The Common Denominator: Islam

I'm a fairly religious person. If someone from my church was planing to bomb an abortion clinic, I'd tell the police. If I stay silent, I become part of the criminal act.

You mean you wouldn't want to deport all Christians, like one poster earlier said of Muslims, and the OP quietly endorsed?



"... the OP quietly endorsed?"

Provide where I endorsed same or accept your appellation....you are a lying sack of sewage.

A tacit endorsement. Do you need a definition of 'tacit'? Or would you rather clarify your position by stating for the record that the other poster is full of shit?




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So I never said any such thing.

.

So those who attack non-violent law abiding Muslims for NOT SPEAKING OUT ENOUGH AGAINST THE EXTREMISTS,

with the implication that is a 'tacit endorsement',

those people are full of shit, eh? Good, argue with them because this board is full of them.
 
The president is trying not to condemn innocent Muslims for the actions of the guilty Muslims. What's wrong with that?




What's wrong is that, like you, he has difficulty speaking the truth.


"Obama says the Islamic State ‘is not Islamic.’ Americans disagree.
...Obama has emphasized one point while talking about Islamist extremists: They are not practicing Islam,....

While announcing that he's expanding the campaign against the Islamic State extremist group into Syria, Obama said flatly that this group, which is trying to install a caliphate in the Middle East, "is not Islamic." He didn't say they are perverting their religion; he said they're not even part of that religion.

A Pew Research Center poll released just hours before Obama's speech showed that 50 percent of Americans see Islam as a religion that "is more likely than others to encourage violence among its believers." The figure's up sharply from earlier this year and is the highest since Pew started asking that question in 2002."
Obama says the Islamic State 8216 is not Islamic. 8217 Americans disagree. - The Washington Post

Did they poll the 99% of Muslims who do not engage in violence because of their religion?




40% of Indonesians approve of violence in defense of Islam.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailweekly.asp?fileid=20060728.@03

Pew Global: 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
13% of Indonesian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
12% of Jordanian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
7% of Muslim Israelis say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
Support for Suicide Bombings and Bin Laden Still High Among Some Muslims CNS News(Pew Global Attitudes Project September, 2009)

Do you need a definition of the word engage now?

Not to mention a definition of the word 'defense'?

Didn't George W Bush killed thousands of civilians in Iraq in our 'defense'?
 
I'm a fairly religious person. If someone from my church was planing to bomb an abortion clinic, I'd tell the police. If I stay silent, I become part of the criminal act.

You mean you wouldn't want to deport all Christians, like one poster earlier said of Muslims, and the OP quietly endorsed?



"... the OP quietly endorsed?"

Provide where I endorsed same or accept your appellation....you are a lying sack of sewage.

A tacit endorsement. Do you need a definition of 'tacit'? Or would you rather clarify your position by stating for the record that the other poster is full of shit?




tac·it(t
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s
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adj.
1. Not spoken:
tacit - definition of tacit by The Free Dictionary


So I never said any such thing.

And you are a lying sack of sewage.

So you concede that it is wrong to attack an entire religion based on the actions of a few.

Odd then that such was the point of this thread, authored by you.



"concede to" and "sack of stinking sewage" will hardly be found in the same post.
 
I'm a fairly religious person. If someone from my church was planing to bomb an abortion clinic, I'd tell the police. If I stay silent, I become part of the criminal act.

You mean you wouldn't want to deport all Christians, like one poster earlier said of Muslims, and the OP quietly endorsed?



"... the OP quietly endorsed?"

Provide where I endorsed same or accept your appellation....you are a lying sack of sewage.

A tacit endorsement. Do you need a definition of 'tacit'? Or would you rather clarify your position by stating for the record that the other poster is full of shit?




tac·it(t
abreve.gif
s
prime.gif
ibreve.gif
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adj.
1. Not spoken:
tacit - definition of tacit by The Free Dictionary


So I never said any such thing.

And you are a lying sack of sewage.

So you concede that it is wrong to attack an entire religion based on the actions of a few.

Odd then that such was the point of this thread, authored by you.



"concede to" and "sack of stinking sewage" will hardly be found in the same post.

Your obsessive fascination with scat is probably best taken to a forum where that is a specialty.

What is your position then? Because if nothing else I've managed to demonstrate that no one can know your position.

Is it right or wrong to attack an entire religion based on the actions of a few?

Is it right or wrong to attack moderate Muslims for not speaking out enough against the extremists?
 
I'm a fairly religious person. If someone from my church was planing to bomb an abortion clinic, I'd tell the police. If I stay silent, I become part of the criminal act.

