The cruelty of Covid-19 and death

[Andylusion]

My big brother died, July 7 of a stroke.....it was sudden, without warning and he was gone. The very next day, July 8 would have been his 64 birthday. I have been crying ever since. Now the cruelty....because I have been in self isolation since the word came out, I am without a hug, without my family, without our mom, I am alone. Although the family talk via the phone, of course its not the same......I need a shoulder to rest my heart on, a kiss on the forehead for assurance, something to bring his cold cruel death to warmth.

Were it under any other circumstances, I could make it through this, but Covid won't let me.

His wake, is Sunday and although I plan to attend, I am without a doubt, fearful as hell. My family, his wife, is of the old school mentality, as is his church, the more the merrier......will every one come masked? or will they not??? I don't know and like I said, I am terrified to be among the mourners....So far from all the video I've been receiving, as they celebrated his birthday, no masks, just tears and sadness, like I said, I am scared as hell about Sunday and this wake. I will not attend the funeral Monday, because word is out, 70 mourners will be accommodated....I am beside myself with guilt, sadness and grief.

This virus, this hell, is beyond the heart, its tearing away at my soul. My anxiety is over the top, I can't drink enough liquor to get me through this guilt and the fear. My 83 year old mother will be at this funeral and I am beside myself with fear. But mama must say good bye to her first born and I understand. I feel like a coward, I feel hopeless, but I'm afraid, so afraid to go.

I had hoped the wife would arrange a private viewing for the immediate family and plan a virtual funereal, but she needs the support from all his friends and family.....I understand...but I can't get passed the reality that black funerals end so often with black people becoming infected and dying...I've heard to many stories about this, but still I feel like a coward.

Covid-19 has stripped me finally of everything, including my heart. Her cruelty, I bow to you, you win!!

May my big brother sleep in heavenly peace and forgive me for being afraid and a coward.

Had a friend that lived near my father, had his father pass away suddenly without warning. This was in June.

We all went to the funeral, and no one had masks on.

We just decided we're not going to live in fear. Life is short dude. You can't just down your entire life, over a pathetic virus.

My father is 77, has asthma, and has diabetes. He's about as high in the risk category as you can get. If he was around a doctor, they'd be telling him to wear masks, and hide in the basement.

He looked me in the eyes "I've lived a good life. I'm 77. If the Lord calls me home, then I am ready to go. But I'm not going to waste the months I have left living in fear".

We went to the funeral, and we went to 4th of July, and we went to the beach, and we hanged out with friends, and we had BBQ at the lake house.

We're not going to live in fear.

You want my opinion? You should do the same. Life is too short to waste it. You have one chance in this world to live in the Blessing of the Lord. Be free of fear, live wisely, and live your life.

63% of the 130,000 ppl who have died so far, are blacks....ppl like me and there's a reason for it. Its not that we don't have healthcare, I do, its not that we're all unhealthy with underlying deceases, white ppl have that too, its just that the medical community as does this country, do not VALUE US, as they do others and that is just fact. A overweight 63 year old black women showing up in ER with this shit, vs the same in others, I'm a dead woman, for sure. And the way life has been going for me so far this year, it hasn't been good. Today is the day for the wake, I'll see how this goes and make up my mind later, meanwhile, again thanks to all for the support, the Tiger appreciates it.

I don't believe that at all. You would have to prove that black people are exactly identical to whites in all areas.

My father in his late 70s, still goes and lifts weights, like he did when he was wrestling coach. My mother still walks 2 miles every other day.

I don't think the problem is that black people are left to die. First off, that would be a lawsuit. Second, hospitals don't get money if you die. Hard to collect money from dead people. Third, it does matter where you go. If you go to a crappy hospital, you get crappy care. My family would never go to the government funded OSU hospital. That place is a death trap. We go to the private hospital that costs more. Yeah, we have a bigger bill, but we get better care, by far.

Where I live, its the public hospitals that give minorities the best of the best care...private hospitals only care about money and white people

Condolences for your loss Tiger and your loneliness through these times.

Soes you know private hospitals don't give a crap about white people without money either. The only way to get the best care is to find the best doctors that actually care about you as a person. They are a rare breed these days simply due to the way the system has been. I felt very blessed to get a few doctors that wanted only the best care for me as a person in the last few years. Now if I listened to the local corps I be nothing more than a quick buck to them for doing what they consider standard surgeries. One way to get the best medical care is to become an informed patient as there is no better advocate for you than you.

Actually that's not true either. I've gone to the hospital without money, or insurance.

I'm not sure what you think happens when you do this... but they send you something called a "Bill". And you just pay the bill.

If the bill is more than you have, then you pay what you can every single month. I did this. It was good almost two years, paying off that medical bill.

But I got good care, and it was well worth the money. So I paid it.

Just pay for care. Would you work for someone, if they didn't pay you? No. You would expect proper pay, for work given. Right?

Well... why would hospitals be any different? Pay for what you want, like an adult. Grow up.

Sometimes, no most of the time you are simply a dickhead not worth considering. Hospitals still are bound by federal law when they have been built with federal dollars to care for anyone regardless of their financial situation that is why you got that initial care when you walked through their doors.

