The American Disgrace: Manipulation, Lies, and Deceit

[IM2]

I guess this doesn't qualify as a bait thread because it criticizes Joe Biden or a Democrat.

 

[JoeB131]

Oh, Twinkie, stop being a drama queen.

From what I'm hearing from the Hur tapes, from what we saw of Biden during his campaigns and as president, and now his cancer diagnosis...

I can only surmise that anyone who voted for him the first time ignored any issues he was presenting at the time, and was fully willing to overlook those issues even as they became more prominent on the night of June 27th, 2024 to vote for him again, had he not been removed from the campaign.

The first time, he was fine.

Frankly, there's nothing on the Hur Tapes that I find all that shocking. The man couldn't remember mundane details about a document he handled 8 years ago.

Now, all that said, depending on how clear his decline is/was, then yes, the people around him should have said something sooner.

I am deeply saddened and angered to know that people would act this way, to allow a group of advisers and handlers, and his garbage wife to parade him about as some competent, healthy leader, when in reality he was a demented, Parkonsonian, cancer-stricken old man who deserved to be treated with better care than he was. This was nothing but abuse. It was a North Korean-style misdirection campaign, for which the left fell for quite easily. It was evil, I saw. For that, I chose to vote for Trump. Well, not for Trump, but against everyone who allowed this to happen.

No evidence he had Parkinson's.
No evidence his cancer was evident when he was in office.
No evidence he wasn't getting far better care than most of us have.

Cancer can take you out that fast. My late father was diagnosed with lung cancer in July 1981, and he died in Ocotober. That's how fast cancer can spread.

He was manipulated and steered about, a listless man on his own. I am appalled that people would stoop this low to maintain power over our government and over the American people, and I have lost some, if not all, respect for many people who claim to be people of God, upstanding people, who yet were willing to ignore the American disgrace, the utter atrocity unfolding in the White House.

Or.... they just really thought he was the best alternative to Trump, who is a truly evil piece of shit.

I would make the comparison to Franklin Roosevelt's fourth run for the presidency. People around him knew he wasn't well, and manuevered to make sure that they had an acceptable vice-president.

I have lost all faith in humanity. Not after what I've seen. I will hug my grandmother even more now, knowing that I would have never and never will use her that way.

I lost my faith when this country elected Trump after he killed a million Americans last time because they hate brown people more than they love their own children

But you do you, man.

 

[GLASNOST]

From what I'm hearing from the Hur tapes, from what we saw of Biden during his campaigns and as president, and now his cancer diagnosis...

I can only surmise that anyone who voted for him the first time ignored any issues he was presenting at the time, and was fully willing to overlook those issues even as they became more prominent on the night of June 27th, 2024 to vote for him again, had he not been removed from the campaign.

I am deeply saddened and angered to know that people would act this way, to allow a group of advisers and handlers, and his garbage wife to parade him about as some competent, healthy leader, when in reality he was a demented, Parkonsonian, cancer-stricken old man who deserved to be treated with better care than he was. This was nothing but abuse. It was a North Korean-style misdirection campaign, for which the left fell for quite easily. It was evil, I saw. For that, I chose to vote for Trump. Well, not for Trump, but against everyone who allowed this to happen.

He was manipulated and steered about, a listless man on his own. I am appalled that people would stoop this low to maintain power over our government and over the American people, and I have lost some, if not all, respect for many people who claim to be people of God, upstanding people, who yet were willing to ignore the American disgrace, the utter atrocity unfolding in the White House.

I have lost all faith in humanity. Not after what I've seen. I will hug my grandmother even more now, knowing that I would have never and never will use her that way.

Allow me to highlight the most important bits:

* a group of advisers and handlers, and his garbage wife to parade him about as some competent, healthy leader ...

* he was a demented, Parkonsonian, cancer-stricken old man ...

* deserved to be treated with better care than he was ...

* This was nothing but abuse ...

* a North Korean-style misdirection campaign ...

* He was manipulated and steered about ...

* a listless man on his own ...

* people who claim to be people of God, upstanding people, who yet were willing to ignore the American disgrace .....

