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Wow, frankly, sounds like MOST boys about that age.

He was shot after a stranger stalked him and cornered him. At no time did ZImmerman identify himself as Neighborhood Watch and the police specifically told him NOT to follow the person.

But don't worry, whenever a racist shoots a black Child, Racist from Cleveland will be there to defend it.
He didn't corner anybody. Martin outran him like he was standing still. He could have went home, went to the store and back, and Zimmerman couldn't get near him. No, the police did not tell Zimmerman not to follow him, a dispatcher did. A dispatcher has no more authority over a person than the guy that asks you if you want to supersize your happy meal.

But since I intensely studied the situation and you didn't, the dispatcher didn't tell Zimmerman to do anything. He just said the police didn't need him following Martin. On the recording, you can hear Zimmerman stop running. His voice returned to it's normal quiet tone, his panting stopped. He did stop chasing after Martin.

Martin ran and hid behind the houses. He waited until Zimmerman was off the phone before he attacked because he probably suspected he was talking with police.


Yes, Race Relations got worse when it was clearly you racists lost your shit over the black guy being in there.
What? Oh come on man. Are you some kind of junkie or something?

The only people to bring up race during his two terms were you guys--not us.
 

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But since I intensely studied the situation and you didn't,
Yeah, buddy, you always have some lame ass excuse when a racist shoots a black child...

Point was, he had no business following that kid with a gun.

The only people to bring up race during his two terms were you guys--not us.
You're STILL upset about Obama.

Trust me, once Trump is gone in November, I won't give him another thought.
 
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Yeah, buddy, you always have some lame ass excuse when a racist shoots a black child...

Point was, he had no business following that kid with a gun.
He followed him for a short time to try and assist police when they got there. There is no law against following somebody. Now even Hispanics are racist to you, huh? Well then would you please explain why this racist took a black girl to his high school prom?

Yes, I do stand behind people who use guns to protect themselves when they are violently attacked. It's why I carry one from time to time. If you don't want to take a chance at being shot or killed, don't act like an animal and attack people unless you're in a Democrat city and state where it's permitted.

You're STILL upset about Obama.

Trust me, once Trump is gone in November, I won't give him another thought.
Why wouldn't I still be upset with DumBama? He caused me the most personal and financial harm than all other Presidents combined in my life. I absolutely have every right to hate him and wish the worst on him.

I hope your prepared not to give him another thought for at least four more years.
 

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The new theme of the left today is systemic racism. Systemic racism of course means that racism is intrinsic in the system itself. The question is, why is this fathom systemic racism only happening in Democrat strongholds?

We were told that racism would end with the election of Barack Obama. After 8 years, not only were there no improvements, but things (according to the left) got worse.

Under Donald Trump as President, minorities seen record levels of employment for every group, that was until the Wuhan virus. More black businesses were opening up, black Americans seen higher income, and black government dependency on the decline. Prison reform under President Trump. So why is this systemic racism transcending now?

It's to create a political environment. Even though all this so-called racism is taking place in Democrat cities and states, the implication is that it's all happening under Republican leadership, however the feds have little control over what these Democrat cities and states do. President Trump has offered help to these clueless Democrat leaders, but so far, none have accepted his offers.

Systemic racism does exist of course, and has for many years. The idea of bringing in foreigners to do the jobs American minorities could be doing is systematic itself under Democrat leadership. Keeping wages lower for minorities because of these actions the same. The fight against school vouchers, which gave many minorities school choice is certainly systematic. Now the movement is to defund police departments which would have the most negative ramifications on minority communities. Something new to add to this system.

If there is indeed systemic racism, then it's actually happening from the left and not the right.
Althoug I think and it's very evident without any doubt that trump's base are mostly racist...I don't think there is a systematic racism in the US....If I made it as a Muslim/arab/African in the US anyone can...the only trick I was told before I moved here, and pretty much most immigrants know, is to avoid red areas. In fact back home many students avoid applying for schools in red states.
Texas is a Red State with high amount of Students from around the World, can you kindly explain why Africans, Persians, Asians and so on flock to this State seeing according to your bigoted view it should be avoided?
Very good question...because most of those colleges are in blue areas/cities.
 

