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How about NATO step the hell up then?
Some here choose not to know, so you have to point it out to the slower learners.This is glaringly obvious.
It should not have to be said.
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How about NATO step the hell up then?
Some here choose not to know, so you have to point it out to the slower learners.This is glaringly obvious.
It should not have to be said.
Moron, Russia has clearly been the agressor in this confrontation, not POTUS.Xiden needs a war to fix the economy he broke.
What's surprising is that he's waited this long.
Or maybe he just forgot?
of cos not, isolationists represent a small minority , gay-bears, freaks, useful idiots etc. you know Moscow´s package
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That is impossible to read. if you zoom in close enough to try to read the micro print, it becomes too pixelated to make out the words.
Russians are Capitalist nowadays. You know, like what America suppose to be.
All of Europe is on board:Biden's hands are tied, and Putin knows it. Biden isn't going to start WWIII, and not all of Europe is on board the strongest sanctions.
Not on removing Russia from the SWIFT system. This would pretty much wreck Russia, but some European countries might be hurt, too, and they're not on board.All of Europe is on board:
"Military agression against Ukraine that endangers its territorial integrity and sovereignty will result in hard reactions and sanctions that we have carefully prepared and that we can put into effect immediately, together with our allies in Europe and NATO," Germany's Scholz said.
Germany's Scholz warns Russia of immediate sanctions if Ukraine attacked
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Sunday warned Russia of immediate sanctions and "hard reactions" if it attacks Ukraine, maintaining a tough tone ahead of a meeting this week with Russian President Vladimir Putin.www.reuters.com
All of Europe is on board:
"Military agression against Ukraine that endangers its territorial integrity and sovereignty will result in hard reactions and sanctions that we have carefully prepared and that we can put into effect immediately, together with our allies in Europe and NATO," Germany's Scholz said.
Germany's Scholz warns Russia of immediate sanctions if Ukraine attacked
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Sunday warned Russia of immediate sanctions and "hard reactions" if it attacks Ukraine, maintaining a tough tone ahead of a meeting this week with Russian President Vladimir Putin.www.reuters.com
It's not all or nothing. SWIFT access can be retained while fiancial dealings with Russia shrivel over time to nothing. And SWIFT is far from many economic levers to be pulled against Russia and it's oligarchs.Not on removing Russia from the SWIFT system. This would pretty much wreck Russia, but some European countries might be hurt, too, and they're not on board.
Explainer: Europe's banks fear payment system could be casualty of Russia-Ukraine crisis
Amid fears of a Russian invasion of Ukraine, Italy's UniCredit has backed out of a potential acquisition in Russia and Austria's Raiffeisen Bank International has set aside risk provisions for possible sanctions on Russia.www.reuters.com
Hopefully whatever is planned would be enough to make them pay, but surely Putin has a pretty good idea what's coming. He's made the calculation that it won't be enough. Either he has a reaction ready, or he's delusional. He doesn't seem delusional.It's not all or nothing. SWIFT access can be retained while fiancial dealings with Russia shrivel over time to nothing. And SWIFT is far from many economic levers to be pulled against Russia and it's oligarchs.
Nobody knows what calculations he's got going on, for all we know he is just putting some scare into Ukraine while pumping up oil prices so his budget sheet looks better.Hopefully whatever is planned would be enough to make them pay, but surely Putin has a pretty good idea what's coming. He's made the calculation that it won't be enough. Either he has a reaction ready, or he's delusional. He doesn't seem delusional.
Then why did Biden give Putin the control over their energy? We are getting bombarded on our own border and our energy prices. We need to stay out of it.Implications for all of Europe might be severe in short term or long term. We cannot remain silent on threats that can effect NATO. Europe is important to us and world stability, strategically and economically.