The Common Denominator: Islam

[eagle1462010]

Birds Chirping..............

 

[NYcarbineer]

The president is trying not to condemn innocent Muslims for the actions of the guilty Muslims. What's wrong with that?

What's wrong is that, like you, he has difficulty speaking the truth.


"Obama says the Islamic State ‘is not Islamic.’ Americans disagree.
...Obama has emphasized one point while talking about Islamist extremists: They are not practicing Islam,....

While announcing that he's expanding the campaign against the Islamic State extremist group into Syria, Obama said flatly that this group, which is trying to install a caliphate in the Middle East, "is not Islamic." He didn't say they are perverting their religion; he said they're not even part of that religion.

A Pew Research Center poll released just hours before Obama's speech showed that 50 percent of Americans see Islam as a religion that "is more likely than others to encourage violence among its believers." The figure's up sharply from earlier this year and is the highest since Pew started asking that question in 2002."
Obama says the Islamic State 8216 is not Islamic. 8217 Americans disagree. - The Washington Post

Did they poll the 99% of Muslims who do not engage in violence because of their religion?

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'm a fairly religious person. If someone from my church was planing to bomb an abortion clinic, I'd tell the police. If I stay silent, I become part of the criminal act.

You mean you wouldn't want to deport all Christians, like one poster earlier said of Muslims, and the OP quietly endorsed?

"... the OP quietly endorsed?"

Provide where I endorsed same or accept your appellation....you are a lying sack of sewage.

A tacit endorsement. Do you need a definition of 'tacit'? Or would you rather clarify your position by stating for the record that the other poster is full of shit?

 

[NYcarbineer]

GRAPHIC Islamic State ISIS behead children and women after stripping them naked - Pamela Geller Atlas Shrugs

Check out how nice Islam is to people...............Warning............Graphic.

Didn't that occur about the same time the Israelis were killing hundreds of innocent Palestinian women and children?

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[NYcarbineer]

As hard as it is to believe, the President of the United States.....the very same one who owned last year's "Lie of the Year," ( 'If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor....')...yeah, that one....
...unveiled his latest attempt at reprising his award winning performance.

This one:
Obama says the Islamic State 'is not Islamic.'

Okay, so the Islamic State is Islamic.

Therefore Christian Identity must be Christian.

Read up on Christian Identity:

Christian Identity - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Now, at the risk of appearing to believe that I would ever get a straight answer out of you, let me ask you this -

Is it fair to call the above group Christian?

 

[eagle1462010]

GRAPHIC Islamic State ISIS behead children and women after stripping them naked - Pamela Geller Atlas Shrugs

Check out how nice Islam is to people...............Warning............Graphic.

Didn't that occur about the same time the Israelis were killing hundreds of innocent Palestinian women and children?

...

That was going on in the whole region. And that is no defense for the acts of barbarism shown at that site............

They are doing this to their own kind. Fellow Muslims. Which part of that don't you get.

 

[Mac1958]

As hard as it is to believe, the President of the United States.....the very same one who owned last year's "Lie of the Year," ( 'If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor....')...yeah, that one....
...unveiled his latest attempt at reprising his award winning performance.

This one:
Obama says the Islamic State 'is not Islamic.'

Okay, so the Islamic State is Islamic.

Therefore Christian Identity must be Christian.

Read up on Christian Identity:

Christian Identity - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Now, at the risk of appearing to believe that I would ever get a straight answer out of you, let me ask you this -

Is it fair to call the above group Christian?

Yes.

See how easy it is to be clear and honest?

.

 

[NYcarbineer]

As hard as it is to believe, the President of the United States.....the very same one who owned last year's "Lie of the Year," ( 'If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor....')...yeah, that one....
...unveiled his latest attempt at reprising his award winning performance.

This one:
Obama says the Islamic State 'is not Islamic.'

Okay, so the Islamic State is Islamic.

Therefore Christian Identity must be Christian.

Read up on Christian Identity:

Christian Identity - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Now, at the risk of appearing to believe that I would ever get a straight answer out of you, let me ask you this -

Is it fair to call the above group Christian?

Yes.

See how easy it is to be clear and honest?

.

We'll see how many of your pals are willing to play the same game.