 

[JoeB131]

Allow me to highlight the most important bits:

* a group of advisers and handlers, and his garbage wife to parade him about as some competent, healthy leader ...

* he was a demented, Parkonsonian, cancer-stricken old man ...

* deserved to be treated with better care than he was ...

* This was nothing but abuse ...

* a North Korean-style misdirection campaign ...

* He was manipulated and steered about ...

* a listless man on his own ...

* people who claim to be people of God, upstanding people, who yet were willing to ignore the American disgrace .....

Actually, none of those are important or good points.

In my view, both Trump and Biden are too old to serve. We should probably set an upper age limit of 70 for Federal Office.

The thing about getting old just means that you are less good at hiding your character.

Biden is a well meaning guy who speaks badly.

Trump is a racist twatnoodle who suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder (Or what we used to call "Megalomania" when I was younger.)

 

[MagicMike]

Just STFU and go back to your sandbox little boy.

This is all about Biden, and what his handlers did to him and a willing media to cover it up. Right along the lines of elder abuse in the worse way possible.

We are rapidly approaching the same point with Donald Trump.
His dementia is worsening rapidly. He can barely put two coherent sentences together at once anymore and he's babbling like a loon most of the time. Not to mention the increasing paranoia.
I'm sure glad his cultists are such big advocates for the 25th Amendment so we can avoid the mistakes that were made with Biden this time around.

 

[tahuyaman]

I'm not derailing anything.

It's stupid to claim that Biden was incompetent when Trump is 100 times worse on the incompetency scale.

As far as performance in office and results are concerned, Biden had no successes to cite in order to claim he was competent.

His foreign policy was a complete failure. He had no domestic policy successes.

Biden is generally considered by objective observers to be one of the most incompetent president’s in U.S. history.

While people can argue that Trump's methods are questionable, he gets results. He’s bringing trading partners, to include China to the bargaining table. He’s getting Europe to pony up more for their defense. He created and is building upping the Abraham Accords. So called Middle East experts claimed that was impossible.

He’s restoring our border security and removing criminal illegal aliens from our communities.

Biden accomplished nothing positive. If there was any Biden success, it was in an area where he did nothing.

 

[GLASNOST]

The Hur tape coverup is just the latest episode in ...

Yes, in what?

... a 10 year shit show put on by the most corrupt, anti-American Party in American history, the Democrats.

Not exactly. The "corrupt shit show" (as you call it) has been going on since the end of WW II. Illegal wars & invasions, military & political coups, assassinations ..... you name it ....... has been the American standard. You insinuate it's the Democrats who are the villains but it's both parties at one time or another. You also call it "anti-American" and yeah, that's true, but not in the way you mean it. If you consider the foundation of American Democracy, freedom of speech, (and all of that) important then I have to agree with you that it is "anti-American". But then you've missed the point. Your gripe shouldn't be limited to the Democratic Party. Your enemy (the enemy) is the MIC which manipulates both American parties equally. OK, so it's the Democratic party during the last "10 years" who's responsible for the "shit showing" (as you say) but before that? Was the WMD liar, illegal invasion artist, water-boarding torture advocate, Bush Baby Junior a Democratic? No, I don't think so.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

At least Biden didn't wreck the economy.

Like the mentally ill old man Donald Trump is about to do with his stupid fucking tariffs.

Biden wasn't calling the shots

 

[WelfareQueen]

At least Biden didn't wreck the economy.

Like the mentally ill old man Donald Trump is about to do with his stupid fucking tariffs.

Inflation is at a 4 year low shit-for-brains.

 

[GLASNOST]

It's stupid to claim that Biden was incompetent when Trump is 100 times worse on the incompetency scale.

Go wash your mouth out with soap.

 

[shockedcanadian]

From what I'm hearing from the Hur tapes, from what we saw of Biden during his campaigns and as president, and now his cancer diagnosis...

I can only surmise that anyone who voted for him the first time ignored any issues he was presenting at the time, and was fully willing to overlook those issues even as they became more prominent on the night of June 27th, 2024 to vote for him again, had he not been removed from the campaign.

