Summary of Evidence Released - What It Says

[Manonthestreet]

Senior FBI and CIA officials (as well as a number of prominent Democrats) accused Trump of endangering national security by releasing the memo. This recalls the old Soviet-era joke about the Radio Yerevan listener who calls into ask whether it’s a crime to call Brezhnev an idiot. The answer: “Yes, because it’s a state secret.”

This is political plutonium.

Here are the basic facts:
Trump triumphs with release of House intel memo

 

[Hutch Starskey]

jebus christo, you are just bat shit crazy!

No, that would be you. A FISA Warrant was issued because the Judge was led yo believe in the veracity of the "Dossier". A "Dossier" that is completely false.

This is where your whole delusional house of cards fails.

You all retardedly believe the dossier to be completely false.

The truth is, you don't know that.

dude, it's been confirmed all over the place. ask any GOP congress person.

It hasn't. Search it up and post it.

read the fking memo.

The memo doesn't make a judgement on the veracity of the dossier, dope.

 

[longknife]

House Intelligence memo released: What it says


* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the intial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.


* Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

* The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

* DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.

I just read the memo and it clearly shows that the FBI and DOJ knew the source material was fake and used it anyway in an effort to stop Donald Trump from being elected president. Mueller should instantly shut down his investigation!

 

[sealybobo]

Seriously everyone how is this being ignored? Two years ago republicans were crying that Obama was meddling in the Hillary email scandal.

Fast forward to today trump fired Comey for not pledging loyalty and asked the new fbi guy if he was on his team.

You republicans are intellectually dishonest and deplorable

 

[Hutch Starskey]

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I can compare this to Geraldo Rivera's TV spectacular about opening Capone's vault.

And the dossier that clinton had steele lie about was the gospel.....right?

jebus christo, you are just bat shit crazy!

No, that would be you. A FISA Warrant was issued because the Judge was led yo believe in the veracity of the "Dossier". A "Dossier" that is completely false.

This is where your whole delusional house of cards fails.

You all retardedly believe the dossier to be completely false.

The truth is, you don't know that.

LOL, this is where your entire world falls apart the entire "Dossier is unproven and has been for over a year. It was the ONLY evidence used to get a FISA Warrant. That makes any and ALL evidence or potential evidence null and void because it was illegally obtained. You guys are having a BAD week.

Oh yes, you do know that the burden of proof rests on the accuser right? You DO know that right? You DO know it's out there since October of 2016 and none of it has been proven true, you DO know that right? Moron.

So now it's "unproven" rather than "completely false"? Nice flip.

That makes any and ALL evidence or potential evidence null and void because it was illegally obtained.

How was it illegal?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Update: The latest Analysis From CNN:

What the Nunes memo actually proves (Not much) - CNNPolitics

Selected Excerpts

The memo's biggest claim is that then-Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe told the House Intelligence Committee that no FISA warrant would have been issued relating to one-time Trump campaign adviser Carter Page without the so-called Steele dossier -- the work of a former British spy named Christopher Steele that was being secretly funded by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's campaign. The House Intelligence Committee was not made aware of the financing behind the Steele dossier during its investigation.

That could be a big deal. Except, we don't know for sure that the timeline of events -- and the reporting on who said what when -- in the Nunes memo correlates with the objective truth. Why? Because the actual FISA court warrants are classified. And because Democratic sources familiar with the Intelligence Committee testimony suggested Friday that McCabe did not, in fact, say that the FISA warrant would have never been issued if not for the Steele dossier.

McCabe admitted to reliance on the Steele dossier -- portions of which have never been confirmed by the FBI! And he didn't tell the Intelligence Committee who was paying for the memo! And a bunch of Justice Department officials -- including current Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein -- signed off on one of these FISA warrants!

Actually, that could be trouble for the FBI

It might be! But, here's the thing: We -- and Trump -- have no way of knowing that because, not to beat a dead horse, but a) The FISA warrants in question are still classified and b) We don't know for sure that what Nunes said McCabe said is the full picture.

hashtag #releasethememo has been a steady drumbeat for Republicans convinced, like Trump, that something's rotten in the Justice Department. Democrats have, on the other hand, lined up in unanimous opposition to the release of the memo -- suggesting it represents not only a break with the apolitical way in which the Intelligence Committee has operated in the past but also creates a real threat to the country going forward.

The FBI is run by a man named Christopher Wray. He was Trump's hand-picked successor after the President fired James Comey. Rosenstein, who is tasked with overseeing the investigation into Russia's attempted meddling in the 2016 election because Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself, is, like Wray, a pick of Trump's Justice Department.
And yet, both men opposed the release of the Nunes memo.

