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I'm pretty sure we're due for another raise in the debt ceiling in March 2017. If someone knows better, please post it.

Will Trump refuse to raise it? Will Congress refuse to raise it? Will Ted Cruz take a stand, or take a knee (or two)?
 
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So I guess now that a Republican is president, we're back to the Bush Era,

where the debt doesn't matter?
 

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So I guess now that a Republican is president, we're back to the Bush Era,

where the debt doesn't matter?
If that's the case, good for you. That seems exactly what you believe in.
 

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So I guess now that a Republican is president, we're back to the Bush Era,

where the debt doesn't matter?
He's not been sworn in yet, nor has the new congress. You seem to want to forget the Obama years already.
 
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So I guess now that a Republican is president, we're back to the Bush Era,

where the debt doesn't matter?
He's not been sworn in yet, nor has the new congress. You seem to want to forget the Obama years already.
The debt ceiling crisis was during the Obama years. I want to know if anyone still cares about the debt ceiling.
 

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I'm pretty sure we're due for another raise in the debt ceiling in March 2017. If someone knows better, please post it.

Will Trump refuse to raise it? Will Congress refuse to raise it? Will Ted Cruz take a stand, or take a knee (or two)?
Yes March 2017, the debt ceiling is suspended until then.

IMHO The most likely scenario is the re-emergence of the "Grand Bargain" on cutting spending and tax reform (or something very similar to it) that Obama wanted to cut with Boehner in 2011 but got nixed because the extremes of the Democrat and Republican bases went ballistic.

I'd imagine it'll be the first test of Trump's "negotiating skills" since he'll still have to contend with the House Freedom Caucus, we'll see if he's as good as a negotiator as he claims he is.
 
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I'm pretty sure we're due for another raise in the debt ceiling in March 2017. If someone knows better, please post it.

Will Trump refuse to raise it? Will Congress refuse to raise it? Will Ted Cruz take a stand, or take a knee (or two)?
Yes March 2017, the debt ceiling is suspended until then.

IMHO The most likely scenario is the re-emergence of the "Grand Bargain" on cutting spending and tax reform (or something very similar to it) that Obama wanted to cut with Boehner in 2011 but got nixed because the extremes of the Democrat and Republican bases went ballistic.

I'd imagine it'll be the first test of Trump's "negotiating skills" since he'll still have to contend with the House Freedom Caucus, we'll see if he's as good as a negotiator as he claims he is.
Trump wants a trillion dollar infrastructure program. And massive tax cuts. And massive increases in military spending.

There is no math in the universe that can make that work without ballooning the deficits.
 

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So I guess now that a Republican is president, we're back to the Bush Era,

where the debt doesn't matter?
He's not been sworn in yet, nor has the new congress. You seem to want to forget the Obama years already.
The debt ceiling crisis was during the Obama years. I want to know if anyone still cares about the debt ceiling.
Of course they do.
Enough to oppose the spending that Trump wants?
 

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I'm pretty sure we're due for another raise in the debt ceiling in March 2017. If someone knows better, please post it.

Will Trump refuse to raise it? Will Congress refuse to raise it? Will Ted Cruz take a stand, or take a knee (or two)?
Yes March 2017, the debt ceiling is suspended until then.

IMHO The most likely scenario is the re-emergence of the "Grand Bargain" on cutting spending and tax reform (or something very similar to it) that Obama wanted to cut with Boehner in 2011 but got nixed because the extremes of the Democrat and Republican bases went ballistic.

I'd imagine it'll be the first test of Trump's "negotiating skills" since he'll still have to contend with the House Freedom Caucus, we'll see if he's as good as a negotiator as he claims he is.
Trump wants a trillion dollar infrastructure program. And massive tax cuts. And massive increases in military spending.

There is no math in the universe that can make that work without ballooning the deficits.

Huckster will just print more money, and his bots will just degrade Obama because he didnt think of that
 

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I'm pretty sure we're due for another raise in the debt ceiling in March 2017. If someone knows better, please post it.

Will Trump refuse to raise it? Will Congress refuse to raise it? Will Ted Cruz take a stand, or take a knee (or two)?
Yes March 2017, the debt ceiling is suspended until then.

