciting Primaries
Tagged: Belief Systems, American Politics
“Our planet is going to hit disaster if we don’t turn this ship around and so it’s basically like, there’s a scientific consensus that the lives of children are going to be very difficult.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ocasio-Cortez asks if climate change means we should stop having kids
Tagged: The Squad
“Sometimes political media is too fixated on personalities instead of policies.”
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, AOC on Twitter
Tagged: Politics, American Political Media, The Squad

Nothing stands out as being particular dumb, radical or anything negative.

As for your second link, I can't believe you're peddling claptrap like that. You're better than this Joe.

Bottom line, she's not said anything dumber than your favorite politician. Her quote on personalities stands out to me as being relevant to you.

I hope you reconsider.

 

[MarcATL]

I have a huge problem with her virtually ignoring the asian community when elderly asians were being attacked on a regular basis to the tune of an astounding 3800 attacks. As far as I could tell, she made two tweets about asian hate in Feb and March of last year and then never brought it up again. I find this quite troubling since her district in queens has a huge asian community, but also because of who she is. The optics of this are horrible. You know if elderly hispanics were being targeted she'd be screaming at the top of her lungs 24/7. This reeks of favoritism to me from someone is supposed to be the most progressive politician in congress.

This is fair criticism.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You are shouting at the rain. Try it and see if it stops raining. Being born into poverty isn’t a child’s fault even if you want to blame the parent. Half or SNAP (food stamps) recipients are kids. Children. What do you do? Cut out their $8 food allowance? 92% of SNAP are families with kids, the elderly, or disabled living in poverty in the US, all citizens (tiny fraction legal immigrants - no illegals) and since 1996 have strict work requirements.

Are you really so pissed at these people (old, sick, and children) you want to cut off $8 because you think it keeps their care takers from working? I don’t think you look at data. I think like most republicans you hold an emotional position that everyone poor is lazy, living a lavish government supported life and should be able to lift themselves out - not supported by data.

Someone born into poverty, raised in poverty, and in a country that thinks it’s the most opportunistic place on the plant will likely stay in poverty. 40% of kids spent at least a year in poverty. That’s a systemic problem resulting from 90% of families having virtually no wealth and unable to survive a family emergency like unemployment or health crisis.

Why should you pay for those people? Because most of us would pay for you if you were born there. Luckily you weren’t through no effort of your own. Or luckily your parents were the minuscule number who live in poverty and get their kids to college.

I ll keep shouting because throwing money at the problem isn’t fixing it.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

Earlier this week I had an exchange w/a fellow USMB poster I believe is generally on the left and they expressed having a problem w/Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

However, when prompted to get to the bottom of their reasons, the response was nothing more than fluff.

Personally, I love everything she stands for and she represents her constituents well, and they support her.

This is to/for those of us on the left, including Democrats, what, if any, are your problems w/Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?

Let's get to the bottom of if.

Her constituents love her and that's all that matters.

 

[Oldestyle]

Earlier this week I had an exchange w/a fellow USMB poster I believe is generally on the left and they expressed having a problem w/Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

However, when prompted to get to the bottom of their reasons, the response was nothing more than fluff.

Personally, I love everything she stands for and she represents her constituents well, and they support her.

This is to/for those of us on the left, including Democrats, what, if any, are your problems w/Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?

Let's get to the bottom of if.

My biggest problem with AOC is we both have degrees from the same University and she devalues mine each and every time she opens her mouth. How she ever graduated with a degree in Economics and yet is so utterly clueless about basic Economic theory utterly mystifies me!

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Her constituents love her and that's all that matters.

Don't ever let me catch you shrieking about the loyalty of those who support President Trump.

 

[citygator]

I ll keep shouting because throwing money at the problem isn’t fixing it.

Deep thoughts from Jack Handy. You get the ostrich head in the sand award.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Deep thoughts from Jack Handy. You get the ostrich head in sand award.

Ditto. Democrats have been throwing money at the problem for my entire life (41 yrs) and nothing has changed. Single motherhood rates are actually rising. Welfare isn’t the answer. Too bad you’re too stupid to see that. I refuse to support anyone from any party that just throws money at those who make bad decisions.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Her constituents love her and that's all that matters.

That is true and what makes America great.

 

[citygator]

Ditto. Democrats have been throwing money at the problem for my entire life (41 yrs) and nothing has changed. Single motherhood rates are actually rising. Welfare isn’t the answer. Too bad you’re too stupid to see that. I refuse to support anyone from any party that just throws money at those who make bad decisions.

You don’t address any of the issues. It’s so typical that as I lay out a very detailed fact based discussion of our situation you’ve chosen to virtue signal you ass into a corner. Who fucking cares what you feel? There are 10M children in poverty right now and 20M that will be in and out over the next 2 years. A lecture from you does Jack shit.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You don’t address any of the issues. It’s so typical that as I lay out a very detailed fact based discussion of our situation you’ve chosen to virtue signal you ass into a corner. Who fucking cares what you feel? There are 10M children in poverty right now and 20M that will be in and out over the next 2 years. A lecture from you does Jack shit.

And why is that? Bad decisions. So you ll throw money at it and they ll still be in poverty. How about people don’t have kids if they can’t afford them Vs relying on the Govt aka the taxpayer to bail them out. Responsibility is on them not on me. Want to Build Back Better, then throw money at finding a solution. I d rather pay people not to have kids than pay them to have them and have the cycle keep repeating itself. This is why you are a failure as a person and as a C Level executive. You just don’t get it.

 

[BS Filter]

No. I'm not faulting anyone for traveling now. I'm talking in the very beginning of the pandemic. When Ted Cruz went to Mexico.

Of course.

 

[bendog]

My biggest problem with AOC is we both have degrees from the same University and she devalues mine each and every time she opens her mouth. How she ever graduated with a degree in Economics and yet is so utterly clueless about basic Economic theory utterly mystifies me!

A professor told me that Marx was a superior economist but a shitty judge of human nature. LOL

 

[hadit]

AOC is fire. Whoever lands her of any pronouns is one lucky “they”.

Until they get super tired of hearing her talk.