The BDS Movement Is About Dismantling Israel

[aris2chat]

In answer to Billy's question as to why there are Jews in this movement, maybe this can help him. I have a great idea. Since these Jews and Billy want to appear as great humanitarians, why don't they start a BDS movement against those countries where killing people in the name of a religion is a very common thing. Surely, Billy doesn't want to wear a piece of clothing made in a country where the citizens have no problems killing Catholics and other non Muslims.

The BDS movement and the opportunistic exploitation of self-denying Jews ? Opinion ? ABC Religion & Ethics (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

You said you were going to answer the question, not lay down some lame ass, off-topic, troll rap!

You mean you don't know that if you ask two jews that you will get at least three opinions? They can question and debate from more than one perspective at a time.
Jews are not clones that all think and move the same. Like all people they can vary vastly.

Hate mongers are the ones that like to march in goose step together.

 

[Roudy]

students speak!


The BDS Movement Is About Dismantling Israel, Not The '67 Occupation
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Early Wednesday morning the University of Michigan's student government voted down a resolution that would have begun the process of divesting from companies doing business with Israel. It was the latest defeat for the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement which is dedicated to fighting Israel by isolating it, particularly in the cultural and economic sectors.

Other than Prime Minister Netanyahu's decision to devote a full 25 percent of his recent speech to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) to condemning the BDS movement, it hasn't got very much to show for its efforts. And I don't expect it ever will.

The reason why BDS keeps failing despite the almost universal recognition that the occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and the blockade of Gaza, are illegal and immoral is that the BDS movement is not targeting the occupation per se. Its goal is the end of the State of Israel itself.

In its view, all of historic Palestine is occupied territory; that means Tel Aviv and Haifa as much as Hebron and Nablus. Obviously, a movement dedicated to eradication of Israel as a country is never going to achieve support other than from a radical fringe.....

And just what is that based on?

What part of the BDS movement has led you to that conclusion?

Read the article.

 

[Roudy]

Why don't you tell us exactly how many Christians are being kiled by Israelis. If the Israelis were killing all these Christians, I doubt if the Greek Orthodox priest would be trying to convince his members to join the IDF. Are we back to Rachel Corrie again? Sad how a mentally ill girl was convinced to join that radical ISM group. Nobody in their right mind plays chickie with a bulldozer. I imagine you had nio problem with the armed terrorist hiding out in the offices of the ISM and who subsequently blew himself up in Mike's Place in Tel Aviv, killing several people and wounding many more. There was a poster whose young cousin happened to be at Mike's Place with her parents when this happened. First she had to have her leg amputated and then undergo several operations. Even so, she eventually passed away.

What kind of sick piece of shit runs over a person (he just got done talking to) with a bulldozer, stops, then backs up on to her for good measure?

What kind of moron stands in front of a supersized bulldozer win blind spots all around it?

 

[Billo_Really]

Read the article.

I did. And all it does is "say", the movement is trying to take down Israel, but it doesn't offer any evidence as to why (or how) that conclusion is drawn.

If you make a claim, you should at least be able to state what that claim is based on, the article didn't.

 

[Billo_Really]

What kind of moron stands in front of a supersized bulldozer win blind spots all around it?

She wasn't in a blind spot and the operator had just finished a conversation with her moments before he deliberately ran her over.

The fact that he stopped, then backed up on to her again, shows it did it deliberately.

And anyone defending him, is just a fucked human being.

 

[Billo_Really]

You mean you don't know that if you ask two jews that you will get at least three opinions? They can question and debate from more than one perspective at a time.
Jews are not clones that all think and move the same. Like all people they can vary vastly.

Hate mongers are the ones that like to march in goose step together.

Like the ones who constantly demonize Palestinian's every chance they get?

 

[Roudy]

What kind of moron stands in front of a supersized bulldozer win blind spots all around it?

She wasn't in a blind spot and the operator had just finished a conversation with her moments before he deliberately ran her over.

The fact that he stopped, then backed up on to her again, shows it did it deliberately.