And as usual you are clueless as you make up some sort of scenario and make assumptions in your pea brain without knowing jack about another person's life circumstances, insurances, finances, etc... so go fuck yourself as I am simply not in the mood to converse with you.

If I said something that sounded like "I care what you think of me personally" then I apologize for that.

Your opinion of me personally, matters to no one I care about, and certainly not me.

"private hospitals don't give a crap about white people without money either"

"Hospitals still are bound by federal law when they have been built with federal dollars to care for anyone regardless of their financial situation that is why you got that initial care when you walked through their doors."

Yes. You are correct.

so go fuck yourself as I am simply not in the mood to converse with you.

You are free to not post on the forum. As for me, I'll say whatever I want, when I want, how I want, and what you think I should do... never mattered to me.

Know your place, child. You are not that important.

 

[RodISHI]

My big brother died, July 7 of a stroke.....it was sudden, without warning and he was gone. The very next day, July 8 would have been his 64 birthday. I have been crying ever since. Now the cruelty....because I have been in self isolation since the word came out, I am without a hug, without my family, without our mom, I am alone. Although the family talk via the phone, of course its not the same......I need a shoulder to rest my heart on, a kiss on the forehead for assurance, something to bring his cold cruel death to warmth.

Were it under any other circumstances, I could make it through this, but Covid won't let me.

His wake, is Sunday and although I plan to attend, I am without a doubt, fearful as hell. My family, his wife, is of the old school mentality, as is his church, the more the merrier......will every one come masked? or will they not??? I don't know and like I said, I am terrified to be among the mourners....So far from all the video I've been receiving, as they celebrated his birthday, no masks, just tears and sadness, like I said, I am scared as hell about Sunday and this wake. I will not attend the funeral Monday, because word is out, 70 mourners will be accommodated....I am beside myself with guilt, sadness and grief.

This virus, this hell, is beyond the heart, its tearing away at my soul. My anxiety is over the top, I can't drink enough liquor to get me through this guilt and the fear. My 83 year old mother will be at this funeral and I am beside myself with fear. But mama must say good bye to her first born and I understand. I feel like a coward, I feel hopeless, but I'm afraid, so afraid to go.

I had hoped the wife would arrange a private viewing for the immediate family and plan a virtual funereal, but she needs the support from all his friends and family.....I understand...but I can't get passed the reality that black funerals end so often with black people becoming infected and dying...I've heard to many stories about this, but still I feel like a coward.

Covid-19 has stripped me finally of everything, including my heart. Her cruelty, I bow to you, you win!!

May my big brother sleep in heavenly peace and forgive me for being afraid and a coward.

Had a friend that lived near my father, had his father pass away suddenly without warning. This was in June.

We all went to the funeral, and no one had masks on.

We just decided we're not going to live in fear. Life is short dude. You can't just down your entire life, over a pathetic virus.

My father is 77, has asthma, and has diabetes. He's about as high in the risk category as you can get. If he was around a doctor, they'd be telling him to wear masks, and hide in the basement.

He looked me in the eyes "I've lived a good life. I'm 77. If the Lord calls me home, then I am ready to go. But I'm not going to waste the months I have left living in fear".

We went to the funeral, and we went to 4th of July, and we went to the beach, and we hanged out with friends, and we had BBQ at the lake house.

We're not going to live in fear.

You want my opinion? You should do the same. Life is too short to waste it. You have one chance in this world to live in the Blessing of the Lord. Be free of fear, live wisely, and live your life.

63% of the 130,000 ppl who have died so far, are blacks....ppl like me and there's a reason for it. Its not that we don't have healthcare, I do, its not that we're all unhealthy with underlying deceases, white ppl have that too, its just that the medical community as does this country, do not VALUE US, as they do others and that is just fact. A overweight 63 year old black women showing up in ER with this shit, vs the same in others, I'm a dead woman, for sure. And the way life has been going for me so far this year, it hasn't been good. Today is the day for the wake, I'll see how this goes and make up my mind later, meanwhile, again thanks to all for the support, the Tiger appreciates it.

I don't believe that at all. You would have to prove that black people are exactly identical to whites in all areas.

My father in his late 70s, still goes and lifts weights, like he did when he was wrestling coach. My mother still walks 2 miles every other day.

I don't think the problem is that black people are left to die. First off, that would be a lawsuit. Second, hospitals don't get money if you die. Hard to collect money from dead people. Third, it does matter where you go. If you go to a crappy hospital, you get crappy care. My family would never go to the government funded OSU hospital. That place is a death trap. We go to the private hospital that costs more. Yeah, we have a bigger bill, but we get better care, by far.

Where I live, its the public hospitals that give minorities the best of the best care...private hospitals only care about money and white people

Condolences for your loss Tiger and your loneliness through these times.

Soes you know private hospitals don't give a crap about white people without money either. The only way to get the best care is to find the best doctors that actually care about you as a person. They are a rare breed these days simply due to the way the system has been. I felt very blessed to get a few doctors that wanted only the best care for me as a person in the last few years. Now if I listened to the local corps I be nothing more than a quick buck to them for doing what they consider standard surgeries. One way to get the best medical care is to become an informed patient as there is no better advocate for you than you.

