Soy Bean Farmers.....What is NEXT?
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UM, you realize how much soy milk we produce for US?
there is still a local market for soy and it's used in many things
this another dooms day china is taking over? what is your angle?
Who gives a shit if china won't buy our soy, why do we need to sell to them is
the logical question.......**** them and the horse they rode in on
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Billions need food in this world. Where one market ends others begin.
China is not our friend and we should NOT be dependent on them FOR ANYTHING.
Time to go back to providing our own things.
China is not our friend and we should NOT be dependent on them FOR ANYTHING.
Time to go back to providing our own things.
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Just sell them cheaper in America this year and grow hemp next year
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Hiw ya doing Mao
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There are food shortages all across our globe. China is feeding its livestock soybeans rather than people.
I question any soy farmer who states that they can sell ONLY to China. It is dishonest in the extreme.
Gaza Strip stands as the most severe crisis, where 100% of the population faces acute food insecurity. Famine was officially confirmed in Gaza Governorate in August 2025, with over 500,000 people experiencing catastrophic hunger conditions characterized by starvation, destitution, and death. The crisis is projected to expand to Deir al-Balah and Khan Younis governorates, with an estimated 132,000 children under five at risk of death through June 2026.civil-protection-humanitarian-aid.europa+3
Sudan represents the world's largest active famine, affecting approximately 24.6 million people—roughly half the country's population—with 637,000 facing catastrophic hunger levels, the highest anywhere globally. Famine was first confirmed in August 2024 in Zamzam IDP camp, with over one-third of children suffering acute malnutrition above the 20% threshold that defines famine conditions. The Sudan Doctors Union estimates that 522,000 children have already died due to malnutrition since the conflict began.wfp+1
South Sudan, Yemen, and Mali complete the list of countries experiencing catastrophic conditions. South Sudan has 56% of its population facing high acute food insecurity, with areas sliding toward famine due to escalating conflict. Yemen, the world's third-largest food crisis, has nearly half its population facing hunger and nearly half of children under five suffering chronic malnutrition. Mali has 1.5 million people facing crisis-level food insecurity, with thousands at risk of famine-like conditions in northern and central regions.actionagainsthunger+2
Other severely affected countries include Nigeria (31.8 million people), Democratic Republic of the Congo (25.6 million), Bangladesh (23.6 million), Ethiopia (22.0 million), Afghanistan (15.8 million), Myanmar (14.4 million), and Pakistan (11.8 million). Conflict remains the primary driver of acute food insecurity, affecting around 140 million people in 20 countries, while economic shocks impact 59.4 million people across 15 countries, and weather extremes push over 96 million people into food crises across 18 countries.fao+1
From a pure protein capacity perspective, the numbers are striking. Global soybean production contains approximately 170.3 billion kilograms of protein—theoretically sufficient to provide the annual protein requirements for 9.33 billion people, exceeding the current world population. The U.S. soybean crop alone could deliver approximately 6 grams of protein per day for the entire anticipated 2050 population.pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih
Soybean meal dominates the animal feed market because it provides 47-49% protein content and a complete amino acid profile ideal for poultry, swine, and cattle production. Over 97% of soybean meal in the U.S. is used for poultry and livestock feed, with poultry consuming 66.2% and swine 17.5%.andersonintl+2
Addressing acute food insecurity would require only 3.2% of global soybean production. The 295.3 million people facing acute hunger need approximately 5.39 billion kilograms of protein annually. Current global soybean production could theoretically provide this more than 30 times over.joint-research-centre.europa+1
Redirecting just 10% of livestock feed soybeans to human consumption would provide 13.11 billion kilograms of protein, enough to feed 719 million people—representing 243% coverage of the acute hunger population. This means a relatively modest reallocation could more than double the coverage needed for crisis-affected populations.
U.S. soybean exports alone (approximately 1.9 billion bushels in 2024) contain enough protein to feed over 1.1 billion people annually, nearly four times the number experiencing acute food insecurity globally.fas.usda+1
However, these calculations assume several unrealistic conditions: that protein is the only limiting nutrient (it is not—calories, micronutrients, and fats are equally essential), that distribution systems could reach affected populations (they often cannot due to conflict and infrastructure damage), and that immediate redirection is economically and politically feasible (it is not).
