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The Consternation Of A Conservative

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1.How about this as a new understanding of what motivates a conservative: a recognition of what Western Civilization has accomplished and a desire to see that provision and promise continue.

It could be that simple: conservatives desire the perpetuation of America and the journey Western Civilization has taken to lead us to this: The American dream has always included material aspiration, especially for those who start out with little or nothing. But as James Truslow Adams —who popularized the term in his 1931 history, "The Epic of America"—wrote, it was "not a dream of motor cars and high wages merely, but a dream of social order in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable, and be recognized by others for what they are, regardless of the fortuitous circumstances of birth or position."

And we are most of the way there….but have to recon with those who hate America, American heritage and values, and even the American flag:

NYT, MSNBC contributor shocks critics by saying it was ...
NYT, MSNBC contributor shocks critics by saying it was ‘disturbing’ to see ‘American flags’ flying during Long Island trip
MSNBC contributor Mara Gay has said it was "disturbing" for her to see American flags flown during a recent trip to Long Island, New York, likening the images to hate symbols.




2.What brought that idea to mind was this passage in a Vince Flynn novel:

“Great civilizations rose and fell as surely as the tides. The Egyptians, the Incas, the Mayans, the Greeks, the Persians, the Romans, the Mongol empire, the Ottoman empire all came and went. The Austro-Hungarian empire, the French, the British, the Russians, and the Nazis would someday merit only a footnote. Who knew what waited for the Americans? The other superpower, the Soviet Union, had lasted less than a hundred years with their grand experiment of communism. A blink as far as history was concerned. If Abel had to guess, America’s preeminence on the world stage would last no more than another hundred years. The country had too many rights and too much wealth. Not enough sacrifice. Too much selfishness. The civilizations that had made their mark did so through brutality or great self-sacrifice by the populace, and often both. The Chinese would become the next sole superpower.”
“Consent To Kill”


The brilliant view of history contained in that passage is that the control of human passions led to prosperity, prosperity led to license and corruption, and that led to the internecine warfare that destroys a society.





3. Consider the journey from the jungle and paganism and to this

This is what we had within our grasp
: Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.



4. What made it possible?


"This is the great contribution of our Judeo-Christian foundation to Western civilization. The principles of justice are laid down in the Torah and the Gospels, and implemented through human actions memorialized in judicial codes.
The written laws and rules are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience."
David Mamet



And, under Democrats/Liberals/Progressives, the book that sets forth the rules, the manual itself, is banned in the government school system.
 

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It is noteworthy and apropos that a Chinese American mom was recently YouTubed excoriating her local school board for mounting an ideological campaign NOT UNLIKE the Cultural Revolution of China which, first of all, sought to disparage, slander, and "cancel" that country's great culture and traditions, to make way for the New Order in which the State defines all.


How bizarre it is to live in a time when "we" must seek to remind The People of the tremendous strides, accomplishments, and precedents that have been brought about by, basically, many generations of WHITE, PROTESTANT, fairly WEALTHY MEN, because those facts make today's misfits uncomfortable. Indeed, without the work, sacrifice, and foresight of those white, protestant, wealthy men, the very pipsqueaks who complain of such ephemeral plagues as "systemic racism" would be living in a shithole country like the ones currently feeding the frenzy at our southern border.

Ask these pampered Blacks, queers, wimmin, etc., what country they could possibly live in where their lives would be better. And I mean REAL countries, not the imaginary social-democrat paradises of Western Europe, that exist only in their tiny pink-shaded brains.
 
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It is noteworthy and apropos that a Chinese American mom was recently YouTubed excoriating her local school board for mounting an ideological campaign NOT UNLIKE the Cultural Revolution of China which, first of all, sought to disparage, slander, and "cancel" that country's great culture and traditions, to make way for the New Order in which the State defines all.


How bizarre it is to live in a time when "we" must seek to remind The People of the tremendous strides, accomplishments, and precedents that have been brought about by, basically, many generations of WHITE, PROTESTANT, fairly WEALTHY MEN, because those facts make today's misfits uncomfortable. Indeed, without the work, sacrifice, and foresight of those white, protestant, wealthy men, the very pipsqueaks who complain of such ephemeral plagues as "systemic racism" would be living in a shithole country like the ones currently feeding the frenzy at our southern border.