Actually that's not true either. I've gone to the hospital without money, or insurance.

I'm not sure what you think happens when you do this... but they send you something called a "Bill". And you just pay the bill.

If the bill is more than you have, then you pay what you can every single month. I did this. It was good almost two years, paying off that medical bill.

But I got good care, and it was well worth the money. So I paid it.

Just pay for care. Would you work for someone, if they didn't pay you? No. You would expect proper pay, for work given. Right?

Well... why would hospitals be any different? Pay for what you want, like an adult. Grow up.

Sometimes, no most of the time you are simply a dickhead not worth considering. Hospitals still are bound by federal law when they have been built with federal dollars to care for anyone regardless of their financial situation that is why you got that initial care when you walked through their doors.

And as usual you are clueless as you make up some sort of scenario and make assumptions in your pea brain without knowing jack about another person's life circumstances, insurances, finances, etc... so go fuck yourself as I am simply not in the mood to converse with you.

If I said something that sounded like "I care what you think of me personally" then I apologize for that.

Your opinion of me personally, matters to no one I care about, and certainly not me.

"private hospitals don't give a crap about white people without money either"

"Hospitals still are bound by federal law when they have been built with federal dollars to care for anyone regardless of their financial situation that is why you got that initial care when you walked through their doors."

Yes. You are correct.

so go fuck yourself as I am simply not in the mood to converse with you.

You are free to not post on the forum. As for me, I'll say whatever I want, when I want, how I want, and what you think I should do... never mattered to me.

Know your place, child. You are not that important.

It has nothing to do with your opinion. It is your total ignorance and the pride you exhibit in having it. You are free to post whatever and I am also free to do the same.

 

[Andylusion]

My big brother died, July 7 of a stroke.....it was sudden, without warning and he was gone. The very next day, July 8 would have been his 64 birthday. I have been crying ever since. Now the cruelty....because I have been in self isolation since the word came out, I am without a hug, without my family, without our mom, I am alone. Although the family talk via the phone, of course its not the same......I need a shoulder to rest my heart on, a kiss on the forehead for assurance, something to bring his cold cruel death to warmth.

Were it under any other circumstances, I could make it through this, but Covid won't let me.

His wake, is Sunday and although I plan to attend, I am without a doubt, fearful as hell. My family, his wife, is of the old school mentality, as is his church, the more the merrier......will every one come masked? or will they not??? I don't know and like I said, I am terrified to be among the mourners....So far from all the video I've been receiving, as they celebrated his birthday, no masks, just tears and sadness, like I said, I am scared as hell about Sunday and this wake. I will not attend the funeral Monday, because word is out, 70 mourners will be accommodated....I am beside myself with guilt, sadness and grief.

This virus, this hell, is beyond the heart, its tearing away at my soul. My anxiety is over the top, I can't drink enough liquor to get me through this guilt and the fear. My 83 year old mother will be at this funeral and I am beside myself with fear. But mama must say good bye to her first born and I understand. I feel like a coward, I feel hopeless, but I'm afraid, so afraid to go.

I had hoped the wife would arrange a private viewing for the immediate family and plan a virtual funereal, but she needs the support from all his friends and family.....I understand...but I can't get passed the reality that black funerals end so often with black people becoming infected and dying...I've heard to many stories about this, but still I feel like a coward.

Covid-19 has stripped me finally of everything, including my heart. Her cruelty, I bow to you, you win!!

May my big brother sleep in heavenly peace and forgive me for being afraid and a coward.

Had a friend that lived near my father, had his father pass away suddenly without warning. This was in June.

We all went to the funeral, and no one had masks on.

We just decided we're not going to live in fear. Life is short dude. You can't just down your entire life, over a pathetic virus.

My father is 77, has asthma, and has diabetes. He's about as high in the risk category as you can get. If he was around a doctor, they'd be telling him to wear masks, and hide in the basement.

He looked me in the eyes "I've lived a good life. I'm 77. If the Lord calls me home, then I am ready to go. But I'm not going to waste the months I have left living in fear".

We went to the funeral, and we went to 4th of July, and we went to the beach, and we hanged out with friends, and we had BBQ at the lake house.

We're not going to live in fear.

You want my opinion? You should do the same. Life is too short to waste it. You have one chance in this world to live in the Blessing of the Lord. Be free of fear, live wisely, and live your life.

63% of the 130,000 ppl who have died so far, are blacks....ppl like me and there's a reason for it. Its not that we don't have healthcare, I do, its not that we're all unhealthy with underlying deceases, white ppl have that too, its just that the medical community as does this country, do not VALUE US, as they do others and that is just fact. A overweight 63 year old black women showing up in ER with this shit, vs the same in others, I'm a dead woman, for sure. And the way life has been going for me so far this year, it hasn't been good. Today is the day for the wake, I'll see how this goes and make up my mind later, meanwhile, again thanks to all for the support, the Tiger appreciates it.

I don't believe that at all. You would have to prove that black people are exactly identical to whites in all areas.

My father in his late 70s, still goes and lifts weights, like he did when he was wrestling coach. My mother still walks 2 miles every other day.