 

[Mac1958]

As hard as it is to believe, the President of the United States.....the very same one who owned last year's "Lie of the Year," ( 'If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor....')...yeah, that one....
...unveiled his latest attempt at reprising his award winning performance.

This one:
Obama says the Islamic State 'is not Islamic.'

Okay, so the Islamic State is Islamic.

Therefore Christian Identity must be Christian.

Read up on Christian Identity:

Christian Identity - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Now, at the risk of appearing to believe that I would ever get a straight answer out of you, let me ask you this -

Is it fair to call the above group Christian?

Yes.

See how easy it is to be clear and honest?

.

We'll see how many of your pals are willing to play the same game.

What game?

So you're saying the Islamic State is Islamic, then?

.

 

[PoliticalChic]

As hard as it is to believe, the President of the United States.....the very same one who owned last year's "Lie of the Year," ( 'If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor....')...yeah, that one....
...unveiled his latest attempt at reprising his award winning performance.

This one:
Obama says the Islamic State 'is not Islamic.'

And, wonder of wonders, his sycophants are turning themselves inside out trying to prove the truth of the obvious falsehood.

OK....read the following horror tale from New Jersey, and let's see the "not Islamic" fest continue.





1. "NEW YORK CITY — A New York radio personality is calling for increased attention to the June murder of a 19-year-old Livingston man, calling it evidence that “domestic terrorism is already here.”

2. ....host of WPLJ’s “The Todd Show”, discussed the death of Brendan Tevlin for more than eight minutes this morning, asking why the case has not received more attention despite the alleged murderer’s admissions that he killed Tevlin as an act of vengeance for U.S. military actions in the Middle East.

3. ....an act of jihad, perpetrated by a fellow American who sympathized more with those who want to annihilate us than with his own country and its people,”...

4. Essex County authorities have charged 29-year-old Ali Muhammad Brown with killing Tevlin in a West Orange intersection on June 25. Since being taken into custody on July 18, he has confessed to the murder, along with three others in Washington state, saying they were carried out as retribution for innocent lives lost in Iraq, Syria and other parts of the Islamic world.

5. Pettengil criticized President Barack Obama and U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder for not referencing the case in recent addresses and downplaying the level of threat radical Islamists currently living in America ....focusing instead on other protests such as those in Ferguson, Mo.,...“If there was ever a reason to riot in the streets in the name of humanity it would for this case."
Brendan Tevlin s murder evidence that domestic terrorism is already here says radio host AUDIO NJ.com




6. "...the police initially called it as a robbery gone wrong.That is what it may have fist appeared to be; however, the murder of 19 year old Brendan Tevlin was far from a robbery, it was an act of terrorism and as the defendant, Ali Muhammad Brown, called it … a “Just Kill”. Ali Muhammad Brown, a devout Muslin told prosecutors that, “All these lives are taken every single day by America, by this government. So a life for a life.” Ali Muhammad Brown..."

7. Once again we are witness to political correctness where the MSM refuses to cover what they consider uncomfortable. It is okay to riot in the streets when a black teen is shot by a white police officer, but it is not okay to even cover the story when a white teen is murdered as a result of domestic terrorism by one who follows Islam?

8.Officers said Brown fired 10 shots into Tevlin’s Jeep Liberty when it was stopped at intersection early in the morning in West Orange, N.J. Then he got into the 19-year-old’s car and drove it to a nearby apartment complex to abandon it "
The Untold Story by the MSM 8230 Ali Muhammad Brown Called Murdered 19 Year Old Brendan Tevlin as a 8220 Just Kill 8221 and said Was an act of 8220 Vengeance 8221 Against U.S. Military Killings in the Middle East Update Audio PLJ 8217 s Todd Pettengill Scared Monkeys




9. "....he murdered a New Jersey teenager as revenge for Muslims killed overseas."
Suspect says he murdered New Jersey teen as revenge for U.S. military killings in Middle East police - NY Daily News


10 ."....the murder of 19-year-old college student Brendan Tevlin....On June 25, Tevlin was driving home to Livingston when he was shot and killed in West Orange....Tevlin had no prior contact with Brown or the other two men charged with his murder."
Ali Muhammad Brown suspect in Brendan Tevlin murder accused in 2 Seattle murders - News 12 New Jersey




It seems that, unlike Trayvon Martin, if Barack Obama had a son, he would not have looked liked Brendan Tevlin.

