Students at West Texas school district feel safe with staff who carry concealed weapons

[Dragonlady]

And the Florida school had armed guards, and shooter protocols which they followed. The shooter was spotted as he entered the building and a report called in before a single shot was fired. Theybdid everything right but their efforts were of no help to prevent the carnage.

 

[Dragonlady]

Here is what Google tells me:

Minimum Age for Gun Possession: Subject to limited exceptions*, federal law prohibits the possession of a handgun or handgun ammunition by any person under the age of 18. Federal law provides no minimum age for the possession of longguns or long gun ammunition.

And states reserve the right to create their own gun laws.

Would you really want Johnny Jim Bob cleaning his shotgun right next to your daughter's head in math class? Might make it a little difficult for her to pay attention, no? I mean, that's the kind of Wild West environment you seem to be promoting, where the only rule is few vague lines of text in the constitution.

Whaaaa? Your ignorance of gun culture is astounding. Nobody cleans a gun in public, much less next to anyone's head. A concealed carry weapon is just a tool. it's something you put in a secure hidden place on you until the need arises. I don't even unholster mine when I get home: I merely take the holster off the belt with the pistol intact, and set it on the nightstand, pointing in a safe direction.

Besides, nobody I know of has ever tried to carry a shotgun or a rifle concealed.

I don't want to be rude, but your ignorance of human beings appears to be astounding, considering you think that everyone is just going to follow these unspoken rules. Let alone young kids still in their teens.

High school kids can barely handle their cell phones. You want them walking around with guns? Something that can so easily take someone's life? They don't need that kind of power at their hip, and I find it difficult to believe that anyone who knows high school could disagree with me on that.

Nobody said anything about "them" walking around with guns. All it it takes is one armed person. You're imagining a bunch of armed people.

There was one armed person at Columbine...there was one armed person in Florida during the Valentine's day massacre.

That's the way the dice came up when they rolled. But one armed person is better then none.

Really? Because they didn’t prevent or stop the shooter from carrying out the worst high school shooting ever in the US.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Outstanding! Every time I see one of those "No Weapons or Firearms" signs posted somewhere, it makes me think how they might as well put up a sign reading "Robbers and Murderers Welcome Here."

Our concealed carry law allows businesses to post that no firearms are allowed on the premise. I always ignore the signs because the penalty is only a simple trespassing ticket if they find out I'm carrying, and I refused to leave.

Unfortunately, I don't carry on school property or in a post office. The federal gun-free school zone law hasn't been over-ridden by the state here, so I have to pull over within 1,000 feet of the school property, unload my weapon, and place it in the trunk. Even off-duty law-enforcement officers have to do that. This is rather stupid, as it increases the possibility of an accidental discharge when you have to load or unload a firearm.

Except regular students should not be bringing guns to school, so the "no firearms" signs make sense.

I would have no problem with a student who has had the proper training and criminal background checks, carrying. Most everyone who carries on a daily basis has a safe, modern weapon with a secure holster. You strap it on in the morning and it just sits in the holster like it's not even there. It's like your wallet or watch, after awhile, you're not even aware of it.

Students are not supposed to have power over life and death at school. Which is, in the end, what a gun is; a killing machine. Besides that, as far as I know, you have to be 18 to legally possess and wear one, so that would put high school seniors in an awkward position over their younger peers.

Students should NOT be carrying because federal law says you cannot purchase a handgun under the age of 21. That rules out most students.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Outstanding! Every time I see one of those "No Weapons or Firearms" signs posted somewhere, it makes me think how they might as well put up a sign reading "Robbers and Murderers Welcome Here."

Our concealed carry law allows businesses to post that no firearms are allowed on the premise. I always ignore the signs because the penalty is only a simple trespassing ticket if they find out I'm carrying, and I refused to leave.

Unfortunately, I don't carry on school property or in a post office. The federal gun-free school zone law hasn't been over-ridden by the state here, so I have to pull over within 1,000 feet of the school property, unload my weapon, and place it in the trunk. Even off-duty law-enforcement officers have to do that. This is rather stupid, as it increases the possibility of an accidental discharge when you have to load or unload a firearm.

Except regular students should not be bringing guns to school, so the "no firearms" signs make sense.

I would have no problem with a student who has had the proper training and criminal background checks, carrying. Most everyone who carries on a daily basis has a safe, modern weapon with a secure holster. You strap it on in the morning and it just sits in the holster like it's not even there. It's like your wallet or watch, after awhile, you're not even aware of it.

