The Anti-Hero and American Politics

[Hutch Starskey]

when was trump on trial in Colorado?....

You missed the civil trial and the two subsequent appeals?

 

[Lesh]

You type LIES and I post the TRUTH with LINKS. Here it is again, from Huffington Post, a Leftist anti-Trump link.

Trump and Capitol Police Chief Sund BOTH requested that the National Guard be there on J6 and Nancy Pelosi's Sgt. at Arms Irving denied their requests because of Nancy's policy. So why would Trump want the NG there if he was planning an insurrection?
The only one planning an insurrection on J6 was the FBI (Waffen SS)

House Security Chief Said Optics Played Role In Denying Early Request For National Guard

Former House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving said he believed congressional leadership would be wary of military at the Capitol on Jan. 6.

www.huffpost.com

"Former House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving said optics played a role in his decision to decline an early (J4) request from the U.S. Capitol Police for National Guard assistance in protecting the Capitol on Jan. 6"

If the NG was activated as Trump and Sund requested there would have been no riot on J6.

Why would Trump want the NG there?

He STATED that he wanted them there to “protect HIS people”… ya know the insurrectionists. And that was why the Secretary of Defense ignored him.

Why would he NOT want them there once the attack on the Capitol had begun?

Because he knew they’d put an end to it and he didn’t want that… so he never… never called for that THAT DAY

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Something hit me this morning as I was thinking about the reaction to the Colorado court ruling on Trump, and I thought I'd toss it out here to see your opinions (amongst the standard personal insults and name-calling).

Growing up in the Bay Area, I was a big Oakland Raider fan back in the day. Their reputation was always The Bad Guy, and we just loved that. We loved backing The Bad Guys. And certainly America loves its Anti-Heroes, particularly in our movies and teevee shows. I'll bet all of us can think of a few Bad Guy Anti-Hero movies and characters we've enjoyed, from Pirates of the Caribbean to Scarface to Pulp Fiction.

Anyway, those judges in Colorado did what they figured they had to do. But I expect this Supreme Court to throw it out, and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Trump's popularity increase because of this, when all is said and done.

Thoughts?

How Republicans Are Reacting to Trump’s Colorado Ballot Disqualification

Trump’s fellow candidates, his allies, GOP members of Congress, and right-leaning commentators are lambasting the decision as a Democratic Party attack on democracy.

time.com

I think you were hit by more than that. Most leftists suffer from a brain injury and/or an undeveloped brain. Your OP supports it.

 

[kyzr]

Does the 14th require a conviction in it’s text?

No but it does require adequate "due process".

The CO dissenters said it was inadequate, including the Chief Justice, and the USSC will probably echo that in their 9-0 decision.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

He and the people who have been enabling him.

Yes.
If this is somehow upheld or not addressed by SCOTUS then every member of congresss who aided in this effort should be held ineligible under the 14th as well.

 

[kyzr]

Why would Trump want the NG there?

He STATED that he wanted them there to “protect HIS people”… ya know the insurrectionists. And that was why the Secretary of Defense ignored him.

Why would he NOT want them there once the attack on the Capitol had begun?

Because he knew they’d put an end to it and he didn’t want that… so he never… never called for that THAT DAY

1. Trump wanted to protect his rally from any violence. So if Trump was planning an "insurrection" he wouldn't have requested the NG to keep the peace, huh?

2. The NG would have protected the Capitol alongside the Capitol Police dumbass. That's why Capitol Police Chief Sund requested the NG too.

3. The NG is not on call, like the Fire Department. That's why they're called "weekend warriors". They need to be activated well in advance. A better question is why didn't Mayor Bowser have adequate police there to begin with?

4. Mayor Bowser said she didn't need the NG as requested by Trump and Sund. She said her police could handle it. So where were they?

Underestimating the Threat, DC Mayor Muriel Bowser Requested Unarmed Guards

In this daily series, Newsweek explores the steps that led to the January 6 Capitol Riot.

www.newsweek.com

"On Thursday, December 31, says the current accepted narrative, the District of Columbia mayor rang an alarm about protests at the Joint Session of Congress. In fact, the opposite is true. What the mayor did, was ask for the minimal number of National Guardsmen and women to help out the Metropolitan Police Department, and she warned that those troops should be unarmed and not directly involve themselves in any protests."

DC Mayor Bowser’s Letter Refusing National Guard on January 6

Washington DC Mayor Muriel Bowser sends a letter to the Acting United States Attorney General, Secretary of the Army, and...

fightwithkash.com

"Washington D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser sent a letter to Acting United States Attorney General Jeffery Rosen, Secretary of the Army Ryan D. McCarthy, and Acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller explaining that Capitol Police were ready for the First Amendment activities taking place in the the lead up to the January 6 storming of the Capitol."

 

[Hutch Starskey]

No but it does require adequate "due diligence".

The CO dissenters said it was inadequate, including the Chief Justice, and the USSC will probably echo that in their 9-0 decision.

