Zone1 The "Baby Mama" phenomenon in Black culture. The flip side of 75 percent Fatherless homes.

[MarathonMike]

there's nothing to discuss. The show had no artistic value other than re-inforcing negative stereotypes, and the rapper involved was too clueless to get it.

We have enough trash reality TV.

I didn't make up the TV series All My Babies Mamas that was cancelled before it even aired. I didn't write all the articles on all the Baby Mamas who think it's just fine to have unprotected sex with lots of men and have multiple babies. It is a HUGE problem that is the pipeline that feeds the inner city drug/gang/violence problems. Pretending it doesn't exist insures that the problem will continue growing. Funding for counseling, tracking down the Baby Maker deadbeat dads and yes vasectomies and tubal ligations or whatever should be considered.

 

[AMart]

There was a TV series about this called "All My Babies Mamas" that was cancelled in 2013 before it aired a single episode. Far too honest and realistic to be shown, no doubt.

All My Babies' Mamas (partially found unaired reality television series; 2013) - The Lost Media Wiki

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Lol they need whites for civilization can't do it on their own.

 

[AMart]

Blacks litter and trash their own hoods,...,.... because ****** can't make me not do it. ******* retards.

 

[Hector12]

Your reasoning is circular. Crime happens because of racism, because they are more likely to be poor, more likely to abused by the Prison-Industrial complex.

This statement is bizarre even for you. Crime is never justified. Racism is not the cause of black social pathology, but the result. Black crime is the result of black criminals thinking that their unacceptable behavior will be tolerated.

Blacks have high crime rates everywhere they live. Most black crime is directed against other blacks.

 

[Hector12]

Understood by who, inbred white racists who were terrified of competing with them for jobs and women?

Whites tend to be quite a bit more intelligent than blacks. Men tend to be quite a bit more stronger than women.

Consequently, few whites fear competeing with Negroes for jobs that require intelligence. Few men fear competing with women for jobs that require strength. We oppose affirmative policies that reduce intellectual standards for women and physical standards for women.

 

[Hector12]

Blacks litter and trash their own hoods,...,.... because ****** can't make me not do it. ******* retards.

Litter and trash in Negro neighborhoods is a result of the fact that blacks are closer in time to a Paleolithic way of life. When Paleolithic hunters killed a prey animal there was no need to clean up after eating the animal. When its remains began to decay and spread disease the hunters would be somewhere else. When farmers killed a domestic animal they needed to dispose of the remains or they would spread disease.

These different situations affected the different evolution of white and black inclinations.

Negroes tend to be less civilized than whites because human evolution has prepared fewer of them for characteristics necessary to thrive in civilized countries. This is the reason blacks tend to be less intelligent than whites, and why they have much higher rates of crime and illegitimacy. These Negro characteristics in turn generate white racism.

 

[Lisa558]

This statement is bizarre even for you. Crime is never justified. Racism is not the cause of black social pathology, but the result. Black crime is the result of black criminals thinking that their unacceptable behavior will be tolerated.

Blacks have high crime rates everywhere they live. Most black crime is directed against other blacks.

The rates would come down if the OOW birthrate came down.

Also, the ones justifying crime are the liberals. Didn’t the Governor of Califronia or a mayor in a California city (forget which) suggest giving criminals $1000 a month “to reduce crime”? All they’re doing is INCENTIVIZING crime!

Just think: if you rob a store in California, you 1) get away with the goods, or if caught, no penalty, and 2) get $1,000 a month as a reward.

 

[Lisa558]

This statement is bizarre even for you. Crime is never justified. Racism is not the cause of black social pathology, but the result. Black crime is the result of black criminals thinking that their unacceptable behavior will be tolerated.

Blacks have high crime rates everywhere they live. Most black crime is directed against other blacks.

Also, to those who blame poverty for crime: there was a massive influx of poor, uneducated Jews into the country during the Great Immigration of 1880 - 1924.

They lived in tenement slums, working in sweatshops or factories all day, and eeking out a small living for their families. The streets were safe, and there was minimal if any crime. It all comes down to values.

(And before some antisemitic liberal, eager to make excuses for black crime, comes in with Meyer Landsky and the like, that was a miniscule percentage of the poor Jews.)

 

[Hector12]

Also, to those who blame poverty for crime: there was a massive influx of poor, uneducated Jews into the country during the Great Immigration of 1880 - 1924.

They lived in tenement slums, working in sweatshops or factories all day, and eeking out a small living for their families. The streets were safe, and there was minimal if any crime. It all comes down to values.

Poverty & Crime

Similarly, Jewish immigrants to America during the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries also repudiated criminality despite having to face extreme economic deprivation. Historian Max Dimont describes them:

“The majority of these immigrants had arrived penniless, all their worldly belongings wrapped in a bundle…. Most of [them] arrived in New York. Some made their way into other cities,… but the majority remained in New York, settling in the Lower East Side of Manhattan, [which was] a neighborhood of the poor. Sociologists, with their impressive charts showing the number of toilets (or lack of the), the number of people per room, the low per capita income, paint a dismal picture of the Lower East Side Jewish slum. But their charts do not capture its uniqueness. Though it bred tuberculosis and rheumatism, it did not breed crime and venereal disease. It did not spawn illiteracy, illegitimate children, or deserted wives. Library cards were in constant use.”[2]

Footnotes:​

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1. James Q. Wilson and Richard Herrnstein, Crime and Human Nature (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1985), p. 473.
2. Max I. Dimont, Jews, God, and History (New York: Penguin USA, 1994), pp. 373-374. (This book was originally published in 1962.)

