Suckers: We Were Right All Along!

[Big Bend Texas]

With over 6 million dead from covid, it tells me you're lying again.

The case mortality rate is about 1.2% and that only includes reported cases.

Total mortality in the US is about .308%.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Spot on.

It was always the co-morbidities.....the same things that always killed folks.


. Folks died from what folks always died of: heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia.The scam was easy to pull off due to two factors:
The media is nothing more than Democrats with press passes.
The majority of the public, it seems, is too fearful of the cancel culture to dare to confront, or even question.

The facts:

“… leading causes of death:

The 10 leading causes of death in 2018 remained the same as in 2017. In 2018, the 10 leading causes of death (heart disease, cancer, unintentional injuries, chronic lower respiratory diseases, stroke, Alzheimer disease, diabetes, influenza and pneumonia, kidney disease, and suicide) remained the same as in 2017. Causes of death are ranked according to number of deaths (1). The 10 leading causes accounted for 73.8% of all deaths in the United States in 2018.

A total of 2,839,205 resident deaths were registered in the United States in 2018.” Products - Data Briefs - Number 355 - January 2020


7,778 die each and every day.

With those numbers in mind, and remembering that lots of those deaths, related to the flu or not, were claimed to be due to the covid…..how difficult was it for the anti-Trump forces and their media allies, to keep the public scared to death…and have that work against the most accomplished President in a long, long time?

The Covid 19 outbreak began in October of 2019 so your data is irrelevant to the outbreak.

Covid rarely kills the young and healthy without about 97% of all Covid deaths being in the 55 and older population and roughly 90% of those deaths were in people with 3 or more comorbid conditions and/or compromised immune systems.

Covid accelerated the deaths of about a half million or more people with those comorbid conditions but because of thee reporting requirements and fraud we'll never know what the real numbers are.

Covid was weaponized to defeat Trump and science was thrown out the door. Over 2 trillion dollars went to hospitals and other providers based on the number of Covid cases and deaths they reported.

You could not design conditions more ripe for fraud in reporting or policy.

 

[Nova78]

America is still in existence it has not been destroyed, although Maoist like you think they need to kill off half the population to start your progroms against Americans you hate but it ain't gonna happen.

Biden is a walking fuck stick.

Trumpettes are still so butthurt they claim a pandemic was fake because Trump failed to cure it with his Trump vaccines he paid people to produce without trials.

wtf?

 

[Big Bend Texas]

The 10 leading causes of death in 2018 remained the same as in 2017.

A total of 2,839,205 resident deaths were registered in the United States in 2018.

Dumbfuck, then why the drastic increases of death, 3,383,729, in 2020 if not for covid?

FastStats

FastStats is an official application from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) and puts access to topic-specific statistics at your fingertips.

www.cdc.gov

Are you ever not a dupe?

Ever???

Suicides, OD's and other causes made up a fair portion of that increase.

To actually know where those increases come from you'd have to compare deaths by cause between 2020 and 2019 and adjust for increases in population.

 

[Faun]

The case mortality rate is about 1.2% and that only includes reported cases.

Total mortality in the US is about .308%.

The mortality rate is not calculated by dividing the total population by the number of covid deaths.

Over 6 million dead. It's time you dealt with reality.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

The mortality rate is not calculated by dividing the total population by the number of covid deaths.

Over 6 million dead. It's time you dealt with reality.

That's exactly how total mortality is calculated you moron.

Case mortality rate is calculated by taking the total number of deaths / reported cases x 100.

Total mortality is total number of deaths /total population x 100.

Take an intro to epidemiology course and maybe we can have an intelligent discussion if you pass.

 

[Chillicothe]

Biden is a walking fuck stick.

And therein lies the conundrum too many of the MAGA-world find themselves in too often.
They have within their ranks some who will not...or rather, cannot? ..... offer nothing but crass vulgarities.
Crass vulgarities representing their most cogent argument for their cause.
It makes 'em all look less than they should want to look.

Yeah, I don't get it either.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

And therein lies the conundrum too many of the MAGA-world find themselves in too often.
They have within their ranks some who will not...or rather, cannot? ..... offer nothing but crass vulgarities.
Crass vulgarities representing their most cogent argument for their cause.
It makes 'em all look less than they should want to look.

