Still Haunted

[gipper]

The Japanese are a great people, but in the 30's and 40's they were duped by warmongers into committing atrocities across China and the Philippines....

...and then Pearl Harbor. They wrote a check their asses couldn't cash. Japan could be ruling over swaths of China and the pacific right now, but they made the mistake of fucking with the red, white and blue.

Sorry America didn't want anymore of it's sons to die in the war the Japanese started.

My father was wounded on Utah beach. As a sailor of an LCI, after Germany surrendered he was sure he would be shipped off to the Pacific for the final push on Japan.

What happened there is tragic, yet it likely did save in overall deaths.

I use to believe that too...that the a-bombs saved American lives. It is bullshit and used to justify the incineration of innocent Japanese women, children, and old men. Logically there can be no justification for the cold blooded murder of innocents.

You like most Americans are uninformed on this issue.

 

[TheOldSchool]

The Japanese are a great people, but in the 30's and 40's they were duped by warmongers into committing atrocities across China and the Philippines....

...and then Pearl Harbor. They wrote a check their asses couldn't cash. Japan could be ruling over swaths of China and the pacific right now, but they made the mistake of fucking with the red, white and blue.

Sorry America didn't want anymore of it's sons to die in the war the Japanese started.

My father was wounded on Utah beach. As a sailor of an LCI, after Germany surrendered he was sure he would be shipped off to the Pacific for the final push on Japan.

What happened there is tragic, yet it likely did save in overall deaths.

I use to believe that too...that the a-bombs saved American lives. It is bullshit and used to justify the incineration of innocent Japanese women, children, and old men. Logically there can be no justification for the cold blooded murder of innocents.

You like most Americans are uninformed on this issue.

What do you think the Japanese would have done if they'd managed to invade us? What did they do to the Chinese and Filipino's? They were prepared to fight to the last man. Not even a nuclear bomb deterred them from continuing to fight. So we had to drop a second one.

 

[gipper]

The Japanese are a great people, but in the 30's and 40's they were duped by warmongers into committing atrocities across China and the Philippines....

...and then Pearl Harbor. They wrote a check their asses couldn't cash. Japan could be ruling over swaths of China and the pacific right now, but they made the mistake of fucking with the red, white and blue.

Sorry America didn't want anymore of it's sons to die in the war the Japanese started.

My father was wounded on Utah beach. As a sailor of an LCI, after Germany surrendered he was sure he would be shipped off to the Pacific for the final push on Japan.

What happened there is tragic, yet it likely did save in overall deaths.

I use to believe that too...that the a-bombs saved American lives. It is bullshit and used to justify the incineration of innocent Japanese women, children, and old men. Logically there can be no justification for the cold blooded murder of innocents.

You like most Americans are uninformed on this issue.

What do you think the Japanese would have done if they'd managed to invade us? What did they do to the Chinese and Filipino's? They were prepared to fight to the last man. Not even a nuclear bomb deterred them from continuing to fight. So we had to drop a second one.

So now you justify Truman's heinous act, by claiming our enemies would do it to us.

And killing civilians who have no say in the actions of their government, is foolish.

 

[TheOldSchool]

The Japanese are a great people, but in the 30's and 40's they were duped by warmongers into committing atrocities across China and the Philippines....

...and then Pearl Harbor. They wrote a check their asses couldn't cash. Japan could be ruling over swaths of China and the pacific right now, but they made the mistake of fucking with the red, white and blue.

Sorry America didn't want anymore of it's sons to die in the war the Japanese started.

My father was wounded on Utah beach. As a sailor of an LCI, after Germany surrendered he was sure he would be shipped off to the Pacific for the final push on Japan.

What happened there is tragic, yet it likely did save in overall deaths.

I use to believe that too...that the a-bombs saved American lives. It is bullshit and used to justify the incineration of innocent Japanese women, children, and old men. Logically there can be no justification for the cold blooded murder of innocents.

You like most Americans are uninformed on this issue.

What do you think the Japanese would have done if they'd managed to invade us? What did they do to the Chinese and Filipino's? They were prepared to fight to the last man. Not even a nuclear bomb deterred them from continuing to fight. So we had to drop a second one.

So now you justify Truman's heinous act, by claiming our enemies would do it to us.

