The consequences of Trump's actions

[frigidweirdo]

Now let us pretend everything about this situation were the same, but the POTUS was OBAMA.

Do lefties say all the exact same stuff?

Ah yes, let's talk about Obama, who didn't invade Iran, even though Trump said he would.... and then the reasons why Trump said he would seem to have actually come true for Trump.

He said Obama would "attack Iran in order to get re-elected."

Trump isn't trying to get re-elected, but he's trying to gain better polling and distract from the Epstein files.

"Now that Obama's poll numbers are in tailspin - watch for him to launch a strike in Libya or Iran. He is desperate,"

"Later that same month, Trump warned the GOP not to "let Obama play the Iran card in order to start a war in oder too get elected--be careful Republicans!""

"On at least three other occasions, Trump predicted that Obama would attack Iran, claiming he would do so to "save face," or "because of his inability to negotiate properly" or to "show how tough he is.""

 

[frigidweirdo]

And great. But the US is NOT doing this because of these women.

The US is doing it because of oil, because of the Epstein files, because of Trump. Nothing to do with the people.

If it were about the people, then those countries which are WORSE than Iran would also be targeted, they're not, the US people have never heard of them, nor has Trump.

 

[Hafar1014]

Trump kidnapped Maduro.

Instead of putting the woman who won the Nobel Peace Prize (when Trump wanted it), he allowed the regime to carry on with the deputy.

Now Trump bombs Iran.

He expects the Iranians to fight instead of Americans.

But why would you? You KNOW that Trump's just going to put in place someone from the same system.

Trump literally sabotaged his Iranian WAR before it even started.

Trump says U.S. is 'in charge' of Venezuela and warns interim leader to cooperate

The president's comments aboard Air Force One contrasted with the diplomatic tone of Venezuela's Delcy Rodríguez, who extended an invitation to work with the U.S.

www.nbcnews.com

"Trump says U.S. is 'in charge' of Venezuela and warns interim leader to cooperate"

"The president's comments aboard Air Force One contrasted with the diplomatic tone of Venezuela's Delcy Rodríguez, who extended an invitation to work with the U.S."

Trump urges Iranians to rise up: ‘Now is the time to seize control of your destiny’

The US president confirmed the start of ‘major combat operations’ and said that he will not tolerate a nuclear-armed Iran

english.elpais.com

"Trump urges Iranians to rise up: ‘Now is the time to seize control of your destiny’"

Trump is changing the balance of world power away from Communists socialists Islamic terror and drug cartels back to American freedom and capitalism. Democrats surrendered in the face of these evils and even enabled them

 

[ColonelAngus]

Ah yes, let's talk about Obama, who didn't invade Iran, even though Trump said he would.... and then the reasons why Trump said he would seem to have actually come true for Trump.

He said Obama would "attack Iran in order to get re-elected."

Trump isn't trying to get re-elected, but he's trying to gain better polling and distract from the Epstein files.

"Now that Obama's poll numbers are in tailspin - watch for him to launch a strike in Libya or Iran. He is desperate,"

"Later that same month, Trump warned the GOP not to "let Obama play the Iran card in order to start a war in oder too get elected--be careful Republicans!""

"On at least three other occasions, Trump predicted that Obama would attack Iran, claiming he would do so to "save face," or "because of his inability to negotiate properly" or to "show how tough he is.""

Are you answering another question?

If all the circumstances of the current situation were identical other than POTUS, would your posts be the same regarding this war?

 

[the watcher]

Iranians should be in charge of Iran,

That's dangerous thinking. Next you will want Americans to be in charge of America, a slippery slope indeed.

 

[The Duke]

And great. But the US is NOT doing this because of these women.

The US is doing it because of oil, because of the Epstein files, because of Trump. Nothing to do with the people.

If it were about the people, then those countries which are WORSE than Iran would also be targeted, they're not, the US people have never heard of them, nor has Trump.

