Supreme Court extends pause on deportations under Alien Enemies Act in Texas

[Unkotare]

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Cancel their naturalized citizenship.
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Denaturalization is very rare, and requires a very high degree of adjudication.

 

[Mac-7]

I'm quite sure that you'd love to send all those who disagree with you to El Salvador or Libya--regardless of citizenship status.

Libs would be wise to keep their birth certificate readily accessible

Then when they are arrested for a criminal offense lest they will not get deported as illegal aliens

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Denaturalization is very rare, and requires a very high degree of adjudication.

Indeed..or at least--it has up to this point.
You would agree, I think, that things changed--and we literally don't know how truncated that process could become--if Trump wanted it that way~

 

[MagicMike]

^^^ Democrats support flying all the gang bangers Trump deported back to America, giving them large tax payer paid settlements, and turning them loose on Americans.

Democrats are working with the cartels, gangs, the WEF, and the catholic church on the largest human trafficking operation in history

Democrats = traitors

Prove it.

 

[Marener]

I cant think of single “you guys” that is demanding more immigration judges

Certainly not me

The lack of immigration judges is your excuse to deprive people of due process.

 

[Mac-7]

Of course you aren't--applying the rule of law would, in effect, put the brakes on the very behaviors that you are currently cheering on~

We certainly dont need more globalist minded civil servants passing our green cards like Halloween candy

 

[WorldWatcher]

Indeed..or at least--it has up to this point.
You would agree, I think, that things changed--and we literally don't know how truncated that process could become--if Trump wanted it that way~

It doesn't matter what Trump "wants". It would take Congress to change the law.

WW

 

[Foxfyre]

By sending it back to the Circuit Court, our SCOTUS has effectively kicked this hornet’s nest down the road for while.

Well I suppose the government can build massive detention centers--maybe tent cities or such--to hold as many illegals as they can catch until they can run them past a judge. Maybe establish some courts at the edge of the detention centers to expedite the process?

Better yet strictly enforce the laws on the books that illegals are not allowed to work and offer them all a ride home to their home countries or whatever other place they want to go. It would even be cheaper to pay them some sort of one time stipend to leave than it would be to keep them here.

Those who break the law of course need to go to jail with a court order that they will be deported when they complete their sentence.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

It doesn't matter what Trump "wants". It would take Congress to change the law.

WW

Huh. I can think of any number of XO's that that should apply to..and yet.....

 

[Mac-7]

Well I suppose the government can build massive detention centers--maybe tent cities or such--to hold as many illegals as they can catch until they can run them past a judge. Maybe establish some courts at the edge of the detention centers to expedite the process?

Better yet strictly enforce the laws on the books that illegals are not allowed to work and offer them all a ride home to their home countries or whatever other place they want to go. It would even be cheaper to pay them some sort of one time stipend to leave than it would be to keep them here.

Those who break the law of course need to go to jail.

Globalist libs love to play catch and release

Its why we have so many criminals roaming our streets

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Well I suppose the government can build massive detention centers--maybe tent cities or such--to hold as many illegals as they can catch until they can run them past a judge. Maybe establish some courts at the edge of the detention centers to expedite the process?

Better yet strictly enforce the laws on the books that illegals are not allowed to work and offer them all a ride home to their home countries or whatever other place they want to go. It would even be cheaper to pay them some sort of one time stipend to leave than it would be to keep them here.

Those who break the law of course need to go to jail.

That would, in fact, be the legally correct way of proceeding.
But, it's expensive. so expensive that it's seen as a non-starter.
Unless you spend hugely---it also takes a long time.
In our system, if you have the hammer, you have to use it..because your time is limited.

Also, this administration does not want legal oversight on some of their actions...like deporting people for their political views, for example.

 

[Robert W]

Well I suppose the government can build massive detention centers--maybe tent cities or such--to hold as many illegals as they can catch until they can run them past a judge. Maybe establish some courts at the edge of the detention centers to expedite the process?

Better yet strictly enforce the laws on the books that illegals are not allowed to work and offer them all a ride home to their home countries or whatever other place they want to go. It would even be cheaper to pay them some sort of one time stipend to leave than it would be to keep them here.

Those who break the law of course need to go to jail.

Our Government wants to pay for airlines to carry them home and once proven in their home country give them $1,000. Even that was caused by Biden. We must be talking over $2,000 per alien given airfare is included.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Our Government wants to pay for airlines to carry them home and once proven in their home country give them $1,000. Even that was caused by Biden. We must be talking over $2,000 per alien given airfare is included.

I favor that idea.
Far cheaper all the way around.

Otherwise..due process~

 

[Unkotare]

We certainly dont [sic] need more globalist minded civil servants passing our [sic] green cards like Halloween candy

You clearly don't have the slightest idea about what it takes to get a permanent resident card. Seems to be a pattern with you of proclaiming with "authority" things you know nothing about.

 

[Mac-7]

You clearly don't have the slightest idea about what it takes to get a permanent resident card. Seems to be a pattern with you of proclaiming with "authority" things you know nothing about.

We have up to 40 million interlopers in this country who want green cards

I have no interest in expediting their quest

Instead I want to see the majority of them deported

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

We have up to 40 million interlopers in this country who want green cards

I have no interest in expediting their quest

Instead I want to see the majority of them deported

Just for you....