And anyone defending him, is just a fucked human being.

You have no proof whatsoever that she was intentionally run over. She was an anti American "activist" with psychological problems that was taken advantage by the Islamist animals, who misled and deceived her by first tricking her into standing in front of a bulldozer and second by making sure she dies, for media consumption.

 

[Billo_Really]

Are you saying, Billy, that you are actually sure the bulldozer operator (who could have been a Druze for all we know) saw the person fall down and could continue to see her? Why don't you try the same thing and see what happens? Plenty of construction sites around these days with bulldozers digging away? I notice that Billy ha nothing to say about the armed terrorist in the office of the ISM. Perhaps Billy can contact the Catholic documentary maker and ask him how he has done in rehab after being around when the terrorist blew himself up at Mike's Place.

Take those juvenile character assassinations and shove them up your ******* ass!

These lame ass hi-jacking attempts get old.

The mother-****** backed up on to her, he knew exactly where she was.

 

[Billo_Really]

You have no proof whatsoever that she was intentionally run over. She was an anti American "activist" with psychological problems that was taken advantage by the Islamist animals, who misled and deceived her by first tricking her into standing in front of a bulldozer and second by making sure she dies, for media consumption.

Typical irresponsible statement, blaming the victim, instead of the one who murdered her.

 

[Phoenall]

For the record, this is the BDS "mission statement":

Representatives of Palestinian civil society launched BDS in 2005, calling upon “international civil society organizations and people of conscience all over the world to impose broad boycotts and implement divestment initiatives against Israel similar to those applied to South African in the apartheid era . . . [including] embargoes and sanctions against Israel.”

The call for BDS specified that “these non-violent punitive measures” should last until Israel fully complies with international law by (1) ending its occupation and colonization of all Arab lands and dismantling the barrier Wall; (2) recognizing the fundamental rights of the Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel to full equality; and (3) respecting, protecting and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their land as stipulated in UN resolution 194.

If the BDS movement is anti-Semitic, then why do they have jewish members?

Palestinian human rights activist Omar Barghouti wrote in the New York Times, “Arguing that boycotting Israel is intrinsically anti-Semitic is not only false, but it also presumes that Israel and ‘the Jews’ are one and the same. This is as absurd and bigoted as claiming that a boycott of a self-defined Islamic state like Saudi Arabia, say, because of its horrific human rights record, would of necessity be Islamophobic.”

If the civil rights movement in the USA had white members how could the whites be called racists.

A "Palestinian" would say that and you would believe what he says because you HATE THE JEWS so much. The BDS movement was bragged about by muslims 5 years ago as the 4th non violent intifada that would use the media to destroy Israel. Yiu have been suckered into fighting the war for islam because of your HATRED OF THE jews

 

[Phoenall]

Why don't you tell us exactly how many Christians are being kiled by Israelis. If the Israelis were killing all these Christians, I doubt if the Greek Orthodox priest would be trying to convince his members to join the IDF. Are we back to Rachel Corrie again? Sad how a mentally ill girl was convinced to join that radical ISM group. Nobody in their right mind plays chickie with a bulldozer. I imagine you had nio problem with the armed terrorist hiding out in the offices of the ISM and who subsequently blew himself up in Mike's Place in Tel Aviv, killing several people and wounding many more. There was a poster whose young cousin happened to be at Mike's Place with her parents when this happened. First she had to have her leg amputated and then undergo several operations. Even so, she eventually passed away.

What kind of sick piece of shit runs over a person (he just got done talking to) with a bulldozer, stops, then backs up on to her for good measure?

lOOK TO THE MUSLIMS

 

[Phoenall]

I think that the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) Movement is going to need to find a Permanent Headquarters.

I didn't know they had a headquarters problem?

To some degree, there is validity to the Omar Barghouti position that the BDS Movement is NOT "intrinsically anti-Semitic."

What do you mean, "...to some degree..."?

It's not anti-Semitic at all, in any degree.

I agree.


The "occupation", is the cause of all the violence.