I don't think the problem is that black people are left to die. First off, that would be a lawsuit. Second, hospitals don't get money if you die. Hard to collect money from dead people. Third, it does matter where you go. If you go to a crappy hospital, you get crappy care. My family would never go to the government funded OSU hospital. That place is a death trap. We go to the private hospital that costs more. Yeah, we have a bigger bill, but we get better care, by far.

Where I live, its the public hospitals that give minorities the best of the best care...private hospitals only care about money and white people

Condolences for your loss Tiger and your loneliness through these times.

Soes you know private hospitals don't give a crap about white people without money either. The only way to get the best care is to find the best doctors that actually care about you as a person. They are a rare breed these days simply due to the way the system has been. I felt very blessed to get a few doctors that wanted only the best care for me as a person in the last few years. Now if I listened to the local corps I be nothing more than a quick buck to them for doing what they consider standard surgeries. One way to get the best medical care is to become an informed patient as there is no better advocate for you than you.

Actually that's not true either. I've gone to the hospital without money, or insurance.

I'm not sure what you think happens when you do this... but they send you something called a "Bill". And you just pay the bill.

If the bill is more than you have, then you pay what you can every single month. I did this. It was good almost two years, paying off that medical bill.

But I got good care, and it was well worth the money. So I paid it.

Just pay for care. Would you work for someone, if they didn't pay you? No. You would expect proper pay, for work given. Right?

Well... why would hospitals be any different? Pay for what you want, like an adult. Grow up.

Sometimes, no most of the time you are simply a dickhead not worth considering. Hospitals still are bound by federal law when they have been built with federal dollars to care for anyone regardless of their financial situation that is why you got that initial care when you walked through their doors.

And as usual you are clueless as you make up some sort of scenario and make assumptions in your pea brain without knowing jack about another person's life circumstances, insurances, finances, etc... so go fuck yourself as I am simply not in the mood to converse with you.

If I said something that sounded like "I care what you think of me personally" then I apologize for that.

Your opinion of me personally, matters to no one I care about, and certainly not me.

"private hospitals don't give a crap about white people without money either"

"Hospitals still are bound by federal law when they have been built with federal dollars to care for anyone regardless of their financial situation that is why you got that initial care when you walked through their doors."

Yes. You are correct.

so go fuck yourself as I am simply not in the mood to converse with you.

You are free to not post on the forum. As for me, I'll say whatever I want, when I want, how I want, and what you think I should do... never mattered to me.

Know your place, child. You are not that important.

It has nothing to do with your opinion. It is your total ignorance and the pride you exhibit in having it. You are free to post whatever and I am also free to do the same.

Thanks. Didn't need your permission. Just remember that when you try and tell others what to do.

 

[BreezeWood]

My big brother died, July 7 of a stroke.....it was sudden, without warning and he was gone. The very next day, July 8 would have been his 64 birthday. I have been crying ever since. Now the cruelty....because I have been in self isolation since the word came out, I am without a hug, without my family, without our mom, I am alone. Although the family talk via the phone, of course its not the same......I need a shoulder to rest my heart on, a kiss on the forehead for assurance, something to bring his cold cruel death to warmth.

Were it under any other circumstances, I could make it through this, but Covid won't let me.

His wake, is Sunday and although I plan to attend, I am without a doubt, fearful as hell. My family, his wife, is of the old school mentality, as is his church, the more the merrier......will every one come masked? or will they not??? I don't know and like I said, I am terrified to be among the mourners....So far from all the video I've been receiving, as they celebrated his birthday, no masks, just tears and sadness, like I said, I am scared as hell about Sunday and this wake. I will not attend the funeral Monday, because word is out, 70 mourners will be accommodated....I am beside myself with guilt, sadness and grief.

This virus, this hell, is beyond the heart, its tearing away at my soul. My anxiety is over the top, I can't drink enough liquor to get me through this guilt and the fear. My 83 year old mother will be at this funeral and I am beside myself with fear. But mama must say good bye to her first born and I understand. I feel like a coward, I feel hopeless, but I'm afraid, so afraid to go.

I had hoped the wife would arrange a private viewing for the immediate family and plan a virtual funereal, but she needs the support from all his friends and family.....I understand...but I can't get passed the reality that black funerals end so often with black people becoming infected and dying...I've heard to many stories about this, but still I feel like a coward.

Covid-19 has stripped me finally of everything, including my heart. Her cruelty, I bow to you, you win!!

May my big brother sleep in heavenly peace and forgive me for being afraid and a coward.

Had a friend that lived near my father, had his father pass away suddenly without warning. This was in June.

We all went to the funeral, and no one had masks on.

We just decided we're not going to live in fear. Life is short dude. You can't just down your entire life, over a pathetic virus.

My father is 77, has asthma, and has diabetes. He's about as high in the risk category as you can get. If he was around a doctor, they'd be telling him to wear masks, and hide in the basement.

He looked me in the eyes "I've lived a good life. I'm 77. If the Lord calls me home, then I am ready to go. But I'm not going to waste the months I have left living in fear".

We went to the funeral, and we went to 4th of July, and we went to the beach, and we hanged out with friends, and we had BBQ at the lake house.

