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Gee, what could go wrong in worshipping a giant black cube? It looks evil even by archaic standards
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The cube at Mecca
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A man named Alderson awakens in a cube-shaped room with a hatch in each wall, the ceiling and the floor, each of which leads to other cube-shaped rooms, identical except for their color. He enters an orange room and, without warning, is killed by a trap.
In another such room, five people – Quentin, Worth, Holloway, Rennes, and Leaven – meet. None of them knows where they are or how they got there. Quentin informs the others that some rooms contain traps, which he learned by nearly being killed by one. Rennes assumes each trap is triggered by a motion detector and tests each room by throwing one of his boots in first. Leaven notices numbers inscribed in the passageways between rooms. Quentin, a policeman, recognizes Rennes as "the Wren", an escape artist renowned for getting out of jails. After declaring one room trap-free, Rennes enters and is killed when he is sprayed with acid. The others realize that there are different kinds of detectors, and Quentin deduces that this trap was triggered by heat.
Quentin believes each person has a reason for being there. Leaven is a mathematics student, Holloway a physician andconspiracy theorist, and the surly Worth declines to talk about himself. Leaven hypothesizes that any room marked with aprime number is a trap. They find a mentally challenged man named Kazan, whom Holloway insists they bring along. When Quentin nearly dies in a room deemed safe by Leaven's calculations, tensions rise due to personality conflicts and lack of faith in Leaven's system. Quentin provokes Worth into an argument about finding the exit, and Worth accidentally reveals that he has knowledge of the Cube. Worth admits that he designed the Cube's outer shell for a shadowy bureaucracy and guesses that its original purpose has been forgotten; they have been imprisoned within simply to put it to use.
Worth's knowledge of the outer shell's size allows Leaven to determine that each side of the Cube is 26 rooms across and that there are 17,576 rooms in total. She guesses that the numbers indicate the Cartesian coordinates of the rooms. The group moves toward the nearest edge as determined by her theory, but each of the rooms near the outer wall are trapped. Rather than backtrack, they travel silently through a room with a sound-activated trap. After Kazan makes a sound and nearly causes Quentin's death, Quentin threatens Kazan. Holloway defends Kazan and provokes Quentin into an argument by calling him a Nazi. The acrimonious argument escalates until Quentin slaps her, further increasing tension within the group. When they reach the edge, Holloway scouts the gap between the Cube and its outer shell, but slips during a violent quake; Quentin initially saves her, but then lets her fall to her death and reports it to the others as an accident.
Quentin attempts to persuade Leaven to abandon the others with him and makes a sexual advance, but she rejects him. When Quentin becomes aggressive, Worth intervenes; Quentin beats him savagely and drops him through a floor hatch. Worth laughs hysterically at what he finds — Rennes's corpse. The group is demoralized by the thought of having been wandering in circles. Worth realizes that the rooms move periodically through the Cube, and this is the source of the quaking. Leaven deduces that traps are not tagged by prime numbers, but by powers of prime numbers. Much to Quentin's surprise, Kazan reveals himself to be an autistic savant who can quickly do prime factorisations mentally. With Kazan's help, Leaven guides them to a bridge room which will lead them out of the maze in two movements. Worth preemptively ambushes Quentin and leaves him behind, though Worth declines to leave the Cube, as he has lost faith in humanity.
Leaven objects and convinces Worth to join her, but Quentin reappears, kills her, and mortally wounds Worth. As Quentin moves to kill Kazan, Worth expends the last of his strength to grab Quentin's leg, pinning him in the passageway as the rooms shift again. Quentin is torn apart, and Worth dies seconds later, next to Leaven. Kazan slowly walks into a bright light.
In another such room, five people – Quentin, Worth, Holloway, Rennes, and Leaven – meet. None of them knows where they are or how they got there. Quentin informs the others that some rooms contain traps, which he learned by nearly being killed by one. Rennes assumes each trap is triggered by a motion detector and tests each room by throwing one of his boots in first. Leaven notices numbers inscribed in the passageways between rooms. Quentin, a policeman, recognizes Rennes as "the Wren", an escape artist renowned for getting out of jails. After declaring one room trap-free, Rennes enters and is killed when he is sprayed with acid. The others realize that there are different kinds of detectors, and Quentin deduces that this trap was triggered by heat.
Quentin believes each person has a reason for being there. Leaven is a mathematics student, Holloway a physician andconspiracy theorist, and the surly Worth declines to talk about himself. Leaven hypothesizes that any room marked with aprime number is a trap. They find a mentally challenged man named Kazan, whom Holloway insists they bring along. When Quentin nearly dies in a room deemed safe by Leaven's calculations, tensions rise due to personality conflicts and lack of faith in Leaven's system. Quentin provokes Worth into an argument about finding the exit, and Worth accidentally reveals that he has knowledge of the Cube. Worth admits that he designed the Cube's outer shell for a shadowy bureaucracy and guesses that its original purpose has been forgotten; they have been imprisoned within simply to put it to use.