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The new theme of the left today is systemic racism. Systemic racism of course means that racism is intrinsic in the system itself. The question is, why is this fathom systemic racism only happening in Democrat strongholds?

We were told that racism would end with the election of Barack Obama. After 8 years, not only were there no improvements, but things (according to the left) got worse.

Under Donald Trump as President, minorities seen record levels of employment for every group, that was until the Wuhan virus. More black businesses were opening up, black Americans seen higher income, and black government dependency on the decline. Prison reform under President Trump. So why is this systemic racism transcending now?

It's to create a political environment. Even though all this so-called racism is taking place in Democrat cities and states, the implication is that it's all happening under Republican leadership, however the feds have little control over what these Democrat cities and states do. President Trump has offered help to these clueless Democrat leaders, but so far, none have accepted his offers.

Systemic racism does exist of course, and has for many years. The idea of bringing in foreigners to do the jobs American minorities could be doing is systematic itself under Democrat leadership. Keeping wages lower for minorities because of these actions the same. The fight against school vouchers, which gave many minorities school choice is certainly systematic. Now the movement is to defund police departments which would have the most negative ramifications on minority communities. Something new to add to this system.

If there is indeed systemic racism, then it's actually happening from the left and not the right.
Althoug I think and it's very evident without any doubt that trump's base are mostly racist...I don't think there is a systematic racism in the US....If I made it as a Muslim/arab/African in the US anyone can...the only trick I was told before I moved here, and pretty much most immigrants know, is to avoid red areas. In fact back home many students avoid applying for schools in red states.
Texas is a Red State with high amount of Students from around the World, can you kindly explain why Africans, Persians, Asians and so on flock to this State seeing according to your bigoted view it should be avoided?
What they didn't tell him was that it's the blue areas that have the most violent crime. The red areas are much less to worry about. I don't know what kind of friends he had back home, but if my friends told me to move to a high crime area in another country, they really are not true friends of mine.
Show me one big city in the world that has less crime than a less populated country small town.
 

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Yeah, buddy, you always have some lame ass excuse when a racist shoots a black child...

Point was, he had no business following that kid with a gun.
There is no law against following somebody.
That's not true, it depends on the state you're in. For example

In Pennsylvania, the general harassment law includes a variety of actions. The following prohibited conduct is relevant to street harassment, if done with intent to harass, annoy or alarm another:​
* Following someone in or about a public place
 

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He followed him for a short time to try and assist police when they got there. There is no law against following somebody. Now even Hispanics are racist to you, huh? Well then would you please explain why this racist took a black girl to his high school prom?
He also raped his cousin, the fine outstanding person he was.

Yes, I do stand behind people who use guns to protect themselves when they are violently attacked. It's why I carry one from time to time. If you don't want to take a chance at being shot or killed, don't act like an animal and attack people unless you're in a Democrat city and state where it's permitted.
Like I said, Ray, you are a Hate Crime looking for a place to happen.

Why wouldn't I still be upset with DumBama? He caused me the most personal and financial harm than all other Presidents combined in my life. I absolutely have every right to hate him and wish the worst on him.
Obama was responsible for all your bad life choices?
 

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But since I intensely studied the situation and you didn't,
Yeah, buddy, you always have some lame ass excuse when a racist shoots a black child...

Point was, he had no business following that kid with a gun.

The only people to bring up race during his two terms were you guys--not us.
You're STILL upset about Obama.

Trust me, once Trump is gone in November, I won't give him another thought.
Zimmermann may have been convicted of a lesser sentence. The prosecutors went with the maximum counts. Perhaps because Obama was chiming in. We will never know now.
 