Yeah, I don't get it either.

 

[Thinker101]

And therein lies the conundrum too many of the MAGA-world find themselves in too often.
They have within their ranks some who will not...or rather, cannot? ..... offer nothing but crass vulgarities.
Crass vulgarities representing their most cogent argument for their cause.
It makes 'em all look less than they should want to look.

Yeah, I don't get it either.

Meanwhile, you ass-wipes do nothing but blame others and refuse to take responsibility for any of the damage you've inflicted on Americans.

 

[Faun]

Suicides, OD's and other causes made up a fair portion of that increase.

To actually know where those increases come from you'd have to compare deaths by cause between 2020 and 2019 and adjust for increases in population.

False. Suicides dropped out of the top 10 leading causes in 2020. All other causes did increase by 77K but that 77K now includes suicides. So all other causes did not significantly increase to account for the overall 500K+ deaths in 2020. Then there's covid, accounting for some 70% of that more than half million increase.

Try posting in reality.

 

[Faun]

In typical liars' fashion, we see yet another yokel posting an edited video to make a point the full video doesn't show.

Starting from 37:50 in the full uncut video, we see Biden was neither list nor ignored...

 

[Big Bend Texas]

In typical liars' fashion, we see yet another yokel posting an edited video to make a point the full video doesn't show.

Starting from 37:50 in the full uncut video, we see Biden was neither list nor ignored...

No, that's not what we see, it's what you want to see.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

False. Suicides dropped out of the top 10 leading causes in 2020. All other causes did increase by 77K but that 77K now includes suicides. So all other causes did not significantly increase to account for the overall 500K+ deaths in 2020. Then there's covid, accounting for some 70% of that more than half million increase.

Try posting in reality.

No it didn't.

Suicide was among the 10 leading causes of death in the United States in 2020 among persons aged 10–64 years, and the second leading cause of death among children and adolescents aged 10–14 and adults aged 25–34 years (1). During 1999–2020, nearly 840,000 lives were lost to suicide in the United States. During that period, the overall suicide rate peaked in 2018 and declined in 2019 and 2020 (1). Despite the recent decline in the suicide rate, factors such as social isolation, economic decline, family stressors, new or worsening mental health symptoms, and disruptions to work and school associated with the COVID-19 pandemic have raised concerns about suicide risk in the United States. During 2020, a total of 12.2 million U.S. adults reported serious thoughts of suicide and 1.2 million attempted suicide (2). To understand how changes in suicide death rates might have varied among subpopulations, CDC analyzed counts and age-adjusted suicide rates during 2019 and 2020 by demographic characteristics, mechanism of injury, county urbanization level, and state. From 2019 to 2020, the suicide rate declined by 3% overall, including 8% among females and 2% among males. Significant declines occurred in seven states but remained stable in the other states and the District of Columbia. Despite two consecutive years of declines, the overall suicide rate remains 30% higher compared with that in 2000 (1). A comprehensive approach to suicide prevention that uses data driven decision-making and implements prevention strategies with the best available evidence, especially among disproportionately affected populations (3), is critical to realizing further declines in suicide and reaching the national goal of reducing the suicide rate by 20% by 2025 (4).

The Leading Causes of Death in the US for 2020

This Viewpoint from the US National Center for Health Statistics reports a 2020 mortality estimate 17.7% higher than that of 2019, with leading causes of death comprising heart disease, cancer, and COVID-19.

jamanetwork.com

Changes in Suicide Rates — United States, 2019 and 2020

This report describes changes in U.S. suicide rates from 2019 to 2020.

www.cdc.gov

While there was a slight overall drop mostly in the over 65 crowd, there was a significant increase in school aged kids attributed to the extended lockdowns and school closures.

Across all racial/ethnic and age group strata, males experienced higher suicide rates than did females during 2019–2020 (Figure 1). Among both male and female non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native, non-Hispanic Asian, non-Hispanic Black or African American, non-Hispanic multiracial, and Hispanic persons, rates were highest in persons aged 15–24 or 25–34 years. Among non-Hispanic White females, rates peaked in those aged 45–54 years. Non-Hispanic White males experienced consistently high rates (35.1–37.4 per 100,000) in all age groups from 25–34 to ≥65 years. Subgroups with the highest suicide rates were non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native males aged 25–34 years (71.1) and 15–24 years (59.7), and non-Hispanic Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander males aged 25–34 years (49.1).