We're not going to live in fear.

You want my opinion? You should do the same. Life is too short to waste it. You have one chance in this world to live in the Blessing of the Lord. Be free of fear, live wisely, and live your life.

63% of the 130,000 ppl who have died so far, are blacks....ppl like me and there's a reason for it. Its not that we don't have healthcare, I do, its not that we're all unhealthy with underlying deceases, white ppl have that too, its just that the medical community as does this country, do not VALUE US, as they do others and that is just fact. A overweight 63 year old black women showing up in ER with this shit, vs the same in others, I'm a dead woman, for sure. And the way life has been going for me so far this year, it hasn't been good. Today is the day for the wake, I'll see how this goes and make up my mind later, meanwhile, again thanks to all for the support, the Tiger appreciates it.

I don't believe that at all. You would have to prove that black people are exactly identical to whites in all areas.

My father in his late 70s, still goes and lifts weights, like he did when he was wrestling coach. My mother still walks 2 miles every other day.

I don't think the problem is that black people are left to die. First off, that would be a lawsuit. Second, hospitals don't get money if you die. Hard to collect money from dead people. Third, it does matter where you go. If you go to a crappy hospital, you get crappy care. My family would never go to the government funded OSU hospital. That place is a death trap. We go to the private hospital that costs more. Yeah, we have a bigger bill, but we get better care, by far.

Where I live, its the public hospitals that give minorities the best of the best care...private hospitals only care about money and white people

Condolences for your loss Tiger and your loneliness through these times.

Soes you know private hospitals don't give a crap about white people without money either. The only way to get the best care is to find the best doctors that actually care about you as a person. They are a rare breed these days simply due to the way the system has been. I felt very blessed to get a few doctors that wanted only the best care for me as a person in the last few years. Now if I listened to the local corps I be nothing more than a quick buck to them for doing what they consider standard surgeries. One way to get the best medical care is to become an informed patient as there is no better advocate for you than you.

Actually that's not true either. I've gone to the hospital without money, or insurance.

I'm not sure what you think happens when you do this... but they send you something called a "Bill". And you just pay the bill.

If the bill is more than you have, then you pay what you can every single month. I did this. It was good almost two years, paying off that medical bill.

But I got good care, and it was well worth the money. So I paid it.

Just pay for care. Would you work for someone, if they didn't pay you? No. You would expect proper pay, for work given. Right?

Well... why would hospitals be any different? Pay for what you want, like an adult. Grow up.

Sometimes, no most of the time you are simply a dickhead not worth considering. Hospitals still are

My big brother died, July 7 of a stroke.....it was sudden, without warning and he was gone. The very next day, July 8 would have been his 64 birthday. I have been crying ever since. Now the cruelty....because I have been in self isolation since the word came out, I am without a hug, without my family, without our mom, I am alone. Although the family talk via the phone, of course its not the same......I need a shoulder to rest my heart on, a kiss on the forehead for assurance, something to bring his cold cruel death to warmth.

Were it under any other circumstances, I could make it through this, but Covid won't let me.

His wake, is Sunday and although I plan to attend, I am without a doubt, fearful as hell. My family, his wife, is of the old school mentality, as is his church, the more the merrier......will every one come masked? or will they not??? I don't know and like I said, I am terrified to be among the mourners....So far from all the video I've been receiving, as they celebrated his birthday, no masks, just tears and sadness, like I said, I am scared as hell about Sunday and this wake. I will not attend the funeral Monday, because word is out, 70 mourners will be accommodated....I am beside myself with guilt, sadness and grief.

This virus, this hell, is beyond the heart, its tearing away at my soul. My anxiety is over the top, I can't drink enough liquor to get me through this guilt and the fear. My 83 year old mother will be at this funeral and I am beside myself with fear. But mama must say good bye to her first born and I understand. I feel like a coward, I feel hopeless, but I'm afraid, so afraid to go.

I had hoped the wife would arrange a private viewing for the immediate family and plan a virtual funereal, but she needs the support from all his friends and family.....I understand...but I can't get passed the reality that black funerals end so often with black people becoming infected and dying...I've heard to many stories about this, but still I feel like a coward.

Covid-19 has stripped me finally of everything, including my heart. Her cruelty, I bow to you, you win!!

May my big brother sleep in heavenly peace and forgive me for being afraid and a coward.

Had a friend that lived near my father, had his father pass away suddenly without warning. This was in June.

We all went to the funeral, and no one had masks on.

We just decided we're not going to live in fear. Life is short dude. You can't just down your entire life, over a pathetic virus.

My father is 77, has asthma, and has diabetes. He's about as high in the risk category as you can get. If he was around a doctor, they'd be telling him to wear masks, and hide in the basement.

He looked me in the eyes "I've lived a good life. I'm 77. If the Lord calls me home, then I am ready to go. But I'm not going to waste the months I have left living in fear".

We went to the funeral, and we went to 4th of July, and we went to the beach, and we hanged out with friends, and we had BBQ at the lake house.

We're not going to live in fear.

You want my opinion? You should do the same. Life is too short to waste it. You have one chance in this world to live in the Blessing of the Lord. Be free of fear, live wisely, and live your life.