USAID's Food for Peace program purchases approximately $2 billion worth (about 1 million metric tons) of U.S.-grown crops annually, including significant quantities of soybeans. Organizations like Edesia use nearly 170,000 bushels of soybeans annually to produce protein-rich food packets that deliver nourishment to millions of malnourished children globally.unitedsoybean+2
Trade and economic factors complicate redirection. The 2025 U.S.-China trade tensions have effectively halted U.S. soybean exports to China, with zero bookings for the 2025/26 marketing year as of September 2025—a dramatic departure from historical patterns where China typically committed to millions of tons by this point. Brazil has absorbed this demand, exporting a record 2.474 billion bushels to China from January through August 2025, representing 76% of Brazil's total soybean exports. This demonstrates how quickly trade flows shift based on geopolitical factors rather than humanitarian need.vizionapi+2
Nutritional complexity cannot be ignored. While soybeans provide excellent protein (40% by weight), complete amino acid profiles, and beneficial compounds like isoflavones and phytosterols, addressing malnutrition requires comprehensive nutrition including adequate calories (typically 2,000 per day for adults in emergency situations), micronutrients, vitamins, and dietary diversity. Protein supplementation alone cannot resolve hunger crises driven by overall food scarcity.sustainablenutritioninitiative+3
Structural economic factors present perhaps the most intractable challenge. The global food system is optimized for livestock production and profitable export markets, not humanitarian distribution. Converting commodity soybeans to food-grade products requires specific cultivars with particular properties for tofu, tempeh, and soymilk production. The soybean crushing industry generates two-thirds of its revenue from meal (for animal feed) and only one-third from oil (for human consumption), creating powerful economic incentives that maintain current allocation patterns.tabledebates
However, the question "how far will selling excess soybeans alleviate the problem?" misframes the issue. The bottleneck is not production capacity but rather:
The sobering reality is that global agriculture produces more than enough food, including protein-rich soybeans, to feed the world's hungry populations multiple times over. The challenge lies not in production but in the political, economic, and logistical systems that determine who has access to that food. Until conflicts end, humanitarian access improves, and economic incentives align with nutritional need rather than profit maximization, even abundant soybean surpluses will provide limited relief to the world's most vulnerable populations.
I question any soy farmer who states that they can sell ONLY to China. It is dishonest in the extreme.
Global Soybean Supply and World Hunger: An Analysis of Capacity and Limitations
The intersection of global soybean production and world hunger reveals both significant potential and fundamental limitations in addressing food insecurity. While soybeans represent one of the world's most abundant protein sources, the reality of redirecting this supply to alleviate hunger involves complex agricultural, economic, and logistical considerations.Critical Hunger Hotspots
The world faces severe food insecurity concentrated in specific conflict-affected regions. As of 2024, approximately 295.3 million people across 53 countries experienced acute food insecurity, with conditions worsening rather than improving. The most critical shortages exist in:joint-research-centre.europa+1Gaza Strip stands as the most severe crisis, where 100% of the population faces acute food insecurity. Famine was officially confirmed in Gaza Governorate in August 2025, with over 500,000 people experiencing catastrophic hunger conditions characterized by starvation, destitution, and death. The crisis is projected to expand to Deir al-Balah and Khan Younis governorates, with an estimated 132,000 children under five at risk of death through June 2026.civil-protection-humanitarian-aid.europa+3
Sudan represents the world's largest active famine, affecting approximately 24.6 million people—roughly half the country's population—with 637,000 facing catastrophic hunger levels, the highest anywhere globally. Famine was first confirmed in August 2024 in Zamzam IDP camp, with over one-third of children suffering acute malnutrition above the 20% threshold that defines famine conditions. The Sudan Doctors Union estimates that 522,000 children have already died due to malnutrition since the conflict began.wfp+1