And killing civilians who have no say in the actions of their government, is foolish.

That didn't stop ANYBODY in WW2. Every single country involved targeted civilians. It's easy to be self-righteous from your comfy computer chair 70 years later when your side's casualty count isn't currently in the millions.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The Japanese are a great people, but in the 30's and 40's they were duped by warmongers into committing atrocities across China and the Philippines....

...and then Pearl Harbor. They wrote a check their asses couldn't cash. Japan could be ruling over swaths of China and the pacific right now, but they made the mistake of fucking with the red, white and blue.

Sorry America didn't want anymore of it's sons to die in the war the Japanese started.

My father was wounded on Utah beach. As a sailor of an LCI, after Germany surrendered he was sure he would be shipped off to the Pacific for the final push on Japan.

What happened there is tragic, yet it likely did save in overall deaths.

I use to believe that too...that the a-bombs saved American lives. It is bullshit and used to justify the incineration of innocent Japanese women, children, and old men. Logically there can be no justification for the cold blooded murder of innocents.

You like most Americans you are uninformed on this issue.

amen. so very true on all counts.

 

[peach174]

The Japanese are a great people, but in the 30's and 40's they were duped by warmongers into committing atrocities across China and the Philippines....

...and then Pearl Harbor. They wrote a check their asses couldn't cash. Japan could be ruling over swaths of China and the pacific right now, but they made the mistake of fucking with the red, white and blue.

Sorry America didn't want anymore of it's sons to die in the war the Japanese started.

My father was wounded on Utah beach. As a sailor of an LCI, after Germany surrendered he was sure he would be shipped off to the Pacific for the final push on Japan.

What happened there is tragic, yet it likely did save in overall deaths.

I use to believe that too...that the a-bombs saved American lives. It is bullshit and used to justify the incineration of innocent Japanese women, children, and old men. Logically there can be no justification for the cold blooded murder of innocents.

You like most Americans you are uninformed on this issue.

If they had believed the warning flyiers dropped a few days ahead of time and had left, but no they chose to believe their lying leader.
It is not cold blooded when you warn them and they choose not to leave.

 

[gipper]

The Japanese are a great people, but in the 30's and 40's they were duped by warmongers into committing atrocities across China and the Philippines....

...and then Pearl Harbor. They wrote a check their asses couldn't cash. Japan could be ruling over swaths of China and the pacific right now, but they made the mistake of fucking with the red, white and blue.

Sorry America didn't want anymore of it's sons to die in the war the Japanese started.

My father was wounded on Utah beach. As a sailor of an LCI, after Germany surrendered he was sure he would be shipped off to the Pacific for the final push on Japan.

What happened there is tragic, yet it likely did save in overall deaths.

I use to believe that too...that the a-bombs saved American lives. It is bullshit and used to justify the incineration of innocent Japanese women, children, and old men. Logically there can be no justification for the cold blooded murder of innocents.

You like most Americans you are uninformed on this issue.

If they had believed the warning flyiers dropped a few days ahead of time and had left, but no they chose to believe their lying leader.
It is not cold blooded when you warn them and they choose not to leave.

Yeah...we warned them and they failed to listen, so killing them is cool.

When will these silly justifications for history's greatest war crime, ever stop.

 

[gipper]

The Japanese are a great people, but in the 30's and 40's they were duped by warmongers into committing atrocities across China and the Philippines....

...and then Pearl Harbor. They wrote a check their asses couldn't cash. Japan could be ruling over swaths of China and the pacific right now, but they made the mistake of fucking with the red, white and blue.

Sorry America didn't want anymore of it's sons to die in the war the Japanese started.

My father was wounded on Utah beach. As a sailor of an LCI, after Germany surrendered he was sure he would be shipped off to the Pacific for the final push on Japan.

What happened there is tragic, yet it likely did save in overall deaths.

I use to believe that too...that the a-bombs saved American lives. It is bullshit and used to justify the incineration of innocent Japanese women, children, and old men. Logically there can be no justification for the cold blooded murder of innocents.

You like most Americans are uninformed on this issue.

What do you think the Japanese would have done if they'd managed to invade us? What did they do to the Chinese and Filipino's? They were prepared to fight to the last man. Not even a nuclear bomb deterred them from continuing to fight. So we had to drop a second one.

