Tax cuts do not cost anything. Nor do they need to be "paid for"

[mamooth]

There is not enough money in the United States if you taxed 100% of everything everyone owns, you would not even put a dent in the debt. shit for brains
It's far too large to be able to pay back

Clinton was able to run a surplus. We certainly could have paid it back if we had kept running that surplus. Bush fixed that.

 

[Rustic]

There is not enough money in the United States if you taxed 100% of everything everyone owns, you would not even put a dent in the debt. shit for brains
It's far too large to be able to pay back

Clinton was able to run a surplus. We certainly could have paid it back if we had kept running that surplus. Bush fixed that.

Can you progressives be any more retarded? Debt has been ever present for decades... lol

where the **** is the surplus asswipe?

 

[mamooth]

Can you progressives be any more retarded? Debt has been ever present for decades... lol

where the **** is the surplus asswipe?

Wow. You're such an imbecile, you literally don't know the difference between "debt" and "deficit". I'd heard that people who are that stupid exist, but I'd never encountered one before.

Oh, the other conservatives want you to go away, because you're embarrassing them so badly.

(And the sad thing is, your vote counts as much as a normal person's.)

 

[Rustic]

Can you progressives be any more retarded? Debt has been ever present for decades... lol

where the **** is the surplus asswipe?

Wow. You're such an imbecile, you literally don't know the difference between "debt" and "deficit". I'd heard that people who are that stupid exist, but I'd never encountered one before.

Oh, the other conservatives want you to go away, because you're embarrassing them so badly.

(And the sad thing is, your vote counts as much as a normal person's.)

All that matters is debt, the country has been not living within its means for decades.
And progressives/socialists/deadbeats cannot expect the prosperous and successful to fit the bill. Socialism has totally fucked this country over and up, they the entitled nanny state people think they can expect other people to take care of them - **** that! **** that! **** that!
Lol

 

[Montrovant]

If the goal is reducing government, tax cuts are a mistake. We should raise taxes, across the board, until the budget balances. Then we can have an honest discussion about how much government we really want.

True. When government says you can have big bennies without paying for them, as Bush did and as Trump is doing, people demand more of those freebies. When you make it clear that freebies aren't free, people want less of them.

There is not enough money in the United States if you taxed 100% of everything everyone owns, you would not even put a dent in the debt. shit for brains
It's far too large to be able to pay back

Where do you get that idea? I've seen US GDP for 2015 estimated at a bit over $18 trillion.

United States GDP | 1960-2017 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast | News

 

[Rustic]

If the goal is reducing government, tax cuts are a mistake. We should raise taxes, across the board, until the budget balances. Then we can have an honest discussion about how much government we really want.

True. When government says you can have big bennies without paying for them, as Bush did and as Trump is doing, people demand more of those freebies. When you make it clear that freebies aren't free, people want less of them.

There is not enough money in the United States if you taxed 100% of everything everyone owns, you would not even put a dent in the debt. shit for brains
It's far too large to be able to pay back

Where do you get that idea? I've seen US GDP for 2015 estimated at a bit over $18 trillion.

United States GDP | 1960-2017 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast | News

If you take the debt and the unfunded liabilities which are debt - the debt is north of $225 trillion dollars

 

[Montrovant]

Can you progressives be any more retarded? Debt has been ever present for decades... lol

where the **** is the surplus asswipe?

Wow. You're such an imbecile, you literally don't know the difference between "debt" and "deficit". I'd heard that people who are that stupid exist, but I'd never encountered one before.

Oh, the other conservatives want you to go away, because you're embarrassing them so badly.

(And the sad thing is, your vote counts as much as a normal person's.)

All that matters is debt, the country has been not living within its means for decades.
And progressives/socialists/deadbeats cannot expect the prosperous and successful to fit the bill. Socialism has totally fucked this country over and up, they the entitled nanny state people think they can expect other people to take care of them - **** that! **** that! **** that!
Lol

While debt might be "all that matters," it is deficits which create and continue that debt. A surplus allows the debt to be reduced. I'm certainly far from an economist, but these seem like fairly simple concepts. Deficit = spending more than is taken in. Surplus = spending less than is taken in. Debt = total amount owed.

