Swifties vs Teamsters.

[daveman]

a. First let's see your side decrease spending.
b. And it can't be on social security and medicare
c. Can't do it with austerity cuts alone. We need to raise THEIR taxes. Or, roll their tax breaks back to pre Reagan. Deal?

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The rich are already paying more than their fair share. They're probably paying your share, too.

These income and tax-burden breakdowns come from information reported on 2019 individual income tax returns. Income categories are based on AGI, which is basically income from taxable sources minus certain deductions — including deductible contributions to traditional IRAs and HSAs, alimony paid and student loan interest — but before subtracting either the standard deduction or itemized deductions. Check out the table below to get an overhead view of who pays what when it comes to federal income taxes.

Income Category	2019 AGI	Percent of AllIncome	Percent of IncomeTaxes Paid
Top 1%	Over $546,434	20.14%	38.77%
Top 5%	Over $221,572	35.93%	59.44%
Top 10%	Over $154,589	47.30%	70.81%
Top 25%	Over $87,917	68.82%	86.65%
Top 50%	Over $44,269	88.51%	96.94%
Bottom 50%	Below $44,269	11.49%	3.06%

 

[daveman]

Suddenly you support union workers? It took Trump to get you to do it. Welcome to our side. I support the teamsters too. Know who doesn't? Trump and Elon Musk. They'd fire workers who went on strike.

 

[sealybobo]

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The saudis gave Jared 2000 million dollars.

Oprah didn’t even make the list this year stupid.

Not all rich people are greedy republicans

 

[daveman]

The saudis gave Jared 2000 million dollars.

Oprah didn’t even make the list this year stupid.

Not all rich people are greedy republicans

I see. Rich Republicans got that way by kicking puppies and working children in dimly-lit factories.

Rich Democrats got that way because angels saw how good they are and gave them Heaven money.

I'd ask if you see how stupid you sound, but no, you don't.

 

[sealybobo]

I see. Rich Republicans got that way by kicking puppies and working children in dimly-lit factories.

Rich Democrats got that way because angels saw how good they are and gave them Heaven money.

I'd ask if you see how stupid you sound, but no, you don't.

Oprah doesn’t have factories destroying the planet.

Taylor fights monopolies like ticket master.

Two good women

 

[daveman]

Oprah doesn’t have factories destroying the planet.

Taylor fights monopolies like ticket master.

Two good women

They both fly around in private jets. They want you to stop driving a gasoline-powered car.

You leftists sure do love the people who exploit you.

 

[sealybobo]

They both fly around in private jets. They want you to stop driving a gasoline-powered car.

You leftists sure do love the people who exploit you.

Some things have to be regulated. You can’t expect people to just do the right thing. Take for example trumps made in China bibles. The government needs to tariff Chinese bibles 100% to force Americans like trump to do the right thing and buy american.

I hear too many republicans in the real world who are pro green technology. Science deniers is just political bs

 

[daveman]

Some things have to be regulated. You can’t expect people to just do the right thing. Take for example trumps made in China bibles. The government needs to tariff Chinese bibles 100% to force Americans like trump to do the right thing and buy american.

I hear too many republicans in the real world who are pro green technology. Science deniers is just political bs

Ahhh. Many, many people throughout history have been oppressed "for their own good".

C.S. Lewis had something to say about that.

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

 

[Blaster]

Rank and file Teamsters heavily support Trump.

 

[sealybobo]

Ahhh. Many, many people throughout history have been oppressed "for their own good".

C.S. Lewis had something to say about that.

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

Tell Trump. He says he's going to tariff imports 100%. That will FORCE you to buy American

Trump is guilty himself. Don't you see? He could have purchased bibles that were made in America. Why didn't he? Because Chinese bibles are cheaper. So even your "buy American" candidate won't buy American unless he is forced to.

And he's talking about forcing you, and himself, by imposing tariffs. So the guy you like says he's going to oppress you, and himself.

 

[daveman]

Tell Trump. He says he's going to tariff imports 100%. That will FORCE you to buy American

Trump is guilty himself. Don't you see? He could have purchased bibles that were made in America. Why didn't he? Because Chinese bibles are cheaper. So even your "buy American" candidate won't buy American unless he is forced to.

And he's talking about forcing you, and himself, by imposing tariffs. So the guy you like says he's going to oppress you, and himself.

I'm perfectly fine with buying America. Leave it to a leftist to insist it's a bad thing.

 

[sealybobo]

I'm perfectly fine with buying America. Leave it to a leftist to insist it's a bad thing.

