The assault weapon ban? Not about mass shooters, it’s about Rittenhouse and McCloskys…..

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

I support a popular vote for president.
Republicans don't, they support the electoral college version.

You support the national vote first plan, which would go against the will of the people.

 

[woodwork201]

No, they couldn't.
Are all those state representatives spineless?
Only the republicans, when it comes to Trump.

No, shit, because they would lose.

BS.
The electors are chosen by the party at their state's party conventions.
During the general election your vote helps determine your State’s electors. When you vote for a Presidential candidate, you aren’t actually voting for President. You are telling your State which candidate you want your State to vote for at the meeting of electors. The States use these general election results (also known as the popular vote) to appoint their electors. The winning candidate’s State political party selects the individuals who will be electors.
Hmm...............the "people"

The electors are chosen by the process created by the State Legislatures - except in the cases where in 2020 the Democrat Secretaries of State and the Courts violated the Constitution and selected delegates by processes not created by the Legislatures.

Senators were once elected by the electoral college?
I don't think so.

You're so dishonest, disingenuous, it's just bizarre. We weren't talking about the election of the President by the electoral college, we were talking about the appointment of the delegates to the electoral college. You twist and lie in an attempt to create doubt for future readers.

Prior to the ratification of the 17th Amendment, Senators were appointed by the State Legislatures or by processes created by State Legislatures. The Senate represented the States, the House represented the people.

You really need to study the Connecticut Compromise that broke a deadlock between the Virginia and the New Jersey plans that nearly prevented the creation of our Constitution until the compromise left the Senate appointed by the State Legislatures.

Many small states, including the now giant New York, would not have joined the Union without that and, yet, the progressives found a way to strip it out of the Constitution after the fact. The amazing thing is that the small state legislatures actually agreed to having their power stripped.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You're the one that says there's a line and that some arms aren't protected.

And you, Scotsman, agree.
So, where is the line in the constitution between what weapons are protected and what weapons are not?
How do you know?

 

[Smokin' OP]

You support the national vote first plan, which would go against the will of the people.

WTF is the "vote first" plan?
I support the popular vote for president, idiot.

If it's good enough for county commissioners to congresspeople, then it's good enough for president.

 

[Smokin' OP]

The electors are chosen by the process created by the State Legislatures - except in the cases where in 2020 the Democrat Secretaries of State and the Courts violated the Constitution and selected delegates by processes not created by the Legislatures.

"Processes by state legislators".
Like what?

You're so dishonest, disingenuous, it's just bizarre. We weren't talking about the election of the President by the electoral college, we were talking about the appointment of the delegates to the electoral college. You twist and lie in an attempt to create doubt for future readers.

WTF?
I just posted how a delegate is appointed, at the party convention.

Prior to the ratification of the 17th Amendment, Senators were appointed by the State Legislatures or by processes created by State Legislatures. The Senate represented the States, the House represented the people.

You really need to study the Connecticut Compromise that broke a deadlock between the Virginia and the New Jersey plans that nearly prevented the creation of our Constitution until the compromise left the Senate appointed by the State Legislatures.

Many small states, including the now giant New York, would not have joined the Union without that and, yet, the progressives found a way to strip it out of the Constitution after the fact. The amazing thing is that the small state legislatures actually agreed to having their power stripped.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The assault weapon ban? Not about mass shooters, it’s about Rittenhouse and McCloskys…..​

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[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

WTF is the "vote first" plan?
I support the popular vote for president, idiot.

If it's good enough for county commissioners to congresspeople, then it's good enough for president.

Change the Constitution, then. Stop supporting laws that go against the will of the people.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Change the Constitution, then. Stop supporting laws that go against the will of the people.

That would be republicans..............................gaslighting only works on gullible republicans and Russians, so you're barking up the wrong tree, "genius".

 

[Meister]

WTF is the "vote first" plan?
I support the popular vote for president, idiot.

If it's good enough for county commissioners to congresspeople, then it's good enough for president.

The Senators and Congressmanare elected in state elections, not national elections.
The Presidency is elected in a national election.
Every state gets to be represented, not just the most populated.
Big Difference, Smokin'

 

[Smokin' OP]

The Senators and Congressmanare elected in state elections, not national elections.
The Presidency is elected in a national election.
Big Difference, Smokin'

No, it isn't.
They post how many people voted for a presidential candidate anyway.
What is the "big" difference?

 

[Meister]

No, it isn't.
They post how many people voted for a presidential candidate anyway.
What is the "big" difference?

I've already told you what the difference is.
I've even told you the reason why for the electorate.

We don't have mob rule, we have a representative democracy.

 

[Smokin' OP]

I've already told you what the difference is.

NO, you didn't.

I've even told you the reason why for the electorate.

Yeah, I got that.