There most certainly can be both a surplus during a given year or given period of years while still having debt. The surplus must equal or exceed the amount of debt to get rid of it. This country could run a surplus for the next decade, or century, and not eliminate the debt, if the surplus were not large enough.

 

[Rustic]

Can you progressives be any more retarded? Debt has been ever present for decades... lol

where the **** is the surplus asswipe?

Wow. You're such an imbecile, you literally don't know the difference between "debt" and "deficit". I'd heard that people who are that stupid exist, but I'd never encountered one before.

Oh, the other conservatives want you to go away, because you're embarrassing them so badly.

(And the sad thing is, your vote counts as much as a normal person's.)

All that matters is debt, the country has been not living within its means for decades.
And progressives/socialists/deadbeats cannot expect the prosperous and successful to fit the bill. Socialism has totally fucked this country over and up, they the entitled nanny state people think they can expect other people to take care of them - **** that! **** that! **** that!
Lol

While debt might be "all that matters," it is deficits which create and continue that debt. A surplus allows the debt to be reduced. I'm certainly far from an economist, but these seem like fairly simple concepts. Deficit = spending more than is taken in. Surplus = spending less than is taken in. Debt = total amount owed.

There most certainly can be both a surplus during a given year or given period of years while still having debt. The surplus must equal or exceed the amount of debt to get rid of it. This country could run a surplus for the next decade, or century, and not eliminate the debt, if the surplus were not large enough.

Until there is no doubt, there is no surplus… Fact

 

[Montrovant]

If the goal is reducing government, tax cuts are a mistake. We should raise taxes, across the board, until the budget balances. Then we can have an honest discussion about how much government we really want.

True. When government says you can have big bennies without paying for them, as Bush did and as Trump is doing, people demand more of those freebies. When you make it clear that freebies aren't free, people want less of them.

There is not enough money in the United States if you taxed 100% of everything everyone owns, you would not even put a dent in the debt. shit for brains
It's far too large to be able to pay back

Where do you get that idea? I've seen US GDP for 2015 estimated at a bit over $18 trillion.

United States GDP | 1960-2017 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast | News

If you take the debt and the unfunded liabilities which are debt - the debt is north of $225 trillion dollars

It is my understanding that the $200+ trillion number is based on future spending and governmental income, not current numbers. The unfunded liabilities are based on something called an infinite-horizon financial gap. I'm perfectly willing to believe that, based on current spending, debt, tax laws, etc., that the debt will reach that total, but I don't believe it can be considered current debt.

 

[Montrovant]

Can you progressives be any more retarded? Debt has been ever present for decades... lol

where the **** is the surplus asswipe?

Wow. You're such an imbecile, you literally don't know the difference between "debt" and "deficit". I'd heard that people who are that stupid exist, but I'd never encountered one before.

Oh, the other conservatives want you to go away, because you're embarrassing them so badly.

(And the sad thing is, your vote counts as much as a normal person's.)

All that matters is debt, the country has been not living within its means for decades.
And progressives/socialists/deadbeats cannot expect the prosperous and successful to fit the bill. Socialism has totally fucked this country over and up, they the entitled nanny state people think they can expect other people to take care of them - **** that! **** that! **** that!
Lol

While debt might be "all that matters," it is deficits which create and continue that debt. A surplus allows the debt to be reduced. I'm certainly far from an economist, but these seem like fairly simple concepts. Deficit = spending more than is taken in. Surplus = spending less than is taken in. Debt = total amount owed.

There most certainly can be both a surplus during a given year or given period of years while still having debt. The surplus must equal or exceed the amount of debt to get rid of it. This country could run a surplus for the next decade, or century, and not eliminate the debt, if the surplus were not large enough.

Until there is no doubt, there is no surplus… Fact

A) I assume you mean debt rather than doubt.

B) That is a fact only if you define surplus as a total, rather than yearly. I believe it is generally used as a descriptor for yearly budgets, the opposite of a deficit.

 

[Rustic]

If the goal is reducing government, tax cuts are a mistake. We should raise taxes, across the board, until the budget balances. Then we can have an honest discussion about how much government we really want.

True. When government says you can have big bennies without paying for them, as Bush did and as Trump is doing, people demand more of those freebies. When you make it clear that freebies aren't free, people want less of them.