Ask these pampered Blacks, queers, wimmin, etc., what country they could possibly live in where their lives would be better. And I mean REAL countries, not the imaginary social-democrat paradises of Western Europe, that exist only in their tiny pink-shaded brains.



When I saw her vid, it brought to mind.....


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"An engrossing record of Mao’s impact on China, an unusual window on the female experience in the modern world, and an inspiring tale of courage and love, Jung Chang describes the extraordinary lives and experiences of her family members: her grandmother, a warlord’s concubine; her mother’s struggles as a young idealistic Communist; and her parents’ experience as members of the Communist elite and their ordeal during the Cultural Revolution. Chang was a Red Guard briefly at the age of fourteen, then worked as a peasant, a “barefoot doctor,” a steelworker, and an electrician. As the story of each generation unfolds, Chang captures in gripping, moving—and ultimately uplifting—detail the cycles of violent drama visited on her own family and millions of others caught in the whirlwind of history."
Amazon




Would never be recommended in government school.
 
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5. John Adams wrote:

“Because we have no government armed with power capable of contending with human Passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, Ambition, Revenge or galantry, would break the strongest Cords of our Constitution as a Whale goes through a Net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”



And:

"It may be a reflection on human nature that such devices [checks and balances] should be necessary to control the abuses of government. But what is government itself but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither internal nor external controls on government would be necessary." Federalist #51





When it comes right down to it, it is always a conflict of materialism versus spiritualism.
 
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6. Have you noticed how angry Democrats/Liberals always are??? Even when they get away with stealing the election, and completely censoring opposing voices, they are vulgar and bitter.

Why?

Guilt.

They recognize that the morality that is always nearly hidden from their consciousness will never allow them to enjoy their victories.

Morality is honesty in dealing with others, keeping promises, and behaving in a way that allows other to live in a way that they desire.

But the ‘morality’ to which the Left has subscribed is more correctly called ‘license’….

freedom that allows or is used with irresponsibilityFreedom of the press should not be turned into license.

b: disregard for standards of personal conduct : LICENTIOUSNESS

Definition of LICENSE



A prime example of the sort of ‘morality’ of the Left, the Democrats, is "President Obama pushed that act through Congress in his first term with true messianic zeal (and more than casual disregard for legislative procedure). The Obamacare law gave the federal government power to define “health.” And for liberalism, “health” includes being able to have sex without consequences, and hence being able to get contraceptives and, in case they fail, backup emergency contraception—in other words, abortifacients.”
Benjamin Wiker.

Concomitant with this ‘morality’ is the free slaughter of the unborn that these Liberals have created.
 
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7. As seen above, it is a mistake to accuse the Liberals/Progressives of having no morality.

Morality: “a particular system of values and principles of conduct, especially one held by a specified person or society.” (Google)

It’s simply a morality that most civilized human being left behind when we moved from savagery. Ironically, 'progressive' means the exact opposite...back to pagan times.

" When morality became privatized, the questions “what is right” became “what is right for me.” Feelings... became the arbiters of behavior. Rather than traditional taboos, only religiously based moral judgment was deemed taboo. The harm caused to abandoned spouses or children by adultery or desertion- harm that can be objectively documented in rates of ill health, depression, educational underachievement, criminal behavior- was all but ignored, while damage done to people’s feelings by condemnation of their adultery or desertion was considered unforgiveable."
"The World Turned Upside Down," Melanie Phillips, chapter 14




It is a very different view of the sort of behavior that produced Western Civilization:

The millennia-long evolution of the human family as a means of dealing with the environment was discarded by the 60’s generation of fantasists, in favor of a concept not only artificial, but inchoate: “freedom.” It was done through the a ‘new social vision,’ chock full of ‘good ideas,’….feminism, birth control, ‘diversity,’ free love, welfare, affirmative action, and a profusion of other counter cultural’ innovations.



Today’s Left demands the destruction of the family itself.
 

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1.How about this as a new understanding of what motivates a conservative: a recognition of what Western Civilization has accomplished and a desire to see that provision and promise continue.

