The "Beautiful" Budget bill in Congress right now (pushed by both Trump and Johnson), would raise National debt by $4 Trillion, if passed!

[leftwinger]

And there's that dead silence about Trump and the organization formerly known as the Republican Party adding debt. There's that willful blindness I have been talking about for years.

Boom.

Now Trump is demanding the debt ceiling be suspended. There is one, and only one, reason a big spender wants the debt ceiling suspended.

Just like the last time it was suspended TWICE while he and the GOP controlled everything.

You're right MAC JOE G500. Congress is the issue. Chock full of Deep STATE. 14 mpnths yhey worked on bill, pre-Trump. Thanks for stopping by.

Trump has to right the USA ship from Obiden auto pen corruption, fight thec dirty lying posters and media, get GDP going upwards. He can't do it w/o getting things going thru deep state quagmire. We are lucky he is willing to try for us.//

 

[leftwinger]

Sweet mother XMAS. Weird Day. I am fighting with Trump and Musk and now agreeing with Lynsee Gramm? WTH?>

 

[AntonToo]

They could have been much better. But Trump added $7.8 trillion and Biden added $8.5 trillion.

For the fourth time - no, no they didn't.

I showed you deficit effects of their policies. THAT is what they added to baseline deficits.

The rest is your inability to deal with reality in healthy ways. You are such a partisan tool that you will deny the obvious all day long to maintain a falsehood you've come to belive for partisan reasons.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

For the fourth time - no, no they didn't.

I showed you deficit effects of their policies THAT is what they added to baseline deficits.

The rest is your inability to deal with reality in healthy ways. You are such a partisan tool that you will deny the obvious all day long to maintain a falsehood you've come to belive for partisan reasons.

I showed you deficit effects of their policies

You showed me someone's claims of the future effects.
I showed actual debt added.

 

[AntonToo]

I showed you deficit effects of their policies

You showed me someone's claims of the future effects.
I showed actual debt added.

...you seriously belive that policies signed into law cease to have fiscal effects once a president leaves office?

Actual debt is baseline debt plus a president's policy effects limited to the duration of their term. It's a stupid way to measure president's contrbution to deficit, but you insist on it anyway because without stupid arguments like that you'd have to do something you can't stomach - admit a politically inconvinient fact that Trump's executed policy contributed far more to our deficits than Biden's.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

...you seriously belive that policies signed into law cease to have fiscal effects once a president leaves office?

Actual debt is baseline debt plus a president's policy effects limited to the duration of their term. It's a superficial, stupid measure of president's contrbution to deficit and you sound silly when you claim that we should seriously measure it that way.

Now, back to your original claim, show that "Trump spent trillions more than Biden".

 

[AntonToo]

Now, back to your original claim, show that "Trump spent trillions more than Biden".

Dumbass, you've got shown it 10 posts ago and have not refuted even a word.

What else would I possibly need to show?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Dumbass, you've got shown it 10 posts ago and have not refuted even a word.

What else would I possibly need to show?

When did Trump sign his last budget?

Now show me where Biden is bound to sign a budget that includes
spending promised, but not yet appropriated, during Trump's last year.

Biden promised trillions of future green subsidies in his Inflation Reduction Act.
If Trump doesn't include the funding for those subsidies for 2026, 2027, 2028,
does that money get spent?

If Trump promised to spend $30 billion over the next 3 years to build a wall, and Congress appropriates $0, how much did Trump spend?

 

[AntonToo]

When did Trump sign his last budget?

Now show me where Biden is bound to sign a budget that includes
spending promised, but not yet appropriated, during Trump's last year.

Biden promised trillions of future green subsidies in his Inflation Reduction Act.
If Trump doesn't include the funding for those subsidies for 2026, 2027, 2028,
does that money get spent?

If Trump promised to spend $30 billion over the next 3 years to build a wall, and Congress appropriates $0, how much did Trump spend?

We are talking about policy they SIGNED INTO LAW.

