Tesla charging station in california where it takes 30 to 60 minutes to charge.

[LordBrownTrout]

Battery tech gets 200-250 miles per charge

Good place to start an$ it will get better

Too dangerous for the ecosystem and environment.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I look for auto manufacturers to integrate solar panels into the roof of EVs

Will allow charging all day

They said that 30 years ago for panels on houses. Its just not happening and is supplemental at best.

 

[rightwinger]

They said that 30 years ago for panels on houses. Its just not happening and is supplemental at best.

Every little bit helps

 

[Dekster]

You know that have more than one charge point...

This is an infrastructure problem US has with high power chargers... Europe is busy putting in charges which can do 200kw per hour charging... This will give 200miles in about 15-20 min... You must remember that the car starts the morning with about 400miles in the tank...

So you can end up needing a charge during the day but how many times will you drive 400miles nonstop and don't want a 20 min rest...

The real question is, why is US infrasturce falling behind the Rest of the first world?

Your country is about the size of one of our states--West Virginia. We have a ton more terrain to cover. We aren't "falling behind". Your country has 7200 miles of regional roads. The US has 164K miles of highway and over 4 million miles of public roads. It takes a lot of time and money just to be able to keep people from getting from point A to point B in America.

 

[fncceo]

Europe is busy putting in charges which can do 200kw per hour charging...

Do the math on that one... an average family home uses 30-40 Kw PER DAY.

Imagine using nearly 7 times that much to make ONE car to go a measly 200 miles.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Every little bit helps

It's possible to supply one's own electricity now, live off grid, and be independent of the local utility company ie solar, windmill, geothermal coils.

 

[miketx]

They said that 30 years ago for panels on houses. Its just not happening and is supplemental at best.

I know of this one dude in WV that built his home on his land with just him and his wife doing all the work and they appear to be off grid. His solar panel array if huge and all the electronic stuff the make it all work in its own small shed. Must have cost a fortune.

 

[fncceo]

Every little bit helps

But, it really doesn't. A panel sized for a car roof would produce only 5% of your car's full charge in 12 hours of sunshine.

 

[Billy_Bob]

What makes you think the grid can’t handle it
Most charging is done at night when usage is low

California already has a maxed-out grid load. When the power drops 5 volts (called a brown out) it increases the amperage by 5-10%. This amperage spike melts grid components, destroys transformers and can stop generators dead. You do not know much about the science of electricity. Ohm's Law is unforgiving. There is a reason power companies turn off whole sections of the grid when the load gets too high. (Called rolling blackouts). They are trying to stop a catastrophic cascade failure of the grid.

 

[Nate]

Looks like we need more charging stations

As gas stations start to lose customers, they will need to add rapid charging capabilities.

I also see more restaurants and malls adding EV charging.
Come in and shop/eat while you are waiting for your car to charge

It's just not feasible. In California alone, there are over 14,000,000 registered vehicles;

U.S.: total number of automobiles by state | Statista

How many recharge stations would need to be built to cater that?

Also, there just isn't enough raw material being mined/sold to even come close to supplying just our country alone in our lifetime...

 

[22lcidw]

Every little bit helps

Not if it costs many times more than its worth. We have spent untold amounts of money on wind and solar power. It is still gruesome to homes and places for passable public enjoyment. Promises were made that should have been much more than it is. But of course, we went with Edion instead of Tesla way back then and the money to made is Edison based.

 

[Billy_Bob]

I know of this one dude in WV that built his home on his land with just him and his wife doing all the work and they appear to be off grid. His solar panel array if huge and all the electronic stuff the make it all work in its own small shed. Must have cost a fortune.

LOL.. I follow him and his wife... IT cost them about 46,000.00 and it is unreliable especially in winter. The man is an electrician by trade, he planned this out himself. Had they used a contractor his cost would have been well over 100 grand..

 

[ColonelAngus]

Not enough surface area.
All day in direct sunlight would only result in the gain of a mile or two. And that's near the equator.
On a large semi trailer it "might" make a small difference but only in very strong sunlight.
Divide that by 100 for northern latitudes.

The problem with Marxists and the Left is they live on or at least peddle Pipe Dreams based on Unicorn fantasies

There is no place for Reality in the Leftists constricted mind.

Their puppetmasters know it is all bullshit, but they stand to gain money and power.

People like that poster are simply useful idiots. None of this shit makes any sense.

Notice how no one has any answers for the military or airplanes?

 

[Theowl32]

There's already research proving that over the life of an electric vs gasoline powered vehicle (materials acquisition to crusher) that the electric vehicle produces a larger total lifetime carbon footprint. That does not even account for the damage done to the environment from mining the materials and environmental impact from collisions and leakage with fires.

If you bought an EV to "save the planet"....you've been HAD.

But they bought carbon credits from gore....ssooooo...it's all good.

To them.

 

[fncceo]

How many recharge stations would need to be built to cater that?

Assuming one partial battery charges on a standard model Tesla (a "full" charge takes more than 10 hours) of two hours. That's 12 cars per day per charging station

That's 1 Million 166 Thousand and 7 hundred charging stations.

More than 100 times the number of gas stations in California.

 

[miketx]

his wife

 

[Theowl32]

Here are some facts to consider lefties.

It takes around 180lbs of copper to make one electric vehicle. That is approximately 5 times more copper than it takes to make a combustion engine vehicle.

A solar farm used to generate energy used to deliver to houses takes around 5 times the amount of copper that it would take for a natural gas or coal fired or nuclear power plant.

Now try to imagine converting every last vehicle into a electric vehicles then we are going to be needing a significant amount of copper.

If they are going to build every last house and convert every last house and building in the world to run on electric solar to satisfy the largest group (millennials) demands, then we are going to be needing a whole lot more copper.

That doesn't include the amount of copper needed for the enormous wind farms.

There is literally nothing that can replace copper. According to the periodic table there is nothing that can replace it. There is only one thing that conducts electricity better and that is silver and considering how much less silver there is than copper.

Currently there is around 870,000,000 tons of copper in reserves.

There is 530,000 tons of silver in reserves.

Sigh.....

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

But they bought carbon credits from gore....ssooooo...it's all good.

To them.

Exactly.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Assuming one partial battery charges on a standard model Tesla (a "full" charge takes more than 10 hours) of two hours. That's 12 cars per day per charging station

That's 1 Million 166 Thousand and 7 hundred charging stations.

More than 100 times the number of gas stations in California.

And each charger draws 50-70 amps at 230 volts. There is no way in hell any grid could survive that increase in amperage draw.

 

[Theowl32]

And each charger draws 50-70 amps at 230 volts. There is no way in hell any grid could survive that increase in amperage draw.

But but gore said that if you buy carbon credits from him that everything would work fine and dandy.

You're a racist.