The actual quote in context..
"ISIL is not 'Islamic. No religion condones the killing of innocents, and the vast majority of ISIL's victims have been Muslim. And ISIL is certainly not a state; it was formerly al Qaeda's affiliate in Iraq and has taken advantage of sectarian strife and Syria's civil war to gain territory on both sides of the Iraq-Syrian border. It is recognized by no government nor by the people it subjugates."

Two lies pop out immediately.

1. ISIL is Islamic

2. Innocents are regularly killed in its name.


"While announcing that he's expanding the campaign against the Islamic State extremist group into Syria, Obama said flatly that this group, which is trying to install a caliphate in the Middle East, "is not Islamic." He didn't say they are perverting their religion; he said they're not even part of that religion."
Obama says the Islamic State 8216 is not Islamic. 8217 Americans disagree. - The Washington Post



You're not really going to endorse that speech, are you?

You took his statement out of context to support your post and are applying your own interpretation.

So....you think he is simply inarticulate?

The Washington Post, beyond Liberal, didn't.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The liberal state controlled media will never cover this story. We might as well rename it Pravda and base all media headquarters in the whitehouse.

Except the press and the Obama administration do not get along. Nice try promoting bullshit though, many on the right will believe you.

"...the press and the Obama administration do not get along."

Not quite up (down) to the level of Obama says the Islamic State 'is not Islamic.'

...but, deserving of dishonorable mention.

is fred phelps Christianity?

Who did he kill?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The president is trying not to condemn innocent Muslims for the actions of the guilty Muslims. What's wrong with that?

What's wrong is that, like you, he has difficulty speaking the truth.


"Obama says the Islamic State ‘is not Islamic.’ Americans disagree.
...Obama has emphasized one point while talking about Islamist extremists: They are not practicing Islam,....

While announcing that he's expanding the campaign against the Islamic State extremist group into Syria, Obama said flatly that this group, which is trying to install a caliphate in the Middle East, "is not Islamic." He didn't say they are perverting their religion; he said they're not even part of that religion.

A Pew Research Center poll released just hours before Obama's speech showed that 50 percent of Americans see Islam as a religion that "is more likely than others to encourage violence among its believers." The figure's up sharply from earlier this year and is the highest since Pew started asking that question in 2002."
Obama says the Islamic State 8216 is not Islamic. 8217 Americans disagree. - The Washington Post

Did they poll the 99% of Muslims who do not engage in violence because of their religion?

40% of Indonesians approve of violence in defense of Islam.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailweekly.asp?fileid=20060728.@03

Pew Global: 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
13% of Indonesian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
12% of Jordanian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
7% of Muslim Israelis say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
Support for Suicide Bombings and Bin Laden Still High Among Some Muslims CNS News(Pew Global Attitudes Project September, 2009)

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm a fairly religious person. If someone from my church was planing to bomb an abortion clinic, I'd tell the police. If I stay silent, I become part of the criminal act.

You mean you wouldn't want to deport all Christians, like one poster earlier said of Muslims, and the OP quietly endorsed?

"... the OP quietly endorsed?"

Provide where I endorsed same or accept your appellation....you are a lying sack of sewage.

A tacit endorsement. Do you need a definition of 'tacit'? Or would you rather clarify your position by stating for the record that the other poster is full of shit?

tac·it(t

s

t)
adj.
1. Not spoken:
tacit - definition of tacit by The Free Dictionary


So I never said any such thing.

And you are a lying sack of sewage.

 

[saveliberty]

I was very specific about someone from my church participating in something illegal. It was disingenuous to expand it NYC.

Muslims tolerance for violence is quite obvious, given their history in the last 30 years.

 

[Mac1958]

Religion can be like politics in that once a group can't effectively police itself, big problems occur.

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[PoliticalChic]

I was very specific about someone from my church participating in something illegal. It was disingenuous to expand it NYC.

Muslims tolerance for violence is quite obvious, given their history in the last 30 years.