It could be that simple: conservatives desire the perpetuation of America and the journey Western Civilization has taken to lead us to this: The American dream has always included material aspiration, especially for those who start out with little or nothing. But as James Truslow Adams —who popularized the term in his 1931 history, "The Epic of America"—wrote, it was "not a dream of motor cars and high wages merely, but a dream of social order in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable, and be recognized by others for what they are, regardless of the fortuitous circumstances of birth or position."

And we are most of the way there….but have to recon with those who hate America, American heritage and values, and even the American flag:

NYT, MSNBC contributor shocks critics by saying it was ...
NYT, MSNBC contributor shocks critics by saying it was ‘disturbing’ to see ‘American flags’ flying during Long Island trip
MSNBC contributor Mara Gay has said it was "disturbing" for her to see American flags flown during a recent trip to Long Island, New York, likening the images to hate symbols.




2.What brought that idea to mind was this passage in a Vince Flynn novel:

“Great civilizations rose and fell as surely as the tides. The Egyptians, the Incas, the Mayans, the Greeks, the Persians, the Romans, the Mongol empire, the Ottoman empire all came and went. The Austro-Hungarian empire, the French, the British, the Russians, and the Nazis would someday merit only a footnote. Who knew what waited for the Americans? The other superpower, the Soviet Union, had lasted less than a hundred years with their grand experiment of communism. A blink as far as history was concerned. If Abel had to guess, America’s preeminence on the world stage would last no more than another hundred years. The country had too many rights and too much wealth. Not enough sacrifice. Too much selfishness. The civilizations that had made their mark did so through brutality or great self-sacrifice by the populace, and often both. The Chinese would become the next sole superpower.”
“Consent To Kill”


The brilliant view of history contained in that passage is that the control of human passions led to prosperity, prosperity led to license and corruption, and that led to the internecine warfare that destroys a society.





3. Consider the journey from the jungle and paganism and to this

This is what we had within our grasp
: Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.



4. What made it possible?

"This is the great contribution of our Judeo-Christian foundation to Western civilization. The principles of justice are laid down in the Torah and the Gospels, and implemented through human actions memorialized in judicial codes.
The written laws and rules are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience."
David Mamet




And, under Democrats/Liberals/Progressives, the book that sets forth the rules, the manual itself, is banned in the government school system.
Con-sernation of a Con-servative. Emphasis on the "con".
 
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1.How about this as a new understanding of what motivates a conservative: a recognition of what Western Civilization has accomplished and a desire to see that provision and promise continue.

It could be that simple: conservatives desire the perpetuation of America and the journey Western Civilization has taken to lead us to this: The American dream has always included material aspiration, especially for those who start out with little or nothing. But as James Truslow Adams —who popularized the term in his 1931 history, "The Epic of America"—wrote, it was "not a dream of motor cars and high wages merely, but a dream of social order in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable, and be recognized by others for what they are, regardless of the fortuitous circumstances of birth or position."

And we are most of the way there….but have to recon with those who hate America, American heritage and values, and even the American flag:

NYT, MSNBC contributor shocks critics by saying it was ...
NYT, MSNBC contributor shocks critics by saying it was ‘disturbing’ to see ‘American flags’ flying during Long Island trip
MSNBC contributor Mara Gay has said it was "disturbing" for her to see American flags flown during a recent trip to Long Island, New York, likening the images to hate symbols.




2.What brought that idea to mind was this passage in a Vince Flynn novel:

“Great civilizations rose and fell as surely as the tides. The Egyptians, the Incas, the Mayans, the Greeks, the Persians, the Romans, the Mongol empire, the Ottoman empire all came and went. The Austro-Hungarian empire, the French, the British, the Russians, and the Nazis would someday merit only a footnote. Who knew what waited for the Americans? The other superpower, the Soviet Union, had lasted less than a hundred years with their grand experiment of communism. A blink as far as history was concerned. If Abel had to guess, America’s preeminence on the world stage would last no more than another hundred years. The country had too many rights and too much wealth. Not enough sacrifice. Too much selfishness. The civilizations that had made their mark did so through brutality or great self-sacrifice by the populace, and often both. The Chinese would become the next sole superpower.”
“Consent To Kill”


The brilliant view of history contained in that passage is that the control of human passions led to prosperity, prosperity led to license and corruption, and that led to the internecine warfare that destroys a society.