Worth's knowledge of the outer shell's size allows Leaven to determine that each side of the Cube is 26 rooms across and that there are 17,576 rooms in total. She guesses that the numbers indicate the Cartesian coordinates of the rooms. The group moves toward the nearest edge as determined by her theory, but each of the rooms near the outer wall are trapped. Rather than backtrack, they travel silently through a room with a sound-activated trap. After Kazan makes a sound and nearly causes Quentin's death, Quentin threatens Kazan. Holloway defends Kazan and provokes Quentin into an argument by calling him a Nazi. The acrimonious argument escalates until Quentin slaps her, further increasing tension within the group. When they reach the edge, Holloway scouts the gap between the Cube and its outer shell, but slips during a violent quake; Quentin initially saves her, but then lets her fall to her death and reports it to the others as an accident.
Quentin attempts to persuade Leaven to abandon the others with him and makes a sexual advance, but she rejects him. When Quentin becomes aggressive, Worth intervenes; Quentin beats him savagely and drops him through a floor hatch. Worth laughs hysterically at what he finds — Rennes's corpse. The group is demoralized by the thought of having been wandering in circles. Worth realizes that the rooms move periodically through the Cube, and this is the source of the quaking. Leaven deduces that traps are not tagged by prime numbers, but by powers of prime numbers. Much to Quentin's surprise, Kazan reveals himself to be an autistic savant who can quickly do prime factorisations mentally. With Kazan's help, Leaven guides them to a bridge room which will lead them out of the maze in two movements. Worth preemptively ambushes Quentin and leaves him behind, though Worth declines to leave the Cube, as he has lost faith in humanity.
Leaven objects and convinces Worth to join her, but Quentin reappears, kills her, and mortally wounds Worth. As Quentin moves to kill Kazan, Worth expends the last of his strength to grab Quentin's leg, pinning him in the passageway as the rooms shift again. Quentin is torn apart, and Worth dies seconds later, next to Leaven. Kazan slowly walks into a bright light.
The Great Goose
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what could possibly go wrong?
IsaacNewton
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A cube, a cross, a squatting fatguy, a spaghetti monster.
If you use it in any way to harm or deem inferior your fellow humans then whatever it is you are worshipping isn't the problem. It is you who wants to harm other people and you just have found a convenient excuse to do it with a smile on your face and no remorse.
The object is in fact a device to remove civilization from your mind, and leave only the animal brain intact.
If you use it in any way to harm or deem inferior your fellow humans then whatever it is you are worshipping isn't the problem. It is you who wants to harm other people and you just have found a convenient excuse to do it with a smile on your face and no remorse.
The object is in fact a device to remove civilization from your mind, and leave only the animal brain intact.
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Today's free geometry lesson:
The Kaaba is not a "cube".
The Kaaba is not a "cube".
People forget why they do something only a few have the knowledge to remember ...If in the childrens tale hansel and gretal left bread crumbs to show them the path home and the birds ate them then hansel and gretal were in deep trouble because they did not know how to" return" to where they came from... It is the same with the cube it was placed there for a reason so people could return... Some say that Mecca is Kadesh Barnea where the Israelites stayed for 38 years in the wilderness if this is true then this symbol has adeeper meaning and certain customs about it can enlighten people if they dig a little deeper...
Zander
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Today's free geometry lesson:
The Kaaba is not a "cube".
Today's free Arabic lesson:
Kaaba means "cube" in arabic.
Today's free geometry lesson:
The Kaaba is not a "cube".
Today's free Arabic lesson:
Kaaba means "cube" in arabic.
It's still not a cube.
It's a rectangular cuboid.
IsaacNewton
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It's a hunk of rock to me. Like every other hunk of rock on Earth. No different than worshipping at the Wailing WALL. Or a piece of wood with someone nailed to it.
It is barbaric ancient animal mind shit.
It is barbaric ancient animal mind shit.
Zander
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Today's free geometry lesson:
The Kaaba is not a "cube".
Today's free Arabic lesson:
Kaaba means "cube" in arabic.
It's still not a cube.
It's a rectangular cuboid.
And the earth is not round either- it's an oblate spheroid. But normal folks still call it "round".
Today's free geometry lesson:
The Kaaba is not a "cube".
Today's free Arabic lesson:
Kaaba means "cube" in arabic.
It's still not a cube.
It's a rectangular cuboid.
And the earth is not round either- it's an oblate spheroid. But normal folks still call it "round".
When I see threads this dumb, sometimes I feel like being pedantic.
IsaacNewton
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Maybe it's a Rubik's cube painted black on all sides, the ultimate Rubik's cube. OR, the simplest.
And there lies the conundrum and the challenge, whether you view yourself as able to figure out the immense scary puzzle of religion, or if you just accept there isn't anything to figure out.
And there lies the conundrum and the challenge, whether you view yourself as able to figure out the immense scary puzzle of religion, or if you just accept there isn't anything to figure out.
Zander
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Today's free geometry lesson:
The Kaaba is not a "cube".
Today's free Arabic lesson:
Kaaba means "cube" in arabic.
It's still not a cube.
It's a rectangular cuboid.
And the earth is not round either- it's an oblate spheroid. But normal folks still call it "round".
When I see threads this dumb, sometimes I feel like being pedantic.
