The 2015 Israeli legislative (Knesset) election thread

[aris2chat]

And what does that mean, PM Bibi is back in.

We'll have to wait and see who succeeds in creating a coalition.

first to see who rivlin asks to try and form a government.

 

[BullKurtz]

Seems the exit polls are saying Bibi's Likud party is either winning or is tied with the Labor party in today's national elections. Barry's thugs pulled every Chicago trick in the book to unseat him, including funneling US taxpayer dollars into the opposition. A Congressional investigation will surely show the WH tried to sandbag the Israeli leader and FAILED!

20.37 The mood in Likud headquarters in the Tel Aviv Exhibition Grounds is jubilant in the aftermath of the publication of the exit polls. The audience is cheering, “Bibi, Bibi," writes Robert Tait.

That said, it is not certain at this point that Benjamin Netanyahu is necessarily going to be the next prime minister. Much will depend on Moshe Kahlon’s decision.

The initial response in the Labour Party headquarters was one of stunned silence, particularly in response to Channel Two’s exit poll, which showed the Likud with a slight lead.

 

[aris2chat]

How reliable is Channel 2 there? They have the Likud winning (unofficially) 28-27.

It's all exit polling. None of them are particularly reliable.

several media are already calling likud the victor

 

[Osomir]

Interesting - so who ever can finagle a majority through a coalition is the winner...must make for some strange bedmates at times.

Ah, the pearls of acute observation from a senior mod of a political forum.

Good Lord!

You have a problem?

Sometimes comments must be made on observations like these, and I quote Coyote, Interesting - so who ever can finagle a majority through a coalition is the winner...must make for some strange bedmates at times.

Now, this is from a senior mod on a political forum. I find it absurd even that asked.

Why would anyone (mods included) be expected to be that well versed in every topic related to politics let alone international affairs? We all have our areas.

 

[aris2chat]

So....how does building a coalition work - is it the winner who has to try to build it or can any of the groups try to form coalitions to build a majority?

The leading parties try to assemble a coalition, but they can aso fail in doing so. That what happened with Tzipi Livni years ago. She won by voted, but couldn't assemble a coalition, so Bibi rose as PM with the Likud.

Interesting - so who ever can finagle a majority through a coalition is the winner...must make for some strange bedmates at times.

back scratching

 

[gallantwarrior]

Probably because nobody there can claim to be voting for someone who looks "just like them" without paying any attention to that person's convictions and views. Even Arabs living in Israel know that they are protected by a strong government. The stupid ones all moved to Palestine and voted for Hamas.

 

[TemplarKormac]

How reliable is Channel 2 there? They have the Likud winning (unofficially) 28-27.

It's all exit polling. None of them are particularly reliable.

several media are already calling likud the victor

Can you provide links to that end?

 

[Mac1958]

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Is everyone sure that last-minute pledge against a Palestinian state was such a great idea in the big picture?

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[Meathead]

Interesting - so who ever can finagle a majority through a coalition is the winner...must make for some strange bedmates at times.

Ah, the pearls of acute observation from a senior mod of a political forum.

Good Lord!

You have a problem?

Sometimes comments must be made on observations like these, and I quote Coyote, Interesting - so who ever can finagle a majority through a coalition is the winner...must make for some strange bedmates at times.

Now, this is from a senior mod on a political forum. I find it absurd even that asked.

Why would anyone (mods included) be expected to be that well versed in every topic related to politics let alone international affairs? We all have our areas.

Because I would think coalition governments would not be beyond the realm of knowledge of most posters on any political forum. It shouldn't be a "romper room" for the rank-and-file, let alone mods and senior mods.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

In Israel doesn't go by colors, what you can find is inner polls of parties which are not always credible, and you at times can find perscentage by cities and towns if you really follow.

To answer your second question, the ones who put emphasis on the inner issues (mostly economics and social issues) are in the Zionist Union and Meretz.

Also, by what it seems, the voting for Meretz this time around are low. We still have hours to go, but they're not overjoyed in Meretz.

What are the main domestic issues for Israel right now?

Mainly economics, specifically housing.

What are the other economic issues?

Out of curiosity - there had been a proposed "rotation" government at one time. How does that work in reality? Has that been done before? Your elections are much more interesting (and confusing) then our rigidly 2-party system.

LOL, yeah, it's confusing. In theory, it supposed to be 2 years, 2 years. But I can't recall when it was last time this thing worked, maybe when I was young and I don't remember. But yesterday Livni said that if it's a problem for voters, she'll give up her round. reactions were mixed concerning that statement. Some called it "selfless" and "heroic", other thought it was their party grasping at straws, desparate to bring voters.