3. Consider the journey from the jungle and paganism and to this

This is what we had within our grasp
: Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.



4. What made it possible?

"This is the great contribution of our Judeo-Christian foundation to Western civilization. The principles of justice are laid down in the Torah and the Gospels, and implemented through human actions memorialized in judicial codes.
The written laws and rules are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience."
David Mamet




And, under Democrats/Liberals/Progressives, the book that sets forth the rules, the manual itself, is banned in the government school system.
Con-sernation of a Con-servative. Emphasis on the "con".

"Con-sernation"

That should be 'con-sTernation.'


The word means amazement or dismay that hinders or throws into confusion.

So you're not much of a reader, and a government school grad, huh?
 
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1.How about this as a new understanding of what motivates a conservative: a recognition of what Western Civilization has accomplished and a desire to see that provision and promise continue.

It could be that simple: conservatives desire the perpetuation of America and the journey Western Civilization has taken to lead us to this: The American dream has always included material aspiration, especially for those who start out with little or nothing. But as James Truslow Adams —who popularized the term in his 1931 history, "The Epic of America"—wrote, it was "not a dream of motor cars and high wages merely, but a dream of social order in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable, and be recognized by others for what they are, regardless of the fortuitous circumstances of birth or position."

And we are most of the way there….but have to recon with those who hate America, American heritage and values, and even the American flag:

NYT, MSNBC contributor shocks critics by saying it was ...
NYT, MSNBC contributor shocks critics by saying it was ‘disturbing’ to see ‘American flags’ flying during Long Island trip
MSNBC contributor Mara Gay has said it was "disturbing" for her to see American flags flown during a recent trip to Long Island, New York, likening the images to hate symbols.




2.What brought that idea to mind was this passage in a Vince Flynn novel:

“Great civilizations rose and fell as surely as the tides. The Egyptians, the Incas, the Mayans, the Greeks, the Persians, the Romans, the Mongol empire, the Ottoman empire all came and went. The Austro-Hungarian empire, the French, the British, the Russians, and the Nazis would someday merit only a footnote. Who knew what waited for the Americans? The other superpower, the Soviet Union, had lasted less than a hundred years with their grand experiment of communism. A blink as far as history was concerned. If Abel had to guess, America’s preeminence on the world stage would last no more than another hundred years. The country had too many rights and too much wealth. Not enough sacrifice. Too much selfishness. The civilizations that had made their mark did so through brutality or great self-sacrifice by the populace, and often both. The Chinese would become the next sole superpower.”
“Consent To Kill”


The brilliant view of history contained in that passage is that the control of human passions led to prosperity, prosperity led to license and corruption, and that led to the internecine warfare that destroys a society.





3. Consider the journey from the jungle and paganism and to this

This is what we had within our grasp
: Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.



4. What made it possible?

"This is the great contribution of our Judeo-Christian foundation to Western civilization. The principles of justice are laid down in the Torah and the Gospels, and implemented through human actions memorialized in judicial codes.
The written laws and rules are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience."
David Mamet




And, under Democrats/Liberals/Progressives, the book that sets forth the rules, the manual itself, is banned in the government school system.
Con-sernation of a Con-servative. Emphasis on the "con".




This thread really isn't meant for one of your......caliber.
 
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8. ‘Morality,’ to the Left, bears not the slightest similarity to that of the Right.

Under the development of Western Civilization, the Judeo-Christian view of life was central, with it’s tone taken from Genesis 1:26, "And God said, Let us make man in our image.” This obviated both murder, and slavery.



The Old Testament actually echoes the restriction on murder in all five books:

Genesis 9:6 prescribed the death penalty for murder when it said that if a man “shed the blood” of another man, by man must his blood be shed. The only law repeated in all five of the books of the old testament. The death penalty is a value, values are eternal, as opposed to customs or traditions, such as stoning for adultery.

Exodus 21:12-14

Leviticus 24:17 and 21

Numbers 35:16-18 and Numbers 35:31

Deuteronomy 19:11-13





9. The ‘morality’ of the Left is very different. Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."

Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists, Democrats
All of them favor the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


None of the totalitarian forms of political plague have the slightest concern for human life: not communism (gulags), not Nazism (concentration camps), not Liberalism (abortion), not Progressivism (eugenics), not socialism (theft), not fascism (murder).