Justfuck right the hell off with that nonsense.
Enough with the terrorist sponsoring mullahs that terrorize their own people.
This is good vs. evil, dipshit, and has been coming since 1979, so sit down, STFU,
and enjoy the ride, or don't. IDGAF.

 

[1srelluc]

Ah yes, let's talk about Obama, who didn't invade Iran, even though Trump said he would.... and then the reasons why Trump said he would seem to have actually come true for Trump.

He said Obama would "attack Iran in order to get re-elected."

Trump isn't trying to get re-elected, but he's trying to gain better polling and distract from the Epstein files.

"Now that Obama's poll numbers are in tailspin - watch for him to launch a strike in Libya or Iran. He is desperate,"

"Later that same month, Trump warned the GOP not to "let Obama play the Iran card in order to start a war in oder too get elected--be careful Republicans!""

"On at least three other occasions, Trump predicted that Obama would attack Iran, claiming he would do so to "save face," or "because of his inability to negotiate properly" or to "show how tough he is.""

Obama was a lazy tool....I guess he figured sending pallets of money (to the tune of 1.3 billion) there was easier.

 

[Hafar1014]

Because it worked for him in business, where you can bully people and where money is king. In diplomacy, it's not all about money. Spain just said "we don't care about the money, it'll cost us more to deal with the bombs that go off".

Who cares what Spain does they can support the destruction of the worst sponsor of terror or get slapped in the face

 

[ColonelAngus]

That's dangerous thinking. Next you will want Americans to be in charge of America, a slippery slope indeed.

We need people in the US GOVERNMENT WHO PUT SOMALIA FIRST!

 

[frigidweirdo]

Are you answering another question?

If all the circumstances of the current situation were identical other than POTUS, would your posts be the same regarding this war?

Well, if Obama were hiding the Epstein files because he seemed worried that he were implicated in them, then yes. If he were invading for this.

Obama would probably have quit. I'm sure some Democrats would be defending him, but I'm sure a lot of left wingers would be attacking Obama. People, however, liked Obama simply because he wasn't that sort of person.

So.... it's an impossible question to answer, because Obama wasn't as dangerous as Trump is, wasn't as unstable, wasn't as much of a liar, etc etc

Obama was a relatively good President. Trump is forking awful.

Obama attacked Libya, and it happened before I started on this forum so I can't prove anything. But I didn't approve of that action, it was pretty awful, he, Cameron and the French president at the time bombed and then left the country in civil war.

And it was the same reasons why Iran, Venezuela and Iraq were targeted, because they're OPEC and hated the US. And yes, I've been pretty vocal about that in the past..

Post in thread 'US and Israel Launch Preemptive Attacks on Iran'

Feb 28, 2026

Headline: “TRUMP CURES CANCER!! But it’s Just A Diversion from Epstein.”

How is Trump going to cure cancer, exactly?

Let's put it this way.

Trump said "I'm different, I'm going to drain the swamp. I'm different, no wars from me"

And yet in 2001 there were four OPEC countries that hated the US badly. Iraq, taken down by Bush, Libya, taken down by Obama (kind of, mostly Cameron and whoever the French President was). Two left, Venezuela and Iran. Trump has got involved in both of those.

How is he different? He's not. He's doing the same things as every other president this...

• frigidweirdo

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"And yet in 2001 there were four OPEC countries that hated the US badly. Iraq, taken down by Bush, Libya, taken down by Obama (kind of, mostly Cameron and whoever the French President was). "

Post in thread 'Trump says he'll be running Venezuela. How?'

Jan 3, 2026

We're not able to run America properly but we're going to run Venezuela?!???!??

Pretty much like how Obama ran Libya maybe?

• frigidweirdo

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We're not able to run America properly but we're going to run Venezuela?!???!??

Pretty much like how Obama ran Libya maybe?"

Post in thread 'Nicholas Maduro has been captured: Trump'

Jan 3, 2026

This becomes another case of “You break it, you bought it” for the US

Nation building rarely works and now the US is on the hook for propping up Venezuela

Probably do what Obama did, just walk away once they got the leader. Obama did that in Libya, it's still not fixed, 14 years later.

