Supreme Court justices RIP ruling forcing states to recognize same-sex marriages - 'Threat To Religious Freedom!'

[Ray From Cleveland]

No you have not! You might think that you did but you have not. All that I am getting is that you oppose marriage in general. But this all started with your opposition specifically to gay marriage and you have not explained that at all. It appears that your anti marriage crap is intended to avoint the issue of gay marriage . Throw the baby out with the bath water. Prove me wrong

Post 412:

As a society we set social standards, particularly for our children. If I did have children, I wouldn't want them witnessing two guys french kissing in the park. A fat 70 old woman walking around naked in public doesn't affect me either unless I actually see it, but it does violate our social standards as it will make a lot of people ill, just like a lot of people get ill seeing two guys kissing at a bus stop.

 

[bodecea]

Post 412:

Let me ask you....do you honestly believe that getting rid of gay marriage will stop two gay men from kissing in the park?

 

[justinacolmena]

There is a lot of stuff not explicitly in the Constitution. Women’s rights, a standing Army, Space Force...

Same Sex Marriage is here to stay

Women's rights? Let's just leave that "right" to marry another woman out. Is it a cellmate in prison? Or some f***in' rich-a$$ pop culture celeb wh0re with a live-in housekeeper? Is it all over when a boyfriend shows up? Or do they just call it a threesome in that case? I don't see one lady picnicking on another lady like that, I just don't buy the hardcore porn crap, and I don't believe what I don't see. Streetwalkers work the streets au pair, and offer themselves to men on a one night stand basis, with the other woman to help kick the boyfriend out in the morning.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If the only marriage are religious marriages, about half of the country would not get married. That would be bad for everyone.

It would be great for normal people. We could preserve the tradition of marriage as it's been for the many generations and since the founding of this country until liberals Fd it up for us. It's one of the many reasons I think it's time to have two countries instead of one. By dividing the country between liberals and conservatives, it would solve most all of our problems. I do hope there is a movement soon to start the process. You wouldn't have to put up with us, and we wouldn't have to put up with you, and everybody would be happy.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Let me ask you....do you honestly believe that getting rid of gay marriage will stop two gay men from kissing in the park?

I don't know, but at least it would stop promoting it. Like I said, liberals have the mentality of children. This has nothing to do with visitation rights in hospitals, Social Security, testifying against a spouse (like how often does that happen?) It's purely about rejection. Some gays don't like feeling like an outcast and believe that by forcing their marriage down our throats, it will make them normal somehow.

It doesn't work that way.

 

[Flopper]

Yes you can, but it's not accepted or recognized by the state.

That depends on whether the state recognized common law marriages and if you meet the requirements.

 

[Flopper]

It would be great for normal people. We could preserve the tradition of marriage as it's been for the many generations and since the founding of this country until liberals Fd it up for us. It's one of the many reasons I think it's time to have two countries instead of one. By dividing the country between liberals and conservatives, it would solve most all of our problems. I do hope there is a movement soon to start the process. You wouldn't have to put up with us, and we wouldn't have to put up with you, and everybody would be happy.

If you divide the country into liberal and conservatives what do you do with 35% of the country that identify as moderate who are neither fully on the left or right. And what about the swing hitters who move back and forth and then the I' don't give shit bunch.

 

[Seawytch]

Look, you are talking to a retired truck driver. I know the transportation field pretty well.

If there is a call for a pickup of alcohol in New York, you don't send a driver in Texas to pick it up. You have to pay that driver for every empty mile he drives. You call one of your drivers in PA or or one already in NY to pickup the load.

The drivers made no request for religious accommodations otherwise the company would have never hired them. When it comes to freight, you take what you can get and haul anything legal to haul.

I don't care if you are J.B. Hunt himself. The company could have made a religious accommodation for the drivers. And yes, they did ask for a religious accommodation and it was denied so they notified the EEOC.

StackPath

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The case involved two drivers at Star Transport, Inc. in Morton, Illinois who, in 2009, asked for an accommodation because delivering alcohol went against their religious beliefs. In 2012, after the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and Star could not reach an agreement after months of negotiations, the federal agency filed a lawsuit. [...]​

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According to the judge's opinion, Star's HR person testified that he received no formal training in Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which governs religious accommodations nor did the company even bother to educate themselves on their obligations. "You don't see that very often," Atterberry said, laughing. "That's pretty bad."​

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Star did not mount any sort of defense. They didn't come forward and show why reasonable accommodation was not possible or would have cause undue hardship. "They did not, from what I can tell, actively litigate this case," she said.[...]​

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According to court documents, Star could have easily switched drivers because they rarely hauled alcohol. In 2008, they only carried one case. The following year, they carried 474 cases out of almost 70,000 loads.​

And these drivers did not bankrupt the company. It was in financial trouble and closed its doors BEFORE the lawsuit and the award for damages.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you divide the country into liberal and conservatives what do you do with 35% of the country that identify as moderate who are neither fully on the left or right. And what about the swing hitters who move back and forth and then the I' don't give shit bunch.