So now you justify Truman's heinous act, by claiming our enemies would do it to us.

And killing civilians who have no say in the actions of their government, is foolish.

That didn't stop ANYBODY in WW2. Every single country involved targeted civilians. It's easy to be self-righteous from your comfy computer chair 70 years later when your side's casualty count isn't currently in the millions.

Again....since everybody is doing it, we can too.

You can't justify mass murder of innocents, so you resort to strawman tactics.

 

[peach174]

The Japanese are a great people, but in the 30's and 40's they were duped by warmongers into committing atrocities across China and the Philippines....

...and then Pearl Harbor. They wrote a check their asses couldn't cash. Japan could be ruling over swaths of China and the pacific right now, but they made the mistake of fucking with the red, white and blue.

Sorry America didn't want anymore of it's sons to die in the war the Japanese started.

My father was wounded on Utah beach. As a sailor of an LCI, after Germany surrendered he was sure he would be shipped off to the Pacific for the final push on Japan.

What happened there is tragic, yet it likely did save in overall deaths.

I use to believe that too...that the a-bombs saved American lives. It is bullshit and used to justify the incineration of innocent Japanese women, children, and old men. Logically there can be no justification for the cold blooded murder of innocents.

You like most Americans you are uninformed on this issue.

If they had believed the warning flyiers dropped a few days ahead of time and had left, but no they chose to believe their lying leader.
It is not cold blooded when you warn them and they choose not to leave.

Yeah...we warned them and they failed to listen, so killing them is cool.

When will these silly justifications for history's greatest war crime, ever stop.

You are the one who said cool not me.
It is not cool at all.
The Japanese started the war with us and we ended it.
The Japanese who lived through those horrible bombs never blamed us they blamed their leader.
They got it and still do get it, but you younger Americans refuse to get it and try to blame America.
It's pathetic.

 

[TheOldSchool]

My father was wounded on Utah beach. As a sailor of an LCI, after Germany surrendered he was sure he would be shipped off to the Pacific for the final push on Japan.

What happened there is tragic, yet it likely did save in overall deaths.

I use to believe that too...that the a-bombs saved American lives. It is bullshit and used to justify the incineration of innocent Japanese women, children, and old men. Logically there can be no justification for the cold blooded murder of innocents.

You like most Americans are uninformed on this issue.

What do you think the Japanese would have done if they'd managed to invade us? What did they do to the Chinese and Filipino's? They were prepared to fight to the last man. Not even a nuclear bomb deterred them from continuing to fight. So we had to drop a second one.

So now you justify Truman's heinous act, by claiming our enemies would do it to us.

And killing civilians who have no say in the actions of their government, is foolish.

That didn't stop ANYBODY in WW2. Every single country involved targeted civilians. It's easy to be self-righteous from your comfy computer chair 70 years later when your side's casualty count isn't currently in the millions.

Again....since everybody is doing it, we can too.

You can't justify mass murder of innocents, so you resort to strawman tactics.

You are not in a war that's cost millions of lives. You have no idea what conditions were like then. Like I said, it's easy to be self-righteous from your comfy computer chair 70 years later.

 

[gipper]

The Japanese are a great people, but in the 30's and 40's they were duped by warmongers into committing atrocities across China and the Philippines....

...and then Pearl Harbor. They wrote a check their asses couldn't cash. Japan could be ruling over swaths of China and the pacific right now, but they made the mistake of fucking with the red, white and blue.

Sorry America didn't want anymore of it's sons to die in the war the Japanese started.

My father was wounded on Utah beach. As a sailor of an LCI, after Germany surrendered he was sure he would be shipped off to the Pacific for the final push on Japan.

What happened there is tragic, yet it likely did save in overall deaths.

I use to believe that too...that the a-bombs saved American lives. It is bullshit and used to justify the incineration of innocent Japanese women, children, and old men. Logically there can be no justification for the cold blooded murder of innocents.

You like most Americans you are uninformed on this issue.

If they had believed the warning flyiers dropped a few days ahead of time and had left, but no they chose to believe their lying leader.
It is not cold blooded when you warn them and they choose not to leave.

Yeah...we warned them and they failed to listen, so killing them is cool.

When will these silly justifications for history's greatest war crime, ever stop.

