Sweden's Coronavirus Strategy Will Soon Be The Worlds

[Sun Devil 92]

Sweden’s Coronavirus Strategy Will Soon Be the World’s

Herd immunity is the only realistic option—the question is how to get there safely.

www.foreignaffairs.com

Rather than declare a lockdown or a state of emergency, Sweden asked its citizens to practice social distancing on a mostly voluntary basis. Swedish authorities imposed some restrictions designed to flatten the curve: no public gatherings of more than 50 people, no bar service, distance learning in high schools and universities, and so on. But they eschewed harsh controls, fines, and policing. Swedes have changed their behavior, but not as profoundly as the citizens of other Western democracies. Many restaurants remain open, although they are lightly trafficked; young children are still in school. And in contrast to neighboring Norway (and some Asian countries), Sweden has not introduced location-tracing technologies or apps, thus avoiding threats to privacy and personal autonomy.

Swedish authorities have not officially declared a goal of reaching herd immunity, which most scientists believe is achieved when more than 60 percent of the population has had the virus. But augmenting immunity is no doubt part of the government’s broader strategy—or at least a likely consequence of keeping schools, restaurants, and most businesses open. Anders Tegnell, the chief epidemiologist at Sweden’s Public Health Agency, has projected that the city of Stockholm could reach herd immunity as early as this month. Based on updated behavioral assumptions (social-distancing norms are changing how Swedes behave), the Stockholm University mathematician Tom Britton has calculated that 40 percent immunity in the capital could be enough to stop the virus’s spread there and that this could happen by mid-June.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fuck this lockdown.

Sweden has made some mistakes...but

SWEDEN HAS THE 8TH HIGHEST PER CAPITA LEVEL OF DEATH FROM CORONAVIRUS ON THE PLANET! They are the perfect example of what NOT to do when it comes to coronavirus.

Some things you should know about Sweden:

01. They have a low rate of per capita testing. Infections and deaths from coronavirus are going unreported.
02. Poor surveillance and information on where the virus is and who is infected, dead or alive, makes it difficult to defeat the pathogen.
03. the per capita death rate from coronavirus could by higher than it is right now and probably is. They could potentially have the highest number of per capita deaths in the world instead of the 8th highest.
04. Sweden has a low population density which works in its favor a country of 10 million people larger than most U.S. states. New York City almost has as many people. If New York City had adopted Sweden's approach, the city would have collapsed from all the extra deaths it would have incurred.

THE COUNTRY that has the BEST RECORD on coronavirus is TAIWAN! TAIWAN is doing the exact opposite of going for herd immunity and is protecting the population as much as possible.

Only 7 people have died in TAIWAN, the 12 most densely populated country on earth with 24 million people squeezed into an area 1/3 the size of Pennsylvania.

TAIWAN only had 440 of its 24 million people get infected. There are currently only 50 people in TAIWAN who still have active cases of the virus.

TAIWAN shows how you save lives and do the best to help the economy. Sweden shows how you kill the most people, without little benefit to their economy.

So what ?

We are currently going the way of Sweden.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Sweden’s Coronavirus Strategy Will Soon Be the World’s

Herd immunity is the only realistic option—the question is how to get there safely.

www.foreignaffairs.com

Rather than declare a lockdown or a state of emergency, Sweden asked its citizens to practice social distancing on a mostly voluntary basis. Swedish authorities imposed some restrictions designed to flatten the curve: no public gatherings of more than 50 people, no bar service, distance learning in high schools and universities, and so on. But they eschewed harsh controls, fines, and policing. Swedes have changed their behavior, but not as profoundly as the citizens of other Western democracies. Many restaurants remain open, although they are lightly trafficked; young children are still in school. And in contrast to neighboring Norway (and some Asian countries), Sweden has not introduced location-tracing technologies or apps, thus avoiding threats to privacy and personal autonomy.