IMHO The most likely scenario is the re-emergence of the "Grand Bargain" on cutting spending and tax reform (or something very similar to it) that Obama wanted to cut with Boehner in 2011 but got nixed because the extremes of the Democrat and Republican bases went ballistic.

I'd imagine it'll be the first test of Trump's "negotiating skills" since he'll still have to contend with the House Freedom Caucus, we'll see if he's as good as a negotiator as he claims he is.
Trump wants a trillion dollar infrastructure program. And massive tax cuts. And massive increases in military spending.

There is no math in the universe that can make that work without ballooning the deficits.
So I guess now that a Republican is president, we're back to the Bush Era,

where the debt doesn't matter?
He's not been sworn in yet, nor has the new congress. You seem to want to forget the Obama years already.
The debt ceiling crisis was during the Obama years. I want to know if anyone still cares about the debt ceiling.
Of course they do.
Enough to oppose the spending that Trump wants?
That remains to be seen. Congress, however, has a horrible track record in this regard. The last time someone wanted to reduce spending instead of borrowing more, he was ridiculed, lambasted, criticized, and accused of being a bad person.
 
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I'm pretty sure we're due for another raise in the debt ceiling in March 2017. If someone knows better, please post it.

Will Trump refuse to raise it? Will Congress refuse to raise it? Will Ted Cruz take a stand, or take a knee (or two)?
Yes March 2017, the debt ceiling is suspended until then.

IMHO The most likely scenario is the re-emergence of the "Grand Bargain" on cutting spending and tax reform (or something very similar to it) that Obama wanted to cut with Boehner in 2011 but got nixed because the extremes of the Democrat and Republican bases went ballistic.

I'd imagine it'll be the first test of Trump's "negotiating skills" since he'll still have to contend with the House Freedom Caucus, we'll see if he's as good as a negotiator as he claims he is.
Trump wants a trillion dollar infrastructure program. And massive tax cuts. And massive increases in military spending.

There is no math in the universe that can make that work without ballooning the deficits.

Huckster will just print more money, and his bots will just degrade Obama because he didnt think of that
The trillion dollar coin? Remember that?
 

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I'm pretty sure we're due for another raise in the debt ceiling in March 2017. If someone knows better, please post it.

Will Trump refuse to raise it? Will Congress refuse to raise it? Will Ted Cruz take a stand, or take a knee (or two)?
Yes March 2017, the debt ceiling is suspended until then.

IMHO The most likely scenario is the re-emergence of the "Grand Bargain" on cutting spending and tax reform (or something very similar to it) that Obama wanted to cut with Boehner in 2011 but got nixed because the extremes of the Democrat and Republican bases went ballistic.

I'd imagine it'll be the first test of Trump's "negotiating skills" since he'll still have to contend with the House Freedom Caucus, we'll see if he's as good as a negotiator as he claims he is.
Trump wants a trillion dollar infrastructure program. And massive tax cuts. And massive increases in military spending.

There is no math in the universe that can make that work without ballooning the deficits.
Well since liberals say the economy is booming we can cut welfare in half. There is one solution.
 

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So I guess now that a Republican is president, we're back to the Bush Era,

where the debt doesn't matter?
He's not been sworn in yet, nor has the new congress. You seem to want to forget the Obama years already.
The debt ceiling crisis was during the Obama years. I want to know if anyone still cares about the debt ceiling.

of course we care about the national debt. If you do, why didn't you scream when Obama doubled it?

Creating American jobs works in two ways, people with jobs pay taxes and don't need welfare. so new jobs increase govt revenue and reduce govt spending. Will it happen soon enough? guess we have to wait and see.
 

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I'm pretty sure we're due for another raise in the debt ceiling in March 2017. If someone knows better, please post it.

Will Trump refuse to raise it? Will Congress refuse to raise it? Will Ted Cruz take a stand, or take a knee (or two)?
Yes March 2017, the debt ceiling is suspended until then.

IMHO The most likely scenario is the re-emergence of the "Grand Bargain" on cutting spending and tax reform (or something very similar to it) that Obama wanted to cut with Boehner in 2011 but got nixed because the extremes of the Democrat and Republican bases went ballistic.

I'd imagine it'll be the first test of Trump's "negotiating skills" since he'll still have to contend with the House Freedom Caucus, we'll see if he's as good as a negotiator as he claims he is.
Trump wants a trillion dollar infrastructure program. And massive tax cuts. And massive increases in military spending.