Or maybe, just pragmatism. On the way to work. I love tapatalk !

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[Penelope]

Obama never did try to sabotage the election. Bibi doesn't not intimidate Pres. Obama. If Bibi wins its by the skin of his teeth. He should realize that, that half the people didn't want him.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

stats sounds like it works better than statin(mangled).

And I'm sober!

Hallelujah! Now, how many fingers am I holding up?

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Better be none. You're driving. Remember?

 

[aris2chat]

So....how does building a coalition work - is it the winner who has to try to build it or can any of the groups try to form coalitions to build a majority?

The leading parties try to assemble a coalition, but they can aso fail in doing so. That what happened with Tzipi Livni years ago. She won by voted, but couldn't assemble a coalition, so Bibi rose as PM with the Likud.

It is all down to what concessions the leading party is prepared to offer the lower ranked parties, and then on what the lower ranked parties will accept. We in the UK face a similar situation in May when we hold our national elections, already the major parties are playing footsy with the minor ones to garner support. Nothing is settled until the results are in and the numbers are worked out. Labour are talking with the SNP because the SNP look like taking all the votes in Scotland, then the SNP will push for independence before the end of the next parliament. The Tories are looking at a possible marriage of lib dems or UKIP as the next government. Too many fingers in the pie will not be good for anyone.

I can see the advantages and disadvantages. We essentially have two parties. There are other small parties but they rarely perform well outside of local or state elections. It's pretty much Dem or Pub and both parties have to try to appeal to both their base and a broader selection that they end up really not representing many of us imo.

Do you have any idea how many parties there are in the US?

Middle east countries have a wide spread that want to be represented. Twenty plus religions and a few dozen political parties is not uncommon.
In the US, most people I know like a, b, c from party 1 and e, f, g from party 2 and d from yet another. Total agreement of all points on a platform or of a candidate is rare. I think most just pick the less of evils or close their eye cross their fingers and stick a pin to pick.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Interesting - so who ever can finagle a majority through a coalition is the winner...must make for some strange bedmates at times.

Ah, the pearls of acute observation from a senior mod of a political forum.

Good Lord!

You have a problem?

Sometimes comments must be made on observations like these, and I quote Coyote, Interesting - so who ever can finagle a majority through a coalition is the winner...must make for some strange bedmates at times.

Now, this is from a senior mod on a political forum. I find it absurd even that asked.

Why would anyone (mods included) be expected to be that well versed in every topic related to politics let alone international affairs? We all have our areas.

Because I would think coalition governments would not be beyond the realm of knowledge of most posters on any political forum. It shouldn't be a "romper room" for the rank-and-file, let alone mods and senior mods.

Nobody knows everything man. Lighten up there's nothing wrong with learning new things.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Bibi interfered in our politics with congressional help, our senators interfered with Iran, and you are bitching BHO is kicking you in the balls?

 

[Rocko]

The lefty butthurt is going to be epic on this one.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Obama never did try to sabotage the election. Bibi doesn't not intimidate Pres. Obama. If Bibi wins its by the skin of his teeth. He should realize that, that half the people didn't want him.

A little more than 7 of 10 don't want him. He is less popular in Israel than our GOP senate is here.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Interesting - so who ever can finagle a majority through a coalition is the winner...must make for some strange bedmates at times.

Ah, the pearls of acute observation from a senior mod of a political forum.

Good Lord!

You have a problem?

Sometimes comments must be made on observations like these, and I quote Coyote, Interesting - so who ever can finagle a majority through a coalition is the winner...must make for some strange bedmates at times.

Now, this is from a senior mod on a political forum. I find it absurd even that asked.

Why would anyone (mods included) be expected to be that well versed in every topic related to politics let alone international affairs? We all have our areas.

Because I would think coalition governments would not be beyond the realm of knowledge of most posters on any political forum. It shouldn't be a "romper room" for the rank-and-file, let alone mods and senior mods.

Since this is the "USMessageboard", and we don't have a Parliamentary government here in the US, and have never had a "coalition government", I would guess that a majority of posters here don't fully understand how it works.

 

[BullKurtz]

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Is everyone sure that last-minute pledge against a Palestinian state was such a great idea in the big picture?

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Yes, that swung the votes of the ultra-conservative groups to him.

 

[August West]

Barry who? Manilow I presume. Goldwater is dead.