Students are not supposed to have power over life and death at school. Which is, in the end, what a gun is; a killing machine. Besides that, as far as I know, you have to be 18 to legally possess and wear one, so that would put high school seniors in an awkward position over their younger peers.

Students are American citizens, aren't they? Are you saying they don't have the same right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit if happiness"?

You're wrong: There is no age limit to the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution. Just because you're 18 years old, doesn't mean that you should be denied the right to preserve and defend your own life.

Federal law says otherwise.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

You don't find mass shootings in a courthouse.

Actually, there have been numerous shootings in courthouses. Try using google before you make a total fool of yourself.

You just made a fool of yourself. Learn to read. I never said shootings. I said mass shootings.

There is no way around it. Democrats want gun control because they want only thugs and gang bangers armed. Why? Because thugs and gang bangers are most likely to be black or hispanic killing white people and that is the goal.

 

[Timmy]

You don't find mass shootings in a courthouse.

Actually, there have been numerous shootings in courthouses. Try using google before you make a total fool of yourself.

You just made a fool of yourself. Learn to read. I never said shootings. I said mass shootings.

There is no way around it. Democrats want gun control because they want only thugs and gang bangers armed. Why? Because thugs and gang bangers are most likely to be black or hispanic killing white people and that is the goal.

And yet, these mass shooters are usually white men.
Hmmm.

 

[bripat9643]

Cool. It's not going to stop school shootings, though. As we saw in FL.

Hmmm, no, we didn't see that in FL. We saw what happens when there's one security gaurd to protect 3000 students.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

You don't find mass shootings in a courthouse.

Actually, there have been numerous shootings in courthouses. Try using google before you make a total fool of yourself.

You just made a fool of yourself. Learn to read. I never said shootings. I said mass shootings.

There is no way around it. Democrats want gun control because they want only thugs and gang bangers armed. Why? Because thugs and gang bangers are most likely to be black or hispanic killing white people and that is the goal.

And yet, these mass shooters are usually white men.
Hmmm.

Any idea on the numbers on blacks killing people, Timmy? Recently in Chicago an 11 year old girl making Smores wirh her friends caught one in the forehead during a gang shootout. Where is the outrage? Your precious media isn't telling you the real story

 

[John Shaw]

Cool. It's not going to stop school shootings, though. As we saw in FL.

Hmmm, no, we didn't see that in FL. We saw what happens when there's one security gaurd to protect 3000 students.

So what do you suggest? A squad? A platoon? Sounds ... idk. Dystopian. Not to mention very expensive.

 

[John Shaw]

You don't find mass shootings in a courthouse.

Actually, there have been numerous shootings in courthouses. Try using google before you make a total fool of yourself.

You just made a fool of yourself. Learn to read. I never said shootings. I said mass shootings.

There is no way around it. Democrats want gun control because they want only thugs and gang bangers armed. Why? Because thugs and gang bangers are most likely to be black or hispanic killing white people and that is the goal.

Do you have any idea how crazy you sound?

 

[Timmy]

You don't find mass shootings in a courthouse.

Actually, there have been numerous shootings in courthouses. Try using google before you make a total fool of yourself.

You just made a fool of yourself. Learn to read. I never said shootings. I said mass shootings.

There is no way around it. Democrats want gun control because they want only thugs and gang bangers armed. Why? Because thugs and gang bangers are most likely to be black or hispanic killing white people and that is the goal.

And yet, these mass shooters are usually white men.
Hmmm.

Any idea on the numbers on blacks killing people, Timmy? Recently in Chicago an 11 year old girl making Smores wirh her friends caught one in the forehead during a gang shootout. Where is the outrage? Your precious media isn't telling you the real story

There is outrage . But righty freaks refuse to act on the gun problem in our country .

 

[SassyIrishLass]

You don't find mass shootings in a courthouse.

Actually, there have been numerous shootings in courthouses. Try using google before you make a total fool of yourself.

You just made a fool of yourself. Learn to read. I never said shootings. I said mass shootings.

There is no way around it. Democrats want gun control because they want only thugs and gang bangers armed. Why? Because thugs and gang bangers are most likely to be black or hispanic killing white people and that is the goal.

And yet, these mass shooters are usually white men.
Hmmm.

Any idea on the numbers on blacks killing people, Timmy? Recently in Chicago an 11 year old girl making Smores wirh her friends caught one in the forehead during a gang shootout. Where is the outrage? Your precious media isn't telling you the real story

There is outrage . But righty freaks refuse to act on the gun problem in our country .