There is no math in the universe that can make that work without ballooning the deficits.
Yeah well, he claims he's a "Great Negotiator" but nobody said he was a math whiz.

However the Obama-Boehner deal is doable and it does cut spending and reforms the tax code, beyond that the Republicans will have to do something that they've (along with the Democrats) have never been able to do in order to get the rest of his "agenda" in place; namely PRIORITIZE spending, in other words "XYZ is more important than ABC so ABC has to go to pay for XYZ" ......

It's what the assholes in Congress were supposed to be doing all along but have been too chickenshit to do because they had an out by shifting taxes into the future (borrowing) and devaluing the purchasing power of the dollar (print & monetize).

Personally I doubt anything is going to change with this Administration and this Congress, they'll keep doing what they've been doing until the dollar crashes because they believe they won't be in office when the shit hits the fan.
 

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We should soon be running a surplus with the 35% of Federal workers who claimed they might resign if Trump is elected follow through on their threat. The resulting economic growth due to less gubmint, will allow us to start retiring the debt.

Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy!
 
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So I guess now that a Republican is president, we're back to the Bush Era,

where the debt doesn't matter?
He's not been sworn in yet, nor has the new congress. You seem to want to forget the Obama years already.
The debt ceiling crisis was during the Obama years. I want to know if anyone still cares about the debt ceiling.

of course we care about the national debt. If you do, why didn't you scream when Obama doubled it?

Creating American jobs works in two ways, people with jobs pay taxes and don't need welfare. so new jobs increase govt revenue and reduce govt spending. Will it happen soon enough? guess we have to wait and see.
So you think Trump can pay for a trillion dollar infrastructure program, massive increase in defense spending,
AND a huge tax cut,

in a manner that will not add to the debt?

Amuse us. Let's hear how that works.
 

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I'm pretty sure we're due for another raise in the debt ceiling in March 2017. If someone knows better, please post it.

Will Trump refuse to raise it? Will Congress refuse to raise it? Will Ted Cruz take a stand, or take a knee (or two)?
Yes March 2017, the debt ceiling is suspended until then.

IMHO The most likely scenario is the re-emergence of the "Grand Bargain" on cutting spending and tax reform (or something very similar to it) that Obama wanted to cut with Boehner in 2011 but got nixed because the extremes of the Democrat and Republican bases went ballistic.

I'd imagine it'll be the first test of Trump's "negotiating skills" since he'll still have to contend with the House Freedom Caucus, we'll see if he's as good as a negotiator as he claims he is.
Trump wants a trillion dollar infrastructure program. And massive tax cuts. And massive increases in military spending.

There is no math in the universe that can make that work without ballooning the deficits.
Investors who have held back trillions of dollars so fucking Obama couldn't get his paws on the money are now lining up to invest in infrastructure programs.
This will put millions of people who want to work back to work making a decent living.
You and your ilk want to see America become a third world socialist shithole overrun by illegals who are willing to work for a quarter of what a legal is paid. Over run by fucking ragheads who will throw your fag ass off the first roof as soon as they can.
Thanks to over two million former Obama voters who sat on the fucking porch America is saved!
 

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I'm pretty sure we're due for another raise in the debt ceiling in March 2017. If someone knows better, please post it.

Will Trump refuse to raise it? Will Congress refuse to raise it? Will Ted Cruz take a stand, or take a knee (or two)?
Yes March 2017, the debt ceiling is suspended until then.

IMHO The most likely scenario is the re-emergence of the "Grand Bargain" on cutting spending and tax reform (or something very similar to it) that Obama wanted to cut with Boehner in 2011 but got nixed because the extremes of the Democrat and Republican bases went ballistic.

I'd imagine it'll be the first test of Trump's "negotiating skills" since he'll still have to contend with the House Freedom Caucus, we'll see if he's as good as a negotiator as he claims he is.
Trump wants a trillion dollar infrastructure program. And massive tax cuts. And massive increases in military spending.

There is no math in the universe that can make that work without ballooning the deficits.

Huckster will just print more money, and his bots will just degrade Obama because he didnt think of that
The trillion dollar coin? Remember that?

I missed that one.

flip ya, heads or tails .... Trump economic policy?
 

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