Tennessee Representative rips Repubs over Keystone XL powderkeg

[saveliberty]

Didn't we go through all of this with the Alaskan Pipeline way back when?'

I suppose it is just chance that oil prices have dropped when we are considering this pipeline again.

 

[Pogo]

a pipeline built of IMPORTED pipes (they're from India ) that will supply TEMPORARY jobs, will further pollute the atmosphere & poses danger for MANY ground spills, and benefits foreign countries. Why are Repubs "for" something that has none of the attributes & all of the liabilities? This is corporate fluffing in its highest art form

Nothing but fear mongering bullshit. There is absolutely no reason not to build the Keystone pipeline other than to placate radical environmentalists who don't have the support of the American people.

By the same token there's no reason to build it other than to grease the wheels of Big Oil's production, and thereby cut their costs. Given that we (and the world) are "addicted to oil", it's basically analogous to a drug dealer smuggling product from Canada to China, and we get to play the part of the mule.

You know the mule? The guy who gets paid to swallow a balloon of coke, take a flight and then shit it out at point B?

There's nothing wrong with oil.

I didn't say it was wrong or right, bad or good. I described what the pipeline does, and who it does it for.

You know, busting myths as always. Work work work.

Canada will just sell the oil to someone else anyway. It's not like anything is being stopped so it may as well be us.

It wouldn't be "sold to us" -- we're just holding the bag. Literally.
Keep in mind, there is no "us" in the equation. The interested party is the oil company. And they work for their shareholders -- not for "us".

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

a pipeline built of IMPORTED pipes (they're from India ) that will supply TEMPORARY jobs, will further pollute the atmosphere & poses danger for MANY ground spills, and benefits foreign countries. Why are Repubs "for" something that has none of the attributes & all of the liabilities? This is corporate fluffing in its highest art form

Nothing but fear mongering bullshit. There is absolutely no reason not to build the Keystone pipeline other than to placate radical environmentalists who don't have the support of the American people.

By the same token there's no reason to build it other than to grease the wheels of Big Oil's production, and thereby cut their costs. Given that we (and the world) are "addicted to oil", it's basically analogous to a drug dealer smuggling product from Canada to China, and we get to play the part of the mule.

You know the mule? The guy who gets paid to swallow a balloon of coke, take a flight and then shit it out at point B?

it's basically analogous to a drug dealer smuggling product from Canada to China, and we get to play the part of the mule.
Do you understand where China is?

Sure do -- on the Pacific, where it can be accessed by a tanker that loaded up in Houston, where the refineries and docks are.

Do you know where the pipeline would go?

Sure do -- Houston, where the refineries and docks are.
I think I just said that.

Do you understand how stupid your claim is?

Nope.

You new at this pipeline thing?

Sure do -- on the Pacific, where it can be accessed by a tanker that loaded up in Houston, where the refineries and docks are.
Where does this tanker in Houston go to get the oil to China?
Detail the route for me.

 

[Dot Com]

a pipeline built of IMPORTED pipes (they're from India ) that will supply TEMPORARY jobs, will further pollute the atmosphere & poses danger for MANY ground spills, and benefits foreign countries. Why are Repubs "for" something that has none of the attributes & all of the liabilities? This is corporate fluffing in its highest art form

Hey genius, why are you using that computer in front of your nose? It relies on petrochemical-based components; all of the plastics in fact. Why are you using it, hypocrite? Why aren't you living in a cave, wiping your ass with a raccoon carcass? That's just about the state of survival you enjoy if petroleum were removed from the 21st century landscape. Do you lemmings ever think before you open your mouths?

that rebuttal could be used for every post having to do w/ oil dummy Tom Sweetnam

 

[Tom Sweetnam]

a pipeline built of IMPORTED pipes (they're from India ) that will supply TEMPORARY jobs, will further pollute the atmosphere & poses danger for MANY ground spills, and benefits foreign countries. Why are Repubs "for" something that has none of the attributes & all of the liabilities? This is corporate fluffing in its highest art form

Hey genius, why are you using that computer in front of your nose? It relies on petrochemical-based components; all of the plastics in fact. Why are you using it, hypocrite? Why aren't you living in a cave, wiping your ass with a raccoon carcass? That's just about the state of survival you enjoy if petroleum were removed from the 21st century landscape. Do you lemmings ever think before you open your mouths?

that rebuttal could be used for every post having to do w/ oil dummy Tom Sweetnam

Poor stupid useful idiot. You just put on your lemming suit and jump off whatever cliff you're told to, don't you? You realize you're dancing to the tune of Bay-Area billionaires who themselves have made fortunes in oil, yes?