So. The FBI, which is run by a man Trump hand-picked to run it, says the memo commits the sin of omission and, by doing so, doesn't present a totally accurate picture.

So, can we all go home now?

the Steele dossier has been largely confirmed. Steele was the only person who saw Donald's corruption who was decent enough to report it to the FBI. and that dossier wasn't initially a dem project. it was oppo research for a GOP candidate.

as to the FISA warrant, this was a renewal of the FISA warrant on Carter Page, who was long a subject of surveillance because of his shady dealings with Russian spies.

You're lie, if not, prove it has been confirmed. Go ahead, show us sweet cheeks.

Some good reading:

Here is the Nunes memo:

http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/20180129/106822/HMTG-115-IG00-20180129-SD001.pdf

Here is an explanation on how to get a FISA warrant.

https://fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/sojudge.pdf

I've read it, I also know full well how the FISC works, sorry.

Sure you do. That's why you believe the evidence from the dossier is a disqualifier.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

House Intelligence memo released: What it says


* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the intial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.


* Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

* The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

* DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.

BUH-BAM!


In 2016 Ohr meets with Steele, determines he is extremely biased and 'desperate for Trump not to become President'.
- Ohr tells the leadership of the FBI this information. Both the leadership of the FBI and DOJ knew this to be the case!

The FBI and DOJ then seek FISA warrants to SPY ON THE POLITICAL OPPOSITION PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AND HIS TEAM DURING A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION using the KNOWN unverified dossier provided by a KNOWN biased foreign spy ... 'desperate' to prevent Trump from becoming President ... as their basis to obtain FISA Warrants to do so.

McCabe even confirms THE FBI AND DOJ WOULD NOT HAVE SOUGHT THE FISA WARRANTS WITHOUT THE DOSSIER!

So if I hate my neighbor and know he grows pot illegally in his basement and I turn him in. The charges won't stick because I didn't like him?

They won't if you spin stories about him getting your dog to pee on your bed when he didn't.

Huh?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

From the look of things it's just going to corroborate what Conservatives have been saying all along.

The dems are fucked!!

Some points... FISA court order NEVER knew that Democrats paid for the Steele Dossier. Court didn't know who bankrolled as that was necessary for the FISA warrant to spy
on an American.

Is that relevant?

Yes.

How do you know?

 

[sealybobo]

`
I can compare this to Geraldo Rivera's TV spectacular about opening Capone's vault.

And the dossier that clinton had steele lie about was the gospel.....right?

jebus christo, you are just bat shit crazy!

No, that would be you. A FISA Warrant was issued because the Judge was led yo believe in the veracity of the "Dossier". A "Dossier" that is completely false.

This is where your whole delusional house of cards fails.

You all retardedly believe the dossier to be completely false.

The truth is, you don't know that.

LOL, this is where your entire world falls apart the entire "Dossier is unproven and has been for over a year. It was the ONLY evidence used to get a FISA Warrant. That makes any and ALL evidence or potential evidence null and void because it was illegally obtained. You guys are having a BAD week.

Oh yes, you do know that the burden of proof rests on the accuser right? You DO know that right? You DO know it's out there since October of 2016 and none of it has been proven true, you DO know that right? Moron.

The guy the fbi was spying on for his work with Russia was under investigation before he went to work for trump.

We know trump has hired leakers and Russian. Remember he said he’d surround himself with the best people? Like Paul mana fort and bannon?

 

[Ridgerunner]

I Bet it is difficult to get an appointment with a criminal attorney in D.C. today... I wish someone would set up a list of the players and set odds who turns out to be the biggest snitches... Knowing the weak-kneed, nose dribbling, pole puffers will be trying to save their own ass's... Who will wear the black hood of shame first?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I have a feeling this will be rather underwhelming

Not really. If it is true that the FISA court was mislead to believe that the dossier was a straight up surveillance document and was not given information that Steele was paid, the document had political motivations to sway an election, and that senior FBI and DOJ officials were keeping this purposely from the FISA court ?
Then this looks pretty big, and actually FBI officials are not supposed to take political sides like that. we will see though

the document had political motivations to sway an election,

How does it sway an election when it was classified, dope?

It was used to allow spying on a candidate. Now, the spying didn't turn anything up, but it was still spying.

How does a FISA warrant specific to Carter Page who had left the campaign before the start of the warrant allow the candidate to be spied on?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Neat. Nobody on the committee is accused of breaking the law so your point doesn't mean shit.

Known illegally acquiring of FISA warrants to illegally spy on the opposing political Presidential candidate and his team during a Presidential election ('Watergate on Mega-steroids)...