There aren’t 30 million immigrants in the U.S. illegally

Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., a possible vice presidential pick for former President Donald Trump, said he supports Trump’s

www.politifact.com

In April, the Department of Homeland Security estimated that as of January 2022, 11 million unauthorized immigrants were living in the U.S. That’s up from the 10.5 million estimated in January 2020.

• Different immigration groups, using different methodologies, estimate that the population here illegally ranges from 10.9 million to 16.8 million.
• Immigration officials have stopped people trying to enter the U.S. illegally 9.5 million times under President Joe Biden’s administration. But that doesn’t mean 9.5 million people are now living in the U.S.; millions were not allowed in.
• People dying, leaving the U.S. or legalizing their immigration status change the population-here-illegally number.

"The several organizations that have long issued authoritative data based on rigorous methodologies estimate that the unauthorized population is more in the 11 million range," said Michelle Mittelstadt, communications director for the Migration Policy Institute, a nonpartisan think tank

​

Under Biden’s administration, immigration officials have encountered immigrants trying to illegally cross the border more than 9.5 million times.

But that doesn’t mean that nearly 10 million more people are now living in the U.S. illegally.

Encounters represent events, not people. If one person tries to enter the country three different times and is stopped each time by border officials, for example, that equals three encounters, even if it’s the same person encountered.

"It’s too simple to suggest based on record arrivals at the U.S.-Mexico border that the unauthorized population is swelling by many millions of people," Mittelstadt said.

Also, not everyone encountered illegally crossing the border is allowed to settle in the U.S. As of January 2024, the latest month with available data under Biden, around 3.9 million encounters had resulted in people being removed, returned or expelled from the U.S.

Besides encounters, DHS estimates that about 391,000 people have evaded border authorities. (The latest "got-aways" data DHS has published is for fiscal year 2021, which ran from Oct. 1, 2020, to Sept. 30, 2021, and includes about four months of the Trump administration.)

 

[Foxfyre]

That would, in fact, be the legally correct way of proceeding.
But, it's expensive. so expensive that it's seen as a non-starter.
Unless you spend hugely---it also takes a long time.
In our system, if you have the hammer, you have to use it..because your time is limited.

Also, this administration does not want legal oversight on some of their actions...like deporting people for their political views, for example.

Not as expensive as them running loose in the country which costs us mega billions. And the bad ones would not be stealing, assaulting, raping, terrorizing American citizens, stirring up riots on campuses and such.

 

[Unkotare]

We have up to 40 million interlopers in this country who want green cards

I have no interest in expediting their quest

Instead I want to see the majority of them deported

People applying for permanent resident cards are not "interlopers," they are people with a vested interest in staying in America and very often eventually becoming citizens. You worry about these people and about babies instead of illegal immigrants, which are the real problem. If you just hate immigration in general, just come out and say that you don't understand America.

 

[Foxfyre]

Our Government wants to pay for airlines to carry them home and once proven in their home country give them $1,000. Even that was caused by Biden. We must be talking over $2,000 per alien given airfare is included.

Even that would be cheaper than keeping them here. Air force personnel are required to log so much air time anyway. Let them log it taking those immigrants back to their home countries. At least the flights would not cost us a dime we aren't spending anyway.

 

[Mac-7]

Just for you....

There aren’t 30 million immigrants in the U.S. illegally

Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., a possible vice presidential pick for former President Donald Trump, said he supports Trump’s

www.politifact.com

In April, the Department of Homeland Security estimated that as of January 2022, 11 million unauthorized immigrants were living in the U.S. That’s up from the 10.5 million estimated in January 2020.

• Different immigration groups, using different methodologies, estimate that the population here illegally ranges from 10.9 million to 16.8 million.
• Immigration officials have stopped people trying to enter the U.S. illegally 9.5 million times under President Joe Biden’s administration. But that doesn’t mean 9.5 million people are now living in the U.S.; millions were not allowed in.
• People dying, leaving the U.S. or legalizing their immigration status change the population-here-illegally number.

"The several organizations that have long issued authoritative data based on rigorous methodologies estimate that the unauthorized population is more in the 11 million range," said Michelle Mittelstadt, communications director for the Migration Policy Institute, a nonpartisan think tank

​

Under Biden’s administration, immigration officials have encountered immigrants trying to illegally cross the border more than 9.5 million times.

But that doesn’t mean that nearly 10 million more people are now living in the U.S. illegally.

Encounters represent events, not people. If one person tries to enter the country three different times and is stopped each time by border officials, for example, that equals three encounters, even if it’s the same person encountered.

"It’s too simple to suggest based on record arrivals at the U.S.-Mexico border that the unauthorized population is swelling by many millions of people," Mittelstadt said.

Also, not everyone encountered illegally crossing the border is allowed to settle in the U.S. As of January 2024, the latest month with available data under Biden, around 3.9 million encounters had resulted in people being removed, returned or expelled from the U.S.

Besides encounters, DHS estimates that about 391,000 people have evaded border authorities. (The latest "got-aways" data DHS has published is for fiscal year 2021, which ran from Oct. 1, 2020, to Sept. 30, 2021, and includes about four months of the Trump administration.)

There is no authoritative answer to the number of illegals or fake asylum seekers living in the US

Anyone who says they know for sure, including the government, are liars

I use the term “up to” 40 million because I am just guessing along with libs who prefer to use the piddling (and insulting) figure of 11 million