63% of the 130,000 ppl who have died so far, are blacks....ppl like me and there's a reason for it. Its not that we don't have healthcare, I do, its not that we're all unhealthy with underlying deceases, white ppl have that too, its just that the medical community as does this country, do not VALUE US, as they do others and that is just fact. A overweight 63 year old black women showing up in ER with this shit, vs the same in others, I'm a dead woman, for sure. And the way life has been going for me so far this year, it hasn't been good. Today is the day for the wake, I'll see how this goes and make up my mind later, meanwhile, again thanks to all for the support, the Tiger appreciates it.

I don't believe that at all. You would have to prove that black people are exactly identical to whites in all areas.

My father in his late 70s, still goes and lifts weights, like he did when he was wrestling coach. My mother still walks 2 miles every other day.

I don't think the problem is that black people are left to die. First off, that would be a lawsuit. Second, hospitals don't get money if you die. Hard to collect money from dead people. Third, it does matter where you go. If you go to a crappy hospital, you get crappy care. My family would never go to the government funded OSU hospital. That place is a death trap. We go to the private hospital that costs more. Yeah, we have a bigger bill, but we get better care, by far.

Where I live, its the public hospitals that give minorities the best of the best care...private hospitals only care about money and white people

Condolences for your loss Tiger and your loneliness through these times.

Soes you know private hospitals don't give a crap about white people without money either. The only way to get the best care is to find the best doctors that actually care about you as a person. They are a rare breed these days simply due to the way the system has been. I felt very blessed to get a few doctors that wanted only the best care for me as a person in the last few years. Now if I listened to the local corps I be nothing more than a quick buck to them for doing what they consider standard surgeries. One way to get the best medical care is to become an informed patient as there is no better advocate for you than you.

Actually that's not true either. I've gone to the hospital without money, or insurance.

I'm not sure what you think happens when you do this... but they send you something called a "Bill". And you just pay the bill.

If the bill is more than you have, then you pay what you can every single month. I did this. It was good almost two years, paying off that medical bill.

But I got good care, and it was well worth the money. So I paid it.

Just pay for care. Would you work for someone, if they didn't pay you? No. You would expect proper pay, for work given. Right?

Well... why would hospitals be any different? Pay for what you want, like an adult. Grow up.

Sometimes, no most of the time you are simply a dickhead not worth considering. Hospitals still are bound by federal law when they have been built with federal dollars to care for anyone regardless of their financial situation that is why you got that initial care when you walked through their doors.

And as usual you are clueless as you make up some sort of scenario and make assumptions in your pea brain without knowing jack about another person's life circumstances, insurances, finances, etc... so go fuck yourself as I am simply not in the mood to converse with you.

If I said something that sounded like "I care what you think of me personally" then I apologize for that.

Your opinion of me personally, matters to no one I care about, and certainly not me.

"private hospitals don't give a crap about white people without money either"

"Hospitals still are bound by federal law when they have been built with federal dollars to care for anyone regardless of their financial situation that is why you got that initial care when you walked through their doors."

Yes. You are correct.

so go fuck yourself as I am simply not in the mood to converse with you.

You are free to not post on the forum. As for me, I'll say whatever I want, when I want, how I want, and what you think I should do... never mattered to me.

Know your place, child. You are not that important.

It has nothing to do with your opinion. It is your total ignorance and the pride you exhibit in having it. You are free to post whatever and I am also free to do the same.

Thanks. Didn't need your permission. Just remember that when you try and tell others what to do.

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was your tradeoff not paying premiums to get an inflated bill - your lucky they did not take your house away even for a broken finger nail.

 

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My big brother died, July 7 of a stroke.....it was sudden, without warning and he was gone. The very next day, July 8 would have been his 64 birthday. I have been crying ever since. Now the cruelty....because I have been in self isolation since the word came out, I am without a hug, without my family, without our mom, I am alone. Although the family talk via the phone, of course its not the same......I need a shoulder to rest my heart on, a kiss on the forehead for assurance, something to bring his cold cruel death to warmth.

Were it under any other circumstances, I could make it through this, but Covid won't let me.

His wake, is Sunday and although I plan to attend, I am without a doubt, fearful as hell. My family, his wife, is of the old school mentality, as is his church, the more the merrier......will every one come masked? or will they not??? I don't know and like I said, I am terrified to be among the mourners....So far from all the video I've been receiving, as they celebrated his birthday, no masks, just tears and sadness, like I said, I am scared as hell about Sunday and this wake. I will not attend the funeral Monday, because word is out, 70 mourners will be accommodated....I am beside myself with guilt, sadness and grief.

This virus, this hell, is beyond the heart, its tearing away at my soul. My anxiety is over the top, I can't drink enough liquor to get me through this guilt and the fear. My 83 year old mother will be at this funeral and I am beside myself with fear. But mama must say good bye to her first born and I understand. I feel like a coward, I feel hopeless, but I'm afraid, so afraid to go.

I had hoped the wife would arrange a private viewing for the immediate family and plan a virtual funereal, but she needs the support from all his friends and family.....I understand...but I can't get passed the reality that black funerals end so often with black people becoming infected and dying...I've heard to many stories about this, but still I feel like a coward.