 

[Dot Com]

a pipeline built of IMPORTED pipes (they're from India ) that will supply TEMPORARY jobs, will further pollute the atmosphere & poses danger for MANY ground spills, and benefits foreign countries. Why are Repubs "for" something that has none of the attributes & all of the liabilities? This is corporate fluffing in its highest art form

Hey genius, why are you using that computer in front of your nose? It relies on petrochemical-based components; all of the plastics in fact. Why are you using it, hypocrite? Why aren't you living in a cave, wiping your ass with a raccoon carcass? That's just about the state of survival you enjoy if petroleum were removed from the 21st century landscape. Do you lemmings ever think before you open your mouths?

that rebuttal could be used for every post having to do w/ oil dummy Tom Sweetnam

Poor stupid useful idiot. You just put on your lemming suit and jump off whatever cliff you're told to, don't you? You realize you're dancing to the tune of Bay-Area billionaires who themselves have made fortunes in oil, yes?

keep the generalization logic up

 

[Tom Sweetnam]

Poor useful idiot dot com doesn't have any answers when you corner him outside his box of 20 diminutives and 10 hackneyed anecdotes. That's all the ammunition democrat proles have.

"But...but...," says dot com, "If we import oil from Canada (our biggest oil supplier), then 9% of what we don't use ourselves (at Texaco stations mostly), will be processed into petrochemicals for domestic use and 5% of the total import from Canada for export abroad, and that'll mean 10,000 skilled jobs -chemists, engineers, and many other scietific specialists, and many blue collar jobs as well, and billions in trade income...and ummm...well, that'll just be horrible, and ummm, stoopid...and ummm, nazi and prolly global warmy and stuff like that too. Oh the humanity!

Hey idiot, tell me why importing oil from Canada is a bad thing. Tell me why jobs are a bad thing. Tell me why billions in export income is a bad thing. And lastly, tell me why securing our future as regards a dependable petroleum supply, instead of relying on OPEC's whims, is a bad thing. Sound off dummy, or are you completely out of useful idiot ammunition...which is all bullshit anyway.

 

[Dot Com]

huh?

you lost the debate ystrdy shit stain Tom Sweetnam . Why you continue on? I've moved on? The Rep from Tennessee hit the nail on the head Gomer.

You're alright though if you're a vet and not a FAKEVET

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

huh?

you lost the debate ystrdy shit stain Tom Sweetnam . Why you continue on? I've moved on? The Rep from Tennessee hit the nail on the head Gomer.

You're alright though if you're a vet and not a FAKEVET

I've moved on?

You sure have.

 

[Pogo]

Poor useful idiot dot com doesn't have any answers when you corner him outside his box of 20 diminutives and 10 hackneyed anecdotes. That's all the ammunition democrat proles have.

"But...but...," says dot com, "If we import oil from Canada (our biggest oil supplier), then 9% of what we don't use ourselves (at Texaco stations mostly), will be processed into petrochemicals for domestic use and 5% of the total import from Canada for export abroad, and that'll mean 10,000 skilled jobs -chemists, engineers, and many other scietific specialists, and many blue collar jobs as well, and billions in trade income...and ummm...well, that'll just be horrible, and ummm, stoopid...and ummm, nazi and prolly global warmy and stuff like that too. Oh the humanity!

Hey idiot, tell me why importing oil from Canada is a bad thing. Tell me why jobs are a bad thing. Tell me why billions in export income is a bad thing. And lastly, tell me why securing our future as regards a dependable petroleum supply, instead of relying on OPEC's whims, is a bad thing. Sound off dummy, or are you completely out of useful idiot ammunition...which is all bullshit anyway.