Occupations are supposed to be temporary. This one has last almost 70 years. No other occupation in history has lasted this long and it is just ridiculous to try and justify something like that.

The occupation has to end. Period.


Israel was in breech of their side of the agreement, which, from that point on, made the "Accords", un-enforceable.



It's an Iron Curtain, just like the one Berlin had.

No they don't! There's jew-only roads; jew-only communities; jewish-Israeli's can have their spouses come to live with them in Israel, arab-Israeli's have restrictions, jewish-Israeli's do not. Arab-Israeli's have been taken off buses that were passing through jew-only communities.

That's not equal treatment.


All Israel has to do, is obey the law. That's it. And there will be peace.

The disputes between the Israeli and Palestinian are not expected to be resolved under the current political climate and given the expectations of the belligerent parties in the negotiations. We can always hope, but have no reason to expect success. Thus, the status quo is the most likely outcome.

Nothing will be resolved until the occupation ends. That's the first step.

A status quo outcome is much more favorable to the continued healthy economic development of Israel than is the alternative potentials offered by the negotiated outcomes with the Palestinians. The parasitic nature of the State of Palestine and the fact that is has a leadership and government that is incapable of standing on its own, able to focus on progressive programs beneficial to its constituents, will eventually lead to its collapse. Its dependence on donor contributions make it vulnerable to rapid deterioration and degeneration, while affording Israel greater security conditions.

The "occupied" are the "parasites"; the "occupiers" are not?

That's pretty whack!

The occupation is a direct result of the muslims violence towards mainly Israeli chidren

 

[Phoenall]

What kind of moron stands in front of a supersized bulldozer win blind spots all around it?

She wasn't in a blind spot and the operator had just finished a conversation with her moments before he deliberately ran her over.

The fact that he stopped, then backed up on to her again, shows it did it deliberately.

And anyone defending him, is just a fucked human being.

Have you any evidence from a non Palestinian source to back up your claims, or are you just spouting the ISLAMONAZI BLOOD LIBEL

 

[Phoenall]

You mean you don't know that if you ask two jews that you will get at least three opinions? They can question and debate from more than one perspective at a time.
Jews are not clones that all think and move the same. Like all people they can vary vastly.

Hate mongers are the ones that like to march in goose step together.

Like the ones who constantly demonize Palestinian's every chance they get?

YEP hamas has a lot to answer for don't they..............

 

[Phoenall]

Are you saying, Billy, that you are actually sure the bulldozer operator (who could have been a Druze for all we know) saw the person fall down and could continue to see her? Why don't you try the same thing and see what happens? Plenty of construction sites around these days with bulldozers digging away? I notice that Billy ha nothing to say about the armed terrorist in the office of the ISM. Perhaps Billy can contact the Catholic documentary maker and ask him how he has done in rehab after being around when the terrorist blew himself up at Mike's Place.

Take those juvenile character assassinations and shove them up your ******* ass!

These lame ass hi-jacking attempts get old.

The mother-****** backed up on to her, he knew exactly where she was.

Have you ever driven one of those massive Earthmoving machines and seen just how little you can see. Maybe you should try it before spouting the ISLAMONAZI BLOOD LIBELS you have been force fed. In the UK we have much smaller machines and they are pigs to see out of. We also have stricter health and safety laws that govern what should be put in place to safeguard lives . We still get accidents like this happening, usually because ignorant students think that 20 ton dozers can stop dead when they step out in front of them.
Your screeching out the ISLAMONAZI BLOOD LIBELS get even older

 

[Phoenall]

You have no proof whatsoever that she was intentionally run over. She was an anti American "activist" with psychological problems that was taken advantage by the Islamist animals, who misled and deceived her by first tricking her into standing in front of a bulldozer and second by making sure she dies, for media consumption.

Typical irresponsible statement, blaming the victim, instead of the one who murdered her.

Shows just how compassionate you are when you come out with such a statement, you are one sick puppy who needs help desperately.

 

[toastman]

What kind of moron stands in front of a supersized bulldozer win blind spots all around it?