Why not simply read the analisys you were given instead of posting these straw grasping convulsions?

 

[leftwinger]

For the fourth time - no, no they didn't.

I showed you deficit effects of their policies. THAT is what they added to baseline deficits.

The rest is your inability to deal with reality in healthy ways. You are such a partisan tool that you will deny the obvious all day long to maintain a falsehood you've come to belive for partisan reasons.

No one cares your tripe. ALL was better under Trump. Fighting all the deep state almost single handily to save America for our Children you crazed wild eyed Stain.//

 

[AntonToo]

No one cares your tripe. ALL was better under Trump.

Wow. 2020 was "better" for you? An economic standstill and 4 trillion dollar deficit is "better"? Better than what?

Do you have any idea how damaged you sound? You litterally block out of your mind anything bad that happens during your Dear Leader stay in office.

 

[leftwinger]

Wow. 2020 was "better" for you? An economic standstill and 4 trillion dollar deficit is "better"? Better than what?

Do you have any idea how damaged you sound? You litterally block out of your mind anything bad that happens during your Dear Leader stay in office.

Your boys worked to launch and spread a man-made virus made in China and you chirp about Trump? They demanded no one go to work (or school!) in most big DEM strongholds. Why? To destroy Trump economy and rig the 2020 vote as a bonus

Yet you? You still Chirp? Are you insane?

 

[AntonToo]

Your boys worked to launch and spread a man-made virus made in China and you chirp about Trump? They demanded no one go to work (or school!) in most big DEM strongholds. Why? To destroy Trump economy and rig the 2020 vote as a bonus

Yet you? You still Chirp? Are you insane?

Not a single word you've just said refutes that we were worse off in 2020.

What you've said about everything being better off under Trump is pure nutbag fantasy.

 

[Nostra]

Dumbass, you've got shown it 10 posts ago and have not refuted even a word.

What else would I possibly need to show?

Ok liar, let me expose your lies.

Total spending under Trump: $22.355 Trillion (with a pandemic)

Total spending under your Vegetable Messiah: $24.717 TRILLION.

Federal Budget Receipts and Outlays: | The American Presidency Project

www.presidency.ucsb.edu

 

[Nostra]

The bill passed by the House makes around $600 billion in cuts to Medicaid. About 10.9 million people could lose their coverage over the next 10 years, according to Wednesday’s estimate by the Congressional Budget Office.

Hey stupid…..

 

[ColonelAngus]

Ok liar, let me expose your lies.

Total spending under Trump: $22.355 Trillion (with a pandemic)

Total spending under your Vegetable Messiah: $24.717 TRILLION.

Federal Budget Receipts and Outlays: | The American Presidency Project

www.presidency.ucsb.edu

Come on, man.

No one on earth knew Biden was senile and riddled with cancer. It was IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANYONE TO KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHITE HOUSE DOCTORS!

How could WHITE HOUSE DOCTORS KNOW JOE WAS SENILE AND HAD PROSTATE CANCER?

I agree with the Biden asslickers. Impossible for anyone on earth to know Joe was senile and cancer stricken. IMPOSSIBLE!

 

[ColonelAngus]

Trump is the nexus of morality.

Whether something is good is solely determined by whether Trump does it.

When TRUMP does it, it is good.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We are talking about policy they SIGNED INTO LAW.

Why not simply read the analisys you were given instead of posting these straw grasping convulsions?

Congress cannot bind a future congress to spend money.
Any money spent on Trump policies during the Biden administration
had to be appropriated by Congress and signed by Biden.

Keep pretending Biden was helpless.

Trump did not "spend trillions more than Biden" and, as I've already shown,
Biden added more to the debt than Trump.

 

[AntonToo]

Congress cannot bind a future congress to spend money.

Thats a cool story.

But reality is that American default on it's obligations is not a palatable option.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Thats a cool story.

But reality is that American default on it's obligations is not a palatable option.

The wasteful spending on Biden's green energy fiascos can definitely be ended with no negative consequence.