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Zimmermann may have been convicted of a lesser sentence. The prosecutors went with the maximum counts. Perhaps because Obama was chiming in. We will never know now.
Actually, if they had people of color on his jury, and the cops did their jobs and investigated, he would have been in prison where he belongs.

Eventually, this shithead will hurt someone else, and he'll end up there anyway.
 

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Why not. Republicans are evidently responsible for your lack of success and inability to rise out of the lower middle class.
I've had plenty of success, thank you.

but you see, most of the setbacks I've had was because the Republicans have brought us the last five recessions...

It's not a bug, it's a design feature.

But I'm sure that you are happy living in your trailer park in your state you won''t name because you know I'll point out that it's practically a third world country.
 

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No, you are a broke loser who promotes thugs and promotes stealing money from people who earn it.
Actually, I'm doing fine. I own two properties, and my business is booming. But thanks for asking.

Point is, if the majority IS poor, then socialism becomes inevitable. You can only fool the trailer park trash so long into thinking their double wide is slightly nicer.
 

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You can only fool the trailer park trash so long into thinking their double wide is slightly nicer.
We've been through this. I am more successful than you. Unless you had a huge inheritance, won the lotto or made some extremely good investments, my standard of living is undoubtedly multitudes higher than yours based on your salary and the fact that you live in a high tax, blue state. I don't have to convince educated, wealthy neighbors of anything. They are smart enough to know NOT to vote for Democrats and are quite proud to place Trump signs in their primary home's front yards and hang Trump flags from their multi-million dollar vacation lake homes. You are a minion. You are a lemming. You will never reach the top rung in this country because you attitude is counter-productive. I am surprised and happy for you that you have been able to at least put a roof over your head, given your obvious deficiencies.
 

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The problem is that Racism has been proven, time and time again. The reality is that the Law and Order folks explain it away.


It was discovered that Blacks were more likely to be pulled over in daylight. Oddly enough, once night fell Blacks were no more likely to be pulled over. Whites drove more but were pulled over less. The argument that Blacks were worse drivers or more likely to speed or drive recklessly does not explain the lower rates of being pulled over at night. Are the Blacks more likely to drive within the law at night?

Blacks were more likely to be searched. Yet, Whites were more likely to have contraband in their cars. Somehow this statistical reality did not change the focus of police searches. The Police continued to search Blacks more despite a lower probability of finding contraband.

It goes on and on. So we have demonstrable proof of Racism in the most common police interaction, the traffic stop. How about the actions of the courts? Blacks normally get stiffer sentences than whites when found guilty. Similar criminal histories does not result in similar sentences. So if you eliminate the nonsense, you are left with Racism.

It goes on and on and on. Yet those who are demanding Law and Order never demand all of the laws. They detest the idea of the Constitution actually demanding that people are given equal treatment and equal opportunity.

So yes, there is systemic racism.
 

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Unless you had a huge inheritance, won the lotto or made some extremely good investments, my standard of living is undoubtedly multitudes higher than yours
Real rich people don't brag about how much money they have...because they don't need to.

Again, until you fess up and tell me what state you live in, I'm not taking anything you say seriously about your "Affluence"
 

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Unless you had a huge inheritance, won the lotto or made some extremely good investments, my standard of living is undoubtedly multitudes higher than yours
Real rich people don't brag about how much money they have...because they don't need to.

Again, until you fess up and tell me what state you live in, I'm not taking anything you say seriously about your "Affluence"
What does my state have to do with it? If I named the poorest state in the country(in which I don't live), that wouldn't preclude my success. The fact is, my town has an average income higher than the average income in one of the wealthiest suburbs of Chicago, with a much lower cost of living.

I don't really care if you believe me. I just get irritated with you acting as if I live in a trailer park and am destitute. You act as if that is the picture of the Republican party, when in fact, as wages increase, so does the likelihood of a person voting Republican. In other words, the more successful, the more likely you are to be a Republican. You don't like those facts, but those are the facts.
 

