Thanks Obamacare!

[rightwinger]

Well the New Year is here and I am now able to put my 23 yr old son back on my health insurance plan. Saves us $1800 a year in premiums

Those with pre-existing conditions and who are over their lifetime cap must be happy too

The rest of get to pay the 1800 dollars it saves you per year. Yay!

No you don't

It is in my employer provided plan through a private insurance company.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Glad to have a government that looks out for working americans!

To the conservatives,

Spending $2 Trillion on overseas wars is......PATRIOTISM
Spending $2 Trillion to help the American people is......SOCIALISM

Glad to have a government that looks out for working americans!

Last time I checked the working American doesn't need nor does it want Medicaid, food stamps, general assistance. Only moochers do.

I am afraid you are quite wrong. Millions of hard working Americans still struggle in this economy. They must choose between spending their hard earned wages on rent, utility bills, medical bills, food and transportation.

Many of these hard working families need assistance with healthcare, food and rent subsidies


Too bad the GOP considers them to be moochers while they give tax cuts to their millionaire buddies

Yell I've seen those hard working Americans, this past Christmas, beggeing for an extention on their water bill while talking on the newest wireless phone making an appointment to the beautian. getting in to that new shiny car, with the in box new flat screen tv in the back yep thats the hard working American for you.

 

[WillowTree]

Well the New Year is here and I am now able to put my 23 yr old son back on my health insurance plan. Saves us $1800 a year in premiums

Those with pre-existing conditions and who are over their lifetime cap must be happy too

The rest of get to pay the 1800 dollars it saves you per year. Yay!

No you don't

It is in my employer provided plan.

If it saves you, then it costs us. Most folks now will pay increased insurance premiums. Yay!

 

[Stephanie]

Its great to see Obamacare providing real benefits for real Americans

More needs to be done to provide affordable heathcare to all Americans, but this is a great start

oh yeah, Us working stiffs need to "do more" to take care of those poor souls who can't go out and pay for THEIR OWN HEALTHCARE.

 

[Cuyo]

Its great to see Obamacare providing real benefits for real Americans

More needs to be done to provide affordable heathcare to all Americans, but this is a great start

oh yeah, Us working stiffs need to "do more" to take care of those poor souls who can't go out and pay for THEIR OWN HEALTHCARE.

Speak up, speak up, speak up.

You've got 'Obamacare' Nailed and we're all enjoying the education.

Speak up. Lay some more wisdom on us.

Just genius.

 

[finebead]

The problem is that after WWII, the US decided business would provide workers with their health insurance benefits, but business began to more and more, welch on the agreement. They quit providing health insurance to their workers in larger numbers, so that in 2007 only 61% of small businesses provided health ins. benefit to their workers. That is NOT a national health insurance system that is effective.

Updated 12/13/2007

By Julie Appleby, USA TODAY
Fewer small employers offered health insurance this year, despite the widespread availability of new, lower-cost high-deductible insurance plans, a survey released today by benefit firm Mercer shows.

Advocates of the high-deductible plans touted them as one solution to the growing number of uninsured, expecting the plans to appeal to small employers, who would continue to offer health insurance as a result.

BAD TREND: Employers pull back on health coverage

"That's not happening," says Blaine Bos, a Mercer partner and one of the study authors. "In fact, the reverse is happening."

The study of nearly 3,000 employers found that the percentage of employers with 200 workers or fewer offering any kind of health insurance fell to 61% this year from 63% in 2006.

That drop came even as the cost of high-deductible plans with tax-free savings accounts averaged $5,970 per worker per year. That was $700 less than a comparable plan without a savings account and far lower than the $7,120 for the average HMO, the study says.

Fewer small firms offer health insurance - USATODAY.com

 

[Oddball]

The problem is that after WWII, the US decided business would provide workers with their health insurance benefits, but business began to more and more, welch on the agreement. They quit providing health insurance to their workers in larger numbers, so that in 2007 only 61% of small businesses provided health ins. benefit to their workers. That is NOT a national health insurance system that is effective.

Updated 12/13/2007

By Julie Appleby, USA TODAY
Fewer small employers offered health insurance this year, despite the widespread availability of new, lower-cost high-deductible insurance plans, a survey released today by benefit firm Mercer shows.

Advocates of the high-deductible plans touted them as one solution to the growing number of uninsured, expecting the plans to appeal to small employers, who would continue to offer health insurance as a result.

BAD TREND: Employers pull back on health coverage

"That's not happening," says Blaine Bos, a Mercer partner and one of the study authors. "In fact, the reverse is happening."

The study of nearly 3,000 employers found that the percentage of employers with 200 workers or fewer offering any kind of health insurance fell to 61% this year from 63% in 2006.

That drop came even as the cost of high-deductible plans with tax-free savings accounts averaged $5,970 per worker per year. That was $700 less than a comparable plan without a savings account and far lower than the $7,120 for the average HMO, the study says.

Fewer small firms offer health insurance - USATODAY.com

Offering medical benefits was how employers got around FDR's stupid wage controls. Little wonder that when said controls are eliminated, that things returned to the way they were in many cases.

Here's a revolutionary idea....Pay for your own damned insurance.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Last time I checked the working American doesn't need nor does it want Medicaid, food stamps, general assistance. Only moochers do.

I am afraid you are quite wrong. Millions of hard working Americans still struggle in this economy. They must choose between spending their hard earned wages on rent, utility bills, medical bills, food and transportation.