Swedish authorities have not officially declared a goal of reaching herd immunity, which most scientists believe is achieved when more than 60 percent of the population has had the virus. But augmenting immunity is no doubt part of the government’s broader strategy—or at least a likely consequence of keeping schools, restaurants, and most businesses open. Anders Tegnell, the chief epidemiologist at Sweden’s Public Health Agency, has projected that the city of Stockholm could reach herd immunity as early as this month. Based on updated behavioral assumptions (social-distancing norms are changing how Swedes behave), the Stockholm University mathematician Tom Britton has calculated that 40 percent immunity in the capital could be enough to stop the virus’s spread there and that this could happen by mid-June.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fuck this lockdown.

Sweden has made some mistakes...but

Sweden's Coronavirus Strategy Will Soon Be The Worlds


It may be....I was duped in the beginning.....Trump needs to speak to the nation from the oval office and explain his thinking and to allow us to go back to work......the cure is now worse than the virus....at the very least Trump needs to bring in other experts to join Fauci so he can get a full picture of what is going on.....

Unemployment of 14.7% is far better than millions of people dying. You defeat a pathogen by denying it hosts. You deny it hosts through isolation of people.

You don't quarantine healthy people. The absolute stupidity in this is just staggering.

Any healthy person is a potential hosts that the virus can use to spread itself. You quarantine healthy people to prevent them from spreading the virus.

No, it doesn't work. It's never been done in the history of the world. You quarantine the sick.

Tell that to TAIWAN. Only 440 infections and 7 deaths. They currently only have 50 active cases and that number is falling every day.

TAIWAN has the best record, and they have it because they were able to isolate the pathogen. That involved restrictions and isolation of millions of people who were healthy.

We are going the way of Sweden.

Hide in your basement and stop spamming these threads.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

zaangalewa whines again.

We know this disease kills people. It will kill people no matter what we do. But the people dying already have one foot in the grave. They're old people who are going to die soon anyway. We can let our economy die too.

I am unwilling to sign up for that statement.

We should be protecting them.

We don't need to shut down the economy to do it.

The only way to kill a pathogen, is to isolate it from more hosts. The economy we'll be fine, and anything that is lost economically can be rebuilt. What you can't do, is resurrect someone who has physically died from this virus.

So we'll stop driving cars too.

We don't need them.

Shut up

 

[Sun Devil 92]

zaangalewa whines again.

We know this disease kills people. It will kill people no matter what we do. But the people dying already have one foot in the grave. They're old people who are going to die soon anyway. We can let our economy die too.

I am unwilling to sign up for that statement.

We should be protecting them.

We don't need to shut down the economy to do it.

The only way to kill a pathogen, is to isolate it from more hosts. The economy we'll be fine, and anything that is lost economically can be rebuilt. What you can't do, is resurrect someone who has physically died from this virus.

Never going to happen.

zaangalewa whines again.

We know this disease kills people. It will kill people no matter what we do. But the people dying already have one foot in the grave. They're old people who are going to die soon anyway. We can let our economy die too.

I am unwilling to sign up for that statement.

We should be protecting them.

We don't need to shut down the economy to do it.

The only way to kill a pathogen, is to isolate it from more hosts. The economy we'll be fine, and anything that is lost economically can be rebuilt. What you can't do, is resurrect someone who has physically died from this virus.

So we'll stop driving cars too.

We don't need them.

Shut up

 

[zaangalewa]

Herd immunity is the way to go.

"Herd immunity" is an argument of lazybones who don't want to fight against Corona.

Natural immunity is exponentially better than any vaccines which have contaminated animal seed lines.

(1) Still everyone thinks a so called "herd immunity" is possible also in case of the new virus Corona-2 - but still no one knows this for sure. In general a herd immunity will come - if it is possible, then this is a kind of automatism. But the important question in this context is the price, which has to be payed in the hardest of all possible currencies: the currency "life".