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What does my state have to do with it? If I named the poorest state in the country(in which I don't live), that wouldn't preclude my success. The fact is, my town has an average income higher than the average income in one of the wealthiest suburbs of Chicago, with a much lower cost of living.
The fact you are ashamed to admit which one it is, says a lot. being better off in a poor state isnothing to be proud of... You could move to a third world country and be a tycoon.
 
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The problem is that Racism has been proven, time and time again. The reality is that the Law and Order folks explain it away.


It was discovered that Blacks were more likely to be pulled over in daylight. Oddly enough, once night fell Blacks were no more likely to be pulled over. Whites drove more but were pulled over less. The argument that Blacks were worse drivers or more likely to speed or drive recklessly does not explain the lower rates of being pulled over at night. Are the Blacks more likely to drive within the law at night?

Blacks were more likely to be searched. Yet, Whites were more likely to have contraband in their cars. Somehow this statistical reality did not change the focus of police searches. The Police continued to search Blacks more despite a lower probability of finding contraband.

It goes on and on. So we have demonstrable proof of Racism in the most common police interaction, the traffic stop. How about the actions of the courts? Blacks normally get stiffer sentences than whites when found guilty. Similar criminal histories does not result in similar sentences. So if you eliminate the nonsense, you are left with Racism.

It goes on and on and on. Yet those who are demanding Law and Order never demand all of the laws. They detest the idea of the Constitution actually demanding that people are given equal treatment and equal opportunity.

So yes, there is systemic racism.
I'm getting a privacy warning message on my browser for that site so I'm not going to read it, but I'll comment anyway.

Most of these studies leave a lot of factors out. As a retired professional driver, I can tell you blacks are terrible drivers overall. We have a very large industrial section in a suburb of Cleveland called Solon Ohio. There the city had to install miles of sidewalks when blacks started working there because of the pedestrian traffic. Prior to that, everybody drove and nobody walked on the streets. Blacks often can't drive or lose their license because of traffic offenses.

Judges sentence subjects based on much more than just the crime itself. They go by criminal records, how the suspect interacted with authorities, how they respect the court or show remorse for their actions.

I was subpoenaed to court as a witness in a motor vehicle accident. Prior to the case being heard, we met in the judges chambers with the police. The judge wanted to know the conduct of the person (who was black) asked me to concur what the officers told him about his unruly behavior. I told the judge I was surprised the officer didn't call for backup since the offender was getting so verbally violent, calling the officer a racist, calling me a racist, and even calling workers at a nearby pizza shop racist simply because they didn't witness the accident.

In court the punk was shaking his head back and forth. He was dressed like he was going to a job in the sewer business. He was rolling his eyes as the case was heard. The judge had no mercy on that guy. He was disrespectful to the officer, disrespectful in the court, so based on those factors, the judge cut him no slack.

This has been an ongoing discussion for years, so I asked a friend of mine in the court system downtown if there was any evidence of blacks getting tougher sentences for the same crimes as whites. He said no study has ever been done, but in his personal opinion, he has seen it happen. But guess what? The stiffer sentences handed down to black criminals were done by black judges.

That makes perfect sense too. If a white judge had an angst against blacks, the worst thing he or she could do is release these criminals back into their black society. A black judge on the other hand has an interest in cleaning up black communities. He or she may live in those very communities, or have family members that do. The best thing they can to is put away the troublemakers for as long as they can.
 

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I'm getting a privacy warning message on my browser for that site so I'm not going to read it, but I'll comment anyway.
Wow, is that your new go-to excuse for facts you don't like. Do you have one of those "reality" browsers?

Most of these studies leave a lot of factors out. As a retired professional driver, I can tell you blacks are terrible drivers overall.
Tell us again how not racist you are, Ray. That shit never gets old.
 

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