Changes in Suicide Rates — United States, 2019 and 2020

This report describes changes in U.S. suicide rates from 2019 to 2020.

www.cdc.gov

Not surprisingly the vast majority of deaths associated with Covid were in the over 55 demographic which explains some of the reduction in elderly suicides.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I recognize the points the poster Chic is attempting to make.
If you die of influenza......then it ain't a Covid death.
It is reminiscent of the discussions years ago over AIDS.
Meaning, very very few gay men.....or anybody else for that matter......died of AIDS.
Rather the weakening created by the debilitating effect of the AIDS infection created the opportunity for influenza, pneumonia, heart......to kill 'em first.

But make no mistake...AIDS, or Covid.......led to those respiratory failures, or affiliated causes of death.
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Indeed, the poster Faun rightly points out the issue of 'excess' deaths.
America has a fairly good methodology for tracking or enumerating the deaths occurring within its population from year to year.
Which allows for somewhat of a 'baseline' that can be used predict future mortality across its 330 million people.
This stuff ain't rocket science. After all, insurance company actuaries do this stuff everyday, and have for generations.

So, in America's case, or for that matter, the world's case........it is not a difficult task to note that MORE deaths occurred during a given time than what actuarial statistics would inform us SHOULD have occurred.

".... Chic is attempting to make."

They use words, but don't know what they mean.


Attempting????


Everything I posted was linked, sourced and documented.



Folks like you, who swallow Marxist propaganda wholesale, are certainly not equipped to make any judgements at all.


And this is proven by your fear of announcing who you voted for, isn't it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The case mortality rate is about 1.2% and that only includes reported cases.

Total mortality in the US is about .308%.

But good enough for the Wehrmacht.....er, Democrats......to close down a successful economy and blame Trump.


Ironic how stealing the election turned out for them.

 

[Faun]

No, that's not what we see, it's what you want to see.

I posted the full video exposing your lie. Continue lying at your own risk.

 

[Faun]

No it didn't.


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The Leading Causes of Death in the US for 2020

This Viewpoint from the US National Center for Health Statistics reports a 2020 mortality estimate 17.7% higher than that of 2019, with leading causes of death comprising heart disease, cancer, and COVID-19.

jamanetwork.com

Changes in Suicide Rates — United States, 2019 and 2020

This report describes changes in U.S. suicide rates from 2019 to 2020.

www.cdc.gov

While there was a slight overall drop mostly in the over 65 crowd, there was a significant increase in school aged kids attributed to the extended lockdowns and school closures.

Changes in Suicide Rates — United States, 2019 and 2020

This report describes changes in U.S. suicide rates from 2019 to 2020.

www.cdc.gov

Not surprisingly the vast majority of deaths associated with Covid were in the over 55 demographic which explains some of the reduction in elderly suicides.

Moron, suicide dropped out of the top 10 causes of death and decreased from 2019, just as i said. Your own chart shows that.

I love it when the yokes claim I'm wrong but then proceed to prove me right!

 

[Chillicothe]

And this is proven by your fear of announcing who you voted for, isn't it.

Ah, good poster Chic, I am mildly flattered in your interest over my voting record. It is nice, I suppose, for folks to be so influenced by who I might vote for.

But, you know poster Chic......one has gotta be careful on internet social media relationships that it doesn't edge over into a stalking-thingy.
Not exactly saying that is what is going on here, but rather, just to make you aware of behaviors that some may look somewhat askance at.
Just sayin'.

(ps.....if this helps: I won't vote for Marjorie Taylor Greene, nor Lauren Boebert, Paul Gosar, Madison Cawthorn. Those folks ain't representing the Republican party favorably. They make it look bad, which pains me as I have often enough voted Republican. And Democrat. And 3rd Party.
That's just who I am.
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But good enough for the Wehrmacht.....er, Democrats......to close down a successful economy and blame Trump. Ironic how stealing the election turned out for them.