Trump refuses to buy American. Even as he campaigns that he's going to tariff Chinese imports 100%, he chose to buy Chinese. It makes him smart right?

This is what I'm trying to tell you but you won't listen. This is why you can't ask Al Gore to sell his 5 homes or not fly on private jets. We can't fix the problem by hoping everyone does the right thing. Look at Trump. He could have easily found bibles that were made in America. But unless Trump is FORCED to buy American, he won't. That's why Trump will tariff Trump products 100% when he wins. Do you believe that?

 

[sealybobo]

I'm perfectly fine with buying America. Leave it to a leftist to insist it's a bad thing.

You clearly missed the point. YOU are perfectly fine with buying America. But your candidate isn't.

Hypocrisy is a bad thing. So is ignorance.

 

[daveman]

Trump refuses to buy American. Even as he campaigns that he's going to tariff Chinese imports 100%, he chose to buy Chinese. It makes him smart right?

This is what I'm trying to tell you but you won't listen. This is why you can't ask Al Gore to sell his 5 homes or not fly on private jets. We can't fix the problem by hoping everyone does the right thing. Look at Trump. He could have easily found bibles that were made in America. But unless Trump is FORCED to buy American, he won't. That's why Trump will tariff Trump products 100% when he wins. Do you believe that?

"When he wins"? Have you given up on the Cackler/Kiddy Diddler ticket?

You sure do like to use the threat of government violence to force people to live the way you think they should. It's a common leftist fault.

 

[daveman]

You clearly missed the point. YOU are perfectly fine with buying America. But your candidate isn't.

Hypocrisy is a bad thing. So is ignorance.

Hypocrisy? Oh, you mean like Al Gore having 5 houses and flying private jets but insisting the peasants buy electric vehicles.

You seem to be okay with that hypocrisy.

 

[sealybobo]

"When he wins"? Have you given up on the Cackler/Kiddy Diddler ticket?

You sure do like to use the threat of government violence to force people to live the way you think they should. It's a common leftist fault.

I don't believe he will win nor will he impose tariff's on his companies bible purchases. Trump smart not patriotic.

 

[sealybobo]

Hypocrisy? Oh, you mean like Al Gore having 5 houses and flying private jets but insisting the peasants buy electric vehicles.

You seem to be okay with that hypocrisy.

How many times do I have to explain this to you idiots.

Al Gore is rich. He's going to own multiple houses. That doesn't matter one bit. The point I made was Trump and Al Gore can't fix our problems by volunteering to pay more taxes or put solar panels on their homes. It has to be mandated.

Look at Trump. How many printing companies can make bibles in America? I'm sure a lot. But Trump purchased his God Bless America bibles from China. Why? Because they are cheaper. So GOVERNMENT (Trump) has to FORCE you to buy American by tariff'ing Chinese imports.

Actually, Trump has to FORCE himself. See? Even a guy like Trump who tells you he's going to get America to start buying American again, by tariffing imports, will continue to buy from China, until those tariffs kick in.

So Al Gore can't fix the problem by himself. Trump has to FORCE him to do better. Otherwise Al Gore will continue to pollute just like Trump will continue to buy Chinese.

So Trump isn't going to lower prices. In fact this will mean prices go up.

 

[daveman]

I don't believe he will win nor will he impose tariff's on his companies bible purchases. Trump smart not patriotic.

Uh huh.

 

[daveman]

How many times do I have to explain this to you idiots.

Al Gore is rich. He's going to own multiple houses. That doesn't matter one bit. The point I made was Trump and Al Gore can't fix our problems by volunteering to pay more taxes or put solar panels on their homes. It has to be mandated.

Look at Trump. How many printing companies can make bibles in America? I'm sure a lot. But Trump purchased his God Bless America bibles from China. Why? Because they are cheaper. So GOVERNMENT (Trump) has to FORCE you to buy American by tariff'ing Chinese imports.

Actually, Trump has to FORCE himself. See? Even a guy like Trump who tells you he's going to get America to start buying American again, by tariffing imports, will continue to buy from China, until those tariffs kick in.

So Al Gore can't fix the problem by himself. Trump has to FORCE him to do better. Otherwise Al Gore will continue to pollute just like Trump will continue to buy Chinese.

So Trump isn't going to lower prices. In fact this will mean prices go up.

Yup, you sure do like using the threat of government violence to get people to live like you want.

Scratch a leftist, find a fascist. Every single time.