You are the one who said cool not me.
It is not cool at all.
The Japanese started the war with us and we ended it.
The Japanese who lived through those horrible bombs never blamed us they blamed their leader.
They got it and still do get it, but you younger Americans refuse to get it and try to blame America.
It's pathetic.

You know not what you speak. I am not a younger American. I believed the statist tripe you do, but then I educated myself. You should try it.

And to think the Japanese do not blame Truman, is foolish.

 

[gipper]

I use to believe that too...that the a-bombs saved American lives. It is bullshit and used to justify the incineration of innocent Japanese women, children, and old men. Logically there can be no justification for the cold blooded murder of innocents.

You like most Americans are uninformed on this issue.

What do you think the Japanese would have done if they'd managed to invade us? What did they do to the Chinese and Filipino's? They were prepared to fight to the last man. Not even a nuclear bomb deterred them from continuing to fight. So we had to drop a second one.

So now you justify Truman's heinous act, by claiming our enemies would do it to us.

And killing civilians who have no say in the actions of their government, is foolish.

That didn't stop ANYBODY in WW2. Every single country involved targeted civilians. It's easy to be self-righteous from your comfy computer chair 70 years later when your side's casualty count isn't currently in the millions.

Again....since everybody is doing it, we can too.

You can't justify mass murder of innocents, so you resort to strawman tactics.

You are not in a war that's cost millions of lives. You have no idea what conditions were like then. Like I said, it's easy to be self-righteous from your comfy computer chair 70 years later.

Bullshit.

By your "logic"...since one is not alive at the time, one can't analyze and make conclusions on the actions taken by our leaders. Could you get more silly?

 

[TheOldSchool]

My father was wounded on Utah beach. As a sailor of an LCI, after Germany surrendered he was sure he would be shipped off to the Pacific for the final push on Japan.

What happened there is tragic, yet it likely did save in overall deaths.

I use to believe that too...that the a-bombs saved American lives. It is bullshit and used to justify the incineration of innocent Japanese women, children, and old men. Logically there can be no justification for the cold blooded murder of innocents.

You like most Americans you are uninformed on this issue.

If they had believed the warning flyiers dropped a few days ahead of time and had left, but no they chose to believe their lying leader.
It is not cold blooded when you warn them and they choose not to leave.

Yeah...we warned them and they failed to listen, so killing them is cool.

When will these silly justifications for history's greatest war crime, ever stop.

You are the one who said cool not me.
It is not cool at all.
The Japanese started the war with us and we ended it.
The Japanese who lived through those horrible bombs never blamed us they blamed their leader.
They got it and still do get it, but you younger Americans refuse to get it and try to blame America.
It's pathetic.

You know not what you speak. I am not a younger American. I believed the statist tripe you do, but then I educated myself. You should try it.

And to think the Japanese do not blame Truman, is foolish.

I'm sure they do. Much like the Chinese blame the Japanese for the brutal tortures inflicted upon them. I bet they had no problem with the bomb.

 

[peach174]

My father was wounded on Utah beach. As a sailor of an LCI, after Germany surrendered he was sure he would be shipped off to the Pacific for the final push on Japan.

What happened there is tragic, yet it likely did save in overall deaths.

I use to believe that too...that the a-bombs saved American lives. It is bullshit and used to justify the incineration of innocent Japanese women, children, and old men. Logically there can be no justification for the cold blooded murder of innocents.

You like most Americans you are uninformed on this issue.

If they had believed the warning flyiers dropped a few days ahead of time and had left, but no they chose to believe their lying leader.
It is not cold blooded when you warn them and they choose not to leave.

Yeah...we warned them and they failed to listen, so killing them is cool.

When will these silly justifications for history's greatest war crime, ever stop.

You are the one who said cool not me.
It is not cool at all.
The Japanese started the war with us and we ended it.
The Japanese who lived through those horrible bombs never blamed us they blamed their leader.
They got it and still do get it, but you younger Americans refuse to get it and try to blame America.
It's pathetic.

You know not what you speak. I am not a younger American. I believed the statist tripe you do, but then I educated myself. You should try it.

And to think the Japanese do not blame Truman, is foolish.

And believing Internet lies is not education.

