Texans are fools to pass up on Johnny Football.here is why.

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Seattle didnt win because of Wilson. Few undersized QBs win in the NFL which is why the Texans wont gamble on Johnny.

Manziel= Doug Flutie

If he is lucky

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We dont often agree. But you obviously know your shit when it comes to football.

 

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I remember hearing a couple years ago from a friend of mine to look out for a guy known as Johnny Football and I never forgot his name because what he told me blew me away.

That he was at some stadium and before a live crowd, he threw a football from the VERY TOP of the stadium nosebleed seats in the upper level and made a basket through the hoop of basketball goal they had on the stadium.Not once,but TWICE!!!!

Once you can chalk it up to a miracle fluke but TWICE!!!! no way.the guy is an extremely rare talent.from what all the experts are saying,they expect the texans to pass on him though. I guess they must not be aware of that amazing accomplishment he achived. Kurt Warner also thinks basically thinks they are crazy pretty much if they pass up on him.listen to his comments.

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Good thing he was in the nosebleed seats. If you put in the lower tier he wouldnt be able to see above the rim.
No doubt the guy is accurate,but we saw what happened to RG III.
Scrambling QB's eventually get killed,especially one's as small as Johnny.
The Texans will take Clowney in the first because there are no QBs worth a first in this years draft.
Just look at Brady,he was picked 199 over all.

Wilson has yet to get killed.RG wouldnt have been hurt near as bad as he was and been inaccurate this past year if not for that dipshit idiot Shannahan who let him keep playing hurt knowing the risks.shannahan should never be allowed to be a coach again. the proof is in the pudding he is overrated and it was john elway that made him look like a genius.Since he lost Elway,he has shown what an ovarrated hack he is. and that thing on tom brady is just my point ibeen saying all along,you got to go back 15 years or so before wilson to find a quarterback in the late round that panned out.

 

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Manziel= Doug Flutie

If he is lucky

We dont often agree. But you obviously know your shit when it comes to football. [/QUOTE]

He obviously has reading and memory comprehension problems cause thats how he ALWAYS acts in his debates.

I love that warped logic of his,Manzeil at 6'1" is somehow comparable to being undersized to flutie who was around 5'8".He sure does provide comedy relief arouind here doesnt he?

 

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He wasnt playing against NFL quality players.
While scrambling is a good quality to have you still need to be able to sit in the pocket,you cant run an offense with that ability alone.

In college football they don't allow saccing a quarterback?

In college football college players don't play defensive linemen?




Try Again.

So you're saying college players are as good as pro's? You do realize most college players dont make it to the NFL right?

thats because most dont have the rare talent that mr football has.

 

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The fact that you debate whether Manziel will be a good NFL QB or not, means he is not the first pick in the draft.


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Deep Thoughts.

Perhaps I should more actively debate whether or not Hillary will be our next President...thereby insuring she will not be, simply be virtue of the fact that it is debateable.

 

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The fact that you debate whether Manziel will be a good NFL QB or not, means he is not the first pick in the draft.


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Exactly. I dont see any QBs worth a first pick this year.
And Seattle won with good D,not because Wilson is a stand out QB.

Looks like you were asleep when wilson and the seahawks had the ball.Lets see they were down 10- nothing agaisnt the niners who had been in the championship game the year before,he only hit kearse in the end zone on a 3rd and 15 i believe it was with two defenders all over him,and hit doug baldwin on a 4th and 9 keeping the drive alive against the saints,a key to their victory in that game as they later scored a touchdown.Yep wilsons not a stand out quarterback alright.thats typical of youir average normal qb to make plays like that in clutch situations.

 

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Manziel= Doug Flutie

If he is lucky

We dont often agree. But you obviously know your shit when it comes to football.

He obviously has reading and memory comprehension problems cause thats how he ALWAYS acts in his debates.

I love that warped logic of his,Manzeil at 6'1" is somehow comparable to being undersized to flutie who was around 5'8".He sure does provide comedy relief arouind here doesnt he?[/QUOTE]

He's actually 5'11" and 3/4"

 

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So you're saying college players are as good as pro's? You do realize most college players dont make it to the NFL right?

Lemme 'splain somethin to you:

In college, quarterbacks get sacced.

TAMU's offensive line may have been the best in the SEC during 2013, but that didn't mean LSU, Alabama, and Auburn had a bunch of pussies running defense against them.

Try thinking a little deeper than the obvious: It won't make your ears bleed.

Get the picture now?