Oh horseshit. This pipeline creates maybe 30 to 50 jobs watching for leaks, that's it. The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia -- where the market is. It doesn't end up at the Shell station in Dubuque, nor is it in the interest of a profit-centred entity to put it there. That's who the pipeline benefits -- the Exxons and Chevrons.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Poor useful idiot dot com doesn't have any answers when you corner him outside his box of 20 diminutives and 10 hackneyed anecdotes. That's all the ammunition democrat proles have.

"But...but...," says dot com, "If we import oil from Canada (our biggest oil supplier), then 9% of what we don't use ourselves (at Texaco stations mostly), will be processed into petrochemicals for domestic use and 5% of the total import from Canada for export abroad, and that'll mean 10,000 skilled jobs -chemists, engineers, and many other scietific specialists, and many blue collar jobs as well, and billions in trade income...and ummm...well, that'll just be horrible, and ummm, stoopid...and ummm, nazi and prolly global warmy and stuff like that too. Oh the humanity!

Hey idiot, tell me why importing oil from Canada is a bad thing. Tell me why jobs are a bad thing. Tell me why billions in export income is a bad thing. And lastly, tell me why securing our future as regards a dependable petroleum supply, instead of relying on OPEC's whims, is a bad thing. Sound off dummy, or are you completely out of useful idiot ammunition...which is all bullshit anyway.

Oh horseshit. This pipeline creates maybe 30 to 50 jobs watching for leaks, that's it. The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia -- where the market is. It doesn't end up at the Shell station in Dubuque, nor is it in the interest of a profit-centred entity to put it there. That's who the pipeline benefits -- the Exxons and Chevrons.

The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia

Refining jobs, increased profits and increased exports. Better for the economy than anything Obama has done.

 

[Pogo]

Poor useful idiot dot com doesn't have any answers when you corner him outside his box of 20 diminutives and 10 hackneyed anecdotes. That's all the ammunition democrat proles have.

"But...but...," says dot com, "If we import oil from Canada (our biggest oil supplier), then 9% of what we don't use ourselves (at Texaco stations mostly), will be processed into petrochemicals for domestic use and 5% of the total import from Canada for export abroad, and that'll mean 10,000 skilled jobs -chemists, engineers, and many other scietific specialists, and many blue collar jobs as well, and billions in trade income...and ummm...well, that'll just be horrible, and ummm, stoopid...and ummm, nazi and prolly global warmy and stuff like that too. Oh the humanity!

Hey idiot, tell me why importing oil from Canada is a bad thing. Tell me why jobs are a bad thing. Tell me why billions in export income is a bad thing. And lastly, tell me why securing our future as regards a dependable petroleum supply, instead of relying on OPEC's whims, is a bad thing. Sound off dummy, or are you completely out of useful idiot ammunition...which is all bullshit anyway.

Oh horseshit. This pipeline creates maybe 30 to 50 jobs watching for leaks, that's it. The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia -- where the market is. It doesn't end up at the Shell station in Dubuque, nor is it in the interest of a profit-centred entity to put it there. That's who the pipeline benefits -- the Exxons and Chevrons.

The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia

Refining jobs, increased profits and increased exports. Better for the economy than anything Obama has done.

Now you're shifting your basis. The premises I corrected were the "thousands of jobs" and "supplying oil to us" canards, neither of which are reality. Now you want to abandon that and note that Big Oil would get the chance to make more money than O'bama.

OK then...

Btw refineries are already maxed. You can't create jobs that are already there. Again, all this does is grease supply routes. In other words, it cuts Big Oil's overhead. That's why they want it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Poor useful idiot dot com doesn't have any answers when you corner him outside his box of 20 diminutives and 10 hackneyed anecdotes. That's all the ammunition democrat proles have.

"But...but...," says dot com, "If we import oil from Canada (our biggest oil supplier), then 9% of what we don't use ourselves (at Texaco stations mostly), will be processed into petrochemicals for domestic use and 5% of the total import from Canada for export abroad, and that'll mean 10,000 skilled jobs -chemists, engineers, and many other scietific specialists, and many blue collar jobs as well, and billions in trade income...and ummm...well, that'll just be horrible, and ummm, stoopid...and ummm, nazi and prolly global warmy and stuff like that too. Oh the humanity!