I watched interviews of them when they were flown here to America to be treated for their burns. They were very well educated, spoke English and they knew that their Emperor started the war with us.

How about you educating yourself and read some books written and interviewed by the survivors?

 

[TheOldSchool]

What do you think the Japanese would have done if they'd managed to invade us? What did they do to the Chinese and Filipino's? They were prepared to fight to the last man. Not even a nuclear bomb deterred them from continuing to fight. So we had to drop a second one.

So now you justify Truman's heinous act, by claiming our enemies would do it to us.

And killing civilians who have no say in the actions of their government, is foolish.

That didn't stop ANYBODY in WW2. Every single country involved targeted civilians. It's easy to be self-righteous from your comfy computer chair 70 years later when your side's casualty count isn't currently in the millions.

Again....since everybody is doing it, we can too.

You can't justify mass murder of innocents, so you resort to strawman tactics.

You are not in a war that's cost millions of lives. You have no idea what conditions were like then. Like I said, it's easy to be self-righteous from your comfy computer chair 70 years later.

Bullshit.

By your "logic"...since one is not alive at the time, one can't analyze and make conclusions on the actions taken by our leaders. Could you get more silly?

Put yourselves in their shoes. You have a secret weapon that can completely end the war against brutal people that have killed millions. They suicide bomb your ships, they torture captives, they kill innocents and soldiers alike, and THEY STARTED IT. You either risk millions of American casualties invading the mainland of Japan, all the while causing mass civilian casualties and bombing their cities because that was the norm for WW2; or you drop a bomb showing your superiority to end the war in one swift move. Oh wait, they are absolutely hell bent on killing as many Americans as they can before they're defeated so they still don't surrender after one bomb. So you drop 2. War over, we learn how bad nukes are, and Japan goes on to become one of the wealthiest and most important countries in the world.

 

[williepete]

American POWs used for live experiments in Japan, according to new museum
Eight crew of a US bomber shot down in May 1945 used in medical experiments in a case that Japan has tried to forget
American POWs used for live experiments in Japan according to new museum - Telegraph

I lived in Japan for two years where I developed an admiration of modern Japanese society and a genuine fondness for the Japanese people that will last to the end of my days. The militaristic Japan of the 20's, 30's and 40's was a far cry from the civilized people of today's Japan.

Still haunted? Good. The lesson should stick for several more generations to the benefit of Japan, her neighbors and her allies.

 

[gipper]

I use to believe that too...that the a-bombs saved American lives. It is bullshit and used to justify the incineration of innocent Japanese women, children, and old men. Logically there can be no justification for the cold blooded murder of innocents.

You like most Americans you are uninformed on this issue.

If they had believed the warning flyiers dropped a few days ahead of time and had left, but no they chose to believe their lying leader.
It is not cold blooded when you warn them and they choose not to leave.

Yeah...we warned them and they failed to listen, so killing them is cool.

When will these silly justifications for history's greatest war crime, ever stop.

You are the one who said cool not me.
It is not cool at all.
The Japanese started the war with us and we ended it.
The Japanese who lived through those horrible bombs never blamed us they blamed their leader.
They got it and still do get it, but you younger Americans refuse to get it and try to blame America.
It's pathetic.

You know not what you speak. I am not a younger American. I believed the statist tripe you do, but then I educated myself. You should try it.

And to think the Japanese do not blame Truman, is foolish.

And believing Internet lies is not education.

I watched interviews of them when they were flown here to America to be treated for their burns. They were very well educated, spoke English and they knew that their Emperor started the war with us.

And you think that justifies massive murder...

 

[gipper]

So now you justify Truman's heinous act, by claiming our enemies would do it to us.

And killing civilians who have no say in the actions of their government, is foolish.

That didn't stop ANYBODY in WW2. Every single country involved targeted civilians. It's easy to be self-righteous from your comfy computer chair 70 years later when your side's casualty count isn't currently in the millions.

Again....since everybody is doing it, we can too.

You can't justify mass murder of innocents, so you resort to strawman tactics.

You are not in a war that's cost millions of lives. You have no idea what conditions were like then. Like I said, it's easy to be self-righteous from your comfy computer chair 70 years later.

Bullshit.

By your "logic"...since one is not alive at the time, one can't analyze and make conclusions on the actions taken by our leaders. Could you get more silly?