South Sudan, Yemen, and Mali complete the list of countries experiencing catastrophic conditions. South Sudan has 56% of its population facing high acute food insecurity, with areas sliding toward famine due to escalating conflict. Yemen, the world's third-largest food crisis, has nearly half its population facing hunger and nearly half of children under five suffering chronic malnutrition. Mali has 1.5 million people facing crisis-level food insecurity, with thousands at risk of famine-like conditions in northern and central regions.actionagainsthunger+2
Other severely affected countries include Nigeria (31.8 million people), Democratic Republic of the Congo (25.6 million), Bangladesh (23.6 million), Ethiopia (22.0 million), Afghanistan (15.8 million), Myanmar (14.4 million), and Pakistan (11.8 million). Conflict remains the primary driver of acute food insecurity, affecting around 140 million people in 20 countries, while economic shocks impact 59.4 million people across 15 countries, and weather extremes push over 96 million people into food crises across 18 countries.fao+1
Global Soybean Production Capacity
Global soybean production has reached record levels, projected at 425.8 million metric tons for the 2025/26 season—an increase of more than one million metric tons from the previous year. This production has grown by over 100 million metric tons in the past decade, surpassing any other oilseed crop worldwide. Brazil leads production at 175 million metric tons (40% of global supply), followed by the United States at 117 million metric tons (28%), and Argentina at 48.5 million metric tons.ecofinagency+1From a pure protein capacity perspective, the numbers are striking. Global soybean production contains approximately 170.3 billion kilograms of protein—theoretically sufficient to provide the annual protein requirements for 9.33 billion people, exceeding the current world population. The U.S. soybean crop alone could deliver approximately 6 grams of protein per day for the entire anticipated 2050 population.pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih
The Reality of Current Soybean Use
The critical limitation lies not in production volume but in allocation. Approximately 77-80% of global soybeans are used for livestock feed, with only 7% used directly for human food consumption. China absorbs 112 million metric tons (60% of global imports), primarily for animal feed to support its livestock industry. This allocation pattern means that while soybeans are technically an abundant resource, they are largely embedded in meat production chains rather than directly feeding hungry populations.farmdocdaily.illinois+3Soybean meal dominates the animal feed market because it provides 47-49% protein content and a complete amino acid profile ideal for poultry, swine, and cattle production. Over 97% of soybean meal in the U.S. is used for poultry and livestock feed, with poultry consuming 66.2% and swine 17.5%.andersonintl+2
How Far Could Excess Soybeans Alleviate World Hunger?
The mathematical analysis reveals both the enormous potential and the practical constraints:Addressing acute food insecurity would require only 3.2% of global soybean production. The 295.3 million people facing acute hunger need approximately 5.39 billion kilograms of protein annually. Current global soybean production could theoretically provide this more than 30 times over.joint-research-centre.europa+1
Redirecting just 10% of livestock feed soybeans to human consumption would provide 13.11 billion kilograms of protein, enough to feed 719 million people—representing 243% coverage of the acute hunger population. This means a relatively modest reallocation could more than double the coverage needed for crisis-affected populations.
U.S. soybean exports alone (approximately 1.9 billion bushels in 2024) contain enough protein to feed over 1.1 billion people annually, nearly four times the number experiencing acute food insecurity globally.fas.usda+1
However, these calculations assume several unrealistic conditions: that protein is the only limiting nutrient (it is not—calories, micronutrients, and fats are equally essential), that distribution systems could reach affected populations (they often cannot due to conflict and infrastructure damage), and that immediate redirection is economically and politically feasible (it is not).