Lefties passed strict gun control where it happened you ignorant twit. How's that working out?

 

[JGalt]

Whaaaa? Your ignorance of gun culture is astounding. Nobody cleans a gun in public, much less next to anyone's head. A concealed carry weapon is just a tool. it's something you put in a secure hidden place on you until the need arises. I don't even unholster mine when I get home: I merely take the holster off the belt with the pistol intact, and set it on the nightstand, pointing in a safe direction.

Besides, nobody I know of has ever tried to carry a shotgun or a rifle concealed.

I don't want to be rude, but your ignorance of human beings appears to be astounding, considering you think that everyone is just going to follow these unspoken rules. Let alone young kids still in their teens.

High school kids can barely handle their cell phones. You want them walking around with guns? Something that can so easily take someone's life? They don't need that kind of power at their hip, and I find it difficult to believe that anyone who knows high school could disagree with me on that.

Nobody said anything about "them" walking around with guns. All it it takes is one armed person. You're imagining a bunch of armed people.

There was one armed person at Columbine...there was one armed person in Florida during the Valentine's day massacre.

That's the way the dice came up when they rolled. But one armed person is better then none.

Really? Because they didn’t prevent or stop the shooter from carrying out the worst high school shooting ever in the US.

Doesn't mean it happens that way in every case. Far more people's lives have been saved by the presence of a good guy with a gun, than the lives of those lost in the school shooting. Look it up.

 

[JGalt]

Outstanding! Every time I see one of those "No Weapons or Firearms" signs posted somewhere, it makes me think how they might as well put up a sign reading "Robbers and Murderers Welcome Here."

Our concealed carry law allows businesses to post that no firearms are allowed on the premise. I always ignore the signs because the penalty is only a simple trespassing ticket if they find out I'm carrying, and I refused to leave.

Unfortunately, I don't carry on school property or in a post office. The federal gun-free school zone law hasn't been over-ridden by the state here, so I have to pull over within 1,000 feet of the school property, unload my weapon, and place it in the trunk. Even off-duty law-enforcement officers have to do that. This is rather stupid, as it increases the possibility of an accidental discharge when you have to load or unload a firearm.

Except regular students should not be bringing guns to school, so the "no firearms" signs make sense.

I would have no problem with a student who has had the proper training and criminal background checks, carrying. Most everyone who carries on a daily basis has a safe, modern weapon with a secure holster. You strap it on in the morning and it just sits in the holster like it's not even there. It's like your wallet or watch, after awhile, you're not even aware of it.

Students are not supposed to have power over life and death at school. Which is, in the end, what a gun is; a killing machine. Besides that, as far as I know, you have to be 18 to legally possess and wear one, so that would put high school seniors in an awkward position over their younger peers.

Students are American citizens, aren't they? Are you saying they don't have the same right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit if happiness"?

You're wrong: There is no age limit to the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution. Just because you're 18 years old, doesn't mean that you should be denied the right to preserve and defend your own life.

Federal law says otherwise.

I didn't start the thread. You're correct about the minimum legal age for carry. But there should have been more responsibly-armed adults onsite. They could have prevented that.

 

[JGalt]

You don't find mass shootings in a courthouse.

Actually, there have been numerous shootings in courthouses. Try using google before you make a total fool of yourself.

You just made a fool of yourself. Learn to read. I never said shootings. I said mass shootings.

There is no way around it. Democrats want gun control because they want only thugs and gang bangers armed. Why? Because thugs and gang bangers are most likely to be black or hispanic killing white people and that is the goal.

And yet, these mass shooters are usually white men.
Hmmm.

Predominantly liberals. Sure there's evidence this this shithead shooter wasn't a liberal but for the most part, those who come unhinged and commit mass shooting are liberals. Also those who have committed political assassinations in this country: For the most part, they have been leftists.

 

[Timmy]

Actually, there have been numerous shootings in courthouses. Try using google before you make a total fool of yourself.

You just made a fool of yourself. Learn to read. I never said shootings. I said mass shootings.

There is no way around it. Democrats want gun control because they want only thugs and gang bangers armed. Why? Because thugs and gang bangers are most likely to be black or hispanic killing white people and that is the goal.

And yet, these mass shooters are usually white men.
Hmmm.

Any idea on the numbers on blacks killing people, Timmy? Recently in Chicago an 11 year old girl making Smores wirh her friends caught one in the forehead during a gang shootout. Where is the outrage? Your precious media isn't telling you the real story

There is outrage . But righty freaks refuse to act on the gun problem in our country .