"...given their history in the last 30 years."


Far, far longer.

1. Jews had lived in Iraq for some 2600 years, but the origin of this mass Muslim movement was in 627. At that time, Mohammed, defending Medina, judged the Jewish tribe to be guilty of aiding the Meccan attackers, and oversaw such acts as the beheading of 900 captives of the Banu Qurayzah tribe, he watched the bodies thrown into a pit.(… in his 1895 biography of Muhammad ("Mahomet and Islam", London, 1895, p. 151), which relied entirely on the original Muslim sources, the scholar Sir William Muir observed:

2. "The massacre of the Banu Coreiza was a barbarous deed which cannot be justified by any reason of political necessity the indiscriminate slaughter of the whole tribe cannot be recognized otherwise than as an act of monstrous cruelty?")
http://www.andrewbostom.org/loj//content/view/38/27/

3. The extermination of the Jews of Medina represents the iconic moment in Islam, just as the Sermon on the Mount is the iconic moment of Christianity, or the parting of the Red Sea is for the Jews.”
Edwin Black in his book, “ The Farhud: The Roots of the Arab-Nazi Alliance in the Holocaust"

 

[JoeB131]

I was very specific about someone from my church participating in something illegal. It was disingenuous to expand it NYC.

Muslims tolerance for violence is quite obvious, given their history in the last 30 years.

"...given their history in the last 30 years."


Far, far longer.

1. Jews had lived in Iraq for some 2600 years, but the origin of this mass Muslim movement was in 627. At that time, Mohammed, defending Medina, judged the Jewish tribe to be guilty of aiding the Meccan attackers, and oversaw such acts as the beheading of 900 captives of the Banu Qurayzah tribe, he watched the bodies thrown into a pit.(… in his 1895 biography of Muhammad ("Mahomet and Islam", London, 1895, p. 151), which relied entirely on the original Muslim sources, the scholar Sir William Muir observed:

2. "The massacre of the Banu Coreiza was a barbarous deed which cannot be justified by any reason of political necessity the indiscriminate slaughter of the whole tribe cannot be recognized otherwise than as an act of monstrous cruelty?")
http://www.andrewbostom.org/loj//content/view/38/27/

3. The extermination of the Jews of Medina represents the iconic moment in Islam, just as the Sermon on the Mount is the iconic moment of Christianity, or the parting of the Red Sea is for the Jews.”
Edwin Black in his book, “ The Farhud: The Roots of the Arab-Nazi Alliance in the Holocaust"

Unlike Christians, who have always treated the Jews with such dignity.

Except for the Spanish Inquisition.
And the Holocaust.

But I mean, other than that.

 

[Redfish]

I was very specific about someone from my church participating in something illegal. It was disingenuous to expand it NYC.

Muslims tolerance for violence is quite obvious, given their history in the last 30 years.

correction 3000 years

 

[asaratis]

This fails as a straw man fallacy.


There is no 'liberal media,' and it's ignorant nonsense and a lie to maintain that 'the media' are 'controlled' by the state or the WH.

That the media report facts which conflict with your errant, subjective rightwing dogma does not make them 'liberal.'

When the media kisses the ass of liberalism on a daily basis, repeats the liberal talking points incessantly, suppresses the broadcast of stories that put liberalism in a bad light...the media is liberal.

MSNBC and several others literally reek of liberalism. It all has to do with the political leanings of those that control the programming.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'm a fairly religious person. If someone from my church was planing to bomb an abortion clinic, I'd tell the police. If I stay silent, I become part of the criminal act.

You mean you wouldn't want to deport all Christians, like one poster earlier said of Muslims, and the OP quietly endorsed?

"... the OP quietly endorsed?"

Provide where I endorsed same or accept your appellation....you are a lying sack of sewage.

A tacit endorsement. Do you need a definition of 'tacit'? Or would you rather clarify your position by stating for the record that the other poster is full of shit?

tac·it(t

s

t)
adj.
1. Not spoken:
tacit - definition of tacit by The Free Dictionary


So I never said any such thing.

And you are a lying sack of sewage.

So you concede that it is wrong to attack an entire religion based on the actions of a few.

Odd then that such was the point of this thread, authored by you.