Hey idiot, tell me why importing oil from Canada is a bad thing. Tell me why jobs are a bad thing. Tell me why billions in export income is a bad thing. And lastly, tell me why securing our future as regards a dependable petroleum supply, instead of relying on OPEC's whims, is a bad thing. Sound off dummy, or are you completely out of useful idiot ammunition...which is all bullshit anyway.

Oh horseshit. This pipeline creates maybe 30 to 50 jobs watching for leaks, that's it. The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia -- where the market is. It doesn't end up at the Shell station in Dubuque, nor is it in the interest of a profit-centred entity to put it there. That's who the pipeline benefits -- the Exxons and Chevrons.

The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia

Refining jobs, increased profits and increased exports. Better for the economy than anything Obama has done.

Now you're shifting your basis. The premises I corrected were the "thousands of jobs" and "supplying oil to us" canards, neither of which are reality. Now you want to abandon that and note that Big Oil would get the chance to make more money than O'bama.

OK then...

Btw refineries are already maxed. You can't create jobs that are already there. Again, all this does is grease supply routes. In other words, it cuts Big Oil's overhead. That's why they want it.

You said they were going to ship oil to Texas in order to ship it to China. Wrong direction. If they want to ship to China, pipeline to the Pacific is the way to go.

Btw refineries are already maxed.

I wonder if those refineries could use Canadian oil, instead of Venezuelan?
Would that make our oil supply more or less secure?

You can't create jobs that are already there.

You're right, there is no way we would ever increase capacity and jobs with a cheap, secure source of oil. LOL!

In other words, it cuts Big Oil's overhead.

You're right, we'd never want to increase earnings and dividends for US oil companies, that would reduce Warren Buffett's earnings from shipping oil by train.

 

[chikenwing]

a pipeline built of IMPORTED pipes (they're from India ) that will supply TEMPORARY jobs, will further pollute the atmosphere & poses danger for MANY ground spills, and benefits foreign countries. Why are Repubs "for" something that has none of the attributes & all of the liabilities? This is corporate fluffing in its highest art form

Nothing but fear mongering bullshit. There is absolutely no reason not to build the Keystone pipeline other than to placate radical environmentalists who don't have the support of the American people.

what good is it for America other than being a middle-man? Its predecessor had leaks. The Ogalalla Aquifer is too important to too many farmers and other people who rely on it.

Middle man generally make more money,more than one product will be transported,there are fees,and taxes to be collected,its called commerce. Number of jobs created or not is irrelevant, and show us the magic link that all the pipe is coming from India.. Guess they don't deserve to eat and cloth their kids ether??!! There is much more to a pipline than just pipe and oil,but the grossly ignorant still pratter on .

 

[Pogo]

Poor useful idiot dot com doesn't have any answers when you corner him outside his box of 20 diminutives and 10 hackneyed anecdotes. That's all the ammunition democrat proles have.

"But...but...," says dot com, "If we import oil from Canada (our biggest oil supplier), then 9% of what we don't use ourselves (at Texaco stations mostly), will be processed into petrochemicals for domestic use and 5% of the total import from Canada for export abroad, and that'll mean 10,000 skilled jobs -chemists, engineers, and many other scietific specialists, and many blue collar jobs as well, and billions in trade income...and ummm...well, that'll just be horrible, and ummm, stoopid...and ummm, nazi and prolly global warmy and stuff like that too. Oh the humanity!

Hey idiot, tell me why importing oil from Canada is a bad thing. Tell me why jobs are a bad thing. Tell me why billions in export income is a bad thing. And lastly, tell me why securing our future as regards a dependable petroleum supply, instead of relying on OPEC's whims, is a bad thing. Sound off dummy, or are you completely out of useful idiot ammunition...which is all bullshit anyway.

Oh horseshit. This pipeline creates maybe 30 to 50 jobs watching for leaks, that's it. The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia -- where the market is. It doesn't end up at the Shell station in Dubuque, nor is it in the interest of a profit-centred entity to put it there. That's who the pipeline benefits -- the Exxons and Chevrons.

The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia

Refining jobs, increased profits and increased exports. Better for the economy than anything Obama has done.