You can bet Johnny will get "sacked" way more often in the NFL.
And as small as he is you can bet he'll be get broke,just like RGIII.
And the Texans have a history of taking BPA,and I expect that to continue.
There isn't a single QB in this years draft worth the first pick and I expect the Texans to go with Clowney and pick up a QB with the 33 pick or possibly work a trade with the Patriots for Mallett.
And Johnny doesnt fit what O'brien considers his ideal QB and since the guy is considered a genius when it comes to offense and QBs? I'll take his word over some guy on the internet.

which assures them of becoming like the kansas city chiefs of the 90's making it to the playoffs but never advancing to the superbowl if they follow your lead.

pass up on Manziel and build a great defense with your first choice being used on Clowner and settle for an unproven quarterback over an entire season in mallet.thats the formula to take if yeah,you just want to settle for making it to the playoffs but never making it to the big dance.

I'll take the formula the colts and cowboys did with manning and aikman any day of the year,use the no 1 pick on manziel and buiold the the team around the quarterback,without the cool hand of a talented QB,you can forget the big dance,just ask the chiefs from the 1990's or the steelers from that decade as well who had an excellent defense but a flash in the pan QB named kordell stewart who never could advance them any further than the AFC title game.

got to go with the quarterback.its way too risky to pass up and HOPE mallet pans out.that seldom ever works out.

 

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Don't be surprised if the Texans trade out of the number one spot for a shitload of picks. If the Texans don't want Clowney, I think Atlanta would trade up to get him

 

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Russel was ranked 13th overall last year,but no doubt he stepped up when it counted. But that doesnt change the fact that Seattle won with D.

 

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The fact that you debate whether Manziel will be a good NFL QB or not, means he is not the first pick in the draft.


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Exactly. I dont see any QBs worth a first pick this year.
And Seattle won with good D,not because Wilson is a stand out QB.

Yep, without the D Seattle was finished. Their D came up big all day, almost every game.


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yet they never would have advanced to the superbowl with an incompetent QB had they not drafted wilson.just ask the chiefs and the steelers in the 90's how things worked out for them with a great defense but not a good competent proven quarterback..

 

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bottles is considered a better prospect than Manziel. Manziel is a run then throw QB, it doesn't work real well. He is short, which doesn't mean he won't be good but name all the short QB's that are top tier QBs.

He has never been in a pro-style offense, he already is carrying baggage from his last collegiate year. He gets rattled under pressure. His Wonderlic score is good but the NFL doesn't fit his style. Tebow was a good college QB and couldn't make it.

He may prove me wrong but I don't see him as a first pick. Vince Young was a sure no fire miss, where is he?

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I would take Bortles over Johnny all day and on Sunday. But he isnt worth the 1.1 pick either.
The only stand out short QB right now that I can think of is Drew Brees.
In this draft you take the BPA even if you need a QB ...and thats Clowney.

yeah wilson is not a stand out QB thats why he made all these clutchaccurate throws downfield in ther playoffs under extreme pressure all the time.

 

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bottles is considered a better prospect than Manziel. Manziel is a run then throw QB, it doesn't work real well. He is short, which doesn't mean he won't be good but name all the short QB's that are top tier QBs.

He has never been in a pro-style offense, he already is carrying baggage from his last collegiate year. He gets rattled under pressure. His Wonderlic score is good but the NFL doesn't fit his style. Tebow was a good college QB and couldn't make it.

He may prove me wrong but I don't see him as a first pick. Vince Young was a sure no fire miss, where is he?

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Continue to parrot the blogs from Jeric Griffin.

I'll believe the seasoned warrior's opinions:

“I think Manziel is a Russell Wilson-type player. He doesn’t have the height; he has a strong arm and he throws with accuracy. I just think there’s something about this kid. I think Manziel is going to be a valuable player in the NFL.”- Roger Staubach

there you have it,



First Kurt warner has nothing but great praise for him,Now Roger Staubach.two guys who know a little something about being a great quarterback more than any of us do thats for sure.

 

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In college football they don't allow saccing a quarterback?

In college football college players don't play defensive linemen?




Try Again.

So you're saying college players are as good as pro's? You do realize most college players dont make it to the NFL right?

thats because most dont have the rare talent that mr football has.

He's rare talent in college ball. I just dont think his style of football translates well to the NFL. I could be wrong but history is on my side.

 

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bottles is considered a better prospect than Manziel. Manziel is a run then throw QB, it doesn't work real well. He is short, which doesn't mean he won't be good but name all the short QB's that are top tier QBs.

He has never been in a pro-style offense, he already is carrying baggage from his last collegiate year. He gets rattled under pressure. His Wonderlic score is good but the NFL doesn't fit his style. Tebow was a good college QB and couldn't make it.

He may prove me wrong but I don't see him as a first pick. Vince Young was a sure no fire miss, where is he?

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Continue to parrot the blogs from Jeric Griffin.

I'll believe the seasoned warrior's opinions:

“I think Manziel is a Russell Wilson-type player. He doesn’t have the height; he has a strong arm and he throws with accuracy. I just think there’s something about this kid. I think Manziel is going to be a valuable player in the NFL.”- Roger Staubach

there you have it,



First Kurt warner has nothing but great praise for him,Now Roger Staubach.two guiys who know a little soemthing about being a quarterback more than any of us do thats for sure.

