First of all I want to genuinely thank you for corresponding with me in this forum. I never dreamed that I could discuss these matters with a muslim and not be martyred, though that would be a great honor for me. You did not address the fact of God chosing jewish people for prophets, or the messiah being jewish. Your map is quite impressive, but one thing that strikes me beyond how much influance islam has gained is this: out of that whole map, if you highlight only Israel, It is very, very tiny compared to the middle east and Islam domination, yet it is there, and to me that is prophetic fulfilment.
It's merely a temporary result of Western neo-colonialism. Like all oppressive societies, Israel will not last and Palestine will return to the fold of Islam, Insha'Allah.
In Daniel, another prophet, prophesied about Islam="The fourth beast shall be a fourth kingdom on earth, differant than all the others; It shall devour the whole earth, beat it down, and crush it. The ten horns shall be ten kings rising out of that kingdom;another shall rise up after after them,Differant from those before him, who shall lay low three kings.(Osama-Clinton couldn't get him, Bush 2 couldn't get him, Obama bows to Islam) He shall speak against the most High and oppress the holy ones of the most high,thinking to change the feast days and the law.(you also seem to fulfill that by saying our bible is falsified, and Osama thinks what you think and then some) They shall be handed over to him for a year,two years and a half year(three and a half is half of the jewish perfect number,7, an indefinate,evil period) But when the court is convened, and his power is taken away by final and absolute distruction, Then the kingship and dominion and majesty of all the kingdoms under the heavans shall be given to the holy people of the Most High".
Your analysis is flawed, I think. The "fourth beast" was the empire of Alexander the Great, the "ten horns" being Alexander, Seleucus I, Antiochus I, Antiochus II, Seleucus II, Seleucus III, Antiochus III, Seleucus IV, Heliodorus, and the infant Antiochus IV. Daniel 7:25 refers to
Antiochus IV, who persecuted Jews during his reign. The passage does not apply to Islam because Usama bin Laden is not by any stretch of the imagination a "leader" of the religion - there has been no true leader of Muslims since Muhammad (SAWS).
Also Daniel is another example of a Jew being upheld by God.I know know that we are chasing the wind, we will never agree on this. But I want to say that loyalty to goodness and peace,will never be in vain. Honestly, May God bless you and guide you and keep you.P.S. I have a fantasy, I wish someday when I have the means, I could come to the Middle East. I would want a faithful muslim to do something with me. Lets go out to a desolate place. After we both fast and pray, Let me build an altar to God Most High and celebrate His sons ressurection by offering bread and wine on it. The muslim would do whatever they want to invoke God, And lets see what happens. I would pray that it would be God's will to show us the truth beyond all doubt.Thats the only way to peace, If not me than someone else, and get this mess behind us.If that is not possible or not his will then I pray that I die before Islam finishes"beating the whole world down and crushing it" Gods will be done.
I get the feeling that our conceptions of God differ greatly from each other. Regardless, it is written in the Qur'an that Islam will triumph over disbelief, and so it shall be.
I still love you.1 Corinthians 13-"Love never fails.Prophecies will cease, tounges will be silent, knowledge will pass away.Our knowledge is imperfect and our phrophesying is imperfect.When the perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away........v13 There are in the end three things that last: faith, hope, and love, and the greatest of these is love." Tell me, on your honor as a child of God, Do you love me? Moreover, do you hate me?
I love Islam, and Islam makes it clear how you are to be dealt with:
Allah forbids you not respecting those who fight you not for religion, nor drive you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly. Surely Allah loves the doers of justice. - 60:8
My hatred is reserved for those who persecute Muslims, spread corruption and sin, and seek to suppress Islam.
In the things that I have stated, would you feel bad if a muslim somehow found out who I am and killed me?
Unless you have committed a capital offense, there is no reason that you should be killed, and doing so would be an affront to justice and decency. Murderers are put to death.
You are right, I didn't know which Zechariah, but nevertheless, a jewish priest.Also I didn't find where he was Marys guardian so much as he was John the Baptist father(Luke 1).
So her Lord accepted her with a goodly acceptance and made her grow up a goodly growing, and gave her into the charge of Zacharias. Whenever Zacharias entered the sanctuary to see her, he found food with her. He said, "O Mary, whence comes this to thee?" She said, "It is from Allah." Surely Allah gives to whom He pleases without measure. - 3:37
The fact remains that Jesus was a jewish rabbi that the koran says performed miracles.David was a jewish king. I still do not understand how Islam could view and respect them as prophets and reject Israel, they were both. How could God bestow such an honor on someone he didn't have friendship with?
Allah (SWT) sent prophets and messengers to all nations and corners of the world; Allah (SWT) does not recognize any single race as superior. The only superior group is the Ummat al-Islam, which consists of believers of all racial and cultural backgrounds.
And for every nation there is a messenger. So when their messenger comes, the matter is decided between them with justice, and they are not wronged. - 10:47
Say: O you who are Jews, if you think that you are the favourites of Allah to the exclusion of other people, then invoke death, if you are truthful. But they will never invoke it because of what their hands have sent before. And Allah is Knower of the wrongdoers. - 62:6-7
You are the best nation raised up for men: you enjoin good and forbid evil and you believe in Allah. And if the People of the Book had believed, it would have been better for them. Some of them are believers but most of them are transgressors. - 3:110
Also no matter what the proportion of "radical" jihadist to legitimate jihadist why doesn't Islam search for them and stop them?
Those attacking Islam most be defeated before we can turn our undivided attention to eradicating sin within the religion.
In your opinion was the 9-11 terrorist legitimate? What about the Taliban and /or Ammanijad in Iran?
Not in mine, no. 9/11 attacked an illegitimate target and the Taliban and Ahmadinejad are all heretics. The Taliban are religious innovators who invent their own contrived laws, and Ahmadinejad is a Twelver Shi'ite who erroneously believes that certain imams are infallible like God and His prophets.
Kalam, I also just observed that in Turkey,(Constantanople) The Orthodox Christian church is centered. It is the location one of the very first christian churches. Patriarch Bartholomew states that even though they predated Islam, and even have a document from Mohammed stating they would not be persecuted(it has his vey own handprint), they are constantly being officialy curtailed and persecuted and threatened, dwindeling from tens of thousands to just a few thousand. Is that legitimate in light of an agreement with Mohammed himself? Are things that are against the leading clerics kinda swept under the rug and declared mistakes even bearing the handprint of Muhhamed? Also please comment on the above quote .
I'd have to know more about the specifics of their situation before I could determine whether they're actually being persecuted...
