Temu just raised their prices overnight by like 45%.

[JoeB131]

Right, and that was exactly why the previous administration let so many in. They knew it would be very difficult to get rid of them. Democrats wanted them in the country. They had no desire to control the border. None. We tried to tell you all this, but you fell for the nonsense spewed by the Biden regime.

Actually, Biden deported more people than Trump did in his first term, and Trump is falling behind Biden's deportation numbers on the second go-around.

If you want to stop illegal immigration, then go after the rich white people who hire them.

But blaming people of color for what rich white people are doing to you. It's the Republican way!!!

 

[SweetTea]

Okay, serious discussion time.

Is the purpose of tariffs to create American jobs, or is the purpose to punish China for being China?

It would seem to me that if it was the former, all you are doing is getting countries to move their manufacturing to other countries, which they were already doing because Chinese labor is already too expensive compared to Vietnam or Malaysia.

If the purpose is to punish China, then you should give me a better reason than, "We don't like their form of government!"

The End of the Day, it's rich Americans making that decision to move manufacturing overseas, not the Chinese.

Blaming people of color for what rich white people are doing to you. It's the Republican Way!!!!

The purpose is a little of both. Move some manufacturing back to the US and to punish China for stealing our intellectual property. Yes, Joe, they flat out steal it. That is why they should be punished.

And no, we also don’t need to be supporting Communism. I know it is right down you libs alley, but I can assure you it is not all it is cracked up to be.

Everything to you is about race, but yes, rich white people made the move. That would be rich white Democrats. You don’t seem to understand that the ultra-rich in the US are predominately Democrat, not Republican. You are told over and over to soak the “rich” but what they really want you to do is soak the working “rich”, not the ultra-wealthy Democrats. Minions like yourself fall for the scam.

 

[JoeB131]

The purpose is a little of both. Move some manufacturing back to the US and to punish China for stealing our intellectual property. Yes, Joe, they flat out steal it. That is why they should be punished.

Oh, is that it? Intellectual Property is kind of a joke, isn't it?

And no, we also don’t need to be supporting Communism. I know it is right down you libs alley, but I can assure you it is not all it is cracked up to be.

The Chinese stopped being "Communist" a long time ago. The thing is, China is a technocracy where the most qualified are put in charge. We are a Democracy where we've apparently decided picking a president is about as serious as picking the winner on American Idol.

Everything to you is about race, but yes, rich white people made the move. That would be rich white Democrats. You don’t seem to understand that the ultra-rich in the US are predominately Democrat, not Republican. You are told over and over to soak the “rich” but what they really want you to do is soak the working “rich”, not the ultra-wealthy Democrats. Minions like yourself fall for the scam.

Uh, guy the super-rich WERE predominantly Republican for decades. That some of them realize that the inmates have taken over the GOP asylum is telling of how crazy the GOP has gotten.

The rich need to pay their fair share. I'm willing to give them a pass on the transplant organs, though.

 

[SweetTea]

Oh, is that it? Intellectual Property is kind of a joke, isn't it?

Maybe it is joke to people like you that doesn't understand it, but not to those us who create such property.

The Chinese stopped being "Communist" a long time ago. The thing is, China is a technocracy where the most qualified are put in charge. We are a Democracy where we've apparently decided picking a president is about as serious as picking the winner on American Idol.

You are completely lost in the wilderness. China is Communist. Xi Jinping is not elected. He would starve or flat out kill his people in a nanosecond if given the opportunity, in fact, they have already hinted at starving people rather than relenting to tariffs.

The rich need to pay their fair share. I'm willing to give them a pass on the transplant organs, though.

The "rich" pay more than their fair share. You wouldn't know, because you aren't one of them.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Temu Chinese junk wasn't worth what it was before a 45 percent increase

 

[JoeB131]

Maybe it is joke to people like you that doesn't understand it, but not to those us who create such property.

The people who create stuff are usually under contract and don't profit from their creativity beyond their pay. SO can't get worked up when a rich corporations get ripped off after they ripped off an artist, designer, or engineer who created something.

