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Geez, it's getting so you can't shoot somebody any more without a flood of whackadoos hatching dozens of conspiracy theories about who made you the patsy!
MAGA world is currently tearig itself apart over a claim by Candace Owens that Charlie Kirk was murdered by Bibi Netanyahu. Her allegations are supported by statements from Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, and others, though they don't agree on the framework of the conspiracy.
Apparently good ol' Charlie, a priorly fervent supporter of Israel, was having second thoughts about the Gaza genocide and Bibi's part in all of it, and was voicing those concerns to fellow MAGAs. I.e. Carlson, Kelly, et al.
Billionaire Bill Ackman funded a private retreat for MAGA leadership and Kirk was one of the attendees.
As an aside, make note of Ackman's funding of MAGAs when you whine about Soros funding activists.
Oh. Both are Jews, by the way.
So anyway, Owens claims Ackman and others ambushed Kirk at the Hampton retreat over Kirk seeing the light on Israel and Gaza. Kirk's change of heart was causing serious pushback from TPUSA donors, apparently.
Other attendees have claimed they saw no such argument. But, you know, closed doors and all.
Here's Tucker Carlson's eyewitness account:
But I don't think I've ever seen anything lower than his attempt to hijack Charlie's memory and use it for his own political ends, particularly because what he said was completely untrue. Charlie didn't Jews. He loved Jews. He had tons of friends who were Jews. He loved the state of Israel. He loved going there. He did not like Bibi Netanyahu, and he said that to me many times, and he said to people around him many times. He felt that Bibi Netanyahu was a very destructive force. He was appalled by what was happening in Gaza. He was above all resentful that he believed Netanyahu was using the United States to prosecute his wars for the benefit of his country, and that it was He was shameful and embarrassing and bad for the United States, and he resented it. He didn't hate Netanyahu. He wasn't out there with a placard saying that, but he certainly expressed that to me and a lot of other people.
There's no question that Bibi's defenders on the internet will call me a liar or a kook, but that's a fact. And enough text messages exist that I think it can probably be verified in pretty short order. Not that it needs to be because that is true. Shortly after that speech, there was a very intense on Charlie, and to some extent on me, not that I really noticed. But on him, I have no donors. He had $100 million worth of donors. And so because he was involved in a different project from just yapping on the internet, which is what I do for a living, he was dependent to a great extent on his donors, of course. It's a nonprofit. They went after him and tormented him. Not all, of course, many were supportive, but the ones who were offended by my speech, and there was a small, very intense group who were, tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he died. Two days before he died, he lost a $2 million donation because he had publicly pledged to bring me to the next Turning Point conference in December. He told me over the past couple of months, he was losing a lot of donations over that pledge.
More:
I'm not trying to mutter darkly or imply anything. There's a lot we don't know about who murdered Charlie and why, but I don't know, and I'm not going to pretend that I do. But I think it's important to say that out loud because it's a fact, and there are many liars out there, Bibi Netanyahu, number one among them, shamefully, who are trying to distort the truth, a truth that I know and can prove. The last thing I'll say about Charlie is that his views were changing on topics that had nothing to do with foreign policy, the famous red line, third rail, can't talk about it. But it's possible that the subject makes people even matter in in Washington, New York, and LA, than having nonconventional foreign policy views, is having nonconventional economic views. Men, they really don't like that at all. Charlie's views on economics and on the way that wealth is distributed in the United States were changing fast, really changing fast and hardening, not because he was a socialist, hardly. He was about as much of a socialist as I am, not at all, but because he lived here and he spent a lot of time with young people, and he couldn't help but notice because he was an observant an honest person, that they're not thriving at all, and that the chances they'll have lives comparable to the ones they had growing up are very small.
Transcript of Tucker Carlson: America After Charlie Kirk
Bilionaires don't like it when their bought and paid for media puppets whose activism they go to all the trouble of funding start pointing out the economy is totally rigged in their favor.
.
MAGA world is currently tearig itself apart over a claim by Candace Owens that Charlie Kirk was murdered by Bibi Netanyahu. Her allegations are supported by statements from Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, and others, though they don't agree on the framework of the conspiracy.
Apparently good ol' Charlie, a priorly fervent supporter of Israel, was having second thoughts about the Gaza genocide and Bibi's part in all of it, and was voicing those concerns to fellow MAGAs. I.e. Carlson, Kelly, et al.
Billionaire Bill Ackman funded a private retreat for MAGA leadership and Kirk was one of the attendees.
As an aside, make note of Ackman's funding of MAGAs when you whine about Soros funding activists.
Oh. Both are Jews, by the way.
So anyway, Owens claims Ackman and others ambushed Kirk at the Hampton retreat over Kirk seeing the light on Israel and Gaza. Kirk's change of heart was causing serious pushback from TPUSA donors, apparently.
Other attendees have claimed they saw no such argument. But, you know, closed doors and all.
Here's Tucker Carlson's eyewitness account:
But I don't think I've ever seen anything lower than his attempt to hijack Charlie's memory and use it for his own political ends, particularly because what he said was completely untrue. Charlie didn't Jews. He loved Jews. He had tons of friends who were Jews. He loved the state of Israel. He loved going there. He did not like Bibi Netanyahu, and he said that to me many times, and he said to people around him many times. He felt that Bibi Netanyahu was a very destructive force. He was appalled by what was happening in Gaza. He was above all resentful that he believed Netanyahu was using the United States to prosecute his wars for the benefit of his country, and that it was He was shameful and embarrassing and bad for the United States, and he resented it. He didn't hate Netanyahu. He wasn't out there with a placard saying that, but he certainly expressed that to me and a lot of other people.
There's no question that Bibi's defenders on the internet will call me a liar or a kook, but that's a fact. And enough text messages exist that I think it can probably be verified in pretty short order. Not that it needs to be because that is true. Shortly after that speech, there was a very intense on Charlie, and to some extent on me, not that I really noticed. But on him, I have no donors. He had $100 million worth of donors. And so because he was involved in a different project from just yapping on the internet, which is what I do for a living, he was dependent to a great extent on his donors, of course. It's a nonprofit. They went after him and tormented him. Not all, of course, many were supportive, but the ones who were offended by my speech, and there was a small, very intense group who were, tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he died. Two days before he died, he lost a $2 million donation because he had publicly pledged to bring me to the next Turning Point conference in December. He told me over the past couple of months, he was losing a lot of donations over that pledge.
More:
I'm not trying to mutter darkly or imply anything. There's a lot we don't know about who murdered Charlie and why, but I don't know, and I'm not going to pretend that I do. But I think it's important to say that out loud because it's a fact, and there are many liars out there, Bibi Netanyahu, number one among them, shamefully, who are trying to distort the truth, a truth that I know and can prove. The last thing I'll say about Charlie is that his views were changing on topics that had nothing to do with foreign policy, the famous red line, third rail, can't talk about it. But it's possible that the subject makes people even matter in in Washington, New York, and LA, than having nonconventional foreign policy views, is having nonconventional economic views. Men, they really don't like that at all. Charlie's views on economics and on the way that wealth is distributed in the United States were changing fast, really changing fast and hardening, not because he was a socialist, hardly. He was about as much of a socialist as I am, not at all, but because he lived here and he spent a lot of time with young people, and he couldn't help but notice because he was an observant an honest person, that they're not thriving at all, and that the chances they'll have lives comparable to the ones they had growing up are very small.
Transcript of Tucker Carlson: America After Charlie Kirk
Bilionaires don't like it when their bought and paid for media puppets whose activism they go to all the trouble of funding start pointing out the economy is totally rigged in their favor.
.