(2) If a vaccination is possible - what also no one knows for sure now in the moment - then an artificial method (with "boosts") will be much more efficient than a natural process, which has damned high unknown risks.

No thanks dude.

¿dude?

Y'all can pump yourself full of that cell damaging junk.

Are you sure you know what you try to speak about? You sound like a Trump now.

 

[zaangalewa]

I don't speak swedish but want to learn how....it's my heritage.

Good luck. It's a fascinating language. I'm able to read it a little - but I'm not able to hear it correctly or to speak Swedish. 'Unfortunatelly' all Swedes speak English too. I fear the Swedish language will die out one day - as so many Celtic and Germanic languages had died out meanwhile.

 

[Juicin]

Sweden’s Coronavirus Strategy Will Soon Be the World’s

Herd immunity is the only realistic option—the question is how to get there safely.

www.foreignaffairs.com

Rather than declare a lockdown or a state of emergency, Sweden asked its citizens to practice social distancing on a mostly voluntary basis. Swedish authorities imposed some restrictions designed to flatten the curve: no public gatherings of more than 50 people, no bar service, distance learning in high schools and universities, and so on. But they eschewed harsh controls, fines, and policing. Swedes have changed their behavior, but not as profoundly as the citizens of other Western democracies. Many restaurants remain open, although they are lightly trafficked; young children are still in school. And in contrast to neighboring Norway (and some Asian countries), Sweden has not introduced location-tracing technologies or apps, thus avoiding threats to privacy and personal autonomy.

Swedish authorities have not officially declared a goal of reaching herd immunity, which most scientists believe is achieved when more than 60 percent of the population has had the virus. But augmenting immunity is no doubt part of the government’s broader strategy—or at least a likely consequence of keeping schools, restaurants, and most businesses open. Anders Tegnell, the chief epidemiologist at Sweden’s Public Health Agency, has projected that the city of Stockholm could reach herd immunity as early as this month. Based on updated behavioral assumptions (social-distancing norms are changing how Swedes behave), the Stockholm University mathematician Tom Britton has calculated that 40 percent immunity in the capital could be enough to stop the virus’s spread there and that this could happen by mid-June.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fuck this lockdown.

Sweden has made some mistakes...but

Sad times when swedes are acting more like Americans than Americans

 

[zaangalewa]

@bluzman16

Congrats. You hold a new personal "dislike"-record. 5 dislikes in 5 seconds. Do you try to read and to understand, what you "dislike"?

 

[zaangalewa]

Sweden’s Coronavirus Strategy Will Soon Be the World’s

Herd immunity is the only realistic option—the question is how to get there safely.

www.foreignaffairs.com

Rather than declare a lockdown or a state of emergency, Sweden asked its citizens to practice social distancing on a mostly voluntary basis. Swedish authorities imposed some restrictions designed to flatten the curve: no public gatherings of more than 50 people, no bar service, distance learning in high schools and universities, and so on. But they eschewed harsh controls, fines, and policing. Swedes have changed their behavior, but not as profoundly as the citizens of other Western democracies. Many restaurants remain open, although they are lightly trafficked; young children are still in school. And in contrast to neighboring Norway (and some Asian countries), Sweden has not introduced location-tracing technologies or apps, thus avoiding threats to privacy and personal autonomy.

Swedish authorities have not officially declared a goal of reaching herd immunity, which most scientists believe is achieved when more than 60 percent of the population has had the virus. But augmenting immunity is no doubt part of the government’s broader strategy—or at least a likely consequence of keeping schools, restaurants, and most businesses open. Anders Tegnell, the chief epidemiologist at Sweden’s Public Health Agency, has projected that the city of Stockholm could reach herd immunity as early as this month. Based on updated behavioral assumptions (social-distancing norms are changing how Swedes behave), the Stockholm University mathematician Tom Britton has calculated that 40 percent immunity in the capital could be enough to stop the virus’s spread there and that this could happen by mid-June.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fuck this lockdown.