She wasn't in a blind spot and the operator had just finished a conversation with her moments before he deliberately ran her over.

The fact that he stopped, then backed up on to her again, shows it did it deliberately.

And anyone defending him, is just a fucked human being.

What a filthy terrorist supporting liar you are.
How do you know he didn't see her?? Were you there? Were you in the bulldozer? And what kind of a person stands in front of massive bulldozer that has all that armour and protection on it?

 

[RoccoR]

Billo_Really, et al,

Let's look at this.

I think that the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) Movement is going to need to find a Permanent Headquarters.

I didn't know they had a headquarters problem?

(COMMENT)

This was, in many respects, tongue 'n' cheek --- expressing the idea that the BDS Movement is going to need to plan for a very long duration to the movement.

To some degree, there is validity to the Omar Barghouti position that the BDS Movement is NOT "intrinsically anti-Semitic."

What do you mean, "...to some degree..."?

It's not anti-Semitic at all, in any degree.

I agree.

The "occupation", is the cause of all the violence.

Occupations are supposed to be temporary. This one has last almost 70 years. No other occupation in history has lasted this long and it is just ridiculous to try and justify something like that.

The occupation has to end. Period.

(COMMENT)

The occupation is as temporary as it takes to assure that the hostile enemy doesn't reemerge as a threat to the security of Israeli sovereignty; that the Hostile component to the Palestinian people has remodeled itself to a people willing to live in peace with the Israel. If that takes 7 days, 7 weeks, 7 years, or 70 years, the occupation will continue until the hostile enemy element it converted to a peaceful entity.

Israel was in breech of their side of the agreement, which, from that point on, made the "Accords", un-enforceable.

It's an Iron Curtain, just like the one Berlin had.

(COMMENT)

Exactly how is the Israeli in breach?

No they don't! There's jew-only roads; jew-only communities; jewish-Israeli's can have their spouses come to live with them in Israel, arab-Israeli's have restrictions, jewish-Israeli's do not. Arab-Israeli's have been taken off buses that were passing through jew-only communities.

That's not equal treatment.

(COMMENT)

I have no knowledge of this. I find it hard to believe since that would include:

• Major General Hussain Fares, former Commander of the Border Police.
  
• Major General Yosef Mishlav, former Head of the Home Front Command and former Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories.
  
• Jamal Hakroush became the first Muslim Arab Deputy Inspector-General in the Israeli Police. He has previously served as district commander of two districts.

All Israel has to do, is obey the law. That's it. And there will be peace.

(COMMENT)

First, the Palestinian has to purge the Jihadist and Fedayeen from the population; and be willing to live in peace --- then the Israelis might consider adjusting their position. But the past history of the Palestinian has not instilled any faith in peaceful pursuits. So the Palestinian has to make the first demonstrated act of peace.

The disputes between the Israeli and Palestinian are not expected to be resolved under the current political climate and given the expectations of the belligerent parties in the negotiations. We can always hope, but have no reason to expect success. Thus, the status quo is the most likely outcome.

Nothing will be resolved until the occupation ends. That's the first step.

(COMMENT)

Hense the need for a permanent BDS Headquarters.

A status quo outcome is much more favorable to the continued healthy economic development of Israel than is the alternative potentials offered by the negotiated outcomes with the Palestinians. The parasitic nature of the State of Palestine and the fact that is has a leadership and government that is incapable of standing on its own, able to focus on progressive programs beneficial to its constituents, will eventually lead to its collapse. Its dependence on donor contributions make it vulnerable to rapid deterioration and degeneration, while affording Israel greater security conditions.

The "occupied" are the "parasites"; the "occupiers" are not?

That's pretty whack!

(COMMENT)

Oh, yes --- the Palestinian is the parasite. That is not "whack" at all.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

Rocky, the honest broker, now calls the Palestinians "parasites". What a tool.

 

[SAYIT]

Rocky, the honest broker, now calls the Palestinians "parasites". What a tool.

Nobody is perfect but Rocco is about as even-handed as any here.
True story.