Covid-19 has stripped me finally of everything, including my heart. Her cruelty, I bow to you, you win!!

May my big brother sleep in heavenly peace and forgive me for being afraid and a coward.

Had a friend that lived near my father, had his father pass away suddenly without warning. This was in June.

We all went to the funeral, and no one had masks on.

We just decided we're not going to live in fear. Life is short dude. You can't just down your entire life, over a pathetic virus.

My father is 77, has asthma, and has diabetes. He's about as high in the risk category as you can get. If he was around a doctor, they'd be telling him to wear masks, and hide in the basement.

He looked me in the eyes "I've lived a good life. I'm 77. If the Lord calls me home, then I am ready to go. But I'm not going to waste the months I have left living in fear".

We went to the funeral, and we went to 4th of July, and we went to the beach, and we hanged out with friends, and we had BBQ at the lake house.

We're not going to live in fear.

You want my opinion? You should do the same. Life is too short to waste it. You have one chance in this world to live in the Blessing of the Lord. Be free of fear, live wisely, and live your life.

63% of the 130,000 ppl who have died so far, are blacks....ppl like me and there's a reason for it. Its not that we don't have healthcare, I do, its not that we're all unhealthy with underlying deceases, white ppl have that too, its just that the medical community as does this country, do not VALUE US, as they do others and that is just fact. A overweight 63 year old black women showing up in ER with this shit, vs the same in others, I'm a dead woman, for sure. And the way life has been going for me so far this year, it hasn't been good. Today is the day for the wake, I'll see how this goes and make up my mind later, meanwhile, again thanks to all for the support, the Tiger appreciates it.

I don't believe that at all. You would have to prove that black people are exactly identical to whites in all areas.

My father in his late 70s, still goes and lifts weights, like he did when he was wrestling coach. My mother still walks 2 miles every other day.

I don't think the problem is that black people are left to die. First off, that would be a lawsuit. Second, hospitals don't get money if you die. Hard to collect money from dead people. Third, it does matter where you go. If you go to a crappy hospital, you get crappy care. My family would never go to the government funded OSU hospital. That place is a death trap. We go to the private hospital that costs more. Yeah, we have a bigger bill, but we get better care, by far.

Where I live, its the public hospitals that give minorities the best of the best care...private hospitals only care about money and white people

Condolences for your loss Tiger and your loneliness through these times.

Soes you know private hospitals don't give a crap about white people without money either. The only way to get the best care is to find the best doctors that actually care about you as a person. They are a rare breed these days simply due to the way the system has been. I felt very blessed to get a few doctors that wanted only the best care for me as a person in the last few years. Now if I listened to the local corps I be nothing more than a quick buck to them for doing what they consider standard surgeries. One way to get the best medical care is to become an informed patient as there is no better advocate for you than you.

Actually that's not true either. I've gone to the hospital without money, or insurance.

I'm not sure what you think happens when you do this... but they send you something called a "Bill". And you just pay the bill.

If the bill is more than you have, then you pay what you can every single month. I did this. It was good almost two years, paying off that medical bill.

But I got good care, and it was well worth the money. So I paid it.

Just pay for care. Would you work for someone, if they didn't pay you? No. You would expect proper pay, for work given. Right?

Well... why would hospitals be any different? Pay for what you want, like an adult. Grow up.

Sometimes, no most of the time you are simply a dickhead not worth considering. Hospitals still are

My big brother died, July 7 of a stroke.....it was sudden, without warning and he was gone. The very next day, July 8 would have been his 64 birthday. I have been crying ever since. Now the cruelty....because I have been in self isolation since the word came out, I am without a hug, without my family, without our mom, I am alone. Although the family talk via the phone, of course its not the same......I need a shoulder to rest my heart on, a kiss on the forehead for assurance, something to bring his cold cruel death to warmth.

Were it under any other circumstances, I could make it through this, but Covid won't let me.

His wake, is Sunday and although I plan to attend, I am without a doubt, fearful as hell. My family, his wife, is of the old school mentality, as is his church, the more the merrier......will every one come masked? or will they not??? I don't know and like I said, I am terrified to be among the mourners....So far from all the video I've been receiving, as they celebrated his birthday, no masks, just tears and sadness, like I said, I am scared as hell about Sunday and this wake. I will not attend the funeral Monday, because word is out, 70 mourners will be accommodated....I am beside myself with guilt, sadness and grief.

This virus, this hell, is beyond the heart, its tearing away at my soul. My anxiety is over the top, I can't drink enough liquor to get me through this guilt and the fear. My 83 year old mother will be at this funeral and I am beside myself with fear. But mama must say good bye to her first born and I understand. I feel like a coward, I feel hopeless, but I'm afraid, so afraid to go.

I had hoped the wife would arrange a private viewing for the immediate family and plan a virtual funereal, but she needs the support from all his friends and family.....I understand...but I can't get passed the reality that black funerals end so often with black people becoming infected and dying...I've heard to many stories about this, but still I feel like a coward.

Covid-19 has stripped me finally of everything, including my heart. Her cruelty, I bow to you, you win!!