Sweden has made some mistakes...but

Sad times when swedes are acting more like Americans than Americans

Swedes act like Swedes. And they don't do, what you think they do. Whatever - we developed a very good reliable test for antibodies of Corona-2 last week. "Soon" we will have made some millions tests and will be hopefully able to bring more dark numbers of Corona into the light of research. Impatience is one of the greatest dangers now. The spanish influenca (made in the USA) hit Germany once in three waves. The second wave was the most deadly of this three deadly waves. To wait with defense or to block defense seems not to be the best way as far as I can see.

 

[zaangalewa]

Dale Smith

And why do you laugh now? What is funny in my words here? I tried to speak about a very serious theme with very serios words.

 

[Dale Smith]

Sweden’s Coronavirus Strategy Will Soon Be the World’s

Herd immunity is the only realistic option—the question is how to get there safely.

www.foreignaffairs.com

Rather than declare a lockdown or a state of emergency, Sweden asked its citizens to practice social distancing on a mostly voluntary basis. Swedish authorities imposed some restrictions designed to flatten the curve: no public gatherings of more than 50 people, no bar service, distance learning in high schools and universities, and so on. But they eschewed harsh controls, fines, and policing. Swedes have changed their behavior, but not as profoundly as the citizens of other Western democracies. Many restaurants remain open, although they are lightly trafficked; young children are still in school. And in contrast to neighboring Norway (and some Asian countries), Sweden has not introduced location-tracing technologies or apps, thus avoiding threats to privacy and personal autonomy.

Swedish authorities have not officially declared a goal of reaching herd immunity, which most scientists believe is achieved when more than 60 percent of the population has had the virus. But augmenting immunity is no doubt part of the government’s broader strategy—or at least a likely consequence of keeping schools, restaurants, and most businesses open. Anders Tegnell, the chief epidemiologist at Sweden’s Public Health Agency, has projected that the city of Stockholm could reach herd immunity as early as this month. Based on updated behavioral assumptions (social-distancing norms are changing how Swedes behave), the Stockholm University mathematician Tom Britton has calculated that 40 percent immunity in the capital could be enough to stop the virus’s spread there and that this could happen by mid-June.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fuck this lockdown.

Sweden has made some mistakes...but

Sad times when swedes are acting more like Americans than Americans

Swedes act like Swedes. And they don't do what you think they do. Whatever - we developed a very good reliable test for antibodies of Corona last week. "Soon" we will have made some millions tests and will be hopefully able to bring more dark numbers of Corona into the light of research. Impatience is one of the greatest dangers now. The spanish influenca (made in the USA) hit Germany once in three waves. The second wave was the most deadly of this three deadly waves. To wait with defense or to block defense seems not to be the best way.

Will these tests be more reliable than the ones that gave back positive results on citrus fruit and farm animals? Will we be able to say with certainty that the test swabs will not be contaminated with the virus itself like the first month's worth of swabs were? Are we sure that this test will not lump everyone else with the flu vaccine that was given away this past flu season? One of the 48 strains of the flu that claims with the insert that it does not guarantee that this shot will protect you from this particular strain?

 

[zaangalewa]

Dale Smith

You still "laugh". Do you have a weird problem with drugs and/or alcohol?

 

[U2Edge]

Sweden’s Coronavirus Strategy Will Soon Be the World’s

Herd immunity is the only realistic option—the question is how to get there safely.

www.foreignaffairs.com

Rather than declare a lockdown or a state of emergency, Sweden asked its citizens to practice social distancing on a mostly voluntary basis. Swedish authorities imposed some restrictions designed to flatten the curve: no public gatherings of more than 50 people, no bar service, distance learning in high schools and universities, and so on. But they eschewed harsh controls, fines, and policing. Swedes have changed their behavior, but not as profoundly as the citizens of other Western democracies. Many restaurants remain open, although they are lightly trafficked; young children are still in school. And in contrast to neighboring Norway (and some Asian countries), Sweden has not introduced location-tracing technologies or apps, thus avoiding threats to privacy and personal autonomy.