There is not enough money in the United States if you taxed 100% of everything everyone owns, you would not even put a dent in the debt. shit for brains
It's far too large to be able to pay back

Where do you get that idea? I've seen US GDP for 2015 estimated at a bit over $18 trillion.

United States GDP | 1960-2017 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast | News

If you take the debt and the unfunded liabilities which are debt - the debt is north of $225 trillion dollars

It is my understanding that the $200+ trillion number is based on future spending and governmental income, not current numbers. The unfunded liabilities are based on something called an infinite-horizon financial gap. I'm perfectly willing to believe that, based on current spending, debt, tax laws, etc., that the debt will reach that total, but I don't believe it can be considered current debt.

I would say the debt is going to get even worse than expected, many times over because of the federal government/career politicians they always overspend. Less people are putting less in and more people are taking more out of socialist entitlement programs....

 

[Rustic]

Can you progressives be any more retarded? Debt has been ever present for decades... lol

where the **** is the surplus asswipe?

Wow. You're such an imbecile, you literally don't know the difference between "debt" and "deficit". I'd heard that people who are that stupid exist, but I'd never encountered one before.

Oh, the other conservatives want you to go away, because you're embarrassing them so badly.

(And the sad thing is, your vote counts as much as a normal person's.)

All that matters is debt, the country has been not living within its means for decades.
And progressives/socialists/deadbeats cannot expect the prosperous and successful to fit the bill. Socialism has totally fucked this country over and up, they the entitled nanny state people think they can expect other people to take care of them - **** that! **** that! **** that!
Lol

While debt might be "all that matters," it is deficits which create and continue that debt. A surplus allows the debt to be reduced. I'm certainly far from an economist, but these seem like fairly simple concepts. Deficit = spending more than is taken in. Surplus = spending less than is taken in. Debt = total amount owed.

There most certainly can be both a surplus during a given year or given period of years while still having debt. The surplus must equal or exceed the amount of debt to get rid of it. This country could run a surplus for the next decade, or century, and not eliminate the debt, if the surplus were not large enough.

Until there is no doubt, there is no surplus… Fact

A) I assume you mean debt rather than doubt.

B) That is a fact only if you define surplus as a total, rather than yearly. I believe it is generally used as a descriptor for yearly budgets, the opposite of a deficit.

If I have $1 and I spent $1000 where does that put me?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Wow. You're such an imbecile, you literally don't know the difference between "debt" and "deficit". I'd heard that people who are that stupid exist, but I'd never encountered one before.

Oh, the other conservatives want you to go away, because you're embarrassing them so badly.

(And the sad thing is, your vote counts as much as a normal person's.)

All that matters is debt, the country has been not living within its means for decades.
And progressives/socialists/deadbeats cannot expect the prosperous and successful to fit the bill. Socialism has totally fucked this country over and up, they the entitled nanny state people think they can expect other people to take care of them - **** that! **** that! **** that!
Lol

While debt might be "all that matters," it is deficits which create and continue that debt. A surplus allows the debt to be reduced. I'm certainly far from an economist, but these seem like fairly simple concepts. Deficit = spending more than is taken in. Surplus = spending less than is taken in. Debt = total amount owed.

There most certainly can be both a surplus during a given year or given period of years while still having debt. The surplus must equal or exceed the amount of debt to get rid of it. This country could run a surplus for the next decade, or century, and not eliminate the debt, if the surplus were not large enough.

Until there is no doubt, there is no surplus… Fact

A) I assume you mean debt rather than doubt.

B) That is a fact only if you define surplus as a total, rather than yearly. I believe it is generally used as a descriptor for yearly budgets, the opposite of a deficit.

If I have $1 and I spent $1000 where does that put me?

Two bilions of dollars Richer.. according to the left..


.

 

[Montrovant]

Wow. You're such an imbecile, you literally don't know the difference between "debt" and "deficit". I'd heard that people who are that stupid exist, but I'd never encountered one before.

Oh, the other conservatives want you to go away, because you're embarrassing them so badly.

(And the sad thing is, your vote counts as much as a normal person's.)

