Zone1 The Cross: Four aspects of Christ and his suffering.

[OneIsTheWord]

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(1) physical suffering by the hands of men, tied Jesus to post and whipped down and scorn by men for six hours non-stop after they fashion a crown and trusted upon his head, then tried by his people, and sentenced to death, he carry his cross about 3 hours across a road call by Via Dolorosa (Latin for Way of Grief or Way of Suffering) at 9 am begin to put him on the cross.

(2) physical suffering, at stretched him on the cross, drove stakes into his hands and feet, and then crucifixion, was a death of slow suffocation, every time he wanted to breath the pain in his wrist and hands, then his feet once he could no longer use the wrist and hands. From the tip of his fingers to the tip of his toes and all in between, he felt the horrible pain of crucifixion at noon.

(3) All the guilt for all the sins of all his elect, God the Father said, he bore our sin in his body and said that Jesus Christ on the cross became the object of God’s judgment and punishment. On top of that, he took our shame, guilt, sins, complaints, selfishness, pride, and every drop of our faults. We are just one of these persons; multiply the guilt, shame, sins, etc. by a billion people, and you and I could never begin to acknowledge it. The crucifixion was not just a man dying; it was the son of God, who hated sin, had no part of sin, and was bearing the guilt, the awesome, powerful weight of all of the elect.

(4) part of his suffering was the fact that those he loved, the disciples which he ate, slept and taught with, he shared the revelation of the truth of God with them, things no one had ever heard, here he was crying out to his Father on the toughest night, if it be your will let this cup pass over me, the disciples fell asleep in his moment of need. When he was hanging on the cross, he said 12 hours, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me, and 3 hours in hell. It was bad enough he was abandoned by his friends, but abandoned by his heavenly father, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? He knew why he came: to give his life as a ransom for many and bring those out of hell. When God saw him, he saw him as sin, the sin bearer. All the judgment of God came upon Jesus. All that God saw in Jesus was pure sin. All the judgment of God came on sin that he had hated so much; the wickedness of sin poured down his fury came upon him.
The object of God’s hatred and animosity.

(5) All the sins stored up all those years from time passed to very president, and the future God, in all his fury and hatred of sin, came up on the Lord Jesus Christ, he punished Jesus for your sin and my sin. Everything God the Father hated about sin he punished Jesus with, wave after wave of God’s wrath, wave after wave of God’s judgment, then it subsided, and Jesus said it was finished. The final sacrifice, the atonement of the son of the elect. Suddenly it was over, and then Jesus said, Into thy hands I command my spirit, There is no death like the death of Jesus, no one ever bore the weight of our sin or the wrath of God as he did. The grace of God the Father. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.

 

[0311]

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(1) physical suffering by the hands of men, tied Jesus to post and whipped down and scorn by men for six hours non-stop after they fashion a crown and trusted upon his head, then tried by his people, and sentenced to death, he carry his cross about 3 hours across a road call by Via Dolorosa (Latin for Way of Grief or Way of Suffering) at 9 am begin to put him on the cross.

(2) physical suffering, at stretched him on the cross, drove stakes into his hands and feet, and then crucifixion, was a death of slow suffocation, every time he wanted to breath the pain in his wrist and hands, then his feet once he could no longer use the wrist and hands. From the tip of his fingers to the tip of his toes and all in between, he felt the horrible pain of crucifixion at noon.

(3) All the guilt for all the sins of all his elect, God the Father said, he bore our sin in his body and said that Jesus Christ on the cross became the object of God’s judgment and punishment. On top of that, he took our shame, guilt, sins, complaints, selfishness, pride, and every drop of our faults. We are just one of these persons; multiply the guilt, shame, sins, etc. by a billion people, and you and I could never begin to acknowledge it. The crucifixion was not just a man dying; it was the son of God, who hated sin, had no part of sin, and was bearing the guilt, the awesome, powerful weight of all of the elect.

(4) part of his suffering was the fact that those he loved, the disciples which he ate, slept and taught with, he shared the revelation of the truth of God with them, things no one had ever heard, here he was crying out to his Father on the toughest night, if it be your will let this cup pass over me, the disciples fell asleep in his moment of need. When he was hanging on the cross, he said 12 hours, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me, and 3 hours in hell. It was bad enough he was abandoned by his friends, but abandoned by his heavenly father, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? He knew why he came: to give his life as a ransom for many and bring those out of hell. When God saw him, he saw him as sin, the sin bearer. All the judgment of God came upon Jesus. All that God saw in Jesus was pure sin. All the judgment of God came on sin that he had hated so much; the wickedness of sin poured down his fury came upon him.
The object of God’s hatred and animosity.