Swedish authorities have not officially declared a goal of reaching herd immunity, which most scientists believe is achieved when more than 60 percent of the population has had the virus. But augmenting immunity is no doubt part of the government’s broader strategy—or at least a likely consequence of keeping schools, restaurants, and most businesses open. Anders Tegnell, the chief epidemiologist at Sweden’s Public Health Agency, has projected that the city of Stockholm could reach herd immunity as early as this month. Based on updated behavioral assumptions (social-distancing norms are changing how Swedes behave), the Stockholm University mathematician Tom Britton has calculated that 40 percent immunity in the capital could be enough to stop the virus’s spread there and that this could happen by mid-June.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fuck this lockdown.

Sweden has made some mistakes...but

SWEDEN HAS THE 8TH HIGHEST PER CAPITA LEVEL OF DEATH FROM CORONAVIRUS ON THE PLANET! They are the perfect example of what NOT to do when it comes to coronavirus.

Some things you should know about Sweden:

01. They have a low rate of per capita testing. Infections and deaths from coronavirus are going unreported.
02. Poor surveillance and information on where the virus is and who is infected, dead or alive, makes it difficult to defeat the pathogen.
03. the per capita death rate from coronavirus could by higher than it is right now and probably is. They could potentially have the highest number of per capita deaths in the world instead of the 8th highest.
04. Sweden has a low population density which works in its favor a country of 10 million people larger than most U.S. states. New York City almost has as many people. If New York City had adopted Sweden's approach, the city would have collapsed from all the extra deaths it would have incurred.

THE COUNTRY that has the BEST RECORD on coronavirus is TAIWAN! TAIWAN is doing the exact opposite of going for herd immunity and is protecting the population as much as possible.

Only 7 people have died in TAIWAN, the 12 most densely populated country on earth with 24 million people squeezed into an area 1/3 the size of Pennsylvania.

TAIWAN only had 440 of its 24 million people get infected. There are currently only 50 people in TAIWAN who still have active cases of the virus.

TAIWAN shows how you save lives and do the best to help the economy. Sweden shows how you kill the most people, without little benefit to their economy.

So what ?

We are currently going the way of Sweden.

People are dying because of poor policy and all you have to say is, SO WHAT? Over 1,700 Americans died yesterday from coronavirus? What do you think the is best way is to reduce that daily level of death?

Tell, me how opening up is going to reduce daily new infections and daily new deaths in the United States?

Any economy, city, or country can be rebuilt. But you can't resurrect the people who have physically died.

 

[Dale Smith]

Dale Smith

And why do you laugh now? What is funny in my words here? I tried to speak about a very serious theme with very serios words.

Go back and read my response, moron......was it too difficult for you to understand? Too many multi-syllable words? Use the internet to find an on-line dictionary.

Hope this helps!

 

[U2Edge]

Sweden’s Coronavirus Strategy Will Soon Be the World’s

Herd immunity is the only realistic option—the question is how to get there safely.

www.foreignaffairs.com

Rather than declare a lockdown or a state of emergency, Sweden asked its citizens to practice social distancing on a mostly voluntary basis. Swedish authorities imposed some restrictions designed to flatten the curve: no public gatherings of more than 50 people, no bar service, distance learning in high schools and universities, and so on. But they eschewed harsh controls, fines, and policing. Swedes have changed their behavior, but not as profoundly as the citizens of other Western democracies. Many restaurants remain open, although they are lightly trafficked; young children are still in school. And in contrast to neighboring Norway (and some Asian countries), Sweden has not introduced location-tracing technologies or apps, thus avoiding threats to privacy and personal autonomy.

