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I was reading this article yesterday and one of the posters said that this poll had 22% College educated, when the U.S National number is 5%, 12% Graduate degrees, when the National number is 1%.
Todays top comment, is from this guy: "Check out the party affiliation of respondents and you will know why Biden is up 14%. That happens when you primarily poll individuals that lean toward the Democratic party, which the pollsters did in this instance. Despite Republicans having a +2% advantage nationally, this poll had a +9% advantage for the Democrats. Poll is meaningless unless it reflects breakdown of expected voters by party."
This, on top of the fact that many Trump supporters don't even respond, or, just lie. So, media are taking the same approach as they did with Hillary, lie, exaggerate, provide skewed polls that are not reflective.
The question is, why do they do this? What are they trying to convince citizens of, so as to not be surprised about a particular result even as you see the vast difference in enthusiasm?
I'm a data guy, I work through datasets myself and even build models on some of the data, be it from Kaggle, or my own web scraping efforts. Even if they need to do so in the title, they should state, "we polled 7% more Dems than GOP.
They are presenting an NBS/WSJ poll as if it is the Gospel. On Fox News...
Biden up 14 points on Trump following chaotic debate, new poll indicates
A new poll shows Democratic nominee Joe Biden with a 14 point lead nationally over President Trump, following the first presidential debate last week.
The survey, which was conducted by NBC News and The Wall Street Journal, was taken between Sept. 30 and Oct. 1 and covered 800 registered voters. It had a margin of error of around 3.5 percent.
The results showed 53 percent of respondents said they'd vote for the former vice president, compared to 39 percent for Trump.
The president has maintained, however, that polling and pundit analysis of his White House chances contain overt bias and was part of the reason why he defeated Hillary Clinton, despite most experts' predictions to the contrary.
Todays top comment, is from this guy: "Check out the party affiliation of respondents and you will know why Biden is up 14%. That happens when you primarily poll individuals that lean toward the Democratic party, which the pollsters did in this instance. Despite Republicans having a +2% advantage nationally, this poll had a +9% advantage for the Democrats. Poll is meaningless unless it reflects breakdown of expected voters by party."
This, on top of the fact that many Trump supporters don't even respond, or, just lie. So, media are taking the same approach as they did with Hillary, lie, exaggerate, provide skewed polls that are not reflective.
The question is, why do they do this? What are they trying to convince citizens of, so as to not be surprised about a particular result even as you see the vast difference in enthusiasm?
I'm a data guy, I work through datasets myself and even build models on some of the data, be it from Kaggle, or my own web scraping efforts. Even if they need to do so in the title, they should state, "we polled 7% more Dems than GOP.
They are presenting an NBS/WSJ poll as if it is the Gospel. On Fox News...
Biden up 14 points on Trump following chaotic debate, new poll indicates
A new poll shows Democratic nominee Joe Biden with a 14 point lead nationally over President Trump, following the first presidential debate last week.
The survey, which was conducted by NBC News and The Wall Street Journal, was taken between Sept. 30 and Oct. 1 and covered 800 registered voters. It had a margin of error of around 3.5 percent.
The results showed 53 percent of respondents said they'd vote for the former vice president, compared to 39 percent for Trump.
The president has maintained, however, that polling and pundit analysis of his White House chances contain overt bias and was part of the reason why he defeated Hillary Clinton, despite most experts' predictions to the contrary.
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