Conspiring with a known, desperate biased foreign spy to attempt to undermine / overthrow the President / Interfere in a US election...

Conspiracy - Obama administration, DOJ, FBI...

Sedition...

Treason...

View attachment 174596

Bwuhahaha.......

Known illegally acquiring of FISA warrants to illegally spy on the opposing political Presidential candidate and his team during a Presidential election ('Watergate on Mega-steroids)...

Show us anywhere in that memo that states the warrant was obtained illegally, liar.

Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy. The memo points out the lack of disclosure regarding who paid for Steele's dossier, Ohr's wife's work for Fusion GPS, the fact that the Yahoo News story was planted by Steele... for starters.

These are material facts not provides to the FISA court. The law requires evidence that would be favorable to the target to be presented. The Dem Embeds conspired to not do so.

You made that shit up. You have no idea if any of those were even necessary disclosures or disqualifying omissions.

I most certainly did not. I actually read the memo; clearly you did not. But that's hardly a surprise as I doubt that reading comprehension is one of your core skill sets.

The memo is not the FISA affidavit.

 

[Billy_Bob]

House Intelligence memo released: What it says


* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the intial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.


* Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

* The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

* DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.

I just read the memo and it clearly shows that the FBI and DOJ knew the source material was fake and used it anyway in an effort to stop Donald Trump from being elected president. Mueller should instantly shut down his investigation!

Flynn just filed suit against the DOJ and an emergency injunction request earlier today to vacate his plea.....

Its nice to be vindicated by the facts...

Fruit of the Poisonous Tree... The whole Mueller investigation is in shambles now..

 

[Lumpy 1]

Seriously everyone how is this being ignored? Two years ago republicans were crying that Obama was meddling in the Hillary email scandal.

Fast forward to today trump fired Comey for not pledging loyalty and asked the new fbi guy if he was on his team.

You republicans are intellectually dishonest and deplorable

Comey is a traitor and a leaker, the perfect Democrat..

and btw. review the parasite news you've been sucking up..

Eric Holder: 'I'm still the president's wingman'

 

[Hutch Starskey]

No one here on the left will ever admit their dear party has ever done anything underhanded. We can post actual verified evidence, they still spin and twist in the wind.

We can post actual verified evidence,

You can?

Well hell, man. Why don't you then?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

House Intelligence memo released: What it says


* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the intial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.


* Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

* The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

* DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.

I just read the memo and it clearly shows that the FBI and DOJ knew the source material was fake and used it anyway in an effort to stop Donald Trump from being elected president. Mueller should instantly shut down his investigation!

Flynn just filed suit against the DOJ and an emergency injunction request earlier today to vacate his plea.....

Its nice to be vindicated by the facts...

Fruit of the Poisonous Tree... The whole Mueller investigation is in shambles now..

Liar.

 

[Lewdog]

House Intelligence memo released: What it says


* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the intial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.


* Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

* The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

* DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.

I just read the memo and it clearly shows that the FBI and DOJ knew the source material was fake and used it anyway in an effort to stop Donald Trump from being elected president. Mueller should instantly shut down his investigation!

Flynn just filed suit against the DOJ and an emergency injunction request earlier today to vacate his plea.....

Its nice to be vindicated by the facts...

Fruit of the Poisonous Tree... The whole Mueller investigation is in shambles now..

Holy shit you lie more than any member on this forum.

Did this come from the same person that told you the Charlottesville Police helicopter was shot down by ANTIFA?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Do you have Russia in your "Russia Investigation? Hello?"

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Neat. Nobody on the committee is accused of breaking the law so your point doesn't mean shit.

Known illegally acquiring of FISA warrants to illegally spy on the opposing political Presidential candidate and his team during a Presidential election ('Watergate on Mega-steroids)...

Conspiring with a known, desperate biased foreign spy to attempt to undermine / overthrow the President / Interfere in a US election...

Conspiracy - Obama administration, DOJ, FBI...

Sedition...

Treason...

View attachment 174596

Bwuhahaha.......

Known illegally acquiring of FISA warrants to illegally spy on the opposing political Presidential candidate and his team during a Presidential election ('Watergate on Mega-steroids)...

Show us anywhere in that memo that states the warrant was obtained illegally, liar.

Memo doesn't have to say it's illegal.

Lying to court, or presenting false information to the court in order to obtain the warrant is illegal.

Do you need any further explanation, or you got it?

What false information?

The dossier. It's made up and unverified information.

Also, omitting the information from court to obtain a warrant is illegal. Is that clear, or you need clarification?

Yes, the FISA judge was fooled by the "fake" dossier.


Fool.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Failed coup

"When a plot against the emperor failed, the plotters were given a chance for their families to keep their fortunes."