Swedish authorities have not officially declared a goal of reaching herd immunity, which most scientists believe is achieved when more than 60 percent of the population has had the virus. But augmenting immunity is no doubt part of the government’s broader strategy—or at least a likely consequence of keeping schools, restaurants, and most businesses open. Anders Tegnell, the chief epidemiologist at Sweden’s Public Health Agency, has projected that the city of Stockholm could reach herd immunity as early as this month. Based on updated behavioral assumptions (social-distancing norms are changing how Swedes behave), the Stockholm University mathematician Tom Britton has calculated that 40 percent immunity in the capital could be enough to stop the virus’s spread there and that this could happen by mid-June.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fuck this lockdown.

Sweden has made some mistakes...but

Sweden's Coronavirus Strategy Will Soon Be The Worlds


It may be....I was duped in the beginning.....Trump needs to speak to the nation from the oval office and explain his thinking and to allow us to go back to work......the cure is now worse than the virus....at the very least Trump needs to bring in other experts to join Fauci so he can get a full picture of what is going on.....

Unemployment of 14.7% is far better than millions of people dying. You defeat a pathogen by denying it hosts. You deny it hosts through isolation of people.

You don't quarantine healthy people. The absolute stupidity in this is just staggering.

Any healthy person is a potential hosts that the virus can use to spread itself. You quarantine healthy people to prevent them from spreading the virus.

No, it doesn't work. It's never been done in the history of the world. You quarantine the sick.

Tell that to TAIWAN. Only 440 infections and 7 deaths. They currently only have 50 active cases and that number is falling every day.

TAIWAN has the best record, and they have it because they were able to isolate the pathogen. That involved restrictions and isolation of millions of people who were healthy.

We are going the way of Sweden.

Hide in your basement and stop spamming these threads.

More people will resist the opening up policies as they kill and infect more Americans. Donald Trump is headed home after the November 3, 2020 election which he will lose. The Democrats will control both houses of congress and the White House in January 2021.

 

[Dale Smith]

Sweden’s Coronavirus Strategy Will Soon Be the World’s

Herd immunity is the only realistic option—the question is how to get there safely.

www.foreignaffairs.com

Rather than declare a lockdown or a state of emergency, Sweden asked its citizens to practice social distancing on a mostly voluntary basis. Swedish authorities imposed some restrictions designed to flatten the curve: no public gatherings of more than 50 people, no bar service, distance learning in high schools and universities, and so on. But they eschewed harsh controls, fines, and policing. Swedes have changed their behavior, but not as profoundly as the citizens of other Western democracies. Many restaurants remain open, although they are lightly trafficked; young children are still in school. And in contrast to neighboring Norway (and some Asian countries), Sweden has not introduced location-tracing technologies or apps, thus avoiding threats to privacy and personal autonomy.

Swedish authorities have not officially declared a goal of reaching herd immunity, which most scientists believe is achieved when more than 60 percent of the population has had the virus. But augmenting immunity is no doubt part of the government’s broader strategy—or at least a likely consequence of keeping schools, restaurants, and most businesses open. Anders Tegnell, the chief epidemiologist at Sweden’s Public Health Agency, has projected that the city of Stockholm could reach herd immunity as early as this month. Based on updated behavioral assumptions (social-distancing norms are changing how Swedes behave), the Stockholm University mathematician Tom Britton has calculated that 40 percent immunity in the capital could be enough to stop the virus’s spread there and that this could happen by mid-June.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fuck this lockdown.

Sweden has made some mistakes...but

SWEDEN HAS THE 8TH HIGHEST PER CAPITA LEVEL OF DEATH FROM CORONAVIRUS ON THE PLANET! They are the perfect example of what NOT to do when it comes to coronavirus.