I am deeply saddened and angered to know that people would act this way, to allow a group of advisers and handlers, and his garbage wife to parade him about as some competent, healthy leader, when in reality he was a demented, Parkonsonian, cancer-stricken old man who deserved to be treated with better care than he was. This was nothing but abuse. It was a North Korean-style misdirection campaign, for which the left fell for quite easily. It was evil, I saw. For that, I chose to vote for Trump. Well, not for Trump, but against everyone who allowed this to happen.

He was manipulated and steered about, a listless man on his own. I am appalled that people would stoop this low to maintain power over our government and over the American people, and I have lost some, if not all, respect for many people who claim to be people of God, upstanding people, who yet were willing to ignore the American disgrace, the utter atrocity unfolding in the White House.

I have lost all faith in humanity. Not after what I've seen. I will hug my grandmother even more now, knowing that I would have never and never will use her that way.

I warned before and after he won thar there would be wars and an increasingly emboldened world for those who are Americas enemies. I didn't expect it to be Ukraine and israel that was attacked but nonetheless, when you don't have strong global leadership to lead America, not simply what amounts to a global figurehead; the mice will play. Some of these mice are near peer adversaries to America.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

From what I'm hearing from the Hur tapes, from what we saw of Biden during his campaigns and as president, and now his cancer diagnosis...

I can only surmise that anyone who voted for him the first time ignored any issues he was presenting at the time, and was fully willing to overlook those issues even as they became more prominent on the night of June 27th, 2024 to vote for him again, had he not been removed from the campaign.

I am deeply saddened and angered to know that people would act this way, to allow a group of advisers and handlers, and his garbage wife to parade him about as some competent, healthy leader, when in reality he was a demented, Parkonsonian, cancer-stricken old man who deserved to be treated with better care than he was. This was nothing but abuse. It was a North Korean-style misdirection campaign, for which the left fell for quite easily. It was evil, I saw. For that, I chose to vote for Trump. Well, not for Trump, but against everyone who allowed this to happen.

He was manipulated and steered about, a listless man on his own. I am appalled that people would stoop this low to maintain power over our government and over the American people, and I have lost some, if not all, respect for many people who claim to be people of God, upstanding people, who yet were willing to ignore the American disgrace, the utter atrocity unfolding in the White House.

I have lost all faith in humanity. Not after what I've seen. I will hug my grandmother even more now, knowing that I would have never and never will use her that way.

Horseshit.

 

[theHawk]

At least Biden didn't wreck the economy.

Like the mentally ill old man Donald Trump is about to do with his stupid fucking tariffs.

^^ I love it when these guys cope.

 

[MisterBeale]

Bump

While I agree with your OP, I see no evidence that the current administration is really all that different.

It has lied to us, repeatedly. And their follows believe their shit lies too.

I mean, look at this nonsense;



And I guarantee you, there are folks on this forum who will believe and defend this blatant propaganda.

 

[struth]

48 straight months of job growth.

A record stock market.

Biden's handlers did quite well!!

At making a majority of the country worse off

 

[TemplarKormac]

While I agree with your OP, I see no evidence that the current administration is really all that different.

It has lied to us, repeatedly. And their follows believe their shit lies too.

I mean, look at this nonsense;



And I guarantee you, there are folks on this forum who will believe and defend this blatant propaganda.

In truth, while this administration lies, at least it is not of a level to stoop to such treachery as to manipulate the elderly/infirm for the sake of maintaining power.

But stooping to the level I've seen with the Biden Administration is an atrocity I cannot and will not tolerate. Lies are one thing, but this level of depravity renders the simplest lie an absolute truth.

However, I will not attempt to justify the behavior of this current administration either.

 

[The Duke]

Bump

This is the worst fraud ever perpetrated on the American People, and they did it for years.
I want arrests. I want prosecutions for politicians violating their oaths.

 

[TemplarKormac]

This is the worst fraud ever perpetrated on the American People, and they did it for years.
I want arrests. I want prosecutions for politicians violating their oaths.

That could happen, but as you can recall, he pardoned many people who could be seen as the master manipulators.

 

[The Duke]

Actually, none of those are important or good points.

In my view,

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[TemplarKormac]

Sigh. I never thought I would live to see this kind of corruption in my government...