I know the feeling!
HaShev
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It's a hunk of rock to me. Like every other hunk of rock on Earth. No different than worshipping at the Wailing WALL. Or a piece of wood with someone nailed to it.
It is barbaric ancient animal mind shit.
Yes and no, depends on how they focus their attention on those things.
If the wailing wall is used as a a genie granting wishes then yes it's idolization.
However if they use it for symbolic attonement or in REMEMBERANCE OFCTHE TEMPLE AND ITS IMPORTANCE then the focus is valid and useful.
Same with Meca.
Venerating the meteor at Mecca pilgramage playing duck duck goose circling & touching and praying to a Rock=idolization, however if the focus is in rememberance of or secreting of something then it's validated.
They say it was Michael who left them this rock as a sign and symbol for them to focus attention which will reveal or secret itself in it's due time to come.
They store the Night rock perhaps moon rock (Devoted to Shalem) in a box shaped container and circle it "Sheva" times.
2 methods in which they convey the last name of the messenger that they already call the top messenger by first name.
IT IS WHY THE 7TH (Sheva) day is kept holy and focus in
"Rememberance of the name".
Forget or leave out that part "rememberance of the name" and you forget the purpose of the 7th day focus and the holy number 7 throughout the Bible.
Right "Sheva" Day Adventist who's Christ is Michael?
Forget the focus on the ritual seven(Sheva) laps around and who left the message in the stone and you never secret that message nor name. ;-)
IsaacNewton
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It's a hunk of rock to me. Like every other hunk of rock on Earth. No different than worshipping at the Wailing WALL. Or a piece of wood with someone nailed to it.
It is barbaric ancient animal mind shit.
Yes and no, depends on how they focus their attention on those things.
If the wailing wall is used as a a genie granting wishes then yes it's idolization.
However if they use it for symbolic attonement or in REMEMBERANCE OFCTHE TEMPLE AND ITS IMPORTANCE then the focus is valid and useful.
Same with Meca.
Venerating the meteor at Mecca pilgramage playing duck duck goose circling & touching and praying to a Rock=idolization, however if the focus is in rememberance of or secreting of something then it's validated.
They say it was Michael who left them this rock as a sign and symbol for them to focus attention which will reveal or secret itself in it's due time to come.
They store the Night rock perhaps moon rock (Devoted to Shalem) in a box shaped container and circle it "Sheva" times.
2 methods in which they convey the last name of the messenger that they already call the top messenger by first name.
IT IS WHY THE 7TH (Sheva) day is kept holy and focus in
"Rememberance of the name".
Forget or leave out that part "rememberance of the name" and you forget the purpose of the 7th day focus and the holy number 7 throughout the Bible.
Right "Sheva" Day Adventist who's Christ is Michael?
Forget the focus on the ritual seven(Sheva) laps around and who left the message in the stone and you never secret that message nor name. ;-)
It is putting human emotion into an inanimate object. Rocks, wood, and dirt.
The same as the first humans that started worshipping the 'god of the trees' or the 'god of the corn' or the 'god of the volcano'.
HaShev
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But it's not supposed to be, like I posted above and times before, when you have to come back to your inheritence you leave clues all over the place. If you left treasure somewhere and needed to come back to find your place you'd leave markers and clues all over to find that place. If your offspring worship those marker stones and clues left behind then that's their inability to follow instruction and not the fault of the one leaving markers. It's the price you have to pay to remember where your place is.
Those paying attention will understand this, but those to proud and lofty will only see it at the wrong angle of their choosing. Because they never heard or understood HaShev (the return).
Example; bet you wondered why YeruShalem is holy or so focused on as center of attention. It's not until you discover the name and meaning and symbol of the city's name that it becomes clear. Everything in that city name tells us
our most finite source and piwer in life thus our purpose, proper path, direction, discernment of good or evil without it being subjective,and it's legend becomes cliff notes for the Hebrew Bible. If you were to never read the Torah the simplified cliff note would be in one single name of the city, it secrets that much. So basically how you view devotion and focus is all based in whether you axtually focus and find the secret or ignore it and scoff wondering aimlessly through the desert never to reach where you could and should be.
Those paying attention will understand this, but those to proud and lofty will only see it at the wrong angle of their choosing. Because they never heard or understood HaShev (the return).
Example; bet you wondered why YeruShalem is holy or so focused on as center of attention. It's not until you discover the name and meaning and symbol of the city's name that it becomes clear. Everything in that city name tells us
our most finite source and piwer in life thus our purpose, proper path, direction, discernment of good or evil without it being subjective,and it's legend becomes cliff notes for the Hebrew Bible. If you were to never read the Torah the simplified cliff note would be in one single name of the city, it secrets that much. So basically how you view devotion and focus is all based in whether you axtually focus and find the secret or ignore it and scoff wondering aimlessly through the desert never to reach where you could and should be.
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Today's free geometry lesson:
The Kaaba is not a "cube".
Today's free Arabic lesson:
Kaaba means "cube" in arabic.
It's still not a cube.
It's a rectangular cuboid.
Kaaba means six sided solid thing
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