Ah, good poster Chic, still on that "stealing-the-election" fantagasm?
How's that workin' out for you?
Got any new news you can share with the forum on your efforts to get that issue brought before proper authorities (whining and caterwauling on social media don't count).....but anyway, how did your discussions with the FBI, or your state's top election official, or hell, even your local sheriff go?

Please don't just be another shrilling recluse-with-a-keyboard who doesn't believe in engaging real people in the real world.

Be a better you, Chic.

Good luck.

 

[Chillicothe]

Hitching onto the topic of Covid and its impacts, there was this really interesting article in the Washington Post with the last few days. I found it quite informative.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/05/07/one-million-covid-deaths-families/

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"After 1 million deaths, covid leaves millions more forever changed​

One million dead: The U.S. death toll from the covid-19 pandemic will hit that unfathomable number this week, and yet there is a far larger number that reflects the true impact this virus has had on Americans over the past two years. That number is 9 million — the number of Americans who have lost spouses, parents, grandparents, siblings and children to covid.

Sociologists at Penn State and the University of Southern California came up with a “bereavement multiplier,” a way to calculate how many close relatives each covid death leaves behind and bereft. The answer, on average, is nine — not including extended family or close friends, longtime co-workers or next-door neighbors, many of whom, the study said, are deeply affected, too.

Covid quickly became the third-biggest killer of Americans, behind only heart disease and cancer, according to federal statistics for 2020. One million is how many people live in San Jose, Calif., or Austin, Tex. It’s more people than live in the six smallest states or D.C......

In all likelihood, the death toll is significantly higher than the official 1 million, the National Center for Health Statistics reports, noting that some Americans whose death certificates list heart attacks or hypertensive disease likely had undiagnosed coronavirus infections.

Americans have died of covid at a higher rate than in any other major industrialized country,"
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So there is that.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ah, good poster Chic, I am mildly flattered in your interest over my voting record. It is nice, I suppose, for folks to be so influenced by who I might vote for.

But, you know poster Chic......one has gotta be careful on internet social media relationships that it doesn't edge over into a stalking-thingy.
Not exactly saying that is what is going on here, but rather, just to make you aware of behaviors that some may look somewhat askance at.
Just sayin'.

(ps.....if this helps: I won't vote for Marjorie Taylor Greene, nor Lauren Boebert, Paul Gosar, Madison Cawthorn. Those folks ain't representing the Republican party favorably. They make it look bad, which pains me as I have often enough voted Republican. And Democrat. And 3rd Party.
That's just who I am.
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Ah, good poster Chic, still on that "stealing-the-election" fantagasm?
How's that workin' out for you?
Got any new news you can share with the forum on your efforts to get that issue brought before proper authorities (whining and caterwauling on social media don't count).....but anyway, how did your discussions with the FBI, or your state's top election official, or hell, even your local sheriff go?

Please don't just be another shrilling recluse-with-a-keyboard who doesn't believe in engaging real people in the real world.

Be a better you, Chic.

Good luck.

And here's why it is important:

You made the absurd claim that the Marxist screed about how terrible America is made you 'a bette American,'
.....and you vote for the party that embraces the very same doctrines as the Communist Party USA:
How about you take a look at the aims of the Communist Party, USA, and the aims of the modern Democrat Party.



Watch, and note the consubstantial basis of both the aims of the Communist Party and the Democrat Party:

......it is ...extraordinary.....the correspondence between the aims of the communist party and the aims of the Democrats.....

1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.

3. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

4. . Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

7. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

8. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


11. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

12. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

13. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce



Now....wouldn't an honest appraisal agree that all or almost all are clearly the aims and direction of Democrats/Liberals/Progressive leaders?

I got 'em from a website of declared communist goals...

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals



You might take a look at this one, too.
10 planks of Communist manifesto
Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.



"Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street"
Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street - Shadowproof

And this:

"Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too.Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917(Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately."
Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.


They didn't call it ObamaCare....




....we are now free of that inordinate fear of communism.... Jimmy Carter Jimmy Carter: UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME - Address at Commencement Exercises at the University


President Barack Obama downplayed the differences between capitalism and communism, claiming that they are just “intellectual arguments.” He urged those at a town hall eventin Buenos Aires, Argentina on Wednesday to “just choose from what works.”
Obama Downplays Difference Between Capitalism, Communism [VIDEO]




Who'd you vote for????