Many of these hard working families need assistance with healthcare, food and rent subsidies


Too bad the GOP considers them to be moochers while they give tax cuts to their millionaire buddies

Yell I've seen those hard working Americans, this past Christmas, beggeing for an extention on their water bill while talking on the newest wireless phone making an appointment to the beautian. getting in to that new shiny car, with the in box new flat screen tv in the back yep thats the hard working American for you.

I don't care if it is my post it's worth repeating

 

[Stephanie]

And how bout that name for this monstrosity. OBAMACARE.

ain't that Obama just grand, he gonna take CARE of us all.

 

[Greenbeard]

And how bout that name for this monstrosity. OBAMACARE.

ain't that Obama just grand, he gonna take CARE of us all.

You understand that's the right's branding of it, don't you? It has a real name that has nothing to do with Obama, you just don't use it.

 

[jillian]

And how bout that name for this monstrosity. OBAMACARE.

ain't that Obama just grand, he gonna take CARE of us all.

You understand that's the right's branding of it, don't you? It has a real name that has nothing to do with Obama, you just don't use it.

isn't that what rightwingnut propagandists do?

 

[Stephanie]

And how bout that name for this monstrosity. OBAMACARE.

ain't that Obama just grand, he gonna take CARE of us all.

You understand that's the right's branding of it, don't you? It has a real name that has nothing to do with Obama, you just don't use it.

LOL, I didn't start the thread.

 

[rightwinger]

And how bout that name for this monstrosity. OBAMACARE.

ain't that Obama just grand, he gonna take CARE of us all.

Yes.....it is good to have someone who cares about his fellow Americans

Imagine wanting all Americans to have affordable Healthcare?

What a concept!

 

[Stephanie]

And how bout that name for this monstrosity. OBAMACARE.

ain't that Obama just grand, he gonna take CARE of us all.

Yes.....it is good to have someone who cares about his fellow Americans

Imagine wanting all Americans to have affordable Healthcare?

What a concept!

LOL, if HE CARED so much about us, he would "PAY" for our health care out of his OWN pocket.

 

[rightwinger]

I am afraid you are quite wrong. Millions of hard working Americans still struggle in this economy. They must choose between spending their hard earned wages on rent, utility bills, medical bills, food and transportation.

Many of these hard working families need assistance with healthcare, food and rent subsidies


Too bad the GOP considers them to be moochers while they give tax cuts to their millionaire buddies

Yell I've seen those hard working Americans, this past Christmas, beggeing for an extention on their water bill while talking on the newest wireless phone making an appointment to the beautian. getting in to that new shiny car, with the in box new flat screen tv in the back yep thats the hard working American for you.

I don't care if it is my post it's worth repeating

It is worth repeating to show you are completely clueless regarding the economic conditions in this country.

Replaying the "poor people drive Cadilacs and eat Filet Mignon" rightwing myth proves it

 

[rightwinger]

Too bad the GOP considers them to be moochers while they give tax cuts to their millionaire buddies

When it comes specifically to kids in their early to mid-20s, I'll give the GOP proper credit--they like the idea of extending dependent coverage and included it in their proposals. It's just segments of their nutjob base that has the sort of kneejerk reaction on display in this thread.

Yea...They like the idea but voted against it

 

[jillian]

Here's a revolutionary idea....Pay for your own damned insurance.

spoken like someone who never had to pay $2,100 a month for coverage for a family.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Yell I've seen those hard working Americans, this past Christmas, beggeing for an extention on their water bill while talking on the newest wireless phone making an appointment to the beautian. getting in to that new shiny car, with the in box new flat screen tv in the back yep thats the hard working American for you.

I don't care if it is my post it's worth repeating

It is worth repeating to show you are completely clueless regarding the economic conditions in this country.

Replaying the "poor people drive Cadilacs and eat Filet Mignon" rightwing myth proves it

No you're clueless. When you don't have the money for the basics of life you do not go out and buy things like wireless phone service, new tv go to the hair dresser, designer clothes, new car. You are totaly out of the reim of reality. When money is short you cut the non needed items and use your money on things you need.

OH and by the way, it's not a myth, I see it with my own eyes everytime I go pay a bill, such as water electric. Or I over hear at the bank about someone asking help for bounced checks.

 

[Stephanie]

I don't care if it is my post it's worth repeating

It is worth repeating to show you are completely clueless regarding the economic conditions in this country.

Replaying the "poor people drive Cadilacs and eat Filet Mignon" rightwing myth proves it

No you're clueless. When you don't have the money for the basics of life you do not go out and buy things like wireless phone service, new tv go to the hair dresser, designer clothes, new car. You are totaly out of the reim of reality. When money is short you cut the non needed items and use your money on things you need.

What, cut back?
Not today, all ya gotta do is go to Our Sugar Daddy, the beloved Federal Guberment

 

[rightwinger]

I don't care if it is my post it's worth repeating

It is worth repeating to show you are completely clueless regarding the economic conditions in this country.

Replaying the "poor people drive Cadilacs and eat Filet Mignon" rightwing myth proves it

No you're clueless. When you don't have the money for the basics of life you do not go out and buy things like wireless phone service, new tv go to the hair dresser, designer clothes, new car. You are totaly out of the reim of reality. When money is short you cut the non needed items and use your money on things you need.

OH and by the way, it's not a myth, I see it with my own eyes everytime I go pay a bill, such as water electric. Or I over hear at the bank about someone asking help for bounced checks.

Thats odd..

What I see are people struggling to pay a $450 heating bill on top of $1500 rent. I see them wonder whether they can afford to go to a doctor because they can't afford the deductable.
I see them putting off maintenance on a 15 year old car and wondering how they can afford the gas and insurance