All that matters is debt, the country has been not living within its means for decades.
And progressives/socialists/deadbeats cannot expect the prosperous and successful to fit the bill. Socialism has totally fucked this country over and up, they the entitled nanny state people think they can expect other people to take care of them - **** that! **** that! **** that!
Lol

While debt might be "all that matters," it is deficits which create and continue that debt. A surplus allows the debt to be reduced. I'm certainly far from an economist, but these seem like fairly simple concepts. Deficit = spending more than is taken in. Surplus = spending less than is taken in. Debt = total amount owed.

There most certainly can be both a surplus during a given year or given period of years while still having debt. The surplus must equal or exceed the amount of debt to get rid of it. This country could run a surplus for the next decade, or century, and not eliminate the debt, if the surplus were not large enough.

Until there is no doubt, there is no surplus… Fact

A) I assume you mean debt rather than doubt.

B) That is a fact only if you define surplus as a total, rather than yearly. I believe it is generally used as a descriptor for yearly budgets, the opposite of a deficit.

If I have $1 and I spent $1000 where does that put me?

Again, surplus is a word which, when it comes to government spending, seems to be used as a yearly term. There can be a budget surplus or a budget deficit. I don't know why the terms have evolved to be used as they are.

 

[sakinago]

If the goal is reducing government, tax cuts are a mistake. We should raise taxes, across the board, until the budget balances. Then we can have an honest discussion about how much government we really want.

True. When government says you can have big bennies without paying for them, as Bush did and as Trump is doing, people demand more of those freebies. When you make it clear that freebies aren't free, people want less of them.

But let's keep on voting for subsidies, benifits, welfare, pensions we can't afford in the first place then charge American citizens for it, wether they use them or not, to teach Americans how much it is actually costing them. Yayy!! Free college for everyone...except for the part where we raise taxes on everyone!! The mental gymnastics here are something to admire.

 

[dblack]

From what I've read, the Republican tax plan is supposed to be "revenue-neutral", which means it's not actually a tax cut anyway.

 

[sakinago]

If the goal is reducing government, tax cuts are a mistake. We should raise taxes, across the board, until the budget balances. Then we can have an honest discussion about how much government we really want.

True. When government says you can have big bennies without paying for them, as Bush did and as Trump is doing, people demand more of those freebies. When you make it clear that freebies aren't free, people want less of them.

Notice how mamooth seems to think obama never did anything of the sort? The hypocrisy is amazing.

 

[dblack]

If the goal is reducing government, tax cuts are a mistake. We should raise taxes, across the board, until the budget balances. Then we can have an honest discussion about how much government we really want.

True. When government says you can have big bennies without paying for them, as Bush did and as Trump is doing, people demand more of those freebies. When you make it clear that freebies aren't free, people want less of them.

But let's keep on voting for subsidies, benifits, welfare, pensions we can't afford in the first place then charge American citizens for it, wether they use them or not, to teach Americans how much it is actually costing them. Yayy!! Free college for everyone...except for the part where we raise taxes on everyone!! The mental gymnastics here are something to admire.

The point is to stop "voting for subsidies, benifits, welfare, pensions we can't afford". That isn't going to happen if no one is actually paying the bills. There's simply no incentive to pinch pennies when you're using someone else's credit card.

 

[danielpalos]

There is not enough money in the United States if you taxed 100% of everything everyone owns, you would not even put a dent in the debt. shit for brains
It's far too large to be able to pay back

Clinton was able to run a surplus. We certainly could have paid it back if we had kept running that surplus. Bush fixed that.

Can you progressives be any more retarded? Debt has been ever present for decades... lol

where the **** is the surplus asswipe?

They had wartime tax rates, before.

 

[danielpalos]

Can you progressives be any more retarded? Debt has been ever present for decades... lol

where the **** is the surplus asswipe?

Wow. You're such an imbecile, you literally don't know the difference between "debt" and "deficit". I'd heard that people who are that stupid exist, but I'd never encountered one before.

Oh, the other conservatives want you to go away, because you're embarrassing them so badly.

(And the sad thing is, your vote counts as much as a normal person's.)

All that matters is debt, the country has been not living within its means for decades.
And progressives/socialists/deadbeats cannot expect the prosperous and successful to fit the bill. Socialism has totally fucked this country over and up, they the entitled nanny state people think they can expect other people to take care of them - **** that! **** that! **** that!
Lol

end the drug war, right winger; we don't need a nanny State with the other Peoples' tax monies.