Some things you should know about Sweden:

01. They have a low rate of per capita testing. Infections and deaths from coronavirus are going unreported.
02. Poor surveillance and information on where the virus is and who is infected, dead or alive, makes it difficult to defeat the pathogen.
03. the per capita death rate from coronavirus could by higher than it is right now and probably is. They could potentially have the highest number of per capita deaths in the world instead of the 8th highest.
04. Sweden has a low population density which works in its favor a country of 10 million people larger than most U.S. states. New York City almost has as many people. If New York City had adopted Sweden's approach, the city would have collapsed from all the extra deaths it would have incurred.

THE COUNTRY that has the BEST RECORD on coronavirus is TAIWAN! TAIWAN is doing the exact opposite of going for herd immunity and is protecting the population as much as possible.

Only 7 people have died in TAIWAN, the 12 most densely populated country on earth with 24 million people squeezed into an area 1/3 the size of Pennsylvania.

TAIWAN only had 440 of its 24 million people get infected. There are currently only 50 people in TAIWAN who still have active cases of the virus.

TAIWAN shows how you save lives and do the best to help the economy. Sweden shows how you kill the most people, without little benefit to their economy.

So what ?

We are currently going the way of Sweden.

People are dying because of poor policy and all you have to say is, SO WHAT? Over 1,700 Americans died yesterday from coronavirus? What do you think the is best way is to reduce that daily level of death?

Tell, me how opening up is going to reduce daily new infections and daily new deaths in the United States?

Any economy, city, or country can be rebuilt. But you can't resurrect the people who have physically died.

And if one didn't die due to the corona virus, they will claim they did anyway to pad the stats and keep the fear porn narrative going...after all, social distancing is the (snicker) "new normal". How fucking stupid are you? Seriously, how can you not see what is going on?

 

[U2Edge]

zaangalewa whines again.

We know this disease kills people. It will kill people no matter what we do. But the people dying already have one foot in the grave. They're old people who are going to die soon anyway. We can let our economy die too.

I am unwilling to sign up for that statement.

We should be protecting them.

We don't need to shut down the economy to do it.

The only way to kill a pathogen, is to isolate it from more hosts. The economy we'll be fine, and anything that is lost economically can be rebuilt. What you can't do, is resurrect someone who has physically died from this virus.

So we'll stop driving cars too.

We don't need them.

Shut up

Not anywhere near equivalent. Sorry, but this is not Nazi Germany. You don't get shut up anyone.

 

[zaangalewa]

Sweden’s Coronavirus Strategy Will Soon Be the World’s

Herd immunity is the only realistic option—the question is how to get there safely.

www.foreignaffairs.com

Rather than declare a lockdown or a state of emergency, Sweden asked its citizens to practice social distancing on a mostly voluntary basis. Swedish authorities imposed some restrictions designed to flatten the curve: no public gatherings of more than 50 people, no bar service, distance learning in high schools and universities, and so on. But they eschewed harsh controls, fines, and policing. Swedes have changed their behavior, but not as profoundly as the citizens of other Western democracies. Many restaurants remain open, although they are lightly trafficked; young children are still in school. And in contrast to neighboring Norway (and some Asian countries), Sweden has not introduced location-tracing technologies or apps, thus avoiding threats to privacy and personal autonomy.

Swedish authorities have not officially declared a goal of reaching herd immunity, which most scientists believe is achieved when more than 60 percent of the population has had the virus. But augmenting immunity is no doubt part of the government’s broader strategy—or at least a likely consequence of keeping schools, restaurants, and most businesses open. Anders Tegnell, the chief epidemiologist at Sweden’s Public Health Agency, has projected that the city of Stockholm could reach herd immunity as early as this month. Based on updated behavioral assumptions (social-distancing norms are changing how Swedes behave), the Stockholm University mathematician Tom Britton has calculated that 40 percent immunity in the capital could be enough to stop the virus’s spread there and that this could happen by mid-June.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fuck this lockdown.