Lefties passed strict gun control where it happened you ignorant twit. How's that working out?

Lol, you mean in Florida !? Gun nut central ?

If only they had Massachusetts gun laws . This wouldn’ve happened .

 

[Issa]

So much for the douchebags who claim having teachers carrying concealed weapons would lead to carnage:

Students at West Texas school district feel safe with staff who carry concealed weapons

CLAUDE, TX (KFDA) - Claude Independent School District has several staff members that carry concealed weapons on school grounds.

A sign in front of Claude ISD campuses shows that the district has multiple staff members who carry concealed weapons.
Parents who have children at the school say they feel very safe and comfortable knowing their staff are armed and ready to protect them if they have to.

"It makes me feel really, really safe that we have staff on hand if anything happened," said mother of a Claude ISD student Sarah Hughes.
"It brings me peace of mind."

Since at least 2016, the district has had staff members who carry concealed weapons.

In case of an active shooter, Claude ISD Superintendent Brock Cartwright, says they feel they can keep the school safe.

"Mainly if we can locate the person and try to keep us safe at the same time," said Cartwright.
"When the DPS and officials get here, we back off."

Staff members who carry are required to practice at a shooting range once a month.
They also train with the Armstrong County Sheriff's Office and the Department of Public Safety.

Parents say they feel very safe sending their kids to school with this type of preparedness.

"I don't know who carries, but I do know that if they've taken that dedication, they're going to do everything in their power to keep our kids safe, even if they're in harm's way," said Hughes.
"So what can you ask for more than that?"

Students say they feel safer on campus knowing their staff is armed, and despite the tragedy in Florida, they have no nerves coming to school. ​

Till one when a teacher shoots the kids...in that case you guys will ask kids to carry guns too.

 

[John Shaw]

You don't find mass shootings in a courthouse.

Actually, there have been numerous shootings in courthouses. Try using google before you make a total fool of yourself.

You just made a fool of yourself. Learn to read. I never said shootings. I said mass shootings.

There is no way around it. Democrats want gun control because they want only thugs and gang bangers armed. Why? Because thugs and gang bangers are most likely to be black or hispanic killing white people and that is the goal.

And yet, these mass shooters are usually white men.
Hmmm.

Predominantly liberals. Sure there's evidence this this shithead shooter wasn't a liberal but for the most part, those who come unhinged and commit mass shooting are liberals. Also those who have committed political assassinations in this country: For the most part, they have been leftists.

Woah, hold your horses. Where is your evidence for that claim?

Clearly they are (almost) all men. And almost all young men. That is, in my opinion, the single most important piece of the puzzle. Something has changed for young men since the 50's. What is it? How can we fix it? That's the most difficult question to answer, and yet the answer holds the most promising solutions.

 

[Timmy]

You don't find mass shootings in a courthouse.

Actually, there have been numerous shootings in courthouses. Try using google before you make a total fool of yourself.

You just made a fool of yourself. Learn to read. I never said shootings. I said mass shootings.

There is no way around it. Democrats want gun control because they want only thugs and gang bangers armed. Why? Because thugs and gang bangers are most likely to be black or hispanic killing white people and that is the goal.

And yet, these mass shooters are usually white men.
Hmmm.

Predominantly liberals. Sure there's evidence this this shithead shooter wasn't a liberal but for the most part, those who come unhinged and commit mass shooting are liberals. Also those who have committed political assassinations in this country: For the most part, they have been leftists.

Bullshit ! This kid had a “make America great again “. Hat .

By there very definition, liberals are not gun nuts .

 

[JGalt]

You don't find mass shootings in a courthouse.

Actually, there have been numerous shootings in courthouses. Try using google before you make a total fool of yourself.

You just made a fool of yourself. Learn to read. I never said shootings. I said mass shootings.

There is no way around it. Democrats want gun control because they want only thugs and gang bangers armed. Why? Because thugs and gang bangers are most likely to be black or hispanic killing white people and that is the goal.

And yet, these mass shooters are usually white men.
Hmmm.

Any idea on the numbers on blacks killing people, Timmy? Recently in Chicago an 11 year old girl making Smores wirh her friends caught one in the forehead during a gang shootout. Where is the outrage? Your precious media isn't telling you the real story

There is outrage . But righty freaks refuse to act on the gun problem in our country .

Need I remind you that the most liberal President this country ever had, didn't do shit about it? In fact, more inner-city minorities were shot and murdered during Obama's administration, than ever before.

Quit blaming people who want the right to protect themselves and start owning up to the fact that you people have caused a real problem in this country.