You mean you wouldn't want to deport all Christians, like one poster earlier said of Muslims, and the OP quietly endorsed?



"... the OP quietly endorsed?"

Provide where I endorsed same or accept your appellation....you are a lying sack of sewage.

A tacit endorsement. Do you need a definition of 'tacit'? Or would you rather clarify your position by stating for the record that the other poster is full of shit?




tac·it(t
abreve.gif
s
prime.gif
ibreve.gif
t)
adj.
1. Not spoken:
tacit - definition of tacit by The Free Dictionary


So I never said any such thing.

And you are a lying sack of sewage.

So you concede that it is wrong to attack an entire religion based on the actions of a few.

Odd then that such was the point of this thread, authored by you.



"concede to" and "sack of stinking sewage" will hardly be found in the same post.

Your obsessive fascination with scat is probably best taken to a forum where that is a specialty.

What is your position then? Because if nothing else I've managed to demonstrate that no one can know your position.

Is it right or wrong to attack an entire religion based on the actions of a few?

Is it right or wrong to attack moderate Muslims for not speaking out enough against the extremists?



Was I too subtle?

You are "scat."
 
This particular religion has been very violent towards the world the last thirty years. I don't think you can ignore that. Also, given the poll posted here, even the nonparticipating ones support violence to a large degree. Again, attacking seems to indicate violence toward all Muslims, I am asking them to police themselves.
 
I wonder how comfortable our spec ops guy is....working out in the desert with a squad of Sunni fighters ...calling in air strikes on ISIS....Sunni fighters.
 
This particular religion has been very violent towards the world the last thirty years. I don't think you can ignore that. Also, given the poll posted here, even the nonparticipating ones support violence to a large degree. Again, attacking seems to indicate violence toward all Muslims, I am asking them to police themselves.

Which Poll is that? I saw a poll here stating that an increased number of Americans believe that - but not that Muslims themselves support violence to a large degree.

Pew Research Poll Muslim Publics Share Concerns about Extremist Groups Pew Research Center s Global Attitudes Project

Half or more of Muslims in most countries surveyed say that suicide bombing and other acts of violence that target civilians can never be justified in the name of Islam.

Support for violence varies significantly depending on the country/culture (from Pakistan - 89% and Indonesia 81% feel it's never justified down to Senegal where it's 50%).

I think it's erroneous of people to lump all Muslims around the world together like that. They aren't monolithic - there isn't one voice or authority that speaks for all of them.

According to this How US Muslims are different Pew poll sheds light on global contrasts - CSMonitor.com

On the question of whether attacks, such as suicide bombings, on civilians are ever justified in defense of Islam, Muslims in America are strongly on the less-violent end of the global spectrum. In the US, 81 percent of Muslims say such violence is never justified, a slightly higher share than the survey’s global median of 72 percent.
Most Muslim Americans See No Justification for Violence

Muslims Americans more likely than other faith groups to reject attacks on civilians
 
As hard as it is to believe, the President of the United States.....the very same one who owned last year's "Lie of the Year," ( 'If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor....')...yeah, that one....
...unveiled his latest attempt at reprising his award winning performance.

This one:
Obama says the Islamic State 'is not Islamic.'

And, wonder of wonders, his sycophants are turning themselves inside out trying to prove the truth of the obvious falsehood.

OK....read the following horror tale from New Jersey, and let's see the "not Islamic" fest continue.





1. "NEW YORK CITY — A New York radio personality is calling for increased attention to the June murder of a 19-year-old Livingston man, calling it evidence that “domestic terrorism is already here.”

2. ....host of WPLJ’s “The Todd Show”, discussed the death of Brendan Tevlin for more than eight minutes this morning, asking why the case has not received more attention despite the alleged murderer’s admissions that he killed Tevlin as an act of vengeance for U.S. military actions in the Middle East.


3. ....an act of jihad, perpetrated by a fellow American who sympathized more with those who want to annihilate us than with his own country and its people,”...

4. Essex County authorities have charged 29-year-old Ali Muhammad Brown with killing Tevlin in a West Orange intersection on June 25. Since being taken into custody on July 18, he has confessed to the murder, along with three others in Washington state, saying they were carried out as retribution for innocent lives lost in Iraq, Syria and other parts of the Islamic world.