We don't have mob rule, we have a representative democracy.

Yes, we do.
The mob being republicans.

Since 1988, Republicans won the presidential popular vote just once. It’s twice if you include 1988. That’s over 28 years!
During a span of 32 years from 1988 to 2020, Republicans and Democrats will have split White House occupancy 50/50, even though Republicans only won the popular vote twice (1988, 2004), while Democrats won the popular vote FIVE times (1992, 1996, 2000, 2008, 2012).

 

[Meister]

NO, you didn't.

Yeah, I got that.

Yes, we do.
The mob being republicans.

Since 1988, Republicans won the presidential popular vote just once. It’s twice if you include 1988. That’s over 28 years!
During a span of 32 years from 1988 to 2020, Republicans and Democrats will have split White House occupancy 50/50, even though Republicans only won the popular vote twice (1988, 2004), while Democrats won the popular vote FIVE times (1992, 1996, 2000, 2008, 2012).

Like I said, we don't have mob rule. Every state gets to be represented in the national election.
sheesh, it's not that difficult, smokin'

 

[Smokin' OP]

Like I said, we don't have mob rule. Every state gets to be represented in the national election.
sheesh, it's not that difficult, smokin'

No shit and they do get "representation".
How do you figure they wouldn't in a popular vote?
They have their elected state representatives.
Just as always.

Sheesh, it's not that difficult.

 

[flan327]

The democrats don’t care about mass public shootings and crime……look at democrat party controlled cities each week and the gun deaths there kill more than any mass public shooting………..why do the democrats want to get rid of semi-automatic rifle in particular?

Considering that knives are used to kill over 1,500 people every year while rifles of all types don’t even come close to that number?

The reasons the democrats want to get rid of AR-15 rifles is easy…..they are Kyle Rittenhouse and Mr. and Mrs. McClosky and you can throw in Korean grocery store owners and other business owners who stood outside their businesses with AR-15s and other rifles.

When the democrat party used their brown shirts…..BLM and antifa to loot, burn and kill…in primarily black neighborhoods, always remember that………the only times they were stopped were when Kyle killed two of them, and the McCloskys and others stood up to them, rifles in hand.

That is what drives the democrats and other leftists crazy….errrr…more crazy.

The fact that normal people stopped the democrat party brownshirts, BLM and antifa in their tracks…..even though though they vastly out numbered the innocent Americans they were sent to intimidate…. Scares and pisses off the democrats………

When the democrats send in BLM, and antifa to loot end burn minority businesses before an election, they can’t have those business owners shooting their brown shirts or stopping their brown shirts……..so these rifles have to go…….then they will come after the rest of the guns…..

I am SO SICK of the PARANOIA here

Build a DAMN bunker

 

[flan327]

And you, Scotsman, agree.
So, where is the line in the constitution between what weapons are protected and what weapons are not?
How do you know?

There is none

 

[Meister]

No shit and they do get "representation".
How do you figure they wouldn't in a popular vote?
They have their elected state representatives.
Just as always.

Sheesh, it's not that difficult.

You keep going with the mob rule, dude.
You know....two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

It really isn't that difficult, and you are no where near as smart as the dumbest of the Founding Fathers.

 

[Smokin' OP]

You keep going with the mob rule, dude.
You know....two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

WTF does that have to do with..................ANYTHING?
Everyone already knows that............or they should.

It really isn't that difficult,

NO shit.
But you can't explain the "BIG difference"?

and you are no where near as smart as the dumbest of the Founding Fathers.

Sure.
Out of 195 countries in the world.
Only 11, elect their leaders, not all for their president, in an "electoral college' but similar, vote.
Burma.
Burundi.
Estonia.
India.
Madagascar
Nepal.
Pakistan.
Trinidad.
Tobago.
Vanuatu.
Vatican city.

The 12th being the US.

535 "Electors" deciding for 335 million people?
Yeah, THAT makes sense.

We should transfer the same with governors, with counties having "delegates".

 

[bigrebnc1775]

WTF does that have to do with..................ANYTHING?
Everyone already knows that............or they should.

NO shit.
But you can't explain the "BIG difference"?

Sure.
Out of 195 countries in the world.
Only 11, elect their leaders, not all for their president, in an "electoral college' but similar, vote.
Burma.
Burundi.
Estonia.
India.
Madagascar
Nepal.
Pakistan.
Trinidad.
Tobago.
Vanuatu.
Vatican city.

The 12th being the US.

535 "Electors" deciding for 335 million people?
Yeah, THAT makes sense.

We should transfer the same with governors, with counties having "delegates".

By your standard only California New York Texas and Florida would have a say in electing a president.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

That would be republicans..............................gaslighting only works on gullible republicans and Russians, so you're barking up the wrong tree, "genius".

No, you're the one that supports the national vote first plan.