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[Hector12]

(And before some antisemitic liberal, eager to make excuses for black crime, comes in with Meyer Landsky and the like, that was a miniscule percentage of the poor Jews.)

What about antisemitic conservatives? Are they exempt from your criticism.

 

[AMart]

Litter and trash in Negro neighborhoods is a result of the fact that blacks are closer in time to a Paleolithic way of life. When Paleolithic hunters killed a prey animal there was no need to clean up after eating the animal. When its remains began to decay and spread disease the hunters would be somewhere else. When farmers killed a domestic animal they needed to dispose of the remains or they would spread disease.

These different situations affected the different evolution of white and black inclinations.

Negroes tend to be less civilized than whites because human evolution has prepared fewer of them for characteristics necessary to thrive in civilized countries. This is the reason blacks tend to be less intelligent than whites, and why they have much higher rates of crime and illegitimacy. These Negro characteristics in turn generate white racism.

Harlem, no trash no litter what changed?

 

[Lisa558]

What about antisemitic conservatives? Are they exempt from your criticism.

The only people on this forum who make allusion to Jewish gangsters to try to explain away black crime have been liberals, including a moderator.

 

[Lisa558]

Harlem, no trash no litter what changed?

Not one butt crack is showing!

 

[Hector12]

The rates would come down if the OOW birthrate came down.

Also, the ones justifying crime are the liberals. Didn’t the Governor of Califronia or a mayor in a California city (forget which) suggest giving criminals $1000 a month “to reduce crime”? All they’re doing is INCENTIVIZING crime!

Just think: if you rob a store in California, you 1) get away with the goods, or if caught, no penalty, and 2) get $1,000 a month as a reward.

I am a New Deal Democrat. I still vote Democrat because of economic and environmental issues, and because Republican politicians only care about rich people. Nevertheless, I think the civil rights legislation and the War on Poverty were well intended mistakes. I believe I have made that clear.

In the two generations since 1963 most Negroes have behaved in ways that substantiate arguments - many of which were presented by Southern Democrats - against the civil rights legislation and the War on Poverty.

Charles Murray, Jared Taylor, and Professor's Arthur Jensen, Richard Herrnstein, and J. Philippe Rushton have presented scientific reasons for the ways most Negroes have disappointed optimistic predictions of their behavior once they were given equal rights.

In many respects I am a Southern Democrat of the old school. The New Deal and Franklin Roosevelt were popular in the Solid South.

 

[Hector12]

The only people on this forum who make allusion to Jewish gangsters to try to explain away black crime have been liberals, including a moderator.

"Jews won't replace us" is not a left wing slogan.

 

[JoeB131]

I didn't make up the TV series All My Babies Mamas that was cancelled before it even aired. I didn't write all the articles on all the Baby Mamas who think it's just fine to have unprotected sex with lots of men and have multiple babies. It is a HUGE problem that is the pipeline that feeds the inner city drug/gang/violence problems. Pretending it doesn't exist insures that the problem will continue growing. Funding for counseling, tracking down the Baby Maker deadbeat dads and yes vasectomies and tubal ligations or whatever should be considered.

Well, first and foremost, this wasn't a regular guy, it was a somewhat famous rapper who had a lot of groupies, just like a lot of white rock stars do. (Or did back in the day.)

Of course, he had the affluence to pay these women for child support.

This, however, is not "typical". Most unmarried black men who father children are involved in the children's lives.

They are contributing to the child's life.

The real problem is that they are often forced to game the system because it's not like the good old days when if you got a girl knocked up, you got a good union job and married her. So not surprisingly, women write unknown on the birth certificate, but they know damned well who got them pregnant.

On the other hand, the good old days of marrying a man you didn't really love because of a child are gone in days because women have more independence.

So it's not just black people who have seen an increase in out of wedlock births, it's also white folks.

 

[JoeB131]

The only people on this forum who make allusion to Jewish gangsters to try to explain away black crime have been liberals, including a moderator.

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[Hector12]

This, however, is not "typical". Most unmarried black men who father children are involved in the children's lives.

If they supported their childrn financially those children would not be on welfare.

 

[JoeB131]

Poverty & Crime

Similarly, Jewish immigrants to America during the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries also repudiated criminality despite having to face extreme economic deprivation. Historian Max Dimont describes them:

yet you still had Meier Lansky, Bugsy Seigal, The Purple Gang, etc.

Crime is what happens when there aren't other opportunities.

Jews always had the option of assimilating, as did the Italians and the Irish, which is why you saw declines in organized crime in those groups after a few generations.

German-Americans never had organized crime. I think it's a German thing, we are just too orderly to tolerate that kind of thing.

 

[JoeB131]

If they supported their childrn financially those children would not be on welfare.

Sure they would. People will ALWAYS game the system.

Hey, you know what happens when white people get 26 weeks of unemployment that pays almost as much as their previous job? They don't start looking hard until after week 15, when they apply for extensions, etc. Some people were living high on the hog during the Trump Recession (TM), with those enhanced benefits.

That said, I have always advocated replacing welfare with workfare.