5. Pettengil criticized President Barack Obama and U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder for not referencing the case in recent addresses and downplaying the level of threat radical Islamists currently living in America ....focusing instead on other protests such as those in Ferguson, Mo.,...“If there was ever a reason to riot in the streets in the name of humanity it would for this case."
Brendan Tevlin s murder evidence that domestic terrorism is already here says radio host AUDIO NJ.com




6. "...the police initially called it as a robbery gone wrong.That is what it may have fist appeared to be; however, the murder of 19 year old Brendan Tevlin was far from a robbery, it was an act of terrorism and as the defendant, Ali Muhammad Brown, called it … a “Just Kill”. Ali Muhammad Brown, a devout Muslin told prosecutors that, “All these lives are taken every single day by America, by this government. So a life for a life.” Ali Muhammad Brown..."

7. Once again we are witness to political correctness where the MSM refuses to cover what they consider uncomfortable. It is okay to riot in the streets when a black teen is shot by a white police officer, but it is not okay to even cover the story when a white teen is murdered as a result of domestic terrorism by one who follows Islam?

8.Officers said Brown fired 10 shots into Tevlin’s Jeep Liberty when it was stopped at intersection early in the morning in West Orange, N.J. Then he got into the 19-year-old’s car and drove it to a nearby apartment complex to abandon it "
The Untold Story by the MSM 8230 Ali Muhammad Brown Called Murdered 19 Year Old Brendan Tevlin as a 8220 Just Kill 8221 and said Was an act of 8220 Vengeance 8221 Against U.S. Military Killings in the Middle East Update Audio PLJ 8217 s Todd Pettengill Scared Monkeys




9. "....he murdered a New Jersey teenager as revenge for Muslims killed overseas."
Suspect says he murdered New Jersey teen as revenge for U.S. military killings in Middle East police - NY Daily News



10 ."....the murder of 19-year-old college student Brendan Tevlin....On June 25, Tevlin was driving home to Livingston when he was shot and killed in West Orange....Tevlin had no prior contact with Brown or the other two men charged with his murder."
Ali Muhammad Brown suspect in Brendan Tevlin murder accused in 2 Seattle murders - News 12 New Jersey




It seems that, unlike Trayvon Martin, if Barack Obama had a son, he would not have looked liked Brendan Tevlin.


The COMMON DENOMINATOR is ISRAHELL.

The Judeo-American Axis of evil somehow concluded that the Muslims were simply going to continue to accept the punishment they have been receiving tor close to 85 years. But They have become a powerful stateless entity.

The federal government and its criminal ally , the Jewish State continue to place us in harms way.

.
 
I was very specific about someone from my church participating in something illegal. It was disingenuous to expand it NYC.

Muslims tolerance for violence is quite obvious, given their history in the last 30 years.


correction 3000 years

Islam hasn't existed for 3000 years.

But here's the real deal. We've killed a lot more of them than they've killed of us.

which is what you should do in a war, absolutely.
 
This particular religion has been very violent towards the world the last thirty years. I don't think you can ignore that. Also, given the poll posted here, even the nonparticipating ones support violence to a large degree. Again, attacking seems to indicate violence toward all Muslims, I am asking them to police themselves.

Which Poll is that? I saw a poll here stating that an increased number of Americans believe that - but not that Muslims themselves support violence to a large degree.

Pew Research Poll Muslim Publics Share Concerns about Extremist Groups Pew Research Center s Global Attitudes Project

Half or more of Muslims in most countries surveyed say that suicide bombing and other acts of violence that target civilians can never be justified in the name of Islam.

Support for violence varies significantly depending on the country/culture (from Pakistan - 89% and Indonesia 81% feel it's never justified down to Senegal where it's 50%).

I think it's erroneous of people to lump all Muslims around the world together like that. They aren't monolithic - there isn't one voice or authority that speaks for all of them.

According to this How US Muslims are different Pew poll sheds light on global contrasts - CSMonitor.com

On the question of whether attacks, such as suicide bombings, on civilians are ever justified in defense of Islam, Muslims in America are strongly on the less-violent end of the global spectrum. In the US, 81 percent of Muslims say such violence is never justified, a slightly higher share than the survey’s global median of 72 percent.
Most Muslim Americans See No Justification for Violence

Muslims Americans more likely than other faith groups to reject attacks on civilians



Any comment about the multi-millions who do?

Or, do you recommend the Liberal approach.....wishing will make it go away.
 
This particular religion has been very violent towards the world the last thirty years. I don't think you can ignore that. Also, given the poll posted here, even the nonparticipating ones support violence to a large degree. Again, attacking seems to indicate violence toward all Muslims, I am asking them to police themselves.
So....what do you suggest be done against this "particular religion"?
 
Sure, we can blame all of Islam, if you'd like. Then once we've made all of Islam our enemy, that will make the prospects for peace so much easier...
 

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