According the the right wing nutters and the wanting a civil war nutters, we are on the verge of overthrowing the hated government.
I just can't figure out what the fuk is taking you nutters so long.
According to the nutters right here, (see about 50 threads) 53% of Americans are living the high life off the largess of the Federal Government. They ain't going to war.
About 3% of the population have NEVER had it so good with tremendous income gains and very favorable tax treatment. They ain't going to war.
Those of us in the middle group who are baby boomers. We would just like see our kids grow up and maybe we could retire. War is not an option.
So what are we down to? A handful of wannabe soldiers who think they are such baddasses that they can take on the Federal government in some sort of low intensity combat situation.
All I want to know" what the fuk is taking you so long Missourian and will your "war" be televised? I want to watch you all get blown away. Traitor.
And you and your kind are traitors. Our founders put a system in place that would allow grievances against the government to be addressed with out civil war. It's called the ballot box. It is no ones fault but ours that we continue to elect assholes for our reps. We get what we deserve by what we elect.
But to want a civil war makes you a traitor. All of your kind are traitors.
We live in a plutocracy. Deal with it without this stupid threat of violence. Because it won't be the plutocrats doing the dying. It will be people like you and me.
I think you misunderstand the scenario. Let's lay it out simply so you aren't so hateful, after all, you and Missourian are on the same side. In fact, you should thank him, sounds like he will be the first in the trenches defending your freedom when our backs are against the wall. It goes down something like this. This is the opening gambit of this next "War." Think of it more as a . . . revolutionary war, than a civil war if you like. The Federal Government will more likely use more private contractors, foreign troops and UN troops than it will use our own troops. There is a possibility it will have some units and generals loyal to the Federal government, but after the shit that went down in Bengazi? It looks like the Military's patience is growing very thin with the civilian government. It's support of the civilian government probably grows weaker each passing month. It really believes the real threat is in China.
So, let's get an idea of how this war might start, what would tip it off, shall we?
This is a good primer. I have been stunned that we have been printing between $40 and $85 billion each month (QE4 indefinite), just throwing it into the world's economy, willy nilly, not backed by anything, gonna have to be paid off by our great grand children, and China hasn't said word one. We've been doing it since last December. Or maybe China has said something, and our lap dog press just hasn't told us, or D.C. hasn't told them. How would I know? I don't trust the press as far as I can spit. NONE of the them.
Essentially, the pressure cooking ratchets up each month nothing is done. Instinctively, I think we ALL feel it. But our idiot leaders, on both sides, have done nothing. Queue video.
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So after all this goes down, I'm sure we can all agree, it is a good thing that having National Guard troops on the Streets to keep order is a good thing. But does it end there? If it does, fine. But in all likelihood, it does not. There have been, since the seventies, several executive orders passed, in order to prepare for just such a day.
Executive Order #10990: Allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
Executive Order #10995: Seizure of all communications media in the United States.
Executive Order #10997: Seizure of all electric power fuels and minerals, public and private.
Executive Order #10998: Allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.
Executive Order #10999: Seizure of all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control of highways, seaports and waterways.
Executive Order #11000: Seizure of all American people for work forces under federal supervision including the splitting of families if the government finds it necessary.
Executive Order #11001: Seizure of all health, education and welfare facilities, public and private.
Executive Order #11002: Empowered the postmaster general to register all men, women and children in the U.S.
Executive Order #11003: Seizure of all airports and aircraft.
Executive Order #11004: Seizure of all housing and finance authorities to establish Forced Relocation Designated areas to be abandoned as "unsafe."
Executive Order #11005: Seizure of all railroads, inland waterways and storage facilities, public and private.
Executive Order #12919: Signed June 3, 1994, by President Clinton. Encompasses all the above executive orders.
Executive Order 11921 - allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis."
National Security Act of 1947
Allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities.
1950 Defense Production Act
Gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy.
International Emergency Economic Powers Act
Enables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national. These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979.
So when you go get what is left of what little worthless assets you have left after the "too big to fails" have looted the system after the financial system has collapsed, what do you have left? Nothing. And gas will no longer be available. Food? Go to the woods a forage. And soon after, they shut down the internet. And then they cancel the elections. And then they decide, unilaterally, what comes next. Anyone who doesn't like it? They disappear. That's called taxation with out representation. That is no longer America.
And your response is the bile, hatred and anger?
Now, maybe you're right, maybe our leaders keep level heads. Maybe all they do is send out the national guard to keep order in the cities. But after the shit they pulled after the 9/11 attacks. After that crap they passed with the NDAA, the Patriot ACT, putting those completely unnecessary TSA thugs in airports, going WAY overboard after the Boston Bombing, etc. What do you think these incompetent bureaucrats are likely to do? They got us into this mess, do you honestly think they care about our "freedoms?"
Or maybe, just maybe, they meant to get us to this point? Maybe the whole point WAS to get to a point where they could get a global government with a one world currency? After all, any intelligent elite knows, never let a good crises go to waste.
Of course. . . that's just one scenario.