Whoever BoB picks I'll get behind,the guy is an offensive genius. If he picks Manziel so be it.
But from what I've gleaned over the last few months Johnny doesnt fit his ideal of a QB in his style offense.

 

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I'm a Texans fan, and as one I hope they pick Clowney first, then pray that Bortles is left for the second round.

Better yet, trade up and get them both in the first round.

Texans fan Myself.
I see us taking Clowney and finding a QB elsewhere,whether it's through a trade or the draft.
Whatever happens you just have to trust in BoB. The guys an offensive genius.

where you going to find one to take you to the big dance though.It wont be Mallek..

 

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Ya... that was the book on Lucky Luck.. Once In A Generation.. He should probably go ahead on and write his autobiography and play himself in the movie of the same title.

Luck was the 27 th rated passer in 2012 and 17 th last season while that midget 3 rd rounder Wilson was 4 th and 7 th respectively...THAT with generally accepted as "pedestrian" receivers.

Call me a doubting Thomas but I'm starting to wonder which "generation" he is supposed to star in..

Luck also plays in the same conference that gave up Mannings crazy good numbers last season and the runt had to beat any number of NFC teams that would probably have had their way with the Broncos had they made it to the Super Bowl.

I'm really just having more and more trouble seeing what the big deal is with Luck. If he has another so-so season it might just be time to nudge him off the pedestal everyone seems to have placed him on.

you and me both.This guy so far has only shown me that he follows his predesser up in Indy that when he gets to the playoffs,he chokes.I figured after he screwed up and threw all those interceptions against the chiefs that surely he would be much more careful the next time against the pats.Little did i know how wrong i would be. If he had just thrown the ball away all those times instead of being stupid trying to force it in there,they would have had a much better chance of winning that game. He is still young but so far,im not impressed with him at all like I am with wilson and RG 3 before he got hurt.

I'd still take Luck over Johnny.
Luck's still young and I believe he has the ability to get better. Was he a world beater last year? Absolutely not,but he did show he can be a top notch QB.

well duh,Luck has had TWO years under his belt in the NFL starting so thats a bad comparison.Its too early to tell right now since its only his second year but so far Luck has shown me with his play he is another Peyton Manning and Dan Marino.someone who looks great during the regular season but chokes in big games.

Luck has not impressed me like wilson has.again that was pretty asinine for him to throw 3 interceptions against the pats not learning his lesson the week before against the chiefs.wilson,he never makes the same mistake twice in back to back games,he corrects those mistake the following week.Till Luck does that,Im not impressed with him so far.

 

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Russel was ranked 13th overall last year,but no doubt he stepped up when it counted. But that doesnt change the fact that Seattle won with D.

Yeah during the last 4 games of the season wilson struggled and the defense won it for them in that stretch.However without his amazing plays he made in the clutch when the game was on the line in the playoffs,no way do the Hawks defense alone advance them to the superbowl and win it.Had the Hawks had a QB like Grbec,Bonehead,or Slash Stewart,they go nowhere past the first round without having a clutch QB like russel.

 

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Continue to parrot the blogs from Jeric Griffin.

I'll believe the seasoned warrior's opinions:

“I think Manziel is a Russell Wilson-type player. He doesn’t have the height; he has a strong arm and he throws with accuracy. I just think there’s something about this kid. I think Manziel is going to be a valuable player in the NFL.”- Roger Staubach

there you have it,



First Kurt warner has nothing but great praise for him,Now Roger Staubach.two guiys who know a little soemthing about being a quarterback more than any of us do thats for sure.

Whoever BoB picks I'll get behind,the guy is an offensive genius. If he picks Manziel so be it.
But from what I've gleaned over the last few months Johnny doesnt fit his ideal of a QB in his style offense.

I dont care if the Texans dont take him,I just think they are fools if they dont.since it looks like they will pass up on him,they will be doing me a favor.I hope the raiders take him so when my Chargers play them,I will have a chance to see him play twice a year.so its all good for me if the Texans want to pass up on him.that is if The Browns dont take him first.

 

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Manziel= Doug Flutie

If he is lucky

We dont often agree. But you obviously know your shit when it comes to football. [/QUOTE]

actually no he doesnt.He was dense enough to pick the donkeys to win the superbowl. despite how Huggy said the seahawks would win the superbowl before the season started.He couldnt grasp it that the real superbwol was the Hawks/niners game.I kept saying the whole week leading up that that game the winner of that game was going to win the superbowl.It was so obvious they would win it easily.The hawks were healthy where the donkesy were banged up and had too many key injurys. I would have thought since he was aware that manning always chokes in the big game that he would have wised up about him by now. some people never learn though.