Soybean Use in Humanitarian Programs
Soybeans already play a vital role in humanitarian nutrition programs. The World Food Programme and USAID utilize soy-fortified products extensively, including corn-soy blend plus (CSB+), ready-to-use therapeutic foods (RUTF) with soy protein isolate, and fortified soy flour. Studies demonstrate that soy-based RUTF can effectively treat severe acute malnutrition in children, with recovery rates of 85-88% comparable to more expensive milk-based alternatives.wfpusa+3USAID's Food for Peace program purchases approximately $2 billion worth (about 1 million metric tons) of U.S.-grown crops annually, including significant quantities of soybeans. Organizations like Edesia use nearly 170,000 bushels of soybeans annually to produce protein-rich food packets that deliver nourishment to millions of malnourished children globally.unitedsoybean+2
Critical Barriers and Limitations
Logistical challenges represent the most significant impediment. Humanitarian logistics operations face disjointed coordination between donors and governments, infrastructure deficiencies with poor or damaged roads and warehouses, financial constraints limiting rapid delivery, and inadequate staffing and training. In conflict zones like Gaza, only two border crossings remain operational, roads are blocked or destroyed, and over 50% of warehouse capacity is destroyed.pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih+1Trade and economic factors complicate redirection. The 2025 U.S.-China trade tensions have effectively halted U.S. soybean exports to China, with zero bookings for the 2025/26 marketing year as of September 2025—a dramatic departure from historical patterns where China typically committed to millions of tons by this point. Brazil has absorbed this demand, exporting a record 2.474 billion bushels to China from January through August 2025, representing 76% of Brazil's total soybean exports. This demonstrates how quickly trade flows shift based on geopolitical factors rather than humanitarian need.vizionapi+2
Nutritional complexity cannot be ignored. While soybeans provide excellent protein (40% by weight), complete amino acid profiles, and beneficial compounds like isoflavones and phytosterols, addressing malnutrition requires comprehensive nutrition including adequate calories (typically 2,000 per day for adults in emergency situations), micronutrients, vitamins, and dietary diversity. Protein supplementation alone cannot resolve hunger crises driven by overall food scarcity.sustainablenutritioninitiative+3
Structural economic factors present perhaps the most intractable challenge. The global food system is optimized for livestock production and profitable export markets, not humanitarian distribution. Converting commodity soybeans to food-grade products requires specific cultivars with particular properties for tofu, tempeh, and soymilk production. The soybean crushing industry generates two-thirds of its revenue from meal (for animal feed) and only one-third from oil (for human consumption), creating powerful economic incentives that maintain current allocation patterns.tabledebates
Conclusion: Potential Versus Reality
From a purely technical standpoint, redirecting even a small fraction of current soybean production could theoretically address the protein needs of all populations facing acute food insecurity. The numbers are unambiguous: just 3.2% of global soybean protein production would cover the protein requirements of the 295 million people experiencing acute hunger. The U.S. alone produces enough soybeans to provide protein for 2.6 billion people annually.However, the question "how far will selling excess soybeans alleviate the problem?" misframes the issue. The bottleneck is not production capacity but rather:
- Distribution infrastructure in conflict zones where roads are destroyed, borders closed, and humanitarian access blocked by warring parties
- Economic systems where 77% of soybeans are locked into profitable livestock feed chains that support global meat consumption
- Political will to prioritize humanitarian redirection over commercial markets and trade relationships
- Comprehensive nutrition needs that extend beyond protein to include calories, micronutrients, and dietary diversity
The sobering reality is that global agriculture produces more than enough food, including protein-rich soybeans, to feed the world's hungry populations multiple times over. The challenge lies not in production but in the political, economic, and logistical systems that determine who has access to that food. Until conflicts end, humanitarian access improves, and economic incentives align with nutritional need rather than profit maximization, even abundant soybean surpluses will provide limited relief to the world's most vulnerable populations.
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still 100x better than an option you had or will have,,
Not at all what I said, but I can see how you'd want that if they are "Trumpers"
how many countries in the world are there? china is not the only one to sell to, relax
if nobody wants soy......farmers plant want they DO want to buy
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More farmer welfare.
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If their farm survives, that is.
Zincwarrior
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Elections matter. They voted for him.
Trump fucked farmers, and now like the conman he is, he is moving to the shell game, where each first shell contains a government check to cover this years losses.
Sorry about your kids taking it over someday. Have they considered the building trades?
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If you go into a trade war, but you don't understand how such a trade war is going to work, but the people you've gone to war with do, you're going to look very stupid. Or Trumpish.
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