You meant due process. It’s meaningless at the state level because it’s already settled.
Whatever due process the minority dissented over is also at the state level as it’s a state court. SCOTUS has no jurisdiction to rule on that.
They will either have to find fault with the evidence of insurrection, the 14th or both.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

If the National Guard was activated as Sund and Trump requested there would have been no riot, duh.

Trump could’ve sent them at anytime with a phone call.

 

[kyzr]

Trump could’ve sent them at anytime with a phone call.

Wrong. The weekend warriors need to be activated. They were all home watching things on their TVs.
Bowser could have sent the DC cops in with a phone call.

 

[Lesh]

1. Trump wanted to protect his rally from any violence. So if Trump was planning an "insurrection" he wouldn't have requested the NG to keep the peace, huh?

2. The NG would have protected the Capitol alongside the Capitol Police dumbass. That's why Capitol Police Chief Sund requested the NG too.

3. The NG is not on call, like the Fire Department. That's why they're called "weekend warriors". They need to be activated well in advance. A better question is why didn't Mayor Bowser have adequate police there to begin with?

4. Mayor Bowser said she didn't need the NG as requested by Trump and Sund. She said her police could handle it. So where were they?

Underestimating the Threat, DC Mayor Muriel Bowser Requested Unarmed Guards

In this daily series, Newsweek explores the steps that led to the January 6 Capitol Riot.

www.newsweek.com

"On Thursday, December 31, says the current accepted narrative, the District of Columbia mayor rang an alarm about protests at the Joint Session of Congress. In fact, the opposite is true. What the mayor did, was ask for the minimal number of National Guardsmen and women to help out the Metropolitan Police Department, and she warned that those troops should be unarmed and not directly involve themselves in any protests."

DC Mayor Bowser’s Letter Refusing National Guard on January 6

Washington DC Mayor Muriel Bowser sends a letter to the Acting United States Attorney General, Secretary of the Army, and...

fightwithkash.com

"Washington D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser sent a letter to Acting United States Attorney General Jeffery Rosen, Secretary of the Army Ryan D. McCarthy, and Acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller explaining that Capitol Police were ready for the First Amendment activities taking place in the the lead up to the January 6 storming of the Capitol."

1. He SAID he wanted the NG to protect his insurrectionists

2. Likely would have but that’s NOT why Trump asked for them days prior. On THAT day he refused to call them because they WOULD have protected the Capitol

3. They were ready on Jan 6 just waiting to be called. They were only called late in the day… by PENCE… not Trump

4. Bowser is not in the chain of command of the NG

 

[kyzr]

1. He SAID he wanted the NG to protect his insurrectionists
2. Likely would have but that’s NOT why Trump asked for them days prior. On THAT day he refused to call them because they WOULD have protected the Capitol
3. They were ready on Jan 6 just waiting to be called. They were only called late in the day… by PENCE… not Trump
4. Bowser is not in the chain of command of the NG

1. LIAR. There were no insurrectionists.
2. LIAR. Trump wanted the NG there and Bowser said no, see #4.
3. I didn't see any NG troops quelling the Capitol Riot. I saw an armed DC SWAT Team end the "protest", not the NG.
4. Maybe Bowser isn't now, but she was then. Read her letter.

DC Mayor Bowser’s Letter Refusing National Guard on January 6

Washington DC Mayor Muriel Bowser sends a letter to the Acting United States Attorney General, Secretary of the Army, and...

fightwithkash.com

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Wrong. The weekend warriors need to be activated. They were all home watching things on their TVs.
Bowser could have sent the DC cops in with a phone call.

They were activated. They just weren’t deployed to the Capitol.

DC National Guard commander 'strongly' considered sending troops to Capitol without approval, Jan. 6 report says

The commander of the Washington, DC, National Guard, Major Gen. William Walker, "strongly" considered deploying troops to the US Capitol on the afternoon of January 6, 2021, without approval from his superiors even if it meant he would have to resign the next day, according to the final report...

amp.cnn.com

 

[Harry Dresden]

You missed the civil trial and the two subsequent appeals?

he was on trial in colorado?....

 

[HikerGuy83]

Thoughts?

I've said for some time.

If you left him alone he'd fade away.

But you can't and he isn't.

In fact his election in 2024 (something I didn't dream possible 6 months ago) is looking more and more like a possibility.

Good job !

 

[Kruska]

That's where he learned it. I'm not even kidding. There are a couple of really good articles out there on it.

Not sure - when his wrestling stint (for the dumbest of the dumb) came up - but his human scumbag traits were already clearly obvious some 20? years ago - when this show "The Apprentice" came up.

 

[Mac1958]

I've said for some time.

If you left him alone he'd fade away.

But you can't and he isn't.

In fact his election in 2024 (something I didn't dream possible 6 months ago) is looking more and more like a possibility.

Good job !

Okie dokie!