Now you're shifting your basis. The premises I corrected were the "thousands of jobs" and "supplying oil to us" canards, neither of which are reality. Now you want to abandon that and note that Big Oil would get the chance to make more money than O'bama.

OK then...

Btw refineries are already maxed. You can't create jobs that are already there. Again, all this does is grease supply routes. In other words, it cuts Big Oil's overhead. That's why they want it.

You said they were going to ship oil to Texas in order to ship it to China. Wrong direction. If they want to ship to China, pipeline to the Pacific is the way to go.

Btw refineries are already maxed.

I wonder if those refineries could use Canadian oil, instead of Venezuelan?
Would that make our oil supply more or less secure?

You can't create jobs that are already there.

You're right, there is no way we would ever increase capacity and jobs with a cheap, secure source of oil. LOL!

In other words, it cuts Big Oil's overhead.

You're right, we'd never want to increase earnings and dividends for US oil companies, that would reduce Warren Buffett's earnings from shipping oil by train.

I accept your concessions. Now stop whining.

 

[chikenwing]

Poor useful idiot dot com doesn't have any answers when you corner him outside his box of 20 diminutives and 10 hackneyed anecdotes. That's all the ammunition democrat proles have.

"But...but...," says dot com, "If we import oil from Canada (our biggest oil supplier), then 9% of what we don't use ourselves (at Texaco stations mostly), will be processed into petrochemicals for domestic use and 5% of the total import from Canada for export abroad, and that'll mean 10,000 skilled jobs -chemists, engineers, and many other scietific specialists, and many blue collar jobs as well, and billions in trade income...and ummm...well, that'll just be horrible, and ummm, stoopid...and ummm, nazi and prolly global warmy and stuff like that too. Oh the humanity!

Hey idiot, tell me why importing oil from Canada is a bad thing. Tell me why jobs are a bad thing. Tell me why billions in export income is a bad thing. And lastly, tell me why securing our future as regards a dependable petroleum supply, instead of relying on OPEC's whims, is a bad thing. Sound off dummy, or are you completely out of useful idiot ammunition...which is all bullshit anyway.

Oh horseshit. This pipeline creates maybe 30 to 50 jobs watching for leaks, that's it. The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia -- where the market is. It doesn't end up at the Shell station in Dubuque, nor is it in the interest of a profit-centred entity to put it there. That's who the pipeline benefits -- the Exxons and Chevrons.

The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia

Refining jobs, increased profits and increased exports. Better for the economy than anything Obama has done.

Now you're shifting your basis. The premises I corrected were the "thousands of jobs" and "supplying oil to us" canards, neither of which are reality. Now you want to abandon that and note that Big Oil would get the chance to make more money than O'bama.

OK then...

Btw refineries are already maxed. You can't create jobs that are already there. Again, all this does is grease supply routes. In other words, it cuts Big Oil's overhead. That's why they want it.

You said they were going to ship oil to Texas in order to ship it to China. Wrong direction. If they want to ship to China, pipeline to the Pacific is the way to go.

Btw refineries are already maxed.

I wonder if those refineries could use Canadian oil, instead of Venezuelan?
Would that make our oil supply more or less secure?

You can't create jobs that are already there.

You're right, there is no way we would ever increase capacity and jobs with a cheap, secure source of oil. LOL!

In other words, it cuts Big Oil's overhead.

You're right, we'd never want to increase earnings and dividends for US oil companies, that would reduce Warren Buffett's earnings from shipping oil by train.

Poor useful idiot dot com doesn't have any answers when you corner him outside his box of 20 diminutives and 10 hackneyed anecdotes. That's all the ammunition democrat proles have.

"But...but...," says dot com, "If we import oil from Canada (our biggest oil supplier), then 9% of what we don't use ourselves (at Texaco stations mostly), will be processed into petrochemicals for domestic use and 5% of the total import from Canada for export abroad, and that'll mean 10,000 skilled jobs -chemists, engineers, and many other scietific specialists, and many blue collar jobs as well, and billions in trade income...and ummm...well, that'll just be horrible, and ummm, stoopid...and ummm, nazi and prolly global warmy and stuff like that too. Oh the humanity!