You are completely lost in the wilderness. China is Communist. Xi Jinping is not elected. He would starve or flat out kill his people in a nanosecond if given the opportunity, in fact, they have already hinted at starving people rather than relenting to tariffs.

I didn't say he was elected. Elections give you Trump and Biden. Meritocracies and technocracies give you the best people.

Your ignorance of Chinese history and it's resistance to foreign abuse is pretty clear.

The "rich" pay more than their fair share. You wouldn't know, because you aren't one of them.

Nor do I want to be. The rich are horrible people.

 

[SweetTea]

The people who create stuff are usually under contract and don't profit from their creativity beyond their pay. SO can't get worked up when a rich corporations get ripped off after they ripped off an artist, designer, or engineer who created something.

They didn’t get ripped off. They agreed to work for a company who paid them a salary and gave them the resources to create things.

Nor do I want to be. The rich are horrible people.

Why? Just for being rich? Virtually every professional sports star is a horrible person? Rich, small business owners are horrible people?

 

[JoeB131]

They didn’t get ripped off. They agreed to work for a company who paid them a salary and gave them the resources to create things.

And heaven forbid working people form unions or change the rules, eh?

The ironic thing is the reason why all that manufacturing went to China was because rich people didn't want to pay Americans a fair wage.

Now the Chinese are kicking our asses in the manufacturing realm, and the very same rich people are whining like stuck pigs.

Why? Just for being rich? Virtually every professional sports star is a horrible person? Rich, small business owners are horrible people?

Mostly. I'm not sure why your side thinks that bringing up sports stars (watching the morning NFL report is sometimes like watching the Crime Blotter) somehow make greed and wealth inequality okay.

 

[SweetTea]

Mostly. I'm not sure why your side thinks that bringing up sports stars (watching the morning NFL report is sometimes like watching the Crime Blotter) somehow make greed and wealth inequality okay.

We bring it up to show the clear hypocrisy of the left. CEOs are overpaid but athletes aren’t, right? People are paid what the people paying them believe they are worth. It is simple. I think it is a little nuts to give a 19-20 year old kid a 33 million dollar signing bonus plus salary, but if that is what the owners think he is worth, then so be it. That young man is rich and thus a horrible person in your eyes as are the even wealthier owners that paid him the millions.

 

[JoeB131]

We bring it up to show the clear hypocrisy of the left. CEOs are overpaid but athletes aren’t, right? People are paid what the people paying them believe they are worth. It is simple. I think it is a little nuts to give a 19-20 year old kid a 33 million dollar signing bonus plus salary, but if that is what the owners think he is worth, then so be it. That young man is rich and thus a horrible person in your eyes as are the even wealthier owners that paid him the millions.

I think athletes are overpaid, too.

But the Athlete isn't fucking over his employees.

A lot of them do engage in horrible behavior, though, such as dog fighting, drugs, wife-beating and once in a while, murder.

 

[gtopa1]

Actually, Biden deported more people than Trump did in his first term, and Trump is falling behind Biden's deportation numbers on the second go-around.

If you want to stop illegal immigration, then go after the rich white people who hire them.

But blaming people of color for what rich white people are doing to you. It's the Republican way!!!

If you want to stop illegal immigration, then go after the rich white people who hire them.

Why do you want to go after DemoKKKrats so much?? lmao. But I do agree with that.

Greg

 

[SweetTea]

I think athletes are overpaid, too.

But the Athlete isn't fucking over his employees.

A lot of them do engage in horrible behavior, though, such as dog fighting, drugs, wife-beating and once in a while, murder.

The CEO of my company doesn’t screw me over in any way. He presides over a company that provides me a very competitive salary, all the tools I need to succeed, great benefits, very generous paid time off and a pleasurable work environment. He makes more than me, but I am ok with that. Sorry you have such bad experiences.

 

[Hollie]

Trump can't make anybody do anything. This you need to earn.

False. He can and does make you a crying, slobbering mess.

 

[JoeB131]

The CEO of my company doesn’t screw me over in any way. He presides over a company that provides me a very competitive salary, all the tools I need to succeed, great benefits, very generous paid time off and a pleasurable work environment. He makes more than me, but I am ok with that. Sorry you have such bad experiences.

Good little sheep. Just keep grazing.