They would have to choose a side that most identifies with their particular beliefs.

Do you want to live disarmed in a high crime high tax country? Do you want to live with way overpriced alternative energy? Do you want to live in an open border country where the government caters to them more than you? Do you want to live where industry and business in general is running away from your country to ours? Do you want to live in a country that panders to criminals and has such disdain and restrictions on police they are virtually useless? Then move to the Democrat country.

Do you want to live armed with low taxes? Do you want to live with much less crime? Do you want to live where jobs are nearly endless? Do you want to pay much less money for fuel? Do you want to live in a country where prisons are actually prisons and offer a real deterrent to crime? Do you want to live in a country where only real women are considered women and real men are considered men? Then move to the Republican country.

 

[Flopper]

Beyond that, they want to force abnormality and immorality on society as a whole, compel everyone to treat abnormal as normal, immoral as moral, and to punish any who refuse to do so.

Isaiah 5:20: Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

What is so great about being normal? If you look up normal in any English dictionary, the first definition is usual, regular, common, typical. How did this become something to aspire?

 

[Unkotare]

What is so great about being normal? If you look up normal in any English dictionary, the first definition is usual, regular, common, typical. How did this become something to aspire?

Sorta depends on how you look at it. It is "normal" to have ten fingers, a nose on the front of your head, and to breathe air.

 

[Flopper]

!?!! I was kidding. If dudes want to marry their basketballs, let them. I do not care. What I do care is if you legally force me to use certain pronouns. Then you’re asking too much. Or if you ask me to turn a blind eye while trans girls compete in sports with biological girls.

If there is force, it will be social, not government.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

If there is force, it will social, not government.

That’s perfectly fine with me. Social norms are what they are. So if it were Govt would you be OK with it? Cause Ontario wanted to do so.

 

[Faun]

DO NOT respond to my comments with your single digit IQ nonsense.

LOL

Dayum, you're a whiney bitch. Idiot, it's analogistic. You're literally crying that a person lost their job for not doing their job because they believe doing their job violates their first Amendment rights. I gave you an example of others faced with that and it's never been deemed unconstitutional.

 

[Faun]

Yeah...you are PROUD of your double digit IQ, aren't you?

Invective sure beats argument, huh?

 

[Faun]

100% true. Look it up. How can you tell how I sound on a message board? LOL

you’re deranged

LOLOL

You just called yourself, "deranged," ShortBus. And who know you better than you?

 

[Faun]

I exaggerated but you get my gist. Women in MA generally get the best outcomes.

LOLOLOL

ShortBus, how the fuck do you go from "100%" to "generally?" She's right, you lied and got caught lying.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

LOLOL

You just called yourself, "deranged," ShortBus. And who know you better than you?

The stalker is back. OCD meds wore off?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

LOLOLOL

ShortBus, how the fuck do you go from "100%" to "generally?" She's right, you lied and got caught lying.

OK stalker. Happy now? What are you trying to achieve? Take your ocd meds and go to bed, old man.

 

[Flopper]

They would have to choose a side that most identifies with their particular beliefs.

Do you want to live disarmed in a high crime high tax country? Do you want to live with way overpriced alternative energy? Do you want to live in an open border country where the government caters to them more than you? Do you want to live where industry and business in general is running away from your country to ours? Do you want to live in a country that panders to criminals and has such disdain and restrictions on police they are virtually useless? Then move to the Democrat country.

Do you want to live armed with low taxes? Do you want to live with much less crime? Do you want to live where jobs are nearly endless? Do you want to pay much less money for fuel? Do you want to live in a country where prisons are actually prisons and offer a real deterrent to crime? Do you want to live in a country where only real women are considered women and real men are considered men? Then move to the Republican country.

Nope, I want to live in the middle where common sense trumps stereotypes, where people understand that neither side is totally right or wrong, where people reject the toxic form of polarization that has fundamentally altered political discourse, public civility and even the way politicians govern. You can have your make believe society where your side is all right and other side is all wrong. That's not for me.