Hey idiot, tell me why importing oil from Canada is a bad thing. Tell me why jobs are a bad thing. Tell me why billions in export income is a bad thing. And lastly, tell me why securing our future as regards a dependable petroleum supply, instead of relying on OPEC's whims, is a bad thing. Sound off dummy, or are you completely out of useful idiot ammunition...which is all bullshit anyway.

Oh horseshit. This pipeline creates maybe 30 to 50 jobs watching for leaks, that's it. The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia -- where the market is. It doesn't end up at the Shell station in Dubuque, nor is it in the interest of a profit-centred entity to put it there. That's who the pipeline benefits -- the Exxons and Chevrons.

The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia

Refining jobs, increased profits and increased exports. Better for the economy than anything Obama has done.

Now you're shifting your basis. The premises I corrected were the "thousands of jobs" and "supplying oil to us" canards, neither of which are reality. Now you want to abandon that and note that Big Oil would get the chance to make more money than O'bama.

OK then...

Btw refineries are already maxed. You can't create jobs that are already there. Again, all this does is grease supply routes. In other words, it cuts Big Oil's overhead. That's why they want it.

Everyone that has a 401k account is invested in oil products,or should we pull the rug out from under millions of the little guys as suggested?

 

[Pogo]

Poor useful idiot dot com doesn't have any answers when you corner him outside his box of 20 diminutives and 10 hackneyed anecdotes. That's all the ammunition democrat proles have.

"But...but...," says dot com, "If we import oil from Canada (our biggest oil supplier), then 9% of what we don't use ourselves (at Texaco stations mostly), will be processed into petrochemicals for domestic use and 5% of the total import from Canada for export abroad, and that'll mean 10,000 skilled jobs -chemists, engineers, and many other scietific specialists, and many blue collar jobs as well, and billions in trade income...and ummm...well, that'll just be horrible, and ummm, stoopid...and ummm, nazi and prolly global warmy and stuff like that too. Oh the humanity!

Hey idiot, tell me why importing oil from Canada is a bad thing. Tell me why jobs are a bad thing. Tell me why billions in export income is a bad thing. And lastly, tell me why securing our future as regards a dependable petroleum supply, instead of relying on OPEC's whims, is a bad thing. Sound off dummy, or are you completely out of useful idiot ammunition...which is all bullshit anyway.

Oh horseshit. This pipeline creates maybe 30 to 50 jobs watching for leaks, that's it. The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia -- where the market is. It doesn't end up at the Shell station in Dubuque, nor is it in the interest of a profit-centred entity to put it there. That's who the pipeline benefits -- the Exxons and Chevrons.

The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia

Refining jobs, increased profits and increased exports. Better for the economy than anything Obama has done.

Now you're shifting your basis. The premises I corrected were the "thousands of jobs" and "supplying oil to us" canards, neither of which are reality. Now you want to abandon that and note that Big Oil would get the chance to make more money than O'bama.

OK then...

Btw refineries are already maxed. You can't create jobs that are already there. Again, all this does is grease supply routes. In other words, it cuts Big Oil's overhead. That's why they want it.

You said they were going to ship oil to Texas in order to ship it to China. Wrong direction. If they want to ship to China, pipeline to the Pacific is the way to go.

Btw refineries are already maxed.

I wonder if those refineries could use Canadian oil, instead of Venezuelan?
Would that make our oil supply more or less secure?

You can't create jobs that are already there.

You're right, there is no way we would ever increase capacity and jobs with a cheap, secure source of oil. LOL!

In other words, it cuts Big Oil's overhead.

You're right, we'd never want to increase earnings and dividends for US oil companies, that would reduce Warren Buffett's earnings from shipping oil by train.

Poor useful idiot dot com doesn't have any answers when you corner him outside his box of 20 diminutives and 10 hackneyed anecdotes. That's all the ammunition democrat proles have.

"But...but...," says dot com, "If we import oil from Canada (our biggest oil supplier), then 9% of what we don't use ourselves (at Texaco stations mostly), will be processed into petrochemicals for domestic use and 5% of the total import from Canada for export abroad, and that'll mean 10,000 skilled jobs -chemists, engineers, and many other scietific specialists, and many blue collar jobs as well, and billions in trade income...and ummm...well, that'll just be horrible, and ummm, stoopid...and ummm, nazi and prolly global warmy and stuff like that too. Oh the humanity!