(5) All the sins stored up all those years from time passed to very president, and the future God, in all his fury and hatred of sin, came up on the Lord Jesus Christ, he punished Jesus for your sin and my sin. Everything God the Father hated about sin he punished Jesus with, wave after wave of God’s wrath, wave after wave of God’s judgment, then it subsided, and Jesus said it was finished. The final sacrifice, the atonement of the son of the elect. Suddenly it was over, and then Jesus said, Into thy hands I command my spirit, There is no death like the death of Jesus, no one ever bore the weight of our sin or the wrath of God as he did. The grace of God the Father. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.

ROTMFLMAO. The outright lies you people believe.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

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(1) physical suffering by the hands of men, tied Jesus to post and whipped down and scorn by men for six hours non-stop after they fashion a crown and trusted upon his head, then tried by his people, and sentenced to death, he carry his cross about 3 hours across a road call by Via Dolorosa (Latin for Way of Grief or Way of Suffering) at 9 am begin to put him on the cross.

(2) physical suffering, at stretched him on the cross, drove stakes into his hands and feet, and then crucifixion, was a death of slow suffocation, every time he wanted to breath the pain in his wrist and hands, then his feet once he could no longer use the wrist and hands. From the tip of his fingers to the tip of his toes and all in between, he felt the horrible pain of crucifixion at noon.

(3) All the guilt for all the sins of all his elect, God the Father said, he bore our sin in his body and said that Jesus Christ on the cross became the object of God’s judgment and punishment. On top of that, he took our shame, guilt, sins, complaints, selfishness, pride, and every drop of our faults. We are just one of these persons; multiply the guilt, shame, sins, etc. by a billion people, and you and I could never begin to acknowledge it. The crucifixion was not just a man dying; it was the son of God, who hated sin, had no part of sin, and was bearing the guilt, the awesome, powerful weight of all of the elect.

(4) part of his suffering was the fact that those he loved, the disciples which he ate, slept and taught with, he shared the revelation of the truth of God with them, things no one had ever heard, here he was crying out to his Father on the toughest night, if it be your will let this cup pass over me, the disciples fell asleep in his moment of need. When he was hanging on the cross, he said 12 hours, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me, and 3 hours in hell. It was bad enough he was abandoned by his friends, but abandoned by his heavenly father, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? He knew why he came: to give his life as a ransom for many and bring those out of hell. When God saw him, he saw him as sin, the sin bearer. All the judgment of God came upon Jesus. All that God saw in Jesus was pure sin. All the judgment of God came on sin that he had hated so much; the wickedness of sin poured down his fury came upon him.
The object of God’s hatred and animosity.

(5) All the sins stored up all those years from time passed to very president, and the future God, in all his fury and hatred of sin, came up on the Lord Jesus Christ, he punished Jesus for your sin and my sin. Everything God the Father hated about sin he punished Jesus with, wave after wave of God’s wrath, wave after wave of God’s judgment, then it subsided, and Jesus said it was finished. The final sacrifice, the atonement of the son of the elect. Suddenly it was over, and then Jesus said, Into thy hands I command my spirit, There is no death like the death of Jesus, no one ever bore the weight of our sin or the wrath of God as he did. The grace of God the Father. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.

How is it suffering when:

Jesus is allegedly also "God"?
Everyone dies eventually.
Little girls and boys are also tortured by maniac sex offenders.
He knew he was going to live on for eternity.
Others were also hung for sedition at that time period and upside down along a road for crows to eat.
His alleged beating lasted less than a few hours. Not even a blip in time for an eternal being.

 

[BreezeWood]

the death of jesus pails in comparison to the crimes desert dwellers reep on planet earth -

since their death to the present day - proving their absolute insincerity. to remember the sabbath the heavenly creation of life - to keep holy

 

[BreezeWood]

the death of jesus pails in comparison to the crimes desert dwellers reep on planet earth, daily -

since their death to the present day - proving their absolute insincerity. to remember the sabbath the heavenly creation of life - to keep holy

 

[OneIsTheWord]

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(1) physical suffering by the hands of men, tied Jesus to post and whipped down and scorn by men for six hours non-stop after they fashion a crown and trusted upon his head, then tried by his people, and sentenced to death, he carry his cross about 3 hours across a road call by Via Dolorosa (Latin for Way of Grief or Way of Suffering) at 9 am begin to put him on the cross.

(2) physical suffering, at stretched him on the cross, drove stakes into his hands and feet, and then crucifixion, was a death of slow suffocation, every time he wanted to breath the pain in his wrist and hands, then his feet once he could no longer use the wrist and hands. From the tip of his fingers to the tip of his toes and all in between, he felt the horrible pain of crucifixion at noon.

(3) All the guilt for all the sins of all his elect, God the Father said, he bore our sin in his body and said that Jesus Christ on the cross became the object of God’s judgment and punishment. On top of that, he took our shame, guilt, sins, complaints, selfishness, pride, and every drop of our faults. We are just one of these persons; multiply the guilt, shame, sins, etc. by a billion people, and you and I could never begin to acknowledge it. The crucifixion was not just a man dying; it was the son of God, who hated sin, had no part of sin, and was bearing the guilt, the awesome, powerful weight of all of the elect.