• frigidweirdo

"Probably do what Obama did, just walk away once they got the leader. Obama did that in Libya, it's still not fixed, 14 years later."

Post in thread 'Nicholas Maduro has been captured: Trump'

Jan 3, 2026

Trump is now on Truth Social saying Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro has been captured and flown out of the country, along with his wife. This is a major development and frees up Venezuela to have a free and fair democratic election.

Imagine that this ****** wanted the Nobel Peace Prize. Then again Obama got it and bombed Libya.

• frigidweirdo

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"Imagine that this ****** wanted the Nobel Peace Prize. Then again Obama got it and bombed Libya."

 

[frigidweirdo]

Who cares what Spain does they can support the destruction of the worst sponsor of terror or get slapped in the face

Do you know what happened to Spain after the invasion of Iraq? Do you?

They supported the US and the US's ridiculous war in Iraq, which had fork all to do with 9/11.

And for their sins, they got bombs going off in Madrid that killed loads of people.

Does Trump give a fork? Nope. But the Spanish people still remember.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Obama was a lazy tool....I guess he figured sending pallets of money (to the tune of 1.3 billion) there was easier.

Or maybe he was a diplomat, instead of a pedo protector.

 

[1srelluc]

OP is really spinning his wheels and not gaining any traction this morning.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Trump is changing the balance of world power away from Communists socialists Islamic terror and drug cartels back to American freedom and capitalism. Democrats surrendered in the face of these evils and even enabled them

American "freedom" huh? Is that the freedom of the US to screw over smaller countries? Tell them what to do, who to elect, how much to charge for oil?

Fork me, the US couldn't give a flying fork about democracy, doesn't even have it at home.

 

[Hafar1014]

Do you know what happened to Spain after the invasion of Iraq? Do you?

They supported the US and the US's ridiculous war in Iraq, which had fork all to do with 9/11.

And for their sins, they got bombs going off in Madrid that killed loads of people.

Does Trump give a fork? Nope. But the Spanish people still remember.

Screw Spain

 

[ColonelAngus]

Well, if Obama were hiding the Epstein files because he seemed worried that he were implicated in them, then yes. If he were invading for this.

Obama would probably have quit. I'm sure some Democrats would be defending him, but I'm sure a lot of left wingers would be attacking Obama. People, however, liked Obama simply because he wasn't that sort of person.

So.... it's an impossible question to answer, because Obama wasn't as dangerous as Trump is, wasn't as unstable, wasn't as much of a liar, etc etc

Obama was a relatively good President. Trump is forking awful.

Obama attacked Libya, and it happened before I started on this forum so I can't prove anything. But I didn't approve of that action, it was pretty awful, he, Cameron and the French president at the time bombed and then left the country in civil war.

And it was the same reasons why Iran, Venezuela and Iraq were targeted, because they're OPEC and hated the US. And yes, I've been pretty vocal about that in the past..

Post in thread 'US and Israel Launch Preemptive Attacks on Iran'

Feb 28, 2026

Headline: “TRUMP CURES CANCER!! But it’s Just A Diversion from Epstein.”

How is Trump going to cure cancer, exactly?

Let's put it this way.

Trump said "I'm different, I'm going to drain the swamp. I'm different, no wars from me"

And yet in 2001 there were four OPEC countries that hated the US badly. Iraq, taken down by Bush, Libya, taken down by Obama (kind of, mostly Cameron and whoever the French President was). Two left, Venezuela and Iran. Trump has got involved in both of those.

How is he different? He's not. He's doing the same things as every other president this...

• frigidweirdo

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"And yet in 2001 there were four OPEC countries that hated the US badly. Iraq, taken down by Bush, Libya, taken down by Obama (kind of, mostly Cameron and whoever the French President was). "

Post in thread 'Trump says he'll be running Venezuela. How?'

Jan 3, 2026

We're not able to run America properly but we're going to run Venezuela?!???!??

Pretty much like how Obama ran Libya maybe?