The Democrats check every one of those boxes.

They only differ in the final outcome: slavery, serfdom, or death.
 

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1.How about this as a new understanding of what motivates a conservative: a recognition of what Western Civilization has accomplished and a desire to see that provision and promise continue.

It could be that simple: conservatives desire the perpetuation of America and the journey Western Civilization has taken to lead us to this: The American dream has always included material aspiration, especially for those who start out with little or nothing. But as James Truslow Adams —who popularized the term in his 1931 history, "The Epic of America"—wrote, it was "not a dream of motor cars and high wages merely, but a dream of social order in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable, and be recognized by others for what they are, regardless of the fortuitous circumstances of birth or position."

And we are most of the way there….but have to recon with those who hate America, American heritage and values, and even the American flag:

NYT, MSNBC contributor shocks critics by saying it was ...
NYT, MSNBC contributor shocks critics by saying it was ‘disturbing’ to see ‘American flags’ flying during Long Island trip
MSNBC contributor Mara Gay has said it was "disturbing" for her to see American flags flown during a recent trip to Long Island, New York, likening the images to hate symbols.




2.What brought that idea to mind was this passage in a Vince Flynn novel:

“Great civilizations rose and fell as surely as the tides. The Egyptians, the Incas, the Mayans, the Greeks, the Persians, the Romans, the Mongol empire, the Ottoman empire all came and went. The Austro-Hungarian empire, the French, the British, the Russians, and the Nazis would someday merit only a footnote. Who knew what waited for the Americans? The other superpower, the Soviet Union, had lasted less than a hundred years with their grand experiment of communism. A blink as far as history was concerned. If Abel had to guess, America’s preeminence on the world stage would last no more than another hundred years. The country had too many rights and too much wealth. Not enough sacrifice. Too much selfishness. The civilizations that had made their mark did so through brutality or great self-sacrifice by the populace, and often both. The Chinese would become the next sole superpower.”
“Consent To Kill”


The brilliant view of history contained in that passage is that the control of human passions led to prosperity, prosperity led to license and corruption, and that led to the internecine warfare that destroys a society.





3. Consider the journey from the jungle and paganism and to this

This is what we had within our grasp
: Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.



4. What made it possible?

"This is the great contribution of our Judeo-Christian foundation to Western civilization. The principles of justice are laid down in the Torah and the Gospels, and implemented through human actions memorialized in judicial codes.
The written laws and rules are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience."
David Mamet




And, under Democrats/Liberals/Progressives, the book that sets forth the rules, the manual itself, is banned in the government school system.
Con-sernation of a Con-servative. Emphasis on the "con".

"Con-sernation"

That should be 'con-sTernation.'


The word means amazement or dismay that hinders or throws into confusion.

So you're not much of a reader, and a government school grad, huh?
Con-sternation. Yes.
 

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1.How about this as a new understanding of what motivates a conservative: a recognition of what Western Civilization has accomplished and a desire to see that provision and promise continue.

It could be that simple: conservatives desire the perpetuation of America and the journey Western Civilization has taken to lead us to this: The American dream has always included material aspiration, especially for those who start out with little or nothing. But as James Truslow Adams —who popularized the term in his 1931 history, "The Epic of America"—wrote, it was "not a dream of motor cars and high wages merely, but a dream of social order in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable, and be recognized by others for what they are, regardless of the fortuitous circumstances of birth or position."

And we are most of the way there….but have to recon with those who hate America, American heritage and values, and even the American flag:

NYT, MSNBC contributor shocks critics by saying it was ...
NYT, MSNBC contributor shocks critics by saying it was ‘disturbing’ to see ‘American flags’ flying during Long Island trip
MSNBC contributor Mara Gay has said it was "disturbing" for her to see American flags flown during a recent trip to Long Island, New York, likening the images to hate symbols.