Put yourselves in their shoes. You have a secret weapon that can completely end the war against brutal people that have killed millions. They suicide bomb your ships, they torture captives, they kill innocents and soldiers alike, and THEY STARTED IT. You either risk millions of American casualties invading the mainland of Japan, all the while causing mass civilian casualties and bombing their cities because that was the norm for WW2; or you drop a bomb showing your superiority to end the war in one swift move. Oh wait, they are absolutely hell bent on killing as many Americans as they can before they're defeated so they still don't surrender after one bomb. So you drop 2. War over, we learn how bad nukes are, and Japan goes on to become one of the wealthiest and most important countries in the world.

You are uninformed.

The war was over long before the a-bombs dropped.

Truman dropped them because he was a racist and he wanted to impress the mass murderer Stalin.

 

[TheOldSchool]

That didn't stop ANYBODY in WW2. Every single country involved targeted civilians. It's easy to be self-righteous from your comfy computer chair 70 years later when your side's casualty count isn't currently in the millions.

Again....since everybody is doing it, we can too.

You can't justify mass murder of innocents, so you resort to strawman tactics.

You are not in a war that's cost millions of lives. You have no idea what conditions were like then. Like I said, it's easy to be self-righteous from your comfy computer chair 70 years later.

Bullshit.

By your "logic"...since one is not alive at the time, one can't analyze and make conclusions on the actions taken by our leaders. Could you get more silly?

Put yourselves in their shoes. You have a secret weapon that can completely end the war against brutal people that have killed millions. They suicide bomb your ships, they torture captives, they kill innocents and soldiers alike, and THEY STARTED IT. You either risk millions of American casualties invading the mainland of Japan, all the while causing mass civilian casualties and bombing their cities because that was the norm for WW2; or you drop a bomb showing your superiority to end the war in one swift move. Oh wait, they are absolutely hell bent on killing as many Americans as they can before they're defeated so they still don't surrender after one bomb. So you drop 2. War over, we learn how bad nukes are, and Japan goes on to become one of the wealthiest and most important countries in the world.

You are uninformed.

The war was over long before the a-bombs dropped.

Truman dropped them because he was a racist and he wanted to impress the mass murderer Stalin.

The war was long over?

Interesting you bring up Stalin. So how many Japanese, American, and Russian casualties do you think that Truman prevented by scaring Stalin? In the tens of millions? Or just millions?

 

[peach174]

If they had believed the warning flyiers dropped a few days ahead of time and had left, but no they chose to believe their lying leader.
It is not cold blooded when you warn them and they choose not to leave.

Yeah...we warned them and they failed to listen, so killing them is cool.

When will these silly justifications for history's greatest war crime, ever stop.

You are the one who said cool not me.
It is not cool at all.
The Japanese started the war with us and we ended it.
The Japanese who lived through those horrible bombs never blamed us they blamed their leader.
They got it and still do get it, but you younger Americans refuse to get it and try to blame America.
It's pathetic.

You know not what you speak. I am not a younger American. I believed the statist tripe you do, but then I educated myself. You should try it.

And to think the Japanese do not blame Truman, is foolish.

And believing Internet lies is not education.

I watched interviews of them when they were flown here to America to be treated for their burns. They were very well educated, spoke English and they knew that their Emperor started the war with us.

And you think that justifies massive murder...

There is no justification in Wars. War is hell and you fight to win rather than losing it and becoming part of country who wins if you lose.
I personally would not want have wanted to be part of Japan or Nazi Germany if either of them had won.
Thinking like you do is what makes Americans lose our Wars. It must be fought fairly and must be justified is bullshit.
From the actual thoughts of one of the many survivors.
Tomiko Morimoto believes that only a total unequivocal victory by the Allies would have convinced the Japanese population that their war effort was hopeless, that they must lay down their arms and try to move on.
Many survivors if not all believes this.
This comes from a book and not the internet so there is no link.
If you actually listen to our WWII vets they all say they fought like a savage and then became human again after the battle. This type of thinking is what wins our Wars.
Not the Political Correct bullshit of today of, we must fight fairly and it must be justified. If this type of thinking is not changed, it's going to get us all killed.
PC is exactly why we had the Boston bombing.