That time President Carter did the same thing...

[TemplarKormac]

So why all the uproar?

The "uproar" is due to the fact that Trump essentially banned students and families from those countries from entering the country - it has nothing to do with refugees.

What part of his EO says that?

All of it.

That's not a sufficient answer.

Actually, it is.

Have you read the EO?

Do you understand it?

Uh yeah, in fact I did read it.

Such an unspecific answer is unsatisfactory.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The "uproar" is due to the fact that Trump essentially banned students and families from those countries from entering the country - it has nothing to do with refugees.

What part of his EO says that?

All of it.

That's not a sufficient answer.

Actually, it is.

Have you read the EO?

Do you understand it?

Uh yeah, in fact I did read it.

Such in unspecific answer is unsatisfactory.

It's not an "unspecific" answer - it's the whole point of the EO.

The EO prevents the issuance of travel visas to citizens of the countries on the list. That's its whole point.

Refugees aren't given travel visas, they're given green cards.

Visas are for tourists, contract workers and students.

 

[Little-Acorn]

And I'm wondering, what circumstances were different between when Carter issued his order then, to now, when Trump issued his?

The Iranians had taken Americans hostage.

The present middle eastern terrorists merely kill them.

 

[TemplarKormac]

What part of his EO says that?

All of it.

That's not a sufficient answer.

Actually, it is.

Have you read the EO?

Do you understand it?

Uh yeah, in fact I did read it.

Such in unspecific answer is unsatisfactory.

It's not an "unspecific" answer - it's the whole point of the EO.

The EO prevents the issuance of travel visas to citizens of the countries on the list. That's its whole point.

Refugees aren't given travel visas, they're given green cards.

Visas are for tourists, contract workers and students.

So, what of Section 5?

The EO addresses refugees quite prominently. So if you think the EO doesn't address the difference...

 

[buckeye45_73]

The Iranians were holding the entire staff off the US Embassy hostage in Tehran. That's what different. And it only involved the citizens of one country, and it wasn't based on religion.

So its ok under the right circumstances

So there is no principal, we're just negotiating price?