Sweden has made some mistakes...but

Sad times when swedes are acting more like Americans than Americans

Swedes act like Swedes. And they don't do what you think they do. Whatever - we developed a very good reliable test for antibodies of Corona last week. "Soon" we will have made some millions tests and will be hopefully able to bring more dark numbers of Corona into the light of research. Impatience is one of the greatest dangers now. The spanish influenca (made in the USA) hit Germany once in three waves. The second wave was the most deadly of this three deadly waves. To wait with defense or to block defense seems not to be the best way.

Will these tests be more reliable ...

During the test of this test in 5727 cases the infection with Corona was detected in 100% of all cases and the specifity was 99.81% - so only in case of 0.19% the test reacted with other Corona-viruses.

 

[U2Edge]

zaangalewa whines again.

We know this disease kills people. It will kill people no matter what we do. But the people dying already have one foot in the grave. They're old people who are going to die soon anyway. We can let our economy die too.

I am unwilling to sign up for that statement.

We should be protecting them.

We don't need to shut down the economy to do it.

The only way to kill a pathogen, is to isolate it from more hosts. The economy we'll be fine, and anything that is lost economically can be rebuilt. What you can't do, is resurrect someone who has physically died from this virus.

Never going to happen.

zaangalewa whines again.

We know this disease kills people. It will kill people no matter what we do. But the people dying already have one foot in the grave. They're old people who are going to die soon anyway. We can let our economy die too.

I am unwilling to sign up for that statement.

We should be protecting them.

We don't need to shut down the economy to do it.

The only way to kill a pathogen, is to isolate it from more hosts. The economy we'll be fine, and anything that is lost economically can be rebuilt. What you can't do, is resurrect someone who has physically died from this virus.

So we'll stop driving cars too.

We don't need them.

Shut up

Already happening in Taiwan, South Korea, New Zealand.

 

[Dale Smith]

Sweden’s Coronavirus Strategy Will Soon Be the World’s

Herd immunity is the only realistic option—the question is how to get there safely.

www.foreignaffairs.com

Rather than declare a lockdown or a state of emergency, Sweden asked its citizens to practice social distancing on a mostly voluntary basis. Swedish authorities imposed some restrictions designed to flatten the curve: no public gatherings of more than 50 people, no bar service, distance learning in high schools and universities, and so on. But they eschewed harsh controls, fines, and policing. Swedes have changed their behavior, but not as profoundly as the citizens of other Western democracies. Many restaurants remain open, although they are lightly trafficked; young children are still in school. And in contrast to neighboring Norway (and some Asian countries), Sweden has not introduced location-tracing technologies or apps, thus avoiding threats to privacy and personal autonomy.

Swedish authorities have not officially declared a goal of reaching herd immunity, which most scientists believe is achieved when more than 60 percent of the population has had the virus. But augmenting immunity is no doubt part of the government’s broader strategy—or at least a likely consequence of keeping schools, restaurants, and most businesses open. Anders Tegnell, the chief epidemiologist at Sweden’s Public Health Agency, has projected that the city of Stockholm could reach herd immunity as early as this month. Based on updated behavioral assumptions (social-distancing norms are changing how Swedes behave), the Stockholm University mathematician Tom Britton has calculated that 40 percent immunity in the capital could be enough to stop the virus’s spread there and that this could happen by mid-June.

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Fuck this lockdown.

Sweden has made some mistakes...but

Sad times when swedes are acting more like Americans than Americans

Swedes act like Swedes. And they don't do what you think they do. Whatever - we developed a very good reliable test for antibodies of Corona last week. "Soon" we will have made some millions tests and will be hopefully able to bring more dark numbers of Corona into the light of research. Impatience is one of the greatest dangers now. The spanish influenca (made in the USA) hit Germany once in three waves. The second wave was the most deadly of this three deadly waves. To wait with defense or to block defense seems not to be the best way.

Will these tests be more reliable ...

During the test of this test in 5727 cases the infection with Corona was detected in 100% of all cases and the specifity was 99.81% - so only in case of 0.19% the test reacted with other Corona-viruses.

LOL! Got a link to that?????