Hey idiot, tell me why importing oil from Canada is a bad thing. Tell me why jobs are a bad thing. Tell me why billions in export income is a bad thing. And lastly, tell me why securing our future as regards a dependable petroleum supply, instead of relying on OPEC's whims, is a bad thing. Sound off dummy, or are you completely out of useful idiot ammunition...which is all bullshit anyway.

Oh horseshit. This pipeline creates maybe 30 to 50 jobs watching for leaks, that's it. The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia -- where the market is. It doesn't end up at the Shell station in Dubuque, nor is it in the interest of a profit-centred entity to put it there. That's who the pipeline benefits -- the Exxons and Chevrons.

The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia

Refining jobs, increased profits and increased exports. Better for the economy than anything Obama has done.

Now you're shifting your basis. The premises I corrected were the "thousands of jobs" and "supplying oil to us" canards, neither of which are reality. Now you want to abandon that and note that Big Oil would get the chance to make more money than O'bama.

OK then...

Btw refineries are already maxed. You can't create jobs that are already there. Again, all this does is grease supply routes. In other words, it cuts Big Oil's overhead. That's why they want it.

Everyone that has a 401k account is invested in oil products,or should we pull the rug out from under millions of the little guys as suggested?

That makes no sense. Again with the deflections. Just admit the original premise was horseshit and we'll move on.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Poor useful idiot dot com doesn't have any answers when you corner him outside his box of 20 diminutives and 10 hackneyed anecdotes. That's all the ammunition democrat proles have.

"But...but...," says dot com, "If we import oil from Canada (our biggest oil supplier), then 9% of what we don't use ourselves (at Texaco stations mostly), will be processed into petrochemicals for domestic use and 5% of the total import from Canada for export abroad, and that'll mean 10,000 skilled jobs -chemists, engineers, and many other scietific specialists, and many blue collar jobs as well, and billions in trade income...and ummm...well, that'll just be horrible, and ummm, stoopid...and ummm, nazi and prolly global warmy and stuff like that too. Oh the humanity!

Hey idiot, tell me why importing oil from Canada is a bad thing. Tell me why jobs are a bad thing. Tell me why billions in export income is a bad thing. And lastly, tell me why securing our future as regards a dependable petroleum supply, instead of relying on OPEC's whims, is a bad thing. Sound off dummy, or are you completely out of useful idiot ammunition...which is all bullshit anyway.

Oh horseshit. This pipeline creates maybe 30 to 50 jobs watching for leaks, that's it. The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia -- where the market is. It doesn't end up at the Shell station in Dubuque, nor is it in the interest of a profit-centred entity to put it there. That's who the pipeline benefits -- the Exxons and Chevrons.

The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia

Refining jobs, increased profits and increased exports. Better for the economy than anything Obama has done.

Now you're shifting your basis. The premises I corrected were the "thousands of jobs" and "supplying oil to us" canards, neither of which are reality. Now you want to abandon that and note that Big Oil would get the chance to make more money than O'bama.

OK then...

Btw refineries are already maxed. You can't create jobs that are already there. Again, all this does is grease supply routes. In other words, it cuts Big Oil's overhead. That's why they want it.

You said they were going to ship oil to Texas in order to ship it to China. Wrong direction. If they want to ship to China, pipeline to the Pacific is the way to go.

Btw refineries are already maxed.

I wonder if those refineries could use Canadian oil, instead of Venezuelan?
Would that make our oil supply more or less secure?

You can't create jobs that are already there.

You're right, there is no way we would ever increase capacity and jobs with a cheap, secure source of oil. LOL!

In other words, it cuts Big Oil's overhead.

You're right, we'd never want to increase earnings and dividends for US oil companies, that would reduce Warren Buffett's earnings from shipping oil by train.

I accept your concessions. Now stop whining.