2.What brought that idea to mind was this passage in a Vince Flynn novel:

“Great civilizations rose and fell as surely as the tides. The Egyptians, the Incas, the Mayans, the Greeks, the Persians, the Romans, the Mongol empire, the Ottoman empire all came and went. The Austro-Hungarian empire, the French, the British, the Russians, and the Nazis would someday merit only a footnote. Who knew what waited for the Americans? The other superpower, the Soviet Union, had lasted less than a hundred years with their grand experiment of communism. A blink as far as history was concerned. If Abel had to guess, America’s preeminence on the world stage would last no more than another hundred years. The country had too many rights and too much wealth. Not enough sacrifice. Too much selfishness. The civilizations that had made their mark did so through brutality or great self-sacrifice by the populace, and often both. The Chinese would become the next sole superpower.”
“Consent To Kill”


The brilliant view of history contained in that passage is that the control of human passions led to prosperity, prosperity led to license and corruption, and that led to the internecine warfare that destroys a society.





3. Consider the journey from the jungle and paganism and to this

This is what we had within our grasp
: Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.



4. What made it possible?

"This is the great contribution of our Judeo-Christian foundation to Western civilization. The principles of justice are laid down in the Torah and the Gospels, and implemented through human actions memorialized in judicial codes.
The written laws and rules are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience."
David Mamet




And, under Democrats/Liberals/Progressives, the book that sets forth the rules, the manual itself, is banned in the government school system.

The promise of America was made great by the founders that prevented a free society from the tyranny of religion.

And by making that it's very first declaration by amendment.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The same founders that also declared the importance of an educated society by mandating the creation of the public school system, that all may able to participate.

The only rules all Americans are required to follow are the ones laid out in the Constitution of the United States, which does not mention anywhere within it, the bible, the gospels, jeus, christianity, or anyother religion or religious text, but twice declares that no religious test can be administered to hold public office or trust.

You're not a very good American are you?

Apparently you're not even very good at following your own rules.

Exodus 22

21 Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

22 Ye shall not afflict any widow, or fatherless child.

23 If thou afflict them in any wise, and they cry at all unto me, I will surely hear their cry;

24 And my wrath shall wax hot, and I will kill you with the sword; and your wives shall be widows, and your children fatherless.

25 If thou lend money to any of my people that is poor by thee, thou shalt not be to him as an usurer, neither shalt thou lay upon him usury.

26 If thou at all take thy neighbour's raiment to pledge, thou shalt deliver it unto him by that the sun goeth down:

27 For that is his covering only, it is his raiment for his skin: wherein shall he sleep? and it shall come to pass, when he crieth unto me, that I will hear; for I am gracious.

28 Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.
 
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Witness the Leftist apoplexy when confronted by the concept of "Natural Law."

But,...but,...but...." " What if thus and so, what if this here thing.

The Left firmly believes that god decides what is moral, but the problem is that they all believe they ARE "god" and able to make those determinations ad hoc, based on situational matters.

I often find my self sincerely wondering whether the Leftists here are stupid, uninformed, or evil. THere is no other explanation.
 
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1.How about this as a new understanding of what motivates a conservative: a recognition of what Western Civilization has accomplished and a desire to see that provision and promise continue.

It could be that simple: conservatives desire the perpetuation of America and the journey Western Civilization has taken to lead us to this: The American dream has always included material aspiration, especially for those who start out with little or nothing. But as James Truslow Adams —who popularized the term in his 1931 history, "The Epic of America"—wrote, it was "not a dream of motor cars and high wages merely, but a dream of social order in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable, and be recognized by others for what they are, regardless of the fortuitous circumstances of birth or position."

And we are most of the way there….but have to recon with those who hate America, American heritage and values, and even the American flag:

NYT, MSNBC contributor shocks critics by saying it was ...
NYT, MSNBC contributor shocks critics by saying it was ‘disturbing’ to see ‘American flags’ flying during Long Island trip
MSNBC contributor Mara Gay has said it was "disturbing" for her to see American flags flown during a recent trip to Long Island, New York, likening the images to hate symbols.




