CDZ Thanks Be To Private Property and Why it Works; Tragedy of the Commons

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Yet, in the US we tend to see more of tragedy of the "welfare commons" than the warfare(common defense)commons.

However, it seems that the tragedy of commons could have been resolved through better management of the commons with a commons reeve instead of a shire reeve.
 

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It is never possible to own truly private property. At the current age of the internet, every government and bank preconditions every ownership. To own anything requires that you own the government first, because it is the government that makes people pay. So property ownership is restricted to those few individuals who control those financial organizations that control government. However a further twist is that there is another even higher layer of power which owns those individuals. And no, it is not the people. To make property ownership real, you would have to first reduce infrastructure to medieval levels.
 

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Thanksgiving??
Another method of brainwashing Americans into believing they are getting a piece of the pie, when in fact they're being ripped off by the system that forces huge income inequality on them.

And you betcha, they wave old glory and swallow the whole thing like good lemmings are expected to do in America.
 

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It is never possible to own truly private property. At the current age of the internet, every government and bank preconditions every ownership. To own anything requires that you own the government first, because it is the government that makes people pay. So property ownership is restricted to those few individuals who control those financial organizations that control government. However a further twist is that there is another even higher layer of power which owns those individuals. And no, it is not the people. To make property ownership real, you would have to first reduce infrastructure to medieval levels.
Your post is a mass of inaccuracies.
"Ownership" consists of a bundle of rights. Those include the right to sell, to rent, to improve. Which one of those rights is impinged by government or banks? To what extent?
 

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It is never possible to own truly private property. At the current age of the internet, every government and bank preconditions every ownership. To own anything requires that you own the government first, because it is the government that makes people pay. So property ownership is restricted to those few individuals who control those financial organizations that control government. However a further twist is that there is another even higher layer of power which owns those individuals. And no, it is not the people. To make property ownership real, you would have to first reduce infrastructure to medieval levels.
Your post is a mass of inaccuracies.
"Ownership" consists of a bundle of rights. Those include the right to sell, to rent, to improve. Which one of those rights is impinged by government or banks? To what extent?
For example in germany, if you want to improve your home Then your rights are so badly impinge that nobody ever completes his home improvement beyond 90 %.
 

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It is never possible to own truly private property. At the current age of the internet, every government and bank preconditions every ownership. To own anything requires that you own the government first, because it is the government that makes people pay. So property ownership is restricted to those few individuals who control those financial organizations that control government. However a further twist is that there is another even higher layer of power which owns those individuals. And no, it is not the people. To make property ownership real, you would have to first reduce infrastructure to medieval levels.
Your post is a mass of inaccuracies.
"Ownership" consists of a bundle of rights. Those include the right to sell, to rent, to improve. Which one of those rights is impinged by government or banks? To what extent?
For example in germany, if you want to improve your home Then your rights are so badly impinge that nobody ever completes his home improvement beyond 90 %.
This isnt Germany.
 

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There's no wonder why Americans are so preoccupied with property rights and free speech.

They got none!

That's the price of allowing the very wealthy to snooker the people out of their share of the American pie.

Are Americans ready to start to scratch their way back yet?

I'm a Canadian and maybe I can help, so let me know!
Dumping support of the apartheid regime would at least indicate good intentions!
 

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There's no wonder why Americans are so preoccupied with property rights and free speech.

They got none!

That's the price of allowing the very wealthy to snooker the people out of their share of the American pie.

Are Americans ready to start to scratch their way back yet?

I'm a Canadian and maybe I can help, so let me know!
Dumping support of the apartheid regime would at least indicate good intentions!
Americans have no property rights? You are sadly misinformed. Especially rich coming from a Canadian.
 

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It is never possible to own truly private property. At the current age of the internet, every government and bank preconditions every ownership. To own anything requires that you own the government first, because it is the government that makes people pay. So property ownership is restricted to those few individuals who control those financial organizations that control government. However a further twist is that there is another even higher layer of power which owns those individuals. And no, it is not the people. To make property ownership real, you would have to first reduce infrastructure to medieval levels.
Your post is a mass of inaccuracies.
"Ownership" consists of a bundle of rights. Those include the right to sell, to rent, to improve. Which one of those rights is impinged by government or banks? To what extent?
For example in germany, if you want to improve your home Then your rights are so badly impinge that nobody ever completes his home improvement beyond 90 %.
This isnt Germany.
It doesn't matter.
 

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It is never possible to own truly private property. At the current age of the internet, every government and bank preconditions every ownership. To own anything requires that you own the government first, because it is the government that makes people pay. So property ownership is restricted to those few individuals who control those financial organizations that control government. However a further twist is that there is another even higher layer of power which owns those individuals. And no, it is not the people. To make property ownership real, you would have to first reduce infrastructure to medieval levels.
Your post is a mass of inaccuracies.
"Ownership" consists of a bundle of rights. Those include the right to sell, to rent, to improve. Which one of those rights is impinged by government or banks? To what extent?
For example in germany, if you want to improve your home Then your rights are so badly impinge that nobody ever completes his home improvement beyond 90 %.
This isnt Germany.
It doesn't matter.
Thats actually the crux of it.
 

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