Pointing out liberal idiocy makes me laugh.
Especially when it involves simple geography.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Oh horseshit. This pipeline creates maybe 30 to 50 jobs watching for leaks, that's it. The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia -- where the market is. It doesn't end up at the Shell station in Dubuque, nor is it in the interest of a profit-centred entity to put it there. That's who the pipeline benefits -- the Exxons and Chevrons.

The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia

Refining jobs, increased profits and increased exports. Better for the economy than anything Obama has done.

Now you're shifting your basis. The premises I corrected were the "thousands of jobs" and "supplying oil to us" canards, neither of which are reality. Now you want to abandon that and note that Big Oil would get the chance to make more money than O'bama.

OK then...

Btw refineries are already maxed. You can't create jobs that are already there. Again, all this does is grease supply routes. In other words, it cuts Big Oil's overhead. That's why they want it.

You said they were going to ship oil to Texas in order to ship it to China. Wrong direction. If they want to ship to China, pipeline to the Pacific is the way to go.

Btw refineries are already maxed.

I wonder if those refineries could use Canadian oil, instead of Venezuelan?
Would that make our oil supply more or less secure?

You can't create jobs that are already there.

You're right, there is no way we would ever increase capacity and jobs with a cheap, secure source of oil. LOL!

In other words, it cuts Big Oil's overhead.

You're right, we'd never want to increase earnings and dividends for US oil companies, that would reduce Warren Buffett's earnings from shipping oil by train.

Poor useful idiot dot com doesn't have any answers when you corner him outside his box of 20 diminutives and 10 hackneyed anecdotes. That's all the ammunition democrat proles have.

"But...but...," says dot com, "If we import oil from Canada (our biggest oil supplier), then 9% of what we don't use ourselves (at Texaco stations mostly), will be processed into petrochemicals for domestic use and 5% of the total import from Canada for export abroad, and that'll mean 10,000 skilled jobs -chemists, engineers, and many other scietific specialists, and many blue collar jobs as well, and billions in trade income...and ummm...well, that'll just be horrible, and ummm, stoopid...and ummm, nazi and prolly global warmy and stuff like that too. Oh the humanity!

Hey idiot, tell me why importing oil from Canada is a bad thing. Tell me why jobs are a bad thing. Tell me why billions in export income is a bad thing. And lastly, tell me why securing our future as regards a dependable petroleum supply, instead of relying on OPEC's whims, is a bad thing. Sound off dummy, or are you completely out of useful idiot ammunition...which is all bullshit anyway.

Oh horseshit. This pipeline creates maybe 30 to 50 jobs watching for leaks, that's it. The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia -- where the market is. It doesn't end up at the Shell station in Dubuque, nor is it in the interest of a profit-centred entity to put it there. That's who the pipeline benefits -- the Exxons and Chevrons.

The product goes, again, to Big Oil who refine it and send it to Asia

Refining jobs, increased profits and increased exports. Better for the economy than anything Obama has done.

Now you're shifting your basis. The premises I corrected were the "thousands of jobs" and "supplying oil to us" canards, neither of which are reality. Now you want to abandon that and note that Big Oil would get the chance to make more money than O'bama.

OK then...

Btw refineries are already maxed. You can't create jobs that are already there. Again, all this does is grease supply routes. In other words, it cuts Big Oil's overhead. That's why they want it.

Everyone that has a 401k account is invested in oil products,or should we pull the rug out from under millions of the little guys as suggested?

That makes no sense. Again with the deflections. Just admit the original premise was horseshit and we'll move on.

Just admit the original premise was horseshit

I admit the premise that crude will be shipped to Texas in order to export that crude to China was horseshit.

 

[Dot Com]

Now you're shifting your basis. The premises I corrected were the "thousands of jobs" and "supplying oil to us" canards, neither of which are reality. Now you want to abandon that and note that Big Oil would get the chance to make more money than O'bama.

OK then...

Btw refineries are already maxed. You can't create jobs that are already there. Again, all this does is grease supply routes. In other words, it cuts Big Oil's overhead. That's why they want it.

^ that

After the IMPORTED pipes are connected, there will only be a handful of permanent jobs associated w/ the sludge transport. Republicorp uses the numbers of people used to connect the pipes together, not the net gain in jobs AFTER its completed.