2.What brought that idea to mind was this passage in a Vince Flynn novel:

“Great civilizations rose and fell as surely as the tides. The Egyptians, the Incas, the Mayans, the Greeks, the Persians, the Romans, the Mongol empire, the Ottoman empire all came and went. The Austro-Hungarian empire, the French, the British, the Russians, and the Nazis would someday merit only a footnote. Who knew what waited for the Americans? The other superpower, the Soviet Union, had lasted less than a hundred years with their grand experiment of communism. A blink as far as history was concerned. If Abel had to guess, America’s preeminence on the world stage would last no more than another hundred years. The country had too many rights and too much wealth. Not enough sacrifice. Too much selfishness. The civilizations that had made their mark did so through brutality or great self-sacrifice by the populace, and often both. The Chinese would become the next sole superpower.”
“Consent To Kill”


The brilliant view of history contained in that passage is that the control of human passions led to prosperity, prosperity led to license and corruption, and that led to the internecine warfare that destroys a society.





3. Consider the journey from the jungle and paganism and to this

This is what we had within our grasp
: Compared to an earlier time, mothers and their children can expect to survive childbirth, and their children live another eight decades. Almost every American lives in a climate-controlled home with food and a TV. They have a car, refrig, microwave, and a cell phone. We have computers with internet, buy products from all over the globe, and cheaply, at that. None will be enslaved, few murdered, and free to have unpopular views or lifestyles. You can worship as you wish, or not at all. There is no institutional racism, and no governmental requirement to have or not have children. There is no aristocracy, no perennial wealth class, and most will die richer than when they were born. Western Civilization, here, and promised to the whole world.



4. What made it possible?

"This is the great contribution of our Judeo-Christian foundation to Western civilization. The principles of justice are laid down in the Torah and the Gospels, and implemented through human actions memorialized in judicial codes.
The written laws and rules are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience."
David Mamet




And, under Democrats/Liberals/Progressives, the book that sets forth the rules, the manual itself, is banned in the government school system.

The promise of America was made great by the founders that prevented a free society from the tyranny of religion.

And by making that it's very first declaration by amendment.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The same founders that also declared the importance of an educated society by mandating the creation of the public school system, that all may able to participate.

The only rules all Americans are required to follow are the ones laid out in the Constitution of the United States, which does not mention anywhere within it, the bible, the gospels, jeus, christianity, or anyother religion or religious text, but twice declares that no religious test can be administered to hold public office or trust.

You're not a very good American are you?


"...the founders that prevented a free society from the tyranny of religion."

You couldn't be more wrong if your intention was to be more wrong.


The amendment simply states that there will never be a government instituted religion.....you know, like the one you belong to: Militant Secularism.



The Constitution provides for an observance of the Sabbath in its Presentment Clause, mandating that the President has ten days, excluding Sundays, to veto a bill lest it become binding.

And the instrument was framed with a view to the Declaration, which unequivocally bestows gratitude on the God of the Bible for America's independence.



1. The most quoted source was the Bible. Established in the original writings of our Founding Fathers we find that they discovered in Isaiah 33:22 the three branches of government: Isaiah 33:22 “For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.” Here we see the judicial, the legislative and the executive branches. In Ezra 7:24 we see where they established the tax exempt status of the church: Ezra 7:24 “Also we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them.”

When we look at our Constitution we see in Article 4 Section 4 that we are guaranteed a Republican form of government, that was found in Exodus 18“Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:” This indicates that we are to choose, or elect God fearing men and women. Looking at Article 3 Section 3 we see almost word for word Deuteronomy 17:6: ‘No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses. . .’ Deuteronomy 17:6 “At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses. . .”. The next paragraph in Article 3 Section 3 refers to who should pay the price for treason. In England, they could punish the sons for the trespasses of the father, if the father died.

Roger Anghis -- Bring America Back To Her Religious Roots, Part 7



BTW....there is a clear reference to Jesus Christ in the Constitution.
 
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Witness the Leftist apoplexy when confronted by the concept of "Natural Law."

But,...but,...but...." " What if thus and so, what if this here thing.

The Left firmly believes that god decides what is moral, but the problem is that they all believe they ARE "god" and able to make those determinations ad hoc, based on situational matters.

I often find my self sincerely wondering whether the Leftists here are stupid, uninformed, or evil. THere is no other explanation.


This may help answer the question......three books I recommend:

And I recommend these.....


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10. The question becomes, how did the Left/Democrats/Liberals ‘sell’ the very antithesis of biblical morality, which was the cornerstone of this civilization, to normal Americans?

How did they make America, based on a culture of life......into supporting one based on death????




The answer was the creation of a new religion, Militant Secularism, which promised the sort of worship that the French Revolution promised…..worship not of God, but of the state, and of man himself.



Saturday date, a patron saint of Militant Secularism, Saul Alinsky, died:

“Saul Alinsky, in full Saul David Alinsky, (born January 30, 1909, Chicago, Illinois, U.S.—died June 12, 1972, Carmel, California), American social organizer who stimulated the creation of numerous activist citizen and community groups.” Britannica.com

Alinsky capitalized on a human weakness: no matter how moral one tries to be, it is very difficult to be perfect: "Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules." You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”

Based on Alinsky’s formulation, anything less than moral perfection is hypocrisy.




Not only is the Left’s religion more attractive than the Judeo-Christian one, which require personal discipline….Militant Secularism allows every whim from stealing to murder to be seen as nothing more than self-actualization. Their religion proclaims there is no God, no objective truth, and no consequences of any act.

The Democrats actually beatify felons like Floyd George.

And simpletons bought it like it was on sale.
 
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The 'cult' of the Democrat religion, graphically represented.



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"Biden’s larger-than-life, bare-chested figure is shown surrounded by ‘holy spirits’ of Twitter and ‘saints’. The latter include kneeling Democrat leaders in the US Congress, Dr. Anthony Fauci, fawning journalists, and manager-class devotees eagerly consuming the ‘holy scripture’ from what is probably the latest Barack Obama memoir.

The former president himself is shown as a six-winged seraphim bracketed by the likewise angelic Hillary and Bill Clinton, with the trio gazing benignly from the heavens.

A crowd of mask-wearing suburban laymen on Earth celebrates Biden’s ascension. A pair of Reaper drones complete the picture, providing a clear hint for the doubtful that the image should be taken with a grain of salt.

So the left went from keep religion out of government at all costs to the government is our religion.” Cult: Government Is Now The New Religion?
 
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With metronomic regularity, we find the Left/Democrats not merely lying, falsifying, but actually making claims that are 180° from the truth.

Case in point, an earlier liar, Democrat, using the term ‘tyranny’ about the religion of or Founders.

The only tyranny’ being imposed is that of the ersatz ‘religion’ of the Left, which imposes it own version of ‘morality’ on everyone.

“…Obamacare law gave the federal government power to define “health.” And for liberalism, “health” includes being able to have sex without consequences, …effective August 1, 2012, employers must provide contraception, abortifacients, and sterilization as part of their insurance packages, or face the wrath of the federal government



Liberals embrace sexual liberation—that is, liberation from shame and

guilt, and ultimately from Christian moral doctrines about sexuality. At first, this liberation was sold as “choice.” You’ve seen the T-shirt: “Against abortion? Don’t have one.” The selling point was that women were being freed from the tyranny of Christians imposing their morality on everyone else through laws against abortion. Everyone would be free to choose according to her own personal morality. But the pretense of neutrality was just that—a pretense. As soon as a “pro-choice” administration acquired the power to do so, it imposed its own morality on everyone, requiring even Christian institutions to pay for abortion-inducing pills.



The liberal state is requiring that Christians obey liberal moral doctrines, even though that means they must violate their own moral doctrines. Nothing could more clearly illustrate the clash between one set of beliefs and another.



…undertaking the propagation of that liberal morality with messianic zeal.”

“Worshipping The State,” Benjamin Wiker
 

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So cannot both sides coexist? One immoral and one moral?

We have forever in this nation now hyperpartisan bad people from both sides say we can't.
The idiots here rejected medical pot. There is no reason for that. No moral nor religious ground to defend anti medical pot. Punish those who are sick.
 
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So cannot both sides coexist? One immoral and one moral?

We have forever in this nation now hyperpartisan bad people from both sides say we can't.
The idiots here rejected medical pot. There is no reason for that. No moral nor religious ground to defend anti medical pot. Punish those who are sick.


The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism,

socialism,

infanticide,

opposition to free speech,

substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry,

support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists,

accepting payment from Communist China for future considerations,

and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.





Now......which is your favorite?
 

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