South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster will sign a bill that allows medical providers to deny care based on religious beliefs

[Polishprince]

So a doctor that is a Jehovah Witness could deny you a blood transfusion?

I don't know enough about Jehovah's Witnesses on this issue- whether they oppose giving non-JW's transfusions or whether this is just their belief for themselves.

 

[Mac-7]

A BILL​

TO AMEND THE CODE OF LAWS OF SOUTH CAROLINA, 1976, TO ENACT THE "MEDICAL ETHICS AND DIVERSITY ACT"; BY ADDING CHAPTER 139 TO TITLE 44 SO AS TO SET FORTH FINDINGS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGARDING THE RIGHT OF CONSCIENCE IN THE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY; TO DEFINE CERTAIN TERMS; TO AUTHORIZE MEDICAL PRACTITIONERS, HEALTH CARE INSTITUTIONS, AND HEALTH CARE PAYERS NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN HEALTH CARE SERVICES THAT VIOLATE THE PRACTITIONER'S OR ENTITY'S CONSCIENCE AND TO PROTECT THESE INDIVIDUALS AND ENTITIES FROM CIVIL, CRIMINAL, OR ADMINISTRATIVE LIABILITY AND FROM DISCRIMINATION FOR EXERCISING THEIR PERSONAL RIGHT OF CONSCIENCE, WITH EXCEPTIONS; TO CREATE A PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION FOR MEDICAL PRACTITIONERS, HEALTH CARE INSTITUTIONS, AND HEALTH CARE PAYERS FOR VIOLATION OF THE CHAPTER; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

2021-2022 Bill 3518: Medical Ethics and Diversity Act - South Carolina Legislature Online

Your side started this by harassing Christian organization that do not provide abortion

 

[Penelope]

Your side started this by harassing Christian organization that do not provide abortion

I don't care a bit about Christian org, I don't believe and it doesnt' say anything about abortion.

They can deny contraception's, HIV med, trans med, anything that they are against religeous morally. They can even deny medical insurance.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

South Carolina Legislature Online - Search

www.scstatehouse.gov

AND TO AMEND SECTION 44-41-55, RELATING TO THE RIGHT OF
CERTAIN MEDICAL PROVIDERS NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN ABORTION PROCEDURES, SO AS
ALSO TO APPLY TO MEDICAL STUDENTS. - ratified title


Op doing their usual. Trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. A doctor can refuse to not do an abortion for you. Go find someone else.

but it is not limited only to abortions

 

[eagle1462010]

I don't care a bit about Christian org, I don't believe and it doesnt' say anything about abortion.

They can deny contraception's, HIV med, trans med, anything that they are against religeous morally. They can even deny medical insurance.

You are flailing around like a fish out of water here..........You really need to jump back into the ocean on this one.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The bill is geared to prevent physicians from being forced to commit the sin of abortion and perform Sex Change operations. It is just being written broad enough that it will cover other, yet-to-be-anticipated infringements on people's religious convictions.

This is good news for libs, BTW too, as doctors wouldn't be forced to perform medical based executions (lethal injections) if they have a problem with that.

no doctor has ever been forced to do any of the things you mentioned.

 

[Penelope]

but it is not limited only to abortions

It doesn't say anything about abortion.

 

[Polishprince]

but it is not limited only to abortions

That's true enough. But that's a good point as it also covered sex changes and other procedures that people object to for religious reasons.

 

[hjmick]

Here's the thing...

If you are considering being a doctor, you know what the hell will be expected of you. If you have religious convictions that will cause a conflict with those expectations, study the fucking law...

 

[Penelope]

That's true enough. But that's a good point as it also covered sex changes and other procedures that people object to for religious reasons.

Religious reason, anybody can fake it.

 

[Penelope]

Next they will let Medicare do it and MA (private healthcare). It probably soon be that way with private healthcare.

Well what can you have done, nothing it will be against religious views, they will say pray will work it out.

Pray more!!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

That's true enough. But that's a good point as it also covered sex changes and other procedures that people object to for religious reasons.

For which no doctor ever has been forced to do.

 

[jknowgood]

(4) 'Health care service" means medical care provided to any patient at any time over the entire course of treatment. This includes, but is not limited to, initial examination; testing; diagnosis; referral; dispensing and/or administering any drug, medication, or device; psychological therapy or counseling; research; prognosis; therapy; any other care or necessary services performed or provided by any medical practitioner including, but not limited to, allied health professionals, paraprofessionals, or employees of health care institutions.

(5) 'Health care institution' means any public or private hospital, clinic, medical center, physician organization, professional association, ambulatory surgical center, private physician's office, pharmacy, nursing home, medical school, nursing school, medical training facility, or any other entity or location in which health care services are performed on behalf of any person. Health care institutions may include, but are not limited to, organizations, corporations, partnerships, associations, agencies, networks, sole proprietorships, joint ventures, or any other entity that provides health care services.

(6) 'Health care payer' means any employer, health plan, health maintenance organization, insurance company, management services organization, or any other entity that pays for, or arranges for the payment of, any health care service provided to any patient, whether that payment is made in whole or in part.

(7) 'Medical practitioner' means any person or individual who may be or is asked to participate in any way in any health care service. This includes, but is not limited to, doctors, nurse practitioners, physician's assistants, nurses, nurses' aides, allied health professionals, medical assistants, hospital employees, clinic employees, nursing home employees, pharmacists, pharmacy technicians and employees, medical school faculty and students, nursing school faculty and students, psychology and counseling faculty and students, medical researchers, laboratory technicians, counselors, social workers, or any other person who facilitates or participates in the provision of health care services to any person.

2021-2022 Bill 3518: Medical Ethics and Diversity Act - South Carolina Legislature Online

Abortions are on the way out. Pretty soon you loons that support it will be compared to Hitler.

 

[Penelope]

For which no doctor ever has been forced to do.

Pray more and they can't get sued, a lot of whackos. A lot of doctors do what the pateint asks of them,
say for instance if you don't believe in psychotropic meds, too bad. You in a network, unless you are on original Medicare, and that isn't going to last, if the republicans can have their say.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Abortions are on the way out. Pretty soon you loons that support it will be compared to Hitler.

 

[Polishprince]

no doctor has ever been forced to do any of the things you mentioned.

Not yet.

But this is something that is anticipated and the legislation is addressing future concerns.


Of course no hospital or doctor should be forced to commit a procedure which is against their religious beliefs. But libs previously forced religious organizations like the Little Sisters of the Poor and Hobby Lobby into paying for Abortion you know. So it isn't something that is really "out there" as far as a future possiblity.

 

[Mac-7]

I don't care a bit about Christian org, I don't believe and it doesnt' say anything about abortion.

They can deny contraception's, HIV med, trans med, anything that they are against religeous morally. They can even deny medical insurance.

Libs have been trying to control Christians through the ambulance chasing ALCU and activist liberal judges

Now at leadt in south carolina to game is over

 

[Penelope]

Abortions are on the way out. Pretty soon you loons that support it will be compared to Hitler.

We will never accept that fact.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Not yet.

But this is something that is anticipated and the legislation is addressing future concerns.

Are you really this fucking stupid? Not just any doctor could do a sex change procedure, it is a highly specialized and requires training and equipment 99.9% of doctors do not have.

Of course no hospital or doctor should be forced to commit a procedure which is against their religious beliefs.

Hospitals do not have religious beliefs, only people do. Should a hospital or doctor be able to turn away a pregnant woman because she is not married?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

he Little Sisters of the Poor and Hobby Lobby into paying for Abortion

Oh, and Hobby Lobby is not a religious organization, it is a retail company.