(4) part of his suffering was the fact that those he loved, the disciples which he ate, slept and taught with, he shared the revelation of the truth of God with them, things no one had ever heard, here he was crying out to his Father on the toughest night, if it be your will let this cup pass over me, the disciples fell asleep in his moment of need. When he was hanging on the cross, he said 12 hours, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me, and 3 hours in hell. It was bad enough he was abandoned by his friends, but abandoned by his heavenly father, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? He knew why he came: to give his life as a ransom for many and bring those out of hell. When God saw him, he saw him as sin, the sin bearer. All the judgment of God came upon Jesus. All that God saw in Jesus was pure sin. All the judgment of God came on sin that he had hated so much; the wickedness of sin poured down his fury came upon him.
The object of God’s hatred and animosity.

(5) All the sins stored up all those years from time passed to very president, and the future God, in all his fury and hatred of sin, came up on the Lord Jesus Christ, he punished Jesus for your sin and my sin. Everything God the Father hated about sin he punished Jesus with, wave after wave of God’s wrath, wave after wave of God’s judgment, then it subsided, and Jesus said it was finished. The final sacrifice, the atonement of the son of the elect. Suddenly it was over, and then Jesus said, Into thy hands I command my spirit, There is no death like the death of Jesus, no one ever bore the weight of our sin or the wrath of God as he did. The grace of God the Father. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God

My old ways
Colossians 2:14 nailing it to his cross.​

Colossians 2:11-23 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.
And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them. So let no one judge you in food or drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,
which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments, grows with the increase that is from God.
Therefore, if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations--
"Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle."
which all concern things which perish with the using--according to the commandments and doctrines of men?
These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh.

 

[BreezeWood]

then it subsided, and Jesus said it was finished.

- proving their absolute insincerity to remember the sabbath the heavenly creation of life - to keep holy.

what was finished - 2500 years ago ... asking for a friend.

 

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the death of jesus pails in comparison to the crimes desert dwellers reep on planet earth -

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since their death to the present day - proving their absolute insincerity. to remember the sabbath the heavenly creation of life - to keep holy

Was that a picture from 911?

 

[BreezeWood]

Was that a picture from 911?

a picture of today's christian neighborhoods ...

because of the crucifixion, the crucifiers having yet to be brought to justice who rule unjustly and w/ impunity using their phony 4th century christian bible to sin ever more without remorse.

so what is finished as their book alludes ... is that 911.

 

[ding]

a picture of today's christian neighborhoods ...

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because of the crucifixion, the crucifiers having yet to be brought to justice who rule unjustly and w/ impunity using their phony 4th century christian bible to sin ever more without remorse.

so what is finished as their book alludes ... is that 911.

I'm sure you believe that too.

 

[BreezeWood]

I'm sure you believe that too.

believe what -

whose other creation is the above than desert dwellers - an example of texas and their beliefs, religion ...

not as jesus taught, remember the sabbath - the heavenly creation of life ... to keep holy - concrete is more important for them and fast food counters.

 

[ding]

believe what -

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whose other creation is the above than desert dwellers - an example of texas and their beliefs, religion ...

not as jesus taught, remember the sabbath - the heavenly creation of life ... to keep holy - concrete is more important for them and fast food counters.

I think you are melting down.

 

[BreezeWood]

I think you are melting down.

a picture of today's christian neighborhoods ...

what was finished - 2500 years ago ...

they think the same as their ability to comprehend ... texas vigilantes, how they destroy life, garden earth using their christian bible book of forgeries and fallacies. their sabbath, the fast food counter.

 

[luiza]

Feel sorry for Jesus the Essene who spent around 30 years after his alleged death moving round Asia Minor and dying with his elder son present ca 60AD .

Poor guy never envisaged the Hoax the early Church would play on Sheeple .

 

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they think the same as their ability to comprehend ... texas vigilantes, how they destroy life, garden earth using their christian bible book of forgeries and fallacies. their sabbath, the fast food counter.

And you thought what I wrote was rhetoric.

 

[BreezeWood]

And you thought what I wrote was rhetoric.

that's more credit than what you write is worthy ...

the death of jesus pails in comparison to the crimes desert dwellers wreak on planet earth, daily -

since their death to the present day - proving their absolute insincerity to remember the sabbath the heavenly creation of life - to keep holy.

jesus in no way whatsoever would endorse your 4th century christianity.

 

[ding]

that's more credit than what you write is worthy ...



jesus in no way whatsoever would endorse your 4th century christianity.

That was rhetoric too.

 

[Woodznutz]

what was finished - 2500 years ago ... asking for a friend.

The Old Covenant.

 

[BreezeWood]

The Old Covenant.

yet the false commandments claimed by the liar moses are written in the christian bible, judaisms hereditary idolatry the religions of apartheid et al ... proving the vane attempt that failed by jesus made so deliberately by the crucifiers.