May my big brother sleep in heavenly peace and forgive me for being afraid and a coward.

Had a friend that lived near my father, had his father pass away suddenly without warning. This was in June.

We all went to the funeral, and no one had masks on.

We just decided we're not going to live in fear. Life is short dude. You can't just down your entire life, over a pathetic virus.

My father is 77, has asthma, and has diabetes. He's about as high in the risk category as you can get. If he was around a doctor, they'd be telling him to wear masks, and hide in the basement.

He looked me in the eyes "I've lived a good life. I'm 77. If the Lord calls me home, then I am ready to go. But I'm not going to waste the months I have left living in fear".

We went to the funeral, and we went to 4th of July, and we went to the beach, and we hanged out with friends, and we had BBQ at the lake house.

We're not going to live in fear.

You want my opinion? You should do the same. Life is too short to waste it. You have one chance in this world to live in the Blessing of the Lord. Be free of fear, live wisely, and live your life.

63% of the 130,000 ppl who have died so far, are blacks....ppl like me and there's a reason for it. Its not that we don't have healthcare, I do, its not that we're all unhealthy with underlying deceases, white ppl have that too, its just that the medical community as does this country, do not VALUE US, as they do others and that is just fact. A overweight 63 year old black women showing up in ER with this shit, vs the same in others, I'm a dead woman, for sure. And the way life has been going for me so far this year, it hasn't been good. Today is the day for the wake, I'll see how this goes and make up my mind later, meanwhile, again thanks to all for the support, the Tiger appreciates it.

I don't believe that at all. You would have to prove that black people are exactly identical to whites in all areas.

My father in his late 70s, still goes and lifts weights, like he did when he was wrestling coach. My mother still walks 2 miles every other day.

I don't think the problem is that black people are left to die. First off, that would be a lawsuit. Second, hospitals don't get money if you die. Hard to collect money from dead people. Third, it does matter where you go. If you go to a crappy hospital, you get crappy care. My family would never go to the government funded OSU hospital. That place is a death trap. We go to the private hospital that costs more. Yeah, we have a bigger bill, but we get better care, by far.

Where I live, its the public hospitals that give minorities the best of the best care...private hospitals only care about money and white people

Condolences for your loss Tiger and your loneliness through these times.

Soes you know private hospitals don't give a crap about white people without money either. The only way to get the best care is to find the best doctors that actually care about you as a person. They are a rare breed these days simply due to the way the system has been. I felt very blessed to get a few doctors that wanted only the best care for me as a person in the last few years. Now if I listened to the local corps I be nothing more than a quick buck to them for doing what they consider standard surgeries. One way to get the best medical care is to become an informed patient as there is no better advocate for you than you.

Actually that's not true either. I've gone to the hospital without money, or insurance.

I'm not sure what you think happens when you do this... but they send you something called a "Bill". And you just pay the bill.

If the bill is more than you have, then you pay what you can every single month. I did this. It was good almost two years, paying off that medical bill.

But I got good care, and it was well worth the money. So I paid it.

Just pay for care. Would you work for someone, if they didn't pay you? No. You would expect proper pay, for work given. Right?

Well... why would hospitals be any different? Pay for what you want, like an adult. Grow up.

Sometimes, no most of the time you are simply a dickhead not worth considering. Hospitals still are bound by federal law when they have been built with federal dollars to care for anyone regardless of their financial situation that is why you got that initial care when you walked through their doors.

And as usual you are clueless as you make up some sort of scenario and make assumptions in your pea brain without knowing jack about another person's life circumstances, insurances, finances, etc... so go fuck yourself as I am simply not in the mood to converse with you.

If I said something that sounded like "I care what you think of me personally" then I apologize for that.

Your opinion of me personally, matters to no one I care about, and certainly not me.

"private hospitals don't give a crap about white people without money either"

"Hospitals still are bound by federal law when they have been built with federal dollars to care for anyone regardless of their financial situation that is why you got that initial care when you walked through their doors."

Yes. You are correct.

so go fuck yourself as I am simply not in the mood to converse with you.

You are free to not post on the forum. As for me, I'll say whatever I want, when I want, how I want, and what you think I should do... never mattered to me.

Know your place, child. You are not that important.

It has nothing to do with your opinion. It is your total ignorance and the pride you exhibit in having it. You are free to post whatever and I am also free to do the same.

Thanks. Didn't need your permission. Just remember that when you try and tell others what to do.

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was your tradeoff not paying premiums to get an inflated bill - your lucky they did not take your house away even for a broken finger nail.

I don't know what you are talking about. They can't 'take your house'. I know people that have medical bills that are 15 years old, that they just refuse to pay, and they lose nothing.

They can put a lien on your house, but that does not really do anything, unless you try and sell the house.

One lady I know, (and I don't know how this worked), but every tax return, they just collected her refund. That was like 6 years, every year they just confiscated her tax refund, until she was paid off. (seemed really strange to me, but whatever).

Further you can negotiate to settle the debt. The best option is to just talk to the hospital. Most hospitals will work with you.

For me, I just paid $100 a month, for two years. The care was worth it, and they accepted that.