• frigidweirdo

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Pretty much like how Obama ran Libya maybe?"

Post in thread 'Nicholas Maduro has been captured: Trump'

Jan 3, 2026

This becomes another case of “You break it, you bought it” for the US

Nation building rarely works and now the US is on the hook for propping up Venezuela

Probably do what Obama did, just walk away once they got the leader. Obama did that in Libya, it's still not fixed, 14 years later.

• frigidweirdo

"Probably do what Obama did, just walk away once they got the leader. Obama did that in Libya, it's still not fixed, 14 years later."

Post in thread 'Nicholas Maduro has been captured: Trump'

Jan 3, 2026

Trump is now on Truth Social saying Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro has been captured and flown out of the country, along with his wife. This is a major development and frees up Venezuela to have a free and fair democratic election.

Imagine that this ****** wanted the Nobel Peace Prize. Then again Obama got it and bombed Libya.

• frigidweirdo

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"Imagine that this ****** wanted the Nobel Peace Prize. Then again Obama got it and bombed Libya."

Understood. Your position on this war would be different if Obama was President.

That is all I wanted to demonstrate.

You confirmed that is true. I appreciate the candor in your reply.

 

[Hafar1014]

American "freedom" huh? Is that the freedom of the US to screw over smaller countries? Tell them what to do, who to elect, how much to charge for oil?

Fork me, the US couldn't give a flying fork about democracy, doesn't even have it at home.

Youre just a sore loser. Democrats are the enemy of democracy. They open the birder to change the population in their favor, use super delgates to manipulate their primary, appointed Harris to run where was the vote on that mistake. and oppose voter ID so they can fake voters. Democrats are anti democracy

 

[Correll]

Trump kidnapped Maduro.

Instead of putting the woman who won the Nobel Peace Prize (when Trump wanted it), he allowed the regime to carry on with the deputy.

Now Trump bombs Iran.

He expects the Iranians to fight instead of Americans.

But why would you? You KNOW that Trump's just going to put in place someone from the same system.

Trump literally sabotaged his Iranian WAR before it even started.

Trump says U.S. is 'in charge' of Venezuela and warns interim leader to cooperate

The president's comments aboard Air Force One contrasted with the diplomatic tone of Venezuela's Delcy Rodríguez, who extended an invitation to work with the U.S.

www.nbcnews.com

"Trump says U.S. is 'in charge' of Venezuela and warns interim leader to cooperate"

"The president's comments aboard Air Force One contrasted with the diplomatic tone of Venezuela's Delcy Rodríguez, who extended an invitation to work with the U.S."

Trump urges Iranians to rise up: ‘Now is the time to seize control of your destiny’

The US president confirmed the start of ‘major combat operations’ and said that he will not tolerate a nuclear-armed Iran

english.elpais.com

"Trump urges Iranians to rise up: ‘Now is the time to seize control of your destiny’"

I've been hearing that the Iranian government has killed 30k of it's own people over the last few weeks.

Sounds like stopping that would be reason enough to rise up and change the goverment.

I know that that doesn't matter to YOU, all you care about is spamming negs against Trump and America.

 

[SweetTea]

And great. But the US is NOT doing this because of these women.

The US is doing it because of oil, because of the Epstein files, because of Trump. Nothing to do with the people.

If it were about the people, then those countries which are WORSE than Iran would also be targeted, they're not, the US people have never heard of them, nor has Trump.

How can you expect anyone to take you people seriously when you suggest that this was done to distract from the Epstein files? That is a farcical take on the situation. I know you don’t like it when TDS is mentioned, but this is the kind of stuff that further validates TDS as a legitimate syndrome.

 

[Hafar1014]

How can you expect anyone to take you people seriously when you suggest that this was done to distract from the Epstein files? That is a farcical take on the situation. I know you don’t like it when TDS is mentioned, but this is the kind of stuff that further validates TDS as a legitimate syndrome.

The left which is being exposed as useless resorts tot he same BS Epstein its war for oil